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(12-14-2018 07:08 PM)spydersuit Wrote:  
(12-14-2018 10:27 AM)corsega Wrote:  
(12-14-2018 10:09 AM)spydersuit Wrote:  
(12-14-2018 09:28 AM)quaker13 Wrote:  
(12-13-2018 07:21 AM)Lino Wrote:  I was chatting with a girl I know yesterday, she’s a hard 6. She said nearly all the girls can fuck any man on dating apps, even the most attractive guys. She said some of these girls wouldn’t have a chance in real life but online they can hookup with any man, it’s just a matter of how horny he is.
Then she added that because they can get them all they keep increasing their standards.

Basically it’s not just female hypergamy but also male « hypogamy » that are in cause, men have low standards.

Got into a tinder conversation with the Italian girl, Italian from northern Italy, I hung out with this weekend and her tinder philosophy is beyond unforgiving. The bitch easily went through 2-3 pictures a second. She swiped left on facially attractive and men with nice physiques. Why, because their profile didn't have enough pop. I confronted her about it and she said she only swiped right on the profiles that immediately grabbed her attention. The bitch lives in miami and there are no shortage of attractive men down there and i was only one 3-4 dudes she had matched with. Her last date before me was in late October. I won't post her pic in this thread but you can find her on the last page of the moma and rudebwoy thread

And yet you guys keep using these fucking dating apps. You guys should keep track of how much time you spend on Tinder in a week. Instead you should use that time on your social circle, self improvement, and approaches.

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Oh, I can tell you.

I use the free plan. I get maximum 1260 swipes a week (90 every 12 hours).

I swipe on 1-2 profiles per second. I've used Tinder for so long I can immediately tell what I like and what I don't. I also use http://www.tind3r.com to preview my match queue for faster swiping. I spent 2-3 minutes a day swiping.

I get the number within 6-10 back and forths. Total time spent messaging on Tinder a day, maybe 5 minutes.

Yeah, you're right, maybe I should put those extremely valuable 8 minutes a day to better use tard

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Great. How many of these tinder women are you fucking on the first night when you meet them? How much time did it take to make the ***ultimate*** tinder profile?

64/101 were first night bangs. You seriously think that cold approaching leads to faster meet to bang times than Tinder? Not even close.

Tinder profile took very little time to curate. As I posted earlier in the thread, I took most of my photos myself.

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12-14-2018 09:03 PM
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RE: Tinder App
I really don't know how people are still pulling hookups from Tinder. These past 2 months it has down real badly. I think most girls just use it now for not even the attention but just to talk to someone else since they are such crazy bitches and are friends with girls similar like they are. I get plenty of matches but it always goes down like this:

ME: Pick up Line

Her: Response to pick up line (usually they write great line, thanks, how are your etc.)

then its 5 or 6 lines back to forth (school, something i saw in her pic other crap)

Me: Send me your phone number. Dont wanna lose the conversation since I got notifications off for this app.

Her: Either unmatches

or

She gives me her phone number. Continue convo there but starts to ghost me

Idk what is wrong with these girls and what they are expecting from tinder. I have even messaged a girl once telling her wtf she wasting my time and her time. She responded with a "Sorry".

Roosh is right and we should avoid dating apps. I get higher conversions from in person.
12-15-2018 12:46 AM
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I have the same problem! I'm not blaming the apps though.
12-15-2018 01:19 AM
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(12-15-2018 12:46 AM)for.petes.sake Wrote:  then its 5 or 6 lines back to forth (school, something i saw in her pic other crap)

This part is very important, you have to sell an emotional salad to the girl Read: Interesting and exciting and not come off as an Interview for a job. If you match a girl, she is already attracted to you, build this attraction, women don't right swipe on 1000 guys

(12-15-2018 12:46 AM)for.petes.sake Wrote:  Me: Send me your phone number. Dont wanna lose the conversation since I got notifications off for this app.

Propose a date and get a feeler if she is looking to meetup or not. Dont go to the phone number directly (Thats what every guy does). Only ask for digits for planning date logisitics. I think this has been said many times on this forum before

(12-15-2018 12:46 AM)for.petes.sake Wrote:  Her: Either unmatches

or

She gives me her phone number. Continue convo there but starts to ghost me
Unmatching Flaking Ghosting I don't know what to say about this, My Tinder is basically a grave yard of ghosts who i cant unmatch as this will hit my score on the algorithm: I have read on this forum that you will be flaked on till you die.

(12-15-2018 12:46 AM)for.petes.sake Wrote:  Roosh is right and we should avoid dating apps. I get higher conversions from in person.

Yeah Tinder can mess with your psyche as it presents a convoluted view of the world to you. It can be very bad for the weak hearted and i suggest you do not take the girls you see on Tinder too seriously, they will not take you serious trust me. Just have fun while you're on the app
12-15-2018 03:50 AM
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RE: Tinder App
(12-15-2018 12:46 AM)for.petes.sake Wrote:  I really don't know how people are still pulling hookups from Tinder. These past 2 months it has down real badly.
If it doesn't work, it's you not them, girls have an endless amount of cock to choose from, you need to make it interesting, be aloof and in control of the situation, getting it to a date within a couple of texts, if you can't keep the momentum going and it fizzles out, it's on you as it's a seller's market, not a buyer's.
(12-15-2018 12:46 AM)for.petes.sake Wrote:  I get plenty of matches but it always goes down like this:

ME: Pick up Line

Her: Response to pick up line (usually they write great line, thanks, how are your etc.)

then its 5 or 6 lines back to forth (school, something i saw in her pic other crap)

Me: Send me your phone number. Dont wanna lose the conversation since I got notifications off for this app.

Her: Either unmatches

or

She gives me her phone number. Continue convo there but starts to ghost me
At any point did you suggest a date? I suggest a date during my opening line sometimes, 6/10 times it works, others take a bit of graft or just die.
(12-15-2018 12:46 AM)for.petes.sake Wrote:  Idk what is wrong with these girls and what they are expecting from tinder. I have even messaged a girl once telling her wtf she wasting my time and her time. She responded with a "Sorry".
You sound bitter, maybe lay off Tinder? It's not for you.
12-15-2018 06:46 AM
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I am seeing the same profiles 3 or 4 times the same day, wtf is that??
12-15-2018 08:39 AM
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I'm posting right now from a bitches house that was kind enough to give me a warm rag post coitus. Before tinder I probably had a 150 or so notches. This was around 2014. Post tinder I've added to that by a significant margin can't tell you the exact numbers though. Point is, I've grinded and put in the work prior to "app life". Yet this app has spoiled me. I'm equally as successful maybe even a bit more on the app than i am IRL primarily because I'm exposed women I would otherwise not ever encounter
12-15-2018 10:01 AM
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(12-15-2018 08:39 AM)Lino Wrote:  I am seeing the same profiles 3 or 4 times the same day, wtf is that??
You've over swiped and there is no one left or your ELO is fucked or you need to adjust your settings.
12-15-2018 10:10 AM
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RE: Tinder App
(12-15-2018 10:10 AM)Bikal Wrote:  
(12-15-2018 08:39 AM)Lino Wrote:  I am seeing the same profiles 3 or 4 times the same day, wtf is that??
You've over swiped and there is no one left or your ELO is fucked or you need to adjust your settings.
Basically you don’t know.
12-15-2018 10:59 AM
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(12-15-2018 10:59 AM)Lino Wrote:  Basically you don’t know.
Actually it's one of those three, use your brain and do a process of elimination starting with the radius and age settings, change the age by one digit and see if it refreshes the stack, if it doesn't then you've swiped on everyone and your ELO is probably fucked too.
12-15-2018 11:06 AM
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(12-15-2018 11:06 AM)Bikal Wrote:  
(12-15-2018 10:59 AM)Lino Wrote:  Basically you don’t know.
Actually it's one of those three, use your brain and do a process of elimination starting with the radius and age settings, change the age by one digit and see if it refreshes the stack, if it doesn't then you've swiped on everyone and your ELO is probably fucked too.

I ignored your condescendant tone in your previous messages as I didn’t want to waste time and energy arguing with you but you continue so here we go, It’s none of the 3, genius:

- when there is no one left around you you simply don’t see any profile and the app tells you there is no one left.

- No one here knows 100% how the ELO works even if some have a more advanced knowledge, we know for sure that when the ELO is fucked we don’t get matches but suggesting that it’s the reason why I see the same profiles 3 or 4 times is pure speculation.

- the settings (age,distance): this one is basically a duplicate of the first.

So I repeat, basically you don’t know. If you wanna be arrogant at least say smart things, otherwise kindly shut up.
I’ll happily reply to smart and cordial answers but I won’t waste time with arrogant assholes who think they know everything.
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12-15-2018 11:38 AM
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Yeah, seeing the same profiles several times in a row has nothing to do with exhausting profiles or Elo score.

It's a bug. It has happened to me many times throughout the years and always resolves itself.

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The App recently asked me for a rating. I gave it a 1, then I said "transsexuals on app" as feedback. Everyone should do this. Its disgusting.
12-15-2018 07:48 PM
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(12-15-2018 03:50 AM)yang2287 Wrote:  Unmatching Flaking Ghosting I don't know what to say about this, My Tinder is basically a grave yard of ghosts who i cant unmatch as this will hit my score on the algorithm: I have read on this forum that you will be flaked on till you die.

I tend to unmatch girls if they're unresponsive, much uglier than I thought upon closer inspection, or otherwise a waste of time.

But unmatching girls actually affects your ELO score??
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(12-15-2018 10:10 PM)Ouroboros Wrote:  
(12-15-2018 03:50 AM)yang2287 Wrote:  Unmatching Flaking Ghosting I don't know what to say about this, My Tinder is basically a grave yard of ghosts who i cant unmatch as this will hit my score on the algorithm: I have read on this forum that you will be flaked on till you die.

I tend to unmatch girls if they're unresponsive, much uglier than I thought upon closer inspection, or otherwise a waste of time.

But unmatching girls actually affects your ELO score??

No. That's unproven.

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(12-15-2018 10:10 PM)Ouroboros Wrote:  But unmatching girls actually affects your ELO score??
My view is that it has a positive impact on your ELO, the number of times I've unmatched unresponsive girls only to start seeing more attractive girls has been a lot.

I think it's pretty much a given that if a girl unmatched with you, you take a hit but then there's no real knowledge on how it works, just guess work and anecdotal impacts.
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I unmatch all the time. I don’t get the point in keeping hundreds let alone a thousand matches is pointless and it’s a pain in the ass navigating all that shit. I got 2 hundred or so matches in miami and I nixed all of those bitches after I left. Wont be in Miami for a few months anyway so no point in keeping them. Not gonna rack my brain about elo score, been successful so far who cares about elo nuance
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(12-15-2018 03:50 AM)yang2287 Wrote:  
(12-15-2018 12:46 AM)for.petes.sake Wrote:  Me: Send me your phone number. Dont wanna lose the conversation since I got notifications off for this app.

Propose a date and get a feeler if she is looking to meetup or not. Dont go to the phone number directly (Thats what every guy does). Only ask for digits for planning date logisitics. I think this has been said many times on this forum before

I usually say along the lines of like Send me your number. Let's meet up this week

Putting out some time frame to meetup is sometimes good too.

One girl recently was like 'I can't really meet until after the new year but lets keep talking'.

I'm like nevermind.
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Exactly. That's a textbook "next girl". She's trying to set the frame herself which is a no-no. If she really wanted to meet, she wouldn't put up the wall like that.
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(12-16-2018 11:03 AM)Rang off the Pipe Wrote:  Exactly. That's a textbook "next girl". She's trying to set the frame herself which is a no-no. If she really wanted to meet, she wouldn't put up the wall like that.

To be fair, maybe she's with family now since it's the holidays. I can't meet any chicks until after New Year's either. I would just respond with: "Alright message me on Whatsapp after New Year's then".
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Tinder is mostly weird for me. Most conversations dont have a nice flirty vibe to it, but when I ask for date some girls still say yes and we fuck.

Example of my newest tinder conversation right now:

She works at a creative agentur. My opener(translated from german):

Kreativ one? smiley

She: Yes smiley smiley

ME: Be creative and give me a nickname smiley

She: Iam graphic designer not text smiley

Kinda awkard but still a conversation which could very well lead to sex.

Long story short: I dont really have the feeling that what you write does matter over tinder. Write a few sentences, then ask for date. If she is into you she says yes, if not no. Text doesnt change that much imo or Iam a horrible texter.

Another example:

She works as a brand manager. My opener:

If you would be a brand, how would you describe yourself? smiley

She: What?? smiley

Also a conversation which sadly could lead to sex.
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(12-16-2018 05:21 PM)Tikimalore Wrote:  Tinder is mostly weird for me. Most conversations dont have a nice flirty vibe to it, but when I ask for date some girls still say yes and we fuck.

Example of my newest tinder conversation right now:

She works at a creative agentur. My opener(translated from german):

Kreativ one? smiley

She: Yes smiley smiley

ME: Be creative and give me a nickname smiley

She: Iam graphic designer not text smiley

Kinda awkard but still a conversation which could very well lead to sex.

Long story short: I dont really have the feeling that what you write does matter over tinder. Write a few sentences, then ask for date. If she is into you she says yes, if not no. Text doesnt change that much imo or Iam a horrible texter.

Another example:

She works as a brand manager. My opener:

If you would be a brand, how would you describe yourself? smiley

She: What?? smiley

Also a conversation which sadly could lead to sex.

I think it is location dependent, maybe you live in a city with good ratios and where there are more girls dick hunting. Care to share what city this is in Gemany?

Me i live in the middle of a Sausage-fest in Brest France, It's hard enough to get a match with all the dudes thumping boosts, super likes and all the paid to play tinder proposes each day

And when i do get the match here am almost a dancing monkey riding a bicycle on a tight rope 3 meters high in a circus. One misstep and she ghosts, flakes or unmatches

Again this depends on where you are, there is no one-size fits all. If you live in a pussy paradise, by all means enjoy, if you do find yourself in a millitary shit hole sausage party like me, every text you send has to be curated, you have to be literally playing a game of chess with these girls with you being 2 moves ahead.

This is where copy-paste start to finish text thread comes in. Each sentence or line in the copy-paste has to have been tested over and over again and it elicits the same reaction from 200 different girls, it's almost magic
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(12-16-2018 06:19 PM)yang2287 Wrote:  Me i live in the middle of a Sausage-fest in Brest France, It's hard enough to get a match with all the dudes thumping boosts, super likes and all the paid to play tinder proposes each day

I spent a few months there, I feel you man. A few years back the best bar in the city was the Latina cafe, it had the cutest girls in the city, I think it was at the end of rue de Siam.
The city itself sucks but in summertime you can explore the region and it’s gorgeous, you can surf as well...anyway that’s off topic.
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(12-16-2018 05:21 PM)Tikimalore Wrote:  Tinder is mostly weird for me. Most conversations dont have a nice flirty vibe to it, but when I ask for date some girls still say yes and we fuck.

Example of my newest tinder conversation right now:

She works at a creative agentur. My opener(translated from german):

Kreativ one? smiley

She: Yes smiley smiley

ME: Be creative and give me a nickname smiley

She: Iam graphic designer not text smiley

Kinda awkard but still a conversation which could very well lead to sex.

Long story short: I dont really have the feeling that what you write does matter over tinder. Write a few sentences, then ask for date. If she is into you she says yes, if not no. Text doesnt change that much imo or Iam a horrible texter.

Another example:

She works as a brand manager. My opener:

If you would be a brand, how would you describe yourself? smiley

She: What?? smiley

Also a conversation which sadly could lead to sex.

You are eliciting too much investment from these girls upfront. It's Tinder. They are there to put the LEAST effort in possible.

Ask directed questions until they start to invest in you.

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(12-14-2018 09:03 PM)corsega Wrote:  
(12-14-2018 07:08 PM)spydersuit Wrote:  
(12-14-2018 10:27 AM)corsega Wrote:  
(12-14-2018 10:09 AM)spydersuit Wrote:  
(12-14-2018 09:28 AM)quaker13 Wrote:  Got into a tinder conversation with the Italian girl, Italian from northern Italy, I hung out with this weekend and her tinder philosophy is beyond unforgiving. The bitch easily went through 2-3 pictures a second. She swiped left on facially attractive and men with nice physiques. Why, because their profile didn't have enough pop. I confronted her about it and she said she only swiped right on the profiles that immediately grabbed her attention. The bitch lives in miami and there are no shortage of attractive men down there and i was only one 3-4 dudes she had matched with. Her last date before me was in late October. I won't post her pic in this thread but you can find her on the last page of the moma and rudebwoy thread

And yet you guys keep using these fucking dating apps. You guys should keep track of how much time you spend on Tinder in a week. Instead you should use that time on your social circle, self improvement, and approaches.

Facepalm

Oh, I can tell you.

I use the free plan. I get maximum 1260 swipes a week (90 every 12 hours).

I swipe on 1-2 profiles per second. I've used Tinder for so long I can immediately tell what I like and what I don't. I also use http://www.tind3r.com to preview my match queue for faster swiping. I spent 2-3 minutes a day swiping.

I get the number within 6-10 back and forths. Total time spent messaging on Tinder a day, maybe 5 minutes.

Yeah, you're right, maybe I should put those extremely valuable 8 minutes a day to better use tard

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Great. How many of these tinder women are you fucking on the first night when you meet them? How much time did it take to make the ***ultimate*** tinder profile?

64/101 were first night bangs. You seriously think that cold approaching leads to faster meet to bang times than Tinder? Not even close.

Tinder profile took very little time to curate. As I posted earlier in the thread, I took most of my photos myself.

Yes. I have secured at least 1 ONS per week for the past 8 years by minimally approaching (3-4 approaches per outing) at bars and clubs (night game) and at malls and events (daygame). You should work on raising your value. You can be much more efficient with your time and have a higher closing percentage with approaching. I have not taken any of these women on a date. Personally, I know other men in this forum that have had much better results, compared to me, from approaching, 2-3 bangs on average per week (no dates). Go ahead, tinder away. It is one less man that we have to compete with.
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