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US birth rate falls to record low
US birth rate falls to record low

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Preliminary data from 2011 shows the lowest birth rate in 90 years

The US birth rate hit a record low last year, led by the decline in child-bearing among foreign-born women, according to a Pew study.

The overall US birth rate decreased by 8% between 2007-10, and by 6% among US-born women, found the data.

The rate fell sharpest for those hardest hit by the recession: 14% among foreign-born women and 23% among Mexican immigrant women in particular.

The 2011 rate was the lowest since 1920, when such records began.

Previous research by Pew concluded that states with the largest economic downturn from 2007-08, were most likely to have experienced fertility declines.

Foreign and US-born Hispanic women have experienced the largest fall in household wealth since 2007.

But increased access to contraception for Latino women may also be playing a part in the falling birth rate, according to the National Latina Institute for Reproductive Health.

Foreign-born mothers continue to give birth to a disproportionate share of the nation's newborns.

Last year there were 3.95 million total US births, according to the preliminary data from Pew Research Center.

The overall US birth rate was 63.2 per 1,000 women of child-bearing age.

It peaked in 1957 during the Baby Boom years, reaching 122.7 per 1,000 women.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-20550661

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11-30-2012 10:26 AM
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What is the minimum replacement birthrate per 1,000 women?

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(11-30-2012 10:30 AM)MSW2007 Wrote:  What is the minimum replacement birthrate per 1,000 women?

Not 100% relevant, but depends on the mortality rate: (from Wikipedia) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Total_fertility_rate

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If there were no mortality in the female population until the end of the childbearing years (generally taken as 44 or 49, though some exceptions exist) then the replacement level of TFR would be very close to 2.0 (actually slightly higher because of the excess of boy over girl births in human populations). However, the replacement level is also affected by mortality, asexuality, genetic disorders inhibiting procreation, and by women without the desire to have children. The replacement fertility rate is roughly 2.1 births per woman for most industrialized countries (2.075 in the UK for example), but ranges from 2.5 to 3.3 in developing countries because of higher mortality rates. Taken globally, the total fertility rate at replacement is 2.33 children per woman. At this rate, global population growth would trend towards zero.

In 1957, 122.7 per 1,000 women ~ 3.8 children/woman
In 2011, 63.2 per 1,000 women ~ 1.894 children/woman
Minimum replacement rate ~2.1, which would be ~70 per 1,000 women is my guess.
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This is what happens when you make birth control widely available. There's a reason the Pope and Catholics are against it.
Girls should be educated about morality and the purpose of the family structure instead of handing out birth control pills
and condoms and saying "Here go nuts!!".

In 20 years they'll be 3 hot girls left in the US and we'll all be fighting over them Dodgy

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the natural result and overall point of feminism

- population control -

1. Make women pursue 'education', sports, and 'career' in their biological prime thus delaying marriage and childbearing.

2. Inculcate in them characteristics that make the unattractive to men - both physically and personality wise.

3. Contort the rule of law to criminalize men and dad, and make marriage and childbearing an expensive and actually dangerous proposition - thereby discouraging the men.

Result: Less marriage, less pair bonding, less children = lower population

Eugenics at its finest.
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(11-30-2012 01:07 PM)Norset Wrote:  brb converting to Islam

ISLAMiC CULTURE = anti feminism at its most extreme
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(11-30-2012 03:52 PM)kdolo Wrote:  the natural result and overall point of feminism

- population control -

1. Make women pursue 'education', sports, and 'career' in their biological prime thus delaying marriage and childbearing.

2. Inculcate in them characteristics that make the unattractive to men - both physically and personality wise.

3. Contort the rule of law to criminalize men and dad, and make marriage and childbearing an expensive and actually dangerous proposition - thereby discouraging the men.

Result: Less marriage, less pair bonding, less children = lower population

Eugenics at its finest.

Look at the Black community for a even more drastic view of this. In Black America they are not reproducing at a surplus right now. African Americans are literally vanishing with little dialogue on the subject at all.
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(11-30-2012 10:20 PM)kosko Wrote:  
(11-30-2012 03:52 PM)kdolo Wrote:  
Look at the Black community for a even more drastic view of this. In Black America they are not reproducing at a surplus right now. African Americans are literally vanishing with little dialogue on the subject at all.

Do you have numbers newer than 2008? I can't find it. For 2008 it was:

2.09 – All races
1.84 – Non-Hispanic white
2.11 – Non-Hispanic black
1.84 – American Indian, Native Alaskan
2.06 – Asian & Pacific Islander
2.99 – Hispanic

African americans are doing (relatively) fine on those numbers..
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Yeah, what are you talking about kosko? I've never seen *any* stats that black Americans are not reproducing. . . . huh??
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(11-30-2012 11:37 PM)Norset Wrote:  
(11-30-2012 10:20 PM)kosko Wrote:  
(11-30-2012 03:52 PM)kdolo Wrote:  
Look at the Black community for a even more drastic view of this. In Black America they are not reproducing at a surplus right now. African Americans are literally vanishing with little dialogue on the subject at all.

Do you have numbers newer than 2008? I can't find it. For 2008 it was:

2.09 – All races
1.84 – Non-Hispanic white
2.11 – Non-Hispanic black
1.84 – American Indian, Native Alaskan
2.06 – Asian & Pacific Islander
2.99 – Hispanic

African americans are doing (relatively) fine on those numbers..

(12-01-2012 12:19 AM)RobP Wrote:  Yeah, what are you talking about kosko? I've never seen *any* stats that black Americans are not reproducing. . . . huh??

You'd have to take in mortality rate as well. But I do agree based on those numbers that it is unlikely that black mortality rate is .25 higher than white mortality rate.
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(12-01-2012 12:27 AM)Pacesetter20 Wrote:  
(11-30-2012 11:37 PM)Norset Wrote:  
(11-30-2012 10:20 PM)kosko Wrote:  
(11-30-2012 03:52 PM)kdolo Wrote:  
Look at the Black community for a even more drastic view of this. In Black America they are not reproducing at a surplus right now. African Americans are literally vanishing with little dialogue on the subject at all.

Do you have numbers newer than 2008? I can't find it. For 2008 it was:

2.09 – All races
1.84 – Non-Hispanic white
2.11 – Non-Hispanic black
1.84 – American Indian, Native Alaskan
2.06 – Asian & Pacific Islander
2.99 – Hispanic

African americans are doing (relatively) fine on those numbers..

(12-01-2012 12:19 AM)RobP Wrote:  Yeah, what are you talking about kosko? I've never seen *any* stats that black Americans are not reproducing. . . . huh??

You'd have to take in mortality rate as well. But I do agree based on those numbers that it is unlikely that black mortality rate is .25 higher than white mortality rate.


I believe that is the catch, that when you factor in death rates the Black population is not re-producing itself. And the rates fall below and more in-line to the Aboriginal American numbers.

I would say digging around in here we might give some exact numbers?

http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/hus/hus10.pdf
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so who will pay for my future entitlements?

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Data indicates Fat Chicks driving collapsing birth rate
I was listening to a finance podcast in the past 2 weeks, where the female "expert" said that one of the big drivers for the falling USA birth rate was that teenage pregnancy peaked in 1991 and has fallen ever since.

The pill was introduced in the USA in 1960.
Roe V Wade was in 1973.

What happened around 1991?

Teen girls started getting fat.

Want falling birth rates? Fat Chicks > Abortion > The Pill

I was 15 in 1991 and I remember "The Fattening" well (actually started around 88 in DC). I am convinced that I was at ground zero of the 9/11 of the War on Fat Chicks.

Sorry, I tried finding the podcast again but I can't remember which one it was.
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(06-10-2019 09:35 PM)beta_plus Wrote:  I was listening to a finance podcast in the past 2 weeks, where the female "expert" said that one of the big drivers for the falling USA birth rate was that teenage pregnancy peaked in 1991 and has fallen ever since.

The pill was introduced in the USA in 1960.
Roe V Wade was in 1973.

What happened around 1991?

Teen girls started getting fat.

Want falling birth rates? Fat Chicks > Abortion > The Pill

I was 15 in 1991 and I remember "The Fattening" well (actually started around 88 in DC). I am convinced that I was at ground zero of the 9/11 of the War on Fat Chicks.

Sorry, I tried finding the podcast again but I can't remember which one it was.

Can you explain more about the fattening in the nineties?
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(06-10-2019 09:35 PM)beta_plus Wrote:  I was listening to a finance podcast in the past 2 weeks, where the female "expert" said that one of the big drivers for the falling USA birth rate was that teenage pregnancy peaked in 1991 and has fallen ever since.

The pill was introduced in the USA in 1960.
Roe V Wade was in 1973.

What happened around 1991?

Teen girls started getting fat.

Want falling birth rates? Fat Chicks > Abortion > The Pill

I was 15 in 1991 and I remember "The Fattening" well (actually started around 88 in DC). I am convinced that I was at ground zero of the 9/11 of the War on Fat Chicks.

Sorry, I tried finding the podcast again but I can't remember which one it was.

Ha! I remember this too.

Sometimes in the mid-1990s, Time and Newsweek did articles on the new styles of clothing that grunge and rap were ushering in. Their verdict was that loose-fitting flannel shirts and wide-cut jeans weren't just fashion statements inspired by musical styles. They came into prominence because teens wanted to hide their huge guts and big butts.

But are we sure obesity is the reason for the drop in teen pregnancy? Might just be one factor.

1990s-era girls being raised by Yuppies to become corporate-worker-slave-drones might be another big factor. "Motherhood" was a word more verboten than "heroin" to a lot of these upwardly-mobile families.
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(06-10-2019 09:54 PM)McCarthy Wrote:  
(06-10-2019 09:35 PM)beta_plus Wrote:  I was listening to a finance podcast in the past 2 weeks, where the female "expert" said that one of the big drivers for the falling USA birth rate was that teenage pregnancy peaked in 1991 and has fallen ever since.

The pill was introduced in the USA in 1960.
Roe V Wade was in 1973.

What happened around 1991?

Teen girls started getting fat.

Want falling birth rates? Fat Chicks > Abortion > The Pill

I was 15 in 1991 and I remember "The Fattening" well (actually started around 88 in DC). I am convinced that I was at ground zero of the 9/11 of the War on Fat Chicks.

Sorry, I tried finding the podcast again but I can't remember which one it was.

Can you explain more about the fattening in the nineties?

Basically, teenage and 20 something female obesity was not a problem up to the late 1980s in the USA. After that, you started to see lots of girls getting fat at age 15. And I don't mean "full bodied". I mean fat.

My personal theory is that because moms started entering the work force, they stopped cooking low carb meals for their children. I guess 1988 to 1991 was the tipping point when too many entered the work force. Sorry, I wish that I had a better explanation.
Maybe this thread about a 1989 mall would help?
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(06-10-2019 09:56 PM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:  
(06-10-2019 09:35 PM)beta_plus Wrote:  I was listening to a finance podcast in the past 2 weeks, where the female "expert" said that one of the big drivers for the falling USA birth rate was that teenage pregnancy peaked in 1991 and has fallen ever since.

The pill was introduced in the USA in 1960.
Roe V Wade was in 1973.

What happened around 1991?

Teen girls started getting fat.

Want falling birth rates? Fat Chicks > Abortion > The Pill

I was 15 in 1991 and I remember "The Fattening" well (actually started around 88 in DC). I am convinced that I was at ground zero of the 9/11 of the War on Fat Chicks.

Sorry, I tried finding the podcast again but I can't remember which one it was.

Ha! I remember this too.

Sometimes in the mid-1990s, Time and Newsweek did articles on the new styles of clothing that grunge and rap were ushering in. Their verdict was that loose-fitting flannel shirts and wide-cut jeans weren't just fashion statements inspired by musical styles. They came into prominence because teens wanted to hide their huge guts and big butts.

But are we sure obesity is the reason for the drop in teen pregnancy? Might just be one factor.

1990s-era girls being raised by Yuppies to become corporate-worker-slave-drones might be another big factor. "Motherhood" was a word more verboten than "heroin" to a lot of these upwardly-mobile families.

My data analyst "spidey sense" started tingling when I heard that quote. I am still trying to find a time series chart of female teenage obesity for the USA.
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