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Ways to avoid a bad wingman
I think one of the first things is that your wingman should be as equal as possible to you..

During my past from going out to a few bars here and there one of the worst type of wing man you can pick is a needy one. I think I should make it clear that you want someone who has just as much game as you do, but understand the objective is for them to play their role.

One of the best ways to tell a needy wingman is by the way he views women. If he is constantly pursuing the same girl who turned him down or if he is complaining how she sucks.

Do not get me wrong we all complain about a chick beng a BITCH every now and then but why complain when we can be on to the next one.

The last special thing i think to avoid in a wingman is him using negs against you. I am only mentioning this because I have had it happened, but a wingman who uses negs against you will blow your cover and give you a bad reputation at the bar...OH and i forgot, avoid friends who love to start bar fights....

This information is priceless...but i have forgotten it so often..
08-03-2012 01:01 PM
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RE: Ways to avoid a bad wingman
(08-03-2012 01:01 PM)heartlessthrob Wrote:  I think one of the first things is that your wingman should be as equal as possible to you..

During my past from going out to a few bars here and there one of the worst type of wing man you can pick is a needy one. I think I should make it clear that you want someone who has just as much game as you do, but understand the objective is for them to play their role.

One of the best ways to tell a needy wingman is by the way he views women. If he is constantly pursuing the same girl who turned him down or if he is complaining how she sucks.

Do not get me wrong we all complain about a chick beng a BITCH every now and then but why complain when we can be on to the next one.

The last special thing i think to avoid in a wingman is him using negs against you. I am only mentioning this because I have had it happened, but a wingman who uses negs against you will blow your cover and give you a bad reputation at the bar...OH and i forgot, avoid friends who love to start bar fights....

This information is priceless...but i have forgotten it so often..

my normal wing is a small normal looking guy and doesn't drink and i've found that to be more of a disadvantage than an advantage cos it definitely takes him longer to get in state and his sober view of thnigs can kill the vibe sometimes
but that said, when opportunities arise, he doesn't hesitate and is a carpe deim kinda guy for the most part
problem is often he tends to go to 'cattle mart' bars which are often sausage-fests and the kind of bars that attract chunky american/british tourists (not my type but sometimes his)
we have had success as an abbot and costello style double act at times, as we have good rapport and know each other a long time, but that said, the guy is not always in state, and that can blow our chances sometimes
last weekend i went out instead with a french dude i know, he's a tall guy and looks pretty good and that certainly helps in the first impression stakes, also we end up going to slightly alternative bars, the quality of women can vary but heifers are rare, and you can come across some cute alt-chicks in these places

so i would say height, some level of looks, and someone who's not totally sober (but also not stocious drunk) are all good qualities in a wing
stating the obvious here somewhat but how on ever
08-03-2012 01:23 PM
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RE: Ways to avoid a bad wingman
Actually i can tell you about some wingmans ive chilled with and how each of them completed my style in their own way.

Currently, i reside in poland and i speak polish fluently due to my background, but im actually canadian. So acting like a foreigner isn't as easy as it seems because those girls can suspect me of being a polish poser who left the country to be a waiter abroad and came back with a more than average english in comparison to the polish population.

So i just speak polish to them and keep the canadian thing as a suprise, it often allows me to play a double sided game, if the girl is pro Poland, i just tell them i feel more polish than canadian, if shes a whore who wishes to escape and live the american dream, i play the canadian card.

Im easy going, the bad boy type, i play around the borders of their sanity to show them that getting me should be their struggle and not the other way around.

Anyways.

Here are some wingmans that ive chilled with and why it worked well.


1) A scandinavian buddy of mine, couldn't speak polish but he was a master at playing with words and making chicks laugh with his "Simple/Life Related" sense of humor.

I would often introduce myself and he would try to speak polish by saying funny things such as "Zloty Tarasy - Which is the main shopping center in the city and he would twist it to sound like Slutty Tarasy" Or he would say "Nie jestem tunczykiem ale dunczykiem"

Which literaly translate as, i am not a salmon but a danish person.
He would often try to guess their names by saying the most common polish girls names "Kasia/Magda/Marta"

The girls would find it cute and he would entertain us, and i would try to get into their head in the meantime. I would build rapport and he would relax them.

2) Flower Man

A polish buddy of mine who spends his nights selling flowers has developped a natural way to approach girls, since hes forced on an everyday basis to approach customers on the street, so in a certain way he hits on 300 girls everyday.

His greatest ability is his direct non evasive straight forward approach, he hits on every single girl he sees, fat, chubby, hot, nerdy to get cigarettes, to ask for a number, just to say hello and to ask about the weather. He would never bang an ugly girl but he just does it for the heck of it.

Most of the time, I wouldn't even notice the first minute of his disappearance and already he would be talking to chicks. Then i would just approach them and play my cards without breaking any ice.

His conversation/dancing/singing skills still underconstruction and i consider myself much better at those things than him, so in a certain way we complete each other. I wish i could hit on girls like that, i do but i still feel like i need to get into a trance/mood to do those things.

I think that out of all the wingmen i had, those were the best ones, there are others but just to show you that, not anyone can do, i think its more about completing your style.

If 2 guys hit on everything that walks and there is no strategy involved in the end you just part in your own directions. If both of you try to isolate the girls too quickly they might feel squished, if you only make them laugh, you don't build any attraction and sexual energy.

There can be no jealousy, greed or frustrations involved, he should be your brother in arms and if necessary you should even lend him the keys to your flat so he can bang the girl after getting lucky even if you have work in 4 hours, just sit in the nearest cafe and wait for him to be done.

Thats why according to my experience, a wingman should balance your style making 2 visible yet intresting characters that girls can relate to and fluctuate their emotions.

Not anyguy will do.
08-03-2012 01:37 PM
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RE: Ways to avoid a bad wingman
The way I disqualify bad wingmen is by telling them a little bit about red pill. If they disagree and insist on beta ways they're not my wingmen.

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RE: Ways to avoid a bad wingman
I'm thinking about this. There's a trip to another city and in order to make it more fun I like to have a wingman problem is some guys who are good are more competition and guys who suck bring you down

One of my wing man's is a 6'6 serbian guy. Love him and we have a great time together but we always go for the hottest chicks so sometimes it's annoying. He's chill though if I say I really want a girl it can happen but simply just having a guy that tall etc. makes me looks bad. I'm 6'0. So what you think should I bring him?

I also have bisexual girlfriends that I've done swinger stuff with, so that might be better? Thing is though on this trip I'm kinda wifey hunting, so it's not just threesome and might spark jealousy in the girls. Maybe if I'm up front about wanting to find a more intimate thing with a girl of my own ethnicity? (Greek)
11-28-2018 03:15 PM
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RE: Ways to avoid a bad wingman
(11-28-2018 03:15 PM)jacknap Wrote:  I'm thinking about this. There's a trip to another city and in order to make it more fun I like to have a wingman problem is some guys who are good are more competition and guys who suck bring you down

One of my wing man's is a 6'6 serbian guy. Love him and we have a great time together but we always go for the hottest chicks so sometimes it's annoying. He's chill though if I say I really want a girl it can happen but simply just having a guy that tall etc. makes me looks bad. I'm 6'0. So what you think should I bring him?

I also have bisexual girlfriends that I've done swinger stuff with, so that might be better? Thing is though on this trip I'm kinda wifey hunting, so it's not just threesome and might spark jealousy in the girls. Maybe if I'm up front about wanting to find a more intimate thing with a girl of my own ethnicity? (Greek)

For me the only question is if you like traveling with this guy, if he's a cool dude, good friend and generally a nice person to hang out with. I don't know how you're thinking but I would never choose to travel somewhere with someone solely on how good of a wing he is.

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11-28-2018 05:21 PM
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(11-28-2018 05:21 PM)Trent W. Wrote:  
(11-28-2018 03:15 PM)jacknap Wrote:  I'm thinking about this. There's a trip to another city and in order to make it more fun I like to have a wingman problem is some guys who are good are more competition and guys who suck bring you down

One of my wing man's is a 6'6 serbian guy. Love him and we have a great time together but we always go for the hottest chicks so sometimes it's annoying. He's chill though if I say I really want a girl it can happen but simply just having a guy that tall etc. makes me looks bad. I'm 6'0. So what you think should I bring him?

I also have bisexual girlfriends that I've done swinger stuff with, so that might be better? Thing is though on this trip I'm kinda wifey hunting, so it's not just threesome and might spark jealousy in the girls. Maybe if I'm up front about wanting to find a more intimate thing with a girl of my own ethnicity? (Greek)

For me the only question is if you like traveling with this guy, if he's a cool dude, good friend and generally a nice person to hang out with. I don't know how you're thinking but I would never choose to travel somewhere with someone solely on how good of a wing he is.

yeah we get along great. we've only chilled like 5 times total but it's good we click. sometimes though we want the same girl so it's annoying but it kinda pushes us to get over approach anxiety cause we know the other guy is a killer haha. he helps me too though yesterday when I had approach anxiety he literally pushed me into a set and it forced me to open haha too funny.
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RE: Ways to avoid a bad wingman
Best to have strengths and weaknesses covered in team.

My fave wing is tall, handsome but has terrible game.

I got a head like a dropped pie, but can game.

Often girls will approach him, and if they are in pairs I do well gaming her friend, which never would have given me a chance.

It shits me how easy life is for him, sometimes he can just sit at the bar and have multiple girls approach him, and he just picks one for the night, easy mode.
11-29-2018 09:44 PM
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(11-29-2018 09:44 PM)RatInTheWoods Wrote:  Best to have strengths and weaknesses covered in team.

My fave wing is tall, handsome but has terrible game.

I got a head like a dropped pie, but can game.

Often girls will approach him, and if they are in pairs I do well gaming her friend, which never would have given me a chance.

It shits me how easy life is for him, sometimes he can just sit at the bar and have multiple girls approach him, and he just picks one for the night, easy mode.

how tall is he? my friend is 6'6 and has sick game haha. I think we strangely have the same ratios though. I'm 6'0 though which is taller than 90% of girls anyways. I made him copy my method and we had the exact same ratio. Wonder the results if we got a short guy to do it, if it would be the same.
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