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RE: Tinder App
(12-08-2018 12:03 AM)corsega Wrote:  Tinder is not garbage.

You are garbage.

Tinder is the new normal. Tinder is society, and you are how society sees you. If you aren't having success on Tinder, society has determined that, in your current state, your genes are unworthy of passing on to the next generation.

Unfair? Tough shit. Become a better man, and success will follow.

(12-08-2018 03:52 AM)corsega Wrote:  The guys getting no matches, the guys complaining, the guys endlessly crying in every forum about how "teh algorithm iz broken!" were all low value. Period.

Given that belief, help me explain this:

I'm tall, a lifelong weightlifter, and lean enough to have visible abs. The photos I put up aren't shitty selfies, they show me out in cool places. Every pic I use on dating apps scores at least top 20% attractiveness on photofeeler. Some are top 10%. I'm very professionally successful. I'm game-aware enough to keep my bios and conversations light and positive.

I quit using Tinder because it felt like a massive waste of time, but I'm on every other popular dating platform. I rarely get a match on Bumble. In general, 99% of the matches I get on dating apps either turn out to be SIFs when I look more closely, or if they're actually cute, put zero effort into the conversation (if they respond at all). Across all dating platforms, I meet a worthwhile girl about once every few months on average.

So does that constitute "success," or am I just incredibly low-value?
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RE: Tinder App
Even on Tinder "Chads" aren't winning. Below is one data sheet but I've come across many. I have yet to see a data sheet of a "hot guy" getting higher than 10% on Tinder (empirically not anecdotally).

https://www.reddit.com/r/Tinder/comments...ow_effort/


Now some people claim "they could had used a hotter guy" but this fake profile only a 7.4% match rate and only 8.5% of those matches sent him a message.


So if "Chads" are "failing" (although still able to get the occasional lay) at Tinder then it's really a pointless app for regular guys and nevermind ugly ones.
12-08-2018 01:02 PM
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RE: Tinder App
(12-08-2018 12:23 PM)Delta Wrote:  
(12-08-2018 12:03 AM)corsega Wrote:  Tinder is not garbage.

You are garbage.

Tinder is the new normal. Tinder is society, and you are how society sees you. If you aren't having success on Tinder, society has determined that, in your current state, your genes are unworthy of passing on to the next generation.

Unfair? Tough shit. Become a better man, and success will follow.

(12-08-2018 03:52 AM)corsega Wrote:  The guys getting no matches, the guys complaining, the guys endlessly crying in every forum about how "teh algorithm iz broken!" were all low value. Period.

Given that belief, help me explain this:

I'm tall, a lifelong weightlifter, and lean enough to have visible abs. The photos I put up aren't shitty selfies, they show me out in cool places. Every pic I use on dating apps scores at least top 20% attractiveness on photofeeler. Some are top 10%. I'm very professionally successful. I'm game-aware enough to keep my bios and conversations light and positive.

I quit using Tinder because it felt like a massive waste of time, but I'm on every other popular dating platform. I rarely get a match on Bumble. In general, 99% of the matches I get on dating apps either turn out to be SIFs when I look more closely, or if they're actually cute, put zero effort into the conversation (if they respond at all). Across all dating platforms, I meet a worthwhile girl about once every few months on average.

So does that constitute "success," or am I just incredibly low-value?


Location is also a big factor, what about your location? What does your local sexual market say about you? Are your fellow competing dudes over pricing pussy ? Is the male-female ratio good?

Age is another overlooked Factor, personally i have 2 profiles positioned at 30 and 25 years which i move around several cities

This shit ain't simple man, Tinder is go hard or go home

I know i get 1 match per day but i am sure there are Chads that get tons of matches

What shocked me the most is the positive feedback loop that ensues when you get a few matches in a very short space of time. You start to get even more matches. This is ridiculous.

Tinder is not here to show your profile around, Tinder actually hides your profile until the girls in your Sexual market start voting that it is you they want.

Seriously the biggest problem in Tinder is that the algorithm hides everyone's profile and shows to a few Top Chads the profile of all the girls.

So if the girls in your local sexual market aren't voting up your profile, then you can be sure it's under a pile of heap.

We can even go into the fact on the way men and Women use Tinder, it's ridiculosly funny Smile

Men come on Tinder and stay for the rest of their lives

Women show up when they need d**k, gets shown to Chad , Chad gets the match and she hides her profile for the next one month or doesn't even get notifications if you are thumping up boosts

Meanwhile Chad lines up all the girls : Britney for Mon, Ashley Tues, Courtney Wednesday etc etc all by SMS

so the DTF girls don't even stay on the app, they show up pick a d**k and leave very fast

The question is do they see you when they show up??
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(12-08-2018 12:03 AM)corsega Wrote:  Tinder is the new normal. Tinder is society, and you are how society sees you. If you aren't having success on Tinder, society has determined that, in your current state, your genes are unworthy of passing on to the next generation.

Tinder distorts reality and brings out the worst qualities of female sexuality.

Your average plain jane has her choice of hunks that she can hookup with every day of the week. Does that mean the other 95% of guys are worthless? No. It just means that Tinder (and other dating apps like it) are a losing game from the onset and a horrendously bad value proposition.

Framing this pretty obvious fact as "oh...you're just not good enough" is a little dishonest. You honestly can't sit here and tell me that the dating market is healthy.
12-08-2018 01:54 PM
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I don't think corsega thinks it is healthy, maybe he even considers it completely degenerate. What he is saying though, while using blunt language, is that sexual market went through series of changes (in my opinion for the worse) and in that regard it became obvious what kind of men it favors.

Sexual market nowadays established narrative that majority of males are worthless, we could even say that it regressed into the primal stage of human nature. If you are not a "handsome hunk with motorcycle and tattoos" (used stereotypical example here), you are not worthy for women found on online dating apps/websites. Doesn't matter that maybe guy on photos has fake tattoos, used perfect lighting and photoshop and borrowed friend's motorcycle. What counts is what is obvious on pictures. Game will play role only later, when (or if!) he meets the chick, but during swiping phase, if you are not attractive, you are invisible.

Sad I know, but the sooner we accept this as a fact and move on, it will be better for us.
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(12-08-2018 12:02 PM)PadawanScrub Wrote:  You had some serious congruence going on.
Yes, I know my target market and I aim for them. The profile also works well in Russia, keep it in English with a Russian addition to rope them in.
(12-08-2018 12:02 PM)PadawanScrub Wrote:  I might just dress like a typical NYC hipster and let my physique do the talking through the clothing.
If you do, ensure you keep it uniform across the board with what you're wearing and what you're doing.
(12-08-2018 12:02 PM)PadawanScrub Wrote:  The bio part confuses me, I know for sure you don't want to come off whiny or negative. It's supposed to be fun and upbeat without pandering and like you said. It should be succinct.
I put in my height, lame joke about said height, another lame joke about food and a one word complete lie. It worked well, keep in mind that it wasn't any longer than a full sentence but short and sweet with well shot photos makes it easier for them to swipe right as they get it all in one.
(12-08-2018 01:02 PM)BaatumMania Wrote:  https://www.reddit.com/r/Tinder/comments...ow_effort/

Now some people claim "they could had used a hotter guy" but this fake profile only a 7.4% match rate and only 8.5% of those matches sent him a message.
Actually I'd claim that the bio shouldn't have said "Not looking for anything serious" that's a red flag for girls, no matter how hot, they don't tend to see it positively. This plays into the bias of the OP, he's sought a result and got it.

I'd also question the validity of the sample due to it being based in Japan where I understand Tinder's used differently to the UK/US, the entire 'Data Analysis' is BS with extreme bias that proved nothing due to how unfavourably bias it is towards the OP's view.
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(12-08-2018 02:10 PM)sterling_archer Wrote:  I don't think corsega thinks it is healthy, maybe he even considers it completely degenerate. What he is saying though, while using blunt language, is that sexual market went through series of changes (in my opinion for the worse) and in that regard it became obvious what kind of men it favors.

Sexual market nowadays established narrative that majority of males are worthless, we could even say that it regressed into the primal stage of human nature. If you are not a "handsome hunk with motorcycle and tattoos" (used stereotypical example here), you are not worthy for women found on online dating apps/websites. Doesn't matter that maybe guy on photos has fake tattoos, used perfect lighting and photoshop and borrowed friend's motorcycle. What counts is what is obvious on pictures. Game will play role only later, when (or if!) he meets the chick, but during swiping phase, if you are not attractive, you are invisible.

Sad I know, but the sooner we accept this as a fact and move on, it will be better for us.

I don't disagree with this, but I'm one of those guys with zero game and experience that looks in from the outside and thinks wtf is even the point?

The dating landscape has changed, and it's adapt or die...but I'm picking the latter. I will never lower myself for a chance at these broken, selfish, psychopathic sluts. Fuck what they want. I hope all 100% of them end up as lonely old cat ladies.
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That is a shame Barney.

I forgot who wrote it, but I read a post here one time which basically said that the only reason you are here is because your father, his father, and 1,000 generations of fathers before them met women and had sex with them. This really resonated with me.

You are the result of thousands of men who made an effort to reproduce, and did so. Do you think they never had challenges along the way? Of course they did. Life has never been easy. But they persevered through them, like men should.

Willingly saying “I have no desire to even attempt to meet women anymore” is really shameful, especially when people (including myself) have written a ton of posts in order to help you in other threads.
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(12-08-2018 12:03 AM)corsega Wrote:  Told you lightly over PM, I will give you the harder advice in public, as it appears you have not internalized it.

Tinder is not garbage.

You are garbage.

I'm not going to argue this point with you as we did discuss this over PM, but you're missing my point. I used the same pictures 3 years ago and had decent results, nothing great but I got a few dates out of it. Obviously something has changed. Tinder is way worse than it used to be.

Plus I don't give enough of a fuck about these sluts where I'm going to spend 24 hours in the gym so I can look like that chad aussie vet doc. I work out for me, so that I'm healthy and look decent, not to get ripped for thots. I have better things to do like working on my business and stacking money to get the fuck out of here and marry an illiterate Appalachian hottie then pump out 50 kids.

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(12-08-2018 01:54 PM)Barney Wrote:  
(12-08-2018 12:03 AM)corsega Wrote:  Tinder is the new normal. Tinder is society, and you are how society sees you. If you aren't having success on Tinder, society has determined that, in your current state, your genes are unworthy of passing on to the next generation.

Tinder distorts reality and brings out the worst qualities of female sexuality.

Your average plain jane has her choice of hunks that she can hookup with every day of the week. Does that mean the other 95% of guys are worthless? No. It just means that Tinder (and other dating apps like it) are a losing game from the onset and a horrendously bad value proposition.

Framing this pretty obvious fact as "oh...you're just not good enough" is a little dishonest. You honestly can't sit here and tell me that the dating market is healthy.

I personally went from doing well on Tinder (routinely matching 8-9s; occasional banging them, while routinely banging 6-7s, and keep in mind this was in Toronto) in 2013, to getting close to nothing by 2016. So did my value become that much lower in that 2-3 year period? The Game suddenly decided my genes were garbage? Tinder's (and all of social media's) design makes it so that even average women have endless options. This effect has snowballed and metastasized so that a woman who is a 6 can confidently shoot down a man who is objectively better than her. This does not mean the man is garbage or even unworthy.
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A comment of mine that refers to this theme.

Tinder Sucks
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Yeah online dating, in general, has taken a dive....Tinder sucks, Bumble sucks (due to lack of members) pof is full of single moms, and OKcupid committed suicide.

I don't think it has anything to do with "chads". I think women simply got what they want and left. They never truly wanted sex except for those drunken lonely nights. Rather they wanted that validation from high-level men and now that they got it they're well going their own way.

That's why I think Day game is the best way again. Day game, however, needs to be adapted to fit with modern times. Instead of "harassing" (I personally don't think it's harassment) I think we need to enhance "indirect game". Every guy has watched a basedzeus video, Teachingmenstyle video, etc and learned to make their tinder perfect. It's not knowledge for the select few anymore its out there for EVERYBODY.

I think Day/Night Game is making a comeback. Where the standards are even higher.

Food for thought.

If a woman can range anywhere from 4-10 on the rating scale and all get the same amount of men what happens? If those same women put zero effort in their pictures, have the dumbest most repulsive bios, and offer nothing but MAYBE sex what happens?

I believe those women are going to think "maybe this isn't the best I can do....."
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(12-08-2018 07:18 AM)Anchor Man Wrote:  @corsega
What is the definition of a high value male from your perspective ? I mean in the social media world
Could you list very few bullet points

https://www.instagram.com/kylepreneur/

(12-08-2018 12:23 PM)Delta Wrote:  Given that belief, help me explain this:

I'm tall, a lifelong weightlifter, and lean enough to have visible abs. The photos I put up aren't shitty selfies, they show me out in cool places. Every pic I use on dating apps scores at least top 20% attractiveness on photofeeler. Some are top 10%. I'm very professionally successful. I'm game-aware enough to keep my bios and conversations light and positive.

I quit using Tinder because it felt like a massive waste of time, but I'm on every other popular dating platform. I rarely get a match on Bumble. In general, 99% of the matches I get on dating apps either turn out to be SIFs when I look more closely, or if they're actually cute, put zero effort into the conversation (if they respond at all). Across all dating platforms, I meet a worthwhile girl about once every few months on average.

So does that constitute "success," or am I just incredibly low-value?

Again: in years of doing this, I have never seen a single outlier, so there is a part of the story missing here. Without any more specifics, it could be your face, certain aspects of your photos, your bio, your standards are too high, etc.

I am happy to look over your profile and give you advice via PM.

(12-08-2018 01:02 PM)BaatumMania Wrote:  Even on Tinder "Chads" aren't winning. Below is one data sheet but I've come across many. I have yet to see a data sheet of a "hot guy" getting higher than 10% on Tinder (empirically not anecdotally).

https://www.reddit.com/r/Tinder/comments...ow_effort/


Now some people claim "they could had used a hotter guy" but this fake profile only a 7.4% match rate and only 8.5% of those matches sent him a message.


So if "Chads" are "failing" (although still able to get the occasional lay) at Tinder then it's really a pointless app for regular guys and nevermind ugly ones.

Getting 75 matches in 1010 swipes is failing to you? I think you need to redefine your standards. Getting the "occasional" lay?! LOLLLLLL

Not to mention the problems with the experiment as noted by Bikal above: "not looking for anything serious" in bio, experiment taking place in Japan, etc.

I have done multiple Tinder experiments with attractive men. They basically have their pick of the litter. They could line up 1-2 dates a night with hot girls, no problem.

Suspend your belief and try it yourself sometime.

(12-08-2018 06:45 PM)Donfitz007 Wrote:  I think Day/Night Game is making a comeback. Where the standards are even higher.

Making a... comeback? What are you basing your ideas on exactly?

Because, outside of this forum, nightclubs are closing down and Generation Z is going outside less than ever. Oh, and Tinder continues to gain more FEMALE users.

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(12-08-2018 08:49 PM)corsega Wrote:  Making a... comeback? What are you basing your ideas on exactly?

Because, outside of this forum, nightclubs are closing down and Generation Z is going outside less than ever. Oh, and Tinder continues to gain more FEMALE users.
EXACTLY. When less people make direct to person approaches then the person who does make direct to person approaches has an advantage. I've talked to many women over the years who stated they never heard in person pick up lines and want to be charmed. I was simply too much of a pussy at the time to take the hint.

I have never been a person to preach or support night game but day game seems to be a valuable candidate for future gaming.

Day game needs to evolve but I still feel like its the future for a select few.

I get it you're a pro at this and you have given me A LOT of knowledge. I still believe that tinder and such is getting oversaturated. You're right being a high value male is going to get you the pick of the litter but for most guys that isn't a choice. I'm not going to give up at becoming a high value male (for myself) and having my luck on tinder BUT I' still going to practice day game for the inevitable fall of "online dating:
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(12-08-2018 11:37 PM)Donfitz007 Wrote:  
(12-08-2018 08:49 PM)corsega Wrote:  Making a... comeback? What are you basing your ideas on exactly?

Because, outside of this forum, nightclubs are closing down and Generation Z is going outside less than ever. Oh, and Tinder continues to gain more FEMALE users.
EXACTLY. When less people make direct to person approaches then the person who does make direct to person approaches has an advantage. I've talked to many women over the years who stated they never heard in person pick up lines and want to be charmed. I was simply too much of a pussy at the time to take the hint.

I have never been a person to preach or support night game but day game seems to be a valuable candidate for future gaming.

Day game needs to evolve but I still feel like its the future for a select few.

I get it you're a pro at this and you have given me A LOT of knowledge. I still believe that tinder and such is getting oversaturated. You're right being a high value male is going to get you the pick of the litter but for most guys that isn't a choice. I'm not going to give up at becoming a high value male (for myself) and having my luck on tinder BUT I' still going to practice day game for the inevitable fall of "online dating:

If you want to use it to exploit a market niche, sure. I'm just not completely convinced that it will work. The less that in-person communication is valued, the more "weird" it becomes to some girls when you approach them in real life. Think about all the girls that walk outside looking at their phones with headphones on these days. And the many more girls that don't even leave the house.

I'm actually focusing mostly on daygame and nightgame myself these days. But only because I want to master the game. I still know that online is the future.

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(12-08-2018 11:45 PM)corsega Wrote:  If you want to use it to exploit a market niche, sure. I'm just not completely convinced that it will work. The less that in-person communication is valued, the more "weird" it becomes to some girls when you approach them in real life. Think about all the girls that walk outside looking at their phones with headphones on these days. And the many more girls that don't even leave the house.

I'm actually focusing mostly on daygame and nightgame myself these days. But only because I want to master the game. I still know that online is the future.
Exactly again, day game needs to evolve to be less weird. I've seen so many videos of guys talking to girls (both pros and newbies) and they have 0 charm. Basically relying on "game". Game works but without a personality, without the inner parts then you're just a weird robot.

Indirect game allows a little more charm followed with a genuine compliment (not just you're pretty etc) goes a long way.

And I'll admit i'm focusing on day game as well as a way to master game. You maybe right about the future but learning in-person game is a skill all us should learn.
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It does really seem like Tinder are cracking down on things regarding profile resets and multiple profiles.

Just did some fiddling with Tinder to try to reactivate one of my old female profiles. Managed to change my gender/name of one of my fake Facebook accounts, but because I used the same Google Voice number to verify, the profile got messed up and displayed my old name. It finally changed, but it won't let me swipe or update the photos. It gives a "Something went wrong, please try again later" error when swiping, and a "There was an error updating your profile, please try again" error when I try to save profile updates.

Tried again with another fake female account, used same Google Voice number, same issue.

Not sure if this was because I used that same number to verify with my actual male profile before, or if they've identified that number as being associated with multiple accounts and are punishing me for it.

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(12-09-2018 02:27 AM)corsega Wrote:  Not sure if this was because I used that same number to verify with my actual male profile before, or if they've identified that number as being associated with multiple accounts and are punishing me for it.
It's fact it's been used more than once, they're clamping down hard to make it harder to do account resets, you have to change your photos as well as if they link them, your profile is linked to an old one, same with Instagram and Spotify links.
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(12-09-2018 02:27 AM)corsega Wrote:  It does really seem like Tinder are cracking down on things regarding profile resets and multiple profiles.

Just did some fiddling with Tinder to try to reactivate one of my old female profiles. Managed to change my gender/name of one of my fake Facebook accounts, but because I used the same Google Voice number to verify, the profile got messed up and displayed my old name. It finally changed, but it won't let me swipe or update the photos. It gives a "Something went wrong, please try again later" error when swiping, and a "There was an error updating your profile, please try again" error when I try to save profile updates.

Tried again with another fake female account, used same Google Voice number, same issue.

Not sure if this was because I used that same number to verify with my actual male profile before, or if they've identified that number as being associated with multiple accounts and are punishing me for it.

I too messed up several times in a row while resetting.
Bought on my phone number/email plus version and when the matches stopped I decided to delete account and use friend 1 phone and burner mail to create new account. What happened is that I spent all my super likes and tinder automatically switched to plus version since it didn't yet expired.

Used phone number of friend 2 and new burner mail to repeat and practically the same thing happened, except this time I didn't spend super likes but I scrolled down in "diamond" section to see what does it offer and again it automatically activated plus version.

Now I have virtually dead profile that gets zero likes, as I am practically shadowbanned for the 3rd time in a row.
12-09-2018 07:47 AM
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RE: Tinder App
(12-08-2018 02:11 PM)Bikal Wrote:  
(12-08-2018 12:02 PM)PadawanScrub Wrote:  You had some serious congruence going on.
Yes, I know my target market and I aim for them. The profile also works well in Russia, keep it in English with a Russian addition to rope them in.
(12-08-2018 12:02 PM)PadawanScrub Wrote:  I might just dress like a typical NYC hipster and let my physique do the talking through the clothing.
If you do, ensure you keep it uniform across the board with what you're wearing and what you're doing.
(12-08-2018 12:02 PM)PadawanScrub Wrote:  The bio part confuses me, I know for sure you don't want to come off whiny or negative. It's supposed to be fun and upbeat without pandering and like you said. It should be succinct.
I put in my height, lame joke about said height, another lame joke about food and a one word complete lie. It worked well, keep in mind that it wasn't any longer than a full sentence but short and sweet with well shot photos makes it easier for them to swipe right as they get it all in one.
(12-08-2018 01:02 PM)BaatumMania Wrote:  https://www.reddit.com/r/Tinder/comments...ow_effort/

Now some people claim "they could had used a hotter guy" but this fake profile only a 7.4% match rate and only 8.5% of those matches sent him a message.
Actually I'd claim that the bio shouldn't have said "Not looking for anything serious" that's a red flag for girls, no matter how hot, they don't tend to see it positively. This plays into the bias of the OP, he's sought a result and got it.

I'd also question the validity of the sample due to it being based in Japan where I understand Tinder's used differently to the UK/US, the entire 'Data Analysis' is BS with extreme bias that proved nothing due to how unfavourably bias it is towards the OP's view.

You helped a lot, I've been looking at instagram guys with tons of followers. I'm not going to emulate their style because I have my own in mind but I think I'll mimic their poses and the locales they use to shoot photos. I will definitely take your advice and keep my outfits very uniformed across all pics just so it doesn't send any conflicting messages.

And I think I got an idea for a good bio that isn't too much for the average pea brain. I reset all my dating profiles on a monthly basis as I've been going through some physical changes over this past year. Went from chub chubs, to lean but sorta skinny, to relatively buff and slightly chubby, now I'm cutting down to reach relatively buff and lean. I should have my optimal look by around late February but I don't want to get rusty in the meantime so I'll give things another shot next week.
12-09-2018 08:11 AM
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RE: Tinder App
Just put up a new blog post about how to do a Tinder Self-Evaluation experiment: https://pancakemouse.wordpress.com/2018/...mpetition/

I'm always surprised at the number of guys who create a Tinder profile without surveying the competition first. Just like any other market, Tinder is a competitive endeavor. Your goal should be to make your profile stick out and get the type of girl you're going for to use one of her rare right swipes on you — how can you do that without knowing what other guys are offering?

One thing I recommend doing after you create your account is creating a fake female profile and swiping the first 50 guys in your location. Swipe right if you think the guy is more likely to get a right swipe than you, and swipe left if you think the guy is less likely to get a right swipe than you. At the end of your swipe session, count up the number of times you swiped left and divide by 50. This is your percentile rating in your area.

When you do this, put yourself in the shoes of the type of girl you're going for. What would she swipe right on? Remember that you're rating both the man's attractiveness and the quality of his profile. Take into account, in order:

Head (facial attractiveness + hair) - by far the most important
Body (physique + height)
Ethnicity
Quality of photos (resolution and actual quality)
Bio (including profession and school)

I have done this multiple times throughout my years using Tinder in various cities. I just repeated the experiment again this morning and, putting myself in the shoes of a girl of above-average attractiveness in San Francisco, I got the 42nd percentile (I felt that 21/50 guys were more likely to get a right swipe than me). This leads to two conclusions:

1. Competition on Tinder is increasing. In past experiments in San Francisco, I have been in the high 30s. I believe my worst percentile the last time I tried was the 40th percentile. Guys are getting better photos, and more attractive guys are signing up and remaining active on Tinder.

2. San Francisco continues to have an extremely high level of male competition. In other cities, I was in the 30-35 percentile range. Not only are there a lot of high-value men here, the level of technical knowledge is high, meaning men do more research into creating a great Tinder profile.

Just for fun, here were some of the profiles that I rated as better and worse than my own:

Better:

https://i.imgur.com/oevnDKp.png
https://i.imgur.com/ancrM26.png
https://i.imgur.com/kEh32LW.png
https://i.imgur.com/TwO46wF.png
https://i.imgur.com/ZSbJaMM.png
https://i.imgur.com/ueNOzNy.png
https://i.imgur.com/KJKaYUX.png
https://i.imgur.com/6hXzut3.png
https://i.imgur.com/gTaZVrb.png
https://i.imgur.com/KdZf1zV.png
https://i.imgur.com/z9jFosZ.png

Worse:

https://i.imgur.com/njvJbl4.png
https://i.imgur.com/FVVcRAI.png
https://i.imgur.com/Gg6igwl.png
https://i.imgur.com/e76nvpX.png
https://i.imgur.com/PrdiRy1.png
https://i.imgur.com/Mixl8lt.png
https://i.imgur.com/boxjRkg.png
https://i.imgur.com/O71s9tP.png
https://i.imgur.com/72Ptp9n.png
https://i.imgur.com/2B1Hy5y.png

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12-09-2018 10:15 AM
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RE: Tinder App
(12-09-2018 10:15 AM)corsega Wrote:  Just for fun, here were some of the profiles that I rated as better and worse than my own:

Better:
https://i.imgur.com/ZSbJaMM.png
https://i.imgur.com/ueNOzNy.png
https://i.imgur.com/KJKaYUX.png
https://i.imgur.com/6hXzut3.png
https://i.imgur.com/z9jFosZ.png
I don't know what your profile was like but I wouldn't rank these as very high at all with blurry, dark and poor posing for the photos, at least in my opinion but then I guess, we all have very different opinions, especially on this front.
12-09-2018 11:03 AM
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RE: Tinder App
Soon our entire existence will be judged on our social media profile (Tinder, Insta, Twitter, Linkedin etc..), which will all be merged into 1 profile..

Fuck this gay earth and everyone in it.
12-09-2018 01:05 PM
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RE: Tinder App
(12-09-2018 01:05 PM)Barney Wrote:  Soon our entire existence will be judged on our social media profile (Tinder, Insta, Twitter, Linkedin etc..), which will all be merged into 1 profile..

Fuck this gay earth and everyone in it.
Ye and bitching about it on the rooshvforum is gonna improve your shit life

Go back to MGTOW or any other incel forum if you want to complain about the game
12-09-2018 01:09 PM
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RE: Tinder App
(12-09-2018 11:03 AM)Bikal Wrote:  
(12-09-2018 10:15 AM)corsega Wrote:  Just for fun, here were some of the profiles that I rated as better and worse than my own:

Better:
https://i.imgur.com/ZSbJaMM.png
https://i.imgur.com/ueNOzNy.png
https://i.imgur.com/KJKaYUX.png
https://i.imgur.com/6hXzut3.png
https://i.imgur.com/z9jFosZ.png
I don't know what your profile was like but I wouldn't rank these as very high at all with blurry, dark and poor posing for the photos, at least in my opinion but then I guess, we all have very different opinions, especially on this front.

Yep, the profiles themselves are all worse than mine, but the guys themselves are more attractive, which more than makes up for it.

Good looks beat out a good profile in almost any scenario in terms of number of matches.

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12-09-2018 01:35 PM
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