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Also sidebar, I think Corsega is an alright dude. I've given sassy responses to things he's said earlier in this thread, and he hasn't been sassy back/gave good, sensible responses.
12-23-2018 04:32 AM
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Except his belief that SF is the hardest city in the states for Tinder. That's just a laughable sentiment.
12-23-2018 04:58 AM
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I think Tinder does have an incentive to shuffle profiles based on other criteria than ELO score. If I were to guess, 'likelihood of matching' would be an important criterion. I mention this because match rate is their most obvious metric for a successful Tinder run. If Tinder's goal is "get people to match and talk to each other", it seems natural that they would optimise profile exposure according to who is likely to swipe on whom.

It doesn't sound hard to come up with something like that. Say girls X, Y, and Z all swiped right for the same guy. It is concluded that X, Y, Z have a similar taste in men. If X swipes right for some other guy, then Y and Z have a higher likelihood of swiping right for him as well and thus would be good candidates for that other guy's deck.

Assuming they do use this kind of algorithm, the question is how these profiles are presented. One way is to simply sort 'high match potential' profiles higher in the deck. Another is to inject these profiles in an otherwise random deck. And another way would be clustering. "Here's a deck of girls who are likely to swipe right on you."

Continuing that thought process, I could see the value in presenting these profile groups - or clusters - to categorise a new user. New user signs up. Show him a small cluster of "hipster girls" - X, Y, Z, Y. If one or two of them like him and he likes them back, boom, he's a hipster. As yang2287 has mentioned, that kind of data slicing is also an opportunity for performance optimisation.

I do feel that I'm shown certain types of girls more than other types. For example, I get a lot of alternative girls. I do look vaguely alternative myself so they probably like me more than other guys. Another example: I'm white, but I like girls of all races, including black girls. I live in a place with lots of black girls, yet I rarely see them on Tinder. Couldn't it be because guys within my profile group rarely swipe right for black girls (and vice-versa)?

Of course, all of this is anecdotal. Corsega is completely right that we are vulnerable to cognitive biases and tend to focus on potentially made up bullshit instead of controllable things. In the end it all boils down to good quality pics. But Tinder does have a lot of data at this point and I'd be surprised if they don't experiment with their shuffling algorithms. Even if they do, however, we don't know enough to get anything actionable and we probably never will. Best to focus on image building which will work regardless of what Tinder is doing behind the scenes.
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12-23-2018 05:58 AM
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(12-23-2018 02:38 AM)yang2287 Wrote:  An incentive for Tinder to cluster profiles during swipe?
Well take for example the fact that Tinder has 1.6 billion swipes per day, that's 1.6 billion requests made to the server per day for profiles to swipe on

That's a massive head ache for the database who has to respond to these requests

It would make sense to cluster the user profile data in this database using a new field that defines profile classes to make the response to these requests predictable and not "random"

So if Loser 1 requests profile to swipe on, the dbms doesn't randomly pick a profile, he knows exactly to go to a particular class of profiles to show Loser 1 since Loser 1 is never gonna be shown to hot girl 1 anyway and that way we save some bandwidth, maintenance time, server response time etc.

You will notice that when you use an unofficial Tinder client on GitHub Pynder (https://github.com/charliewolf/pynder) that requests for profile to swipe on doesn't return a single profile, it returns a vector of profiles. So it will make sense to class these profiles since you are gonna be sending more than one profile for each request anyway

Again these are my theories which could damn well be wrong but what do I know

OK, that's an interesting explanation from a technical perspective. I still don't agree, but it's definitely a theory Smile

(12-23-2018 04:29 AM)MaceTyrell Wrote:  Knowing Tinder as well as a Tinder employee is not really an admirable goal.

Agreed. When I first started I thought it would give me some edge, and it did, I knew a bunch of hacks that made me have a lot more success than many guys.

But nowadays, Tinder has plugged pretty much all the hacks. Now even http://www.tind3r.com has gone down, so I can't GPS spoof my location easily. Anyone else have another solution?

(12-23-2018 04:58 AM)MaceTyrell Wrote:  Except his belief that SF is the hardest city in the states for Tinder. That's just a laughable sentiment.

I will caveat that and say "hardest major city for an average white dude".

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12-23-2018 10:37 AM
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(12-22-2018 03:01 AM)Lino Wrote:  [quote='Lino' pid='1904446' dateline='1544881178']
I am seeing the same profiles 3 or 4 times the same day, wtf is that??

That means you have been banned again I think. Delete your account and buy Tinder Gold.
12-23-2018 02:46 PM
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So wait, I should remake my tinder and only swipe right on the best looking women? Do this in order to hack my tinder and get better matches? Cause many guys swipe on everybody.
12-23-2018 02:51 PM
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(12-23-2018 02:51 PM)Donfitz007 Wrote:  So wait, I should remake my tinder and only swipe right on the best looking women? Do this in order to hack my tinder and get better matches? Cause many guys swipe on everybody.

Don't swipe right on everybody, as Tinder has a mechanism in place that tanks your Elo. On the other hand, there's no evidence that only swiping right on the best looking women massively raises Elo.

From personal tests, as long as you are at least a little selective (let's say minimum 1 left swipe out of every 10), you're good to go.

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12-23-2018 06:11 PM
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(12-23-2018 02:46 PM)Mr Pump Wrote:  
(12-22-2018 03:01 AM)Lino Wrote:  [quote='Lino' pid='1904446' dateline='1544881178']
I am seeing the same profiles 3 or 4 times the same day, wtf is that??

That means you have been banned again I think. Delete your account and buy Tinder Gold.

« Banned again »? What makes you think I have been banned?
That’s a very suspect first post. We all bang5 you’re back again??

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12-23-2018 07:04 PM
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But nowadays, Tinder has plugged pretty much all the hacks. Now even http://www.tind3r.com has gone down, so I can't GPS spoof my location easily. Anyone else have another solution?

developer mode & the official tinder website on chrome desktop version works pretty reliably to change location, 6tin for windows (or windows phone?) is a possibility but it's buggy and not reliable for me.

I agree that this is important because at least for me..even if you have tinder plus and are passport-ing around , it's MUCH more frustrating / difficult to set up the meet if tinder is showing the girls you're more than like 25miles/40km away. They have so many options they just aren't as likely to consider you a real prospect unless they think you're local right now.

One unrelated random observation: on the android tinder app , you can narrow down your target age range , whereas iphone app and tinder web version 4 years is the smallest age range you can set.
12-23-2018 07:29 PM
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Allright I am posting this just for the sake of honesty as I have been logging here the results of my tinder experiment. I still don’t like dating apps but this weekend I got laid yesterday and today with tinder...the first was a chick I matched with a week ago and only had time to meet her yesterday, the second was a girl I matched with today, She was in my bed 3 hours after the match.

Easy lays, both chicks were 6,5-7..but I don’t enjoy the swiping process and feel no glory in these hookups even though both chicks were reasonably hot, I don’t feel like a conquerer in this fucking swiping process. I still have very few matches and have the feeling the only way a hot chick sees my profile in my city is to superlike her, that’s what I did with these 2 chicks.
It’s a long xmas weekend here so I’m guessing that helped with the 2 chicks.
I still prefer the adrenaline rush of cold approaching a girl in real life...will continue the experiment for a month as I bought tinder +
12-23-2018 07:47 PM
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Lino you and I have differing levels of pride apparently. I don’t enjoy an IRL cold approach lay anymore than I do an equivalent lay on tinder. Hell, I might even like it less because I likely invested more time and resources into the cold approach lay. Tinder is very satisfying so long as I continue to be very selective regarding my swipes
12-23-2018 07:58 PM
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(12-23-2018 07:29 PM)dirty_old Wrote:  But nowadays, Tinder has plugged pretty much all the hacks. Now even http://www.tind3r.com has gone down, so I can't GPS spoof my location easily. Anyone else have another solution?

developer mode & the official tinder website on chrome desktop version works pretty reliably to change location, 6tin for windows (or windows phone?) is a possibility but it's buggy and not reliable for me.

I agree that this is important because at least for me..even if you have tinder plus and are passport-ing around , it's MUCH more frustrating / difficult to set up the meet if tinder is showing the girls you're more than like 25miles/40km away. They have so many options they just aren't as likely to consider you a real prospect unless they think you're local right now.

One unrelated random observation: on the android tinder app , you can narrow down your target age range , whereas iphone app and tinder web version 4 years is the smallest age range you can set.

Thanks for the 6tin recommendation. Seems to be working OK so far!

What exactly are you targeting that you need a narrower range than 4 years? ;-)

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12-23-2018 08:40 PM
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(12-23-2018 07:47 PM)Lino Wrote:  Allright I am posting this just for the sake of honesty....

Easy lays, both chicks were 6,5-7..

but I don’t enjoy the swiping process

...and feel no glory in these hookups

even though both chicks were reasonably hot,

I don’t feel like a conquerer in this fucking swiping process.

It’s a long xmas weekend here so I’m guessing that helped with the 2 chicks....

I still prefer...

i have been using Tinder, since it started.. You clearly lying and trying to justify your lies. Chicks jump on your cock, because its Xmas? Right... You make 7s sound like Santa Claus.
6.5-7.. easy lays? Haha. In your dreams...

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12-24-2018 04:26 AM
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We all bang 5, go see a shrink and stop trolling this forum, really.
12-24-2018 05:03 AM
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(12-24-2018 05:03 AM)Lino Wrote:  We all bang 5, go see a shrink and stop trolling this forum, really.

No idea what you are talking about. Well, I guess if you throw a few bucks at Roosh and got a membership, you can post whatever bullshit and be legit. No wonder the forum went to shitters, if enrichers like Lino are allowed to post.

What's next on Tinder, Lino. Will you match and bang Santa Claus tomorrow? For fucks sake.
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12-24-2018 05:18 AM
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@montrose

Probably your connection or you're on a vpn

Was just in a hotel/hostel that would have all the people staying on tinder log me out due to a same IP situation
12-25-2018 12:28 AM
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So i tried googling but couldnt find an answer - I created an account a week ago and after swiping every day, only have 4 matches which came within the first two days (st louis).

Im guessing since I havent paid anything my matches are getting limited (I am always shown a queue of 3+ likes that can be unlocked with plus).

I only swipe on women I’d bang, which is low. Is tinder plus my best option? I heard gold was a waste. Also is plus guaranteed to get me more matches? Assuming I’m a 7+.
12-26-2018 04:30 PM
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Those matches you see in the queue will show up (without Plus) if you change your range settings and/or give it a few days.
Plus is not guaranteed to get you more matches.
The only thing that will help with more matches is Boost, as it will send your profile to the top of stacks in the region.
The most likely reason for your bad results are bad pictures. Even if you're 7+, your pictures don't necessarily communicate that.
12-26-2018 05:17 PM
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^^ My profile isnt incredible but my body is top 1%, and face is 7+. I know my competition in stl isnt great so I thought it was strange that I’d get matches for 1-2 days then nothing after. So plus wouldn’t do me any good? The app doesnt’ limit matches in irder to get people to pay for plus?
12-26-2018 05:51 PM
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If you created a new account and your matches aren’t going up yet you have a 99 percentile physique this tells me it could be a few things. You could be swiping very discriminating like like myself. Meaning you don’t swipe on anything less than a 7.5 or higher. If you do this it still takes them a minute to get through their stack remember. Hot bitches done spend hours on tinder. They spend a few minutes here and there which is why I still get matches from Miami despite having left their almost 3 weeks ago. Secondarily, despite the impressive physique your pics are utter shit in terms of quality. Women reject jacked dudes with shit pictures all the time. Away to determine if this is in fact the case is to pay for boost and see if your results are still shit, if they are it’s your pics and you’ll need to ramble $300 to pay a good editorial photographer
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(12-26-2018 06:28 PM)quaker13 Wrote:  If you created a new account and your matches aren’t going up yet you have a 99 percentile physique this tells me it could be a few things. You could be swiping very discriminating like like myself. Meaning you don’t swipe on anything less than a 7.5 or higher. If you do this it still takes them a minute to get through their stack remember. Hot bitches done spend hours on tinder. They spend a few minutes here and there which is why I still get matches from Miami despite having left their almost 3 weeks ago. Secondarily, despite the impressive physique your pics are utter shit in terms of quality. Women reject jacked dudes with shit pictures all the time. Away to determine if this is in fact the case is to pay for boost and see if your results are still shit, if they are it’s your pics and you’ll need to ramble $300 to pay a good editorial photographer

This is all good advice.

I'm guessing it's a combination of your profile not keeping up with the competition and you being a very selective swiper.

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(12-26-2018 06:28 PM)quaker13 Wrote:  If you created a new account and your matches aren’t going up yet you have a 99 percentile physique this tells me it could be a few things. You could be swiping very discriminating like like myself. Meaning you don’t swipe on anything less than a 7.5 or higher. If you do this it still takes them a minute to get through their stack remember. Hot bitches done spend hours on tinder. They spend a few minutes here and there which is why I still get matches from Miami despite having left their almost 3 weeks ago. Secondarily, despite the impressive physique your pics are utter shit in terms of quality. Women reject jacked dudes with shit pictures all the time. Away to determine if this is in fact the case is to pay for boost and see if your results are still shit, if they are it’s your pics and you’ll need to ramble $300 to pay a good editorial photographer

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Quaker13 I think that you are black? Do you feel it has some kind of impact on your results in North America?

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I started using photofeeler. I rated my usual Tinder pics (20 ratings each) and got 41, 61 and 78 attractiveness (smart around 60, trust around 50). Then I rated a bunch of other pics and now I have three pics with 93, 84 and 83 attractiveness, smart around 80 and trust around 75. What’s funny is that I don’t really like those popular pics. My favorite pic is the one rated 41. It is well known that people don’t know how to choose their best pic, but I didn’t think it was that bad.

Immediately afterward I wrote to some of my current Tinder matches who had been completely silent, and two of them replied. Let’s see if it translates to more matches in the future.
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(12-28-2018 02:46 AM)Montrose Wrote:  I started using photofeeler. I rated my usual Tinder pics (20 ratings each) and got 41, 61 and 78 attractiveness (smart around 60, trust around 50). Then I rated a bunch of other pics and now I have three pics with 93, 84 and 83 attractiveness, smart around 80 and trust around 75. What’s funny is that I don’t really like those popular pics. My favorite pic is the one rated 41. It is well known that people don’t know how to choose their best pic, but I didn’t think it was that bad.

Immediately afterward I wrote to some of my current Tinder matches who had been completely silent, and two of them replied. Let’s see if it translates to more matches in the future.

Okay thanks for the heads up about photofeeler. Just ran a pic through there. Ouch!
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