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Wanted to bump this great thread up and see if I can get help from some of y'all.

I'm debating between getting a convertible and a bike, seeing as though I live in Florida and can use either year round. Obviously you guys know which way I'm leaning, given that I'm posting here.

I'd be interested in using it as a daily driver, but my only reservation is the drivers here in Tampa are notoriously bad. One of my cousins also has a dent in his head from a bad motorcycle accident. Obviously part of being a man is taking a risk, but I'm curious how you guys approach the safety issue.

That said, I've given myself a 15k budget to start out, going to get the permit and then endorsement and all that good stuff, how would you guys recommend starting out?

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I'm probably getting a motorcycle license this summer. What makes me hesitate is everywhere I've read they say a bad wreck is inevitable if you ride long enough. The only question is how bad you're going to get fucked up, and if you have the gumption to keep riding. Even the msf course teachers say "after you wreck the first time, you'll figure out if this is really for you". It's like goddamn, is getting paralyzed really worth it. You're giving strangers the ability to kill you on the road.
02-02-2019 04:35 PM
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I've ridden some 15000 mi and never wrecked. Even on big machines. When I see some guys riding I understand why society has so many accidents. My take:

1. Ride defensively
2. Release the throttle when you reach an intersection and try to get eye contact with the crossing cars/trucks
3. Never speed unless you are on a race track
4. Never ride at dusk, dawn and night in an area with lots of wildlife.
5. Dont drive fast in curves ... you never know if there is gravel on the road.

This makes motorcycling pretty much boring. Only thing is the massive acceleration which is fun at intersections.
02-02-2019 05:00 PM
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Most important factor for riding a motorcycle I believe is where you live. I for instance live in Toronto, I rode for 2 years. In that time 2 riding friends were killed and 2 others were seriously injured to the point that they are permanently disabled. All experienced riders. Let alone the countless near death experiences I have had. Not too mention the bullshit weather.

It definetly gets the girls going, and its endlessly fun and exciting for the most part, but its something you have to love enough to give your life for. I liked it, but I packed it in and dont really miss it. I got an SVT Cobra Mustang, chicks dig it more for sure.
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Definitely ride very defensively, a bike is exciting enough without being an idiot and taking extra risks.

I see some terrible riding, and riders getting killed is still pretty rare, so I figure if you ride safely your odds are very low.

Still, is someone pulls out, theres not much you can do, is there?
02-03-2019 08:35 PM
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(02-02-2019 11:07 AM)Investment Bro Wrote:  Wanted to bump this great thread up and see if I can get help from some of y'all.

I'm debating between getting a convertible and a bike, seeing as though I live in Florida and can use either year round. Obviously you guys know which way I'm leaning, given that I'm posting here.

I'd be interested in using it as a daily driver, but my only reservation is the drivers here in Tampa are notoriously bad. One of my cousins also has a dent in his head from a bad motorcycle accident. Obviously part of being a man is taking a risk, but I'm curious how you guys approach the safety issue.

That said, I've given myself a 15k budget to start out, going to get the permit and then endorsement and all that good stuff, how would you guys recommend starting out?

15k is way more than you need and a lot to put into something you may decide is not for you. For a starter bike you don't need to spend anything over 5-6k and you can find plenty of bikes for 2-3k, all depends on what you want and your style of riding. You need to decide what style of bike suits you and then buy something with an appropriate amount of power depending on your weight.

All motorcyclists rationalize this thing in one way or another. There's just no way around the safety issue. My rationalization is that it's NOT a daily driver nor will it ever be. I take my bike out on weekends and try to get it out in the desert where there's not many other people.

Of course, the past two days I've tried that, the weather has not cooperated. No point in trying to enjoy myself out there with 50mph gusts. And today when I started to ride out I promptly got a speeding ticket, my 2nd in the last 6 months. I've been much better about speeding on the freeway and in town but this guy caught me as I was passing some traffic at 93mph.

As with the first ticket, my first thought was "At least he didn't catch me going 130" Angel

eta: I think the whole "it's a matter of when, not if" is bullshit. Plenty of riders out there that have never bailed.

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02-04-2019 02:26 PM
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(02-02-2019 11:07 AM)Investment Bro Wrote:  Wanted to bump this great thread up and see if I can get help from some of y'all.

I'm debating between getting a convertible and a bike, seeing as though I live in Florida and can use either year round. Obviously you guys know which way I'm leaning, given that I'm posting here.

I'd be interested in using it as a daily driver, but my only reservation is the drivers here in Tampa are notoriously bad. One of my cousins also has a dent in his head from a bad motorcycle accident. Obviously part of being a man is taking a risk, but I'm curious how you guys approach the safety issue.

That said, I've given myself a 15k budget to start out, going to get the permit and then endorsement and all that good stuff, how would you guys recommend starting out?

I think there is a difference between a daily driver and weekend or day off fun.

I don’t know what the traffic is like with you and obviously the cars and trucks in the US are much bigger than here.

I think your general safety comes down to thinking for all the other people. I try to never put myself in a position where I’m compromised and my life comes down to the decisions of someone I don’t know. What someone said above about eye contact is very important.

I feel quite safe on a bike, I can see more and the acceleration gets you out of trouble often.

I can’t give you any advice on what to do but I personally love that sense of freedom. I wouldn’t get that even in a convertible car.
02-04-2019 03:39 PM
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I would be very careful about getting into riding a bike on the street casually in 2019 in the USA where everyone is on their phone.

It is a big investment in time and money. I would take MSF if you have not yet, and spend money on quality gear. Start on a small bike and ideally you would get some track time. There is no where else you can learn how to control a motorcycle effectively ( and truly know what it is capable of ) then on the track.

As it is I am focusing more on trackdays now and less on the street, especially commuter riding in California as no one here gives a fuck about the rules of the road or anyone around them. Especially viscous on LA freeways.

All that said, it is probably the best time ever to be a motorcyclist.. Truly the golden age of bikes right now where you can buy bikes off the showroom floor that would have been WSBK spec less than 10 years ago. Also there is an abundance of incredible bikes for sale under $5k that can do it all (commute, sport touring, trackday etc) as a lot of riders age out and hang it up.
02-04-2019 07:56 PM
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Investment bro: get a starter bike like this one:

https://www.cycletrader.com/listing/1982...5003672900

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$1,500 to $3,000.

Trail/mixed use Japanese big four 250-350cc in good shape with low mileage. Very reliable and easy to maintain, super light, and great to learn riding on, fun to ride. You sit in a high upright position which is great for seeing traffic and being seen. You can also get easily on the sidewalk or navigate bumpy roads.

Keep it for 6 months then move on to something bigger for cruising the highways and longer distances, and resell it for the same price, or keep it as a second bike, they're awesome as a short to mid commuter bike or for riding on dirt trails without the truck-and-trailer motocross fuss.

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