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RE: Tinder App
Interesting...I have noticed better than usual results when active between 2-8pm or so in my current location. I'm sure that varies, but received similar results this past weekend while I was in a nearby, popular city with the same target demographic I prefer. I also had some matches by using super likes on who I calculated as having a genuine combination of decent, natural looking pictures and an original, non-arrogant introduction; I recall using most of these on the pre-selected list feature, which I wasn't sure as being a coincidence, or even a strategy that could make any difference.

The most trouble i've been having is figuring out the way conversations are best paced; i.e., when to make contact, making contact first or waiting, whether to keep the conversation on the platform so long as momentum is positively going forward, etc. I use to always default to the "move it to a messenger or Facebook" strategy up until the past 18 months or so when I noticed this to sometimes kill my momentum. It's a damn shame, too, because the whole point of me wanting to do that is so I can video chat with them to prove I am who I'm advertising myself to be, and also to clue in on any photo manipulation that might have eluded me + her general disposition to gauge her value for my time investment. Not sure why they nearly always act like somebody with something to hide, as I'm far from being overly aggressive and don't use sexualised language or anything like that so soon as to make her think that she'd expect me to be exposing myself or some other freaky shit.
11-09-2018 01:53 AM
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I paid for a boost and after 30 minutes the counter increased from +3 to +10 likes, but after that even swiping a lot of girls I got no matches and the app still shows +10 likes. Is there anybody else having this issue or this means that tinder wants me to pay kinda of twice, for the boost and then for tinder gold to see who liked me during the boost?
11-09-2018 07:49 PM
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(11-09-2018 07:49 PM)Desertguy Wrote:  I paid for a boost and after 30 minutes the counter increased from +3 to +10 likes, but after that even swiping a lot of girls I got no matches and the app still shows +10 likes. Is there anybody else having this issue or this means that tinder wants me to pay kinda of twice, for the boost and then for tinder gold to see who liked me during the boost?

It really depends where you live and your picture/bio quality. If you put your location to Colombia I am sure if you are decent looking you'll get TONS of matchs.

As for in the states, I noticed if you swipe yes on all you get A LOT of fattys and ugly chicks. If you actually swipe yes/no based on their looks, the algorithm will probably match you up with higher quality women or at least that is what it has been doing for me lately. If you are outside of the city, put you're location to the center of the city and see if your results improve.

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11-10-2018 03:11 PM
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(11-10-2018 03:11 PM)WomenLuvDeez Wrote:  
(11-09-2018 07:49 PM)Desertguy Wrote:  I paid for a boost and after 30 minutes the counter increased from +3 to +10 likes, but after that even swiping a lot of girls I got no matches and the app still shows +10 likes. Is there anybody else having this issue or this means that tinder wants me to pay kinda of twice, for the boost and then for tinder gold to see who liked me during the boost?

It really depends where you live and your picture/bio quality. If you put your location to Colombia I am sure if you are decent looking you'll get TONS of matchs.

As for in the states, I noticed if you swipe yes on all you get A LOT of fattys and ugly chicks. If you actually swipe yes/no based on their looks, the algorithm will probably match you up with higher quality women or at least that is what it has been doing for me lately. If you are outside of the city, put you're location to the center of the city and see if your results improve.

I see your point and agree with you, but particularly, for that case, tinder shows me I could have more than 10 matches if I swiped right every girl.I always swipe left the fat/ugly ones, so I never get that number of matches. Normally after the boost I would get at least 1 or 2. However, after spending a lot of time swiping, the counter located in the left side of the list of new matches should be reduced to +3 or zero instead of +10, but it seems like the app is not showing the girls who swiped me right. They’re probably doing this to induce me to pay for the gold version.
11-10-2018 08:11 PM
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To provide info on this... I'm using Gold right now and any girl that is in my 'Likes you' list pretty much immediately shows up in my swipe list.

It's actually fairly annoying because I'd prefer to be able to keep some of them on ice before matching but this makes it impossible.

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It really depends where you live and your picture/bio quality. If you put your location to Colombia I am sure if you are decent looking you'll get TONS of matchs.
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Bringing my Toronto phone down to Colombia, and/or changing location I find that I get waay more matches then Toronto, and a lot younger girls (Im late 30s).

I brought an old phone down to colombia and got a sim card here so no have a local plan/carrier. I installed tinder just using my phone number and some photos. I am trying to follow some of the advice here, but its actually confusing.

Appreciate any help for a guy who came up meeting girls at bars and partys. I don't have gold, some bullet points:
- I am swiping less and more discriminately
- I make a point of swiping left on hot girls who I am not interested in eg. Tatoos, overly slutty types. My thought is that if I swipe left on a high value that will help me
- I am receiving super likes on the regular now
- I find I am swiping on girls who have already matched with me, which would suggest my rating here is high
- I knocked a couple years off my age

Any tips are appreciated, I am about 3-4 days in. I am currently trying to pluck the hot girls onto my whatsapp
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11-11-2018 10:52 AM
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(11-11-2018 05:07 AM)Sender Wrote:  To provide info on this... I'm using Gold right now and any girl that is in my 'Likes you' list pretty much immediately shows up in my swipe list.

It's actually fairly annoying because I'd prefer to be able to keep some of them on ice before matching but this makes it impossible.

Yes.

This is why Gold is worthless.

I've been telling guys ever since Gold came out not to get it, but somehow guys are getting duped by this.

Don't get Gold, get Plus.

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11-11-2018 11:31 AM
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Gold is somewhat useful if you want to match more Tinder Picks women. You get 10 per day with Gold
11-11-2018 12:41 PM
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TL;DR I created a program to automatically swipe on tinder using machine learning

Here it goes.

As a programmer, I thought of making a program to do at least the swiping for me and save me that time.

Firstly, I searched if such a thing exists. Besides some shitty auto likers that trash your elo, there existed some python scripts in github, but there were 2 problems with those:

Only people who know python scripting can realistically use them.

You won't find a complete neural network that knows to tells between swipe right and swipe left material. You'll only find codes for a neural network that you should train yourself from scratch. There might be two reasons for it:

They think every person's taste is different, or

They think it's illegal / immoral to publish something that is based on data from real users that they acquired.

The first one is false and I didn't care about the second one.

So I decided to create a program with a pre-trained neural network, and add an interface that's easy for everyone to use and is designed to "just work".

This is a first version. Please provide your feedback and thoughts. If it succeeds, maybe I'll make a new version and charge a few bucks for it.

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11-11-2018 12:54 PM
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(11-11-2018 12:41 PM)NextStop100 Wrote:  Gold is somewhat useful if you want to match more Tinder Picks women. You get 10 per day with Gold

Tinder Picks is just as worthless as Gold.

There is no evidence that swiping right on a Tinder Pick makes you more likely to match with them than if they were to come up in your random queue.

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11-11-2018 02:17 PM
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RE: Tinder App
why doesn't someone invent a pro men dating app to replace tinder?

how it works:
girls who are in the 3-6 looks department can only swipe guys who are 3-7 looks (for this each profile will have a ranking and preference setting)
girls can only search 30 guys per day maximum and 300 per month total.
girls can only swipe like on 5 guys per day who are last active in the last 24 hours
guys cannot swipe at all(this is to make women make the effort instead)
if the girl swipes like then both can talk
maximum 5 likes per guy per day
if a guy recieves 5 likes already in that day he is no longer in the swiping zone (this is to make more guys share the likes and prevent the top 1-2% getting all likes)
can only date within 30 kilometer range
the less likes per day the more higher the guy will be in the swiping queue

this is also to prevent women from being greedy
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(11-11-2018 02:17 PM)corsega Wrote:  
(11-11-2018 12:41 PM)NextStop100 Wrote:  Gold is somewhat useful if you want to match more Tinder Picks women. You get 10 per day with Gold

Tinder Picks is just as worthless as Gold.

There is no evidence that swiping right on a Tinder Pick makes you more likely to match with them than if they were to come up in your random queue.

I agree but it also gives you 10 high quality girls you can directly DM on IG every day.
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Tinder Picks is actually worse for us cause the hottest girls are probably being shown to much more male users than before, when they just came up in the queue.

I have two different profiles in the same area and matched with a pretty girl last time I reset the profile. The conversation was going on well and then I noticed tinder picks listed her in my other profile. I thought: "damn, now she is probably being shown for lots of guys and getting tons of super likes". No wonder soon she unmatched me for no reason at all.
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(11-11-2018 05:04 PM)zamfir112 Wrote:  why doesn't someone invent a pro men dating app to replace tinder?

The success of these apps is wholly determined based on female participation. Sites that enforce rules women don't like probably won't reach critical mass. Women who use sites that limit their behavior are usually also on those that don't, defeating the purpose. They are only hedging their bets, not really buying into the idea that less choice is actually a benefit.

That being said, I just found out about an app called Once. I doubt it will accomplish much but give it a shot.

https://getonce.com/en
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BTW, I found out about Once by stumbling on this article from Cosmo of all places. So it's nice that there is an active conversation on the female side about whether the relentless swiping process is the best.
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(11-11-2018 05:56 PM)NextStop100 Wrote:  
(11-11-2018 02:17 PM)corsega Wrote:  y
(11-11-2018 12:41 PM)NextStop100 Wrote:  Gold is somewhat useful if you want to match more Tinder Picks women. You get 10 per day with Gold

Tinder Picks is just as worthless as Gold.

There is no evidence that swiping right on a Tinder Pick makes you more likely to match with them than if they were to come up in your random queue.

I agree but it also gives you 10 high quality girls you can directly DM on IG every day.

You can still view the profiles of your picks without Gold (or even Plus).

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RE: Tinder App
I just got laid the last 2 days in a row with young slim girls on tinder. Funny how things like that happen.

I think I've spoken about this in another thread, how it seems that getting results seems to lead to more results immediately after, for me anyway.

I've been using tinder for a while now and have seen some success, enough that I'm giving up on night game entirely. I've figured out some tinder cheats and was thinking about dropping a data sheet on it, but I don't want the app being crashed by copy cats who who ruin it for guys like us.

If anyone's interested drop me a PM and we'll talk about it. Will try to stick to repped members so this shit doesn't go viral.
11-12-2018 07:20 AM
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(11-09-2018 01:53 AM)RespectivePerspective Wrote:  Interesting...I have noticed better than usual results when active between 2-8pm or so in my current location. I'm sure that varies, but received similar results this past weekend while I was in a nearby, popular city with the same target demographic I prefer. I also had some matches by using super likes on who I calculated as having a genuine combination of decent, natural looking pictures and an original, non-arrogant introduction; I recall using most of these on the pre-selected list feature, which I wasn't sure as being a coincidence, or even a strategy that could make any difference.

The most trouble i've been having is figuring out the way conversations are best paced; i.e., when to make contact, making contact first or waiting, whether to keep the conversation on the platform so long as momentum is positively going forward, etc. I use to always default to the "move it to a messenger or Facebook" strategy up until the past 18 months or so when I noticed this to sometimes kill my momentum. It's a damn shame, too, because the whole point of me wanting to do that is so I can video chat with them to prove I am who I'm advertising myself to be, and also to clue in on any photo manipulation that might have eluded me + her general disposition to gauge her value for my time investment. Not sure why they nearly always act like somebody with something to hide, as I'm far from being overly aggressive and don't use sexualised language or anything like that so soon as to make her think that she'd expect me to be exposing myself or some other freaky shit.

Usually bro scientists find Tinder is the most active on an weekend night around 9 PM (but it also makes you think ~ if a chick isn't with a guy at that time is she one of those weird introverted girls who never goes out? That's something I kept thinking about).
11-14-2018 12:18 PM
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Something is definitely wrong with tinder, even worse than I thought.

2 years ago I got well over 12 lays using 2 pretty average photos. In a city like Krakow or Warsaw I would get around 50 new matches whenever I reset my profile. Last year I noticed a major decline. This year I use dslr photos acquired from 100 of photos taken by a guy who is a pro. I get 5 matches which I can see with tinder gold then it doesn't budge a day later. Even boosts have no effect. I thought maybe it is just Poland so I made a new profile and set it to St. Petersburg (I hear Russian cities are tinder paradises in terms of matches). 13 matches appear on the gold list, nothing more 2 days later.

I don't know what the fk is going on but I am almost certain it is to do with algorithms making it harder and harder for any man who isn't a drake or a chad to get any results even when he pays. I'm going to Mexico in january where I got 300 plus matches last year. I may as well become a programmer and make my own tinder if I notice the same shit there. Only what girl would actually use an app than gives her less of an advantage than tinder which is the defacto dating app and probably will be for the foreseeable future.

I realise I sound like a whinger and that the violins are playing when I say it deeply saddens me how badly online dating has declined. It truly was the game-changer which allowed me to bang a sizeable number of girls after years of inceldom. Daygame and nightclubs were always a super low ROI so having tinder there to meet girls when all else failed was really awesome and only now do I truly appreciate it. The game is always changing and adaption is important and we all got to accept that but I don't imagine there will be another 'tinder' again.
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(11-15-2018 08:50 AM)WannaBang Wrote:  Something is definitely wrong with tinder, even worse than I thought.

2 years ago I got well over 12 lays using 2 pretty average photos. In a city like Krakow or Warsaw I would get around 50 new matches whenever I reset my profile.

I also routinely use Tinder in Krakow and Warsaw. I'm not getting the quality of matches I once was, and this is after posting much better pics. On my last trip to Warsaw I was catfished about 4 times (fatties turning up to dates; try finding a fat chick in Warsaw). I'm getting few matches and when a girl at least in my league matches with me I read her bio and discover she's a single mother.

I had chicks in Krakow and Warsaw forwarding me their number without me even having to ask. Now I have a pathetic response rate.

Why does Tinder have such a shitty algorithm anyway? Why not just let everyone see everyone and let the chips fall where they may?
11-15-2018 09:38 AM
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I was last on it in early 2015 before getting into an LTR. My results from the last 2 months using the SAME pictures and profile are awful. Where I was getting 10-15 matches before it dries up and had to reset, now I get 1-3 and they fizzle out and result in nothing.

I thought maybe they just dicked with the algorithm so that you could only get action by paying, so I tried plus and gold. Same results, so the dating market has actually gotten worse and gone 95/5.

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(11-15-2018 08:50 AM)WannaBang Wrote:  I don't know what the fk is going on but I am almost certain it is to do with algorithms making it harder and harder for any man who isn't a drake or a chad to get any results even when he pays.

It's not the algorithms, it's the competition. The algorithms haven't changed.

(11-15-2018 08:50 AM)WannaBang Wrote:  I realise I sound like a whinger and that the violins are playing when I say it deeply saddens me how badly online dating has declined. It truly was the game-changer which allowed me to bang a sizeable number of girls after years of inceldom.

Well, you do sound like a whinger, you're right about that part. Focus on improving yourself.

Feel free to PM me if you want advice on your profile. I'll say that every guy who has PMed me who has whined and complained in this thread has had major, glaring issues with their SMV, photos, profile, or all of the above.

(11-15-2018 10:46 AM)DJ-Matt Wrote:  I was last on it in early 2015 before getting into an LTR. My results from the last 2 months using the SAME pictures and profile are awful. Where I was getting 10-15 matches before it dries up and had to reset, now I get 1-3 and they fizzle out and result in nothing.

I thought maybe they just dicked with the algorithm so that you could only get action by paying, so I tried plus and gold. Same results, so the dating market has actually gotten worse and gone 95/5.

Yes. Just like any market, it will continue to get more efficient.

You need to focus on improving yourself as a man. There are no shortcuts.

Time for a reality check. You should not be browsing these forums until you have dropped 20 pounds and gained muscle. Then, buy new clothes, get professional photos and you'll notice that your matches will go way up.

(11-15-2018 09:38 AM)griffinmill Wrote:  Why does Tinder have such a shitty algorithm anyway? Why not just let everyone see everyone and let the chips fall where they may?

Reframe: Shitty algorithm for you. Good for everyone else.

Put yourself in the shoes of a high-value woman on OKCupid in 2007 where everyone could see everyone else. How many creepy messages and PMs did she get from the lowest of the low-value men?

How many women refused to use online dating because of this?

There you have it.

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(11-15-2018 02:01 PM)corsega Wrote:  
(11-15-2018 08:50 AM)WannaBang Wrote:  I don't know what the fk is going on but I am almost certain it is to do with algorithms making it harder and harder for any man who isn't a drake or a chad to get any results even when he pays.

It's not the algorithms, it's the competition. The algorithms haven't changed.

(11-15-2018 08:50 AM)WannaBang Wrote:  I realise I sound like a whinger and that the violins are playing when I say it deeply saddens me how badly online dating has declined. It truly was the game-changer which allowed me to bang a sizeable number of girls after years of inceldom.

Well, you do sound like a whinger, you're right about that part. Focus on improving yourself.

Feel free to PM me if you want advice on your profile. I'll say that every guy who has PMed me who has whined and complained in this thread has had major, glaring issues with their SMV, photos, profile, or all of the above.

(11-15-2018 10:46 AM)DJ-Matt Wrote:  I was last on it in early 2015 before getting into an LTR. My results from the last 2 months using the SAME pictures and profile are awful. Where I was getting 10-15 matches before it dries up and had to reset, now I get 1-3 and they fizzle out and result in nothing.

I thought maybe they just dicked with the algorithm so that you could only get action by paying, so I tried plus and gold. Same results, so the dating market has actually gotten worse and gone 95/5.

Yes. Just like any market, it will continue to get more efficient.

You need to focus on improving yourself as a man. There are no shortcuts.

Time for a reality check. You should not be browsing these forums until you have dropped 20 pounds and gained muscle. Then, buy new clothes, get professional photos and you'll notice that your matches will go way up.

(11-15-2018 09:38 AM)griffinmill Wrote:  Why does Tinder have such a shitty algorithm anyway? Why not just let everyone see everyone and let the chips fall where they may?

Reframe: Shitty algorithm for you. Good for everyone else.

Put yourself in the shoes of a high-value woman on OKCupid in 2007 where everyone could see everyone else. How many creepy messages and PMs did she get from the lowest of the low-value men?

How many women refused to use online dating because of this?

There you have it.

I'd agree with you if you were saying this around Tinder's peak popularity days, but now I don't think its anything about an increase in competition. It's more of a rush to monetize the app as much as possible. To do that, you tweak the algorithm to encourage more users to spend money on the app to obtain the same results they were getting for free.

If you follow Match (Tinder's parent company) earning results, they LOVE to tout how many paying Tinder users they have and how much more they plan to grow revenues by milking money out of Tinder's large user base.

You don't continually grow revenues and # of paying users by keeping Tinder (the algorithm) the same way it was in 2014 and 2015. Even when Tinder first introduced Tinder Plus, not nearly as many forum users were complaining about a lack of matches. It's no coincidence that as Tinder increase number of paying users, the number of complaints of match slowdown increased too.

Having a quality profile will make you less vulnerable to a diluted Tinder experience, but it will not make you immune.
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(11-15-2018 09:38 AM)griffinmill Wrote:  Why does Tinder have such a shitty algorithm anyway? Why not just let everyone see everyone and let the chips fall where they may?

Yeah it’s a shame, that’s why I stopped using tinder a few months back. Their algorithm is developed to maximise their income, your results won’t be linked to your real SMV unless you are a tall ripped model having pro photos and displaying a dream lifestyle. It looks like online game is reaching a phase where only that type of guys will get results.

I see that some normal guys became experts in dealing with the tinder bullshit, understanding how the Elo score works, using several phone numbers, facebook accounts, resetting regularly their account, using the passport option to 3rd world countries to boost their ELO and swipe back to their real location, using pro photos and so on.

I respect you guys for putting in the effort, I really do. I just think by doing so we are becoming « tinder bitches », I mean we pay AND we need to comply to their biaised unfair algorithm? Fuck them.

I deleted the app around 4 months ago, maybe I’ll reinstall it to pipeline when I travel but so far I don’t miss it.

Edit: I just read in diagonal some if the above posts saying nothing is wrong with the algorithm and it’s simply the competition which increased...lol, in 2-3 years all the guys became suddently good lokking, ripped, rich and witty? Come on.
Edit2: Corsega, I am not attacking you with the above sentence, you are contributing actively and I am sure you added a lot of value to the guys who contacted you, I see also that you are putting in the effort in both tinder and IG so my hat down for that but I really believe Tinder has changed a lot over the last years and it can’t solely be explained by a higher competition.
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11-16-2018 06:34 AM
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RE: Tinder App
(11-15-2018 10:51 PM)NextStop100 Wrote:  
(11-15-2018 02:01 PM)corsega Wrote:  
(11-15-2018 08:50 AM)WannaBang Wrote:  I don't know what the fk is going on but I am almost certain it is to do with algorithms making it harder and harder for any man who isn't a drake or a chad to get any results even when he pays.

It's not the algorithms, it's the competition. The algorithms haven't changed.

(11-15-2018 08:50 AM)WannaBang Wrote:  I realise I sound like a whinger and that the violins are playing when I say it deeply saddens me how badly online dating has declined. It truly was the game-changer which allowed me to bang a sizeable number of girls after years of inceldom.

Well, you do sound like a whinger, you're right about that part. Focus on improving yourself.

Feel free to PM me if you want advice on your profile. I'll say that every guy who has PMed me who has whined and complained in this thread has had major, glaring issues with their SMV, photos, profile, or all of the above.

(11-15-2018 10:46 AM)DJ-Matt Wrote:  I was last on it in early 2015 before getting into an LTR. My results from the last 2 months using the SAME pictures and profile are awful. Where I was getting 10-15 matches before it dries up and had to reset, now I get 1-3 and they fizzle out and result in nothing.

I thought maybe they just dicked with the algorithm so that you could only get action by paying, so I tried plus and gold. Same results, so the dating market has actually gotten worse and gone 95/5.

Yes. Just like any market, it will continue to get more efficient.

You need to focus on improving yourself as a man. There are no shortcuts.

Time for a reality check. You should not be browsing these forums until you have dropped 20 pounds and gained muscle. Then, buy new clothes, get professional photos and you'll notice that your matches will go way up.

(11-15-2018 09:38 AM)griffinmill Wrote:  Why does Tinder have such a shitty algorithm anyway? Why not just let everyone see everyone and let the chips fall where they may?

Reframe: Shitty algorithm for you. Good for everyone else.

Put yourself in the shoes of a high-value woman on OKCupid in 2007 where everyone could see everyone else. How many creepy messages and PMs did she get from the lowest of the low-value men?

How many women refused to use online dating because of this?

There you have it.

I'd agree with you if you were saying this around Tinder's peak popularity days, but now I don't think its anything about an increase in competition. It's more of a rush to monetize the app as much as possible. To do that, you tweak the algorithm to encourage more users to spend money on the app to obtain the same results they were getting for free.

If you follow Match (Tinder's parent company) earning results, they LOVE to tout how many paying Tinder users they have and how much more they plan to grow revenues by milking money out of Tinder's large user base.

You don't continually grow revenues and # of paying users by keeping Tinder (the algorithm) the same way it was in 2014 and 2015. Even when Tinder first introduced Tinder Plus, not nearly as many forum users were complaining about a lack of matches. It's no coincidence that as Tinder increase number of paying users, the number of complaints of match slowdown increased too.

Having a quality profile will make you less vulnerable to a diluted Tinder experience, but it will not make you immune.

I agree with everything posted. Also, don't bother with professional pics until you get yourself into some decent shape. What's decent shape, if you take your shirt off at the pool you should be in markedly better shape than all the other guys. Top 3 guys at the pool, unless you're somewhere in vegas like Encore or Rehab, then top 10 will suffice. Getting professional pics done at 20%bf is will likely yield you no improved results.
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