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RE: Tinder App
(12-09-2018 01:35 PM)corsega Wrote:  
(12-09-2018 11:03 AM)Bikal Wrote:  
(12-09-2018 10:15 AM)corsega Wrote:  Just for fun, here were some of the profiles that I rated as better and worse than my own:

Better:
https://i.imgur.com/ZSbJaMM.png
https://i.imgur.com/ueNOzNy.png
https://i.imgur.com/KJKaYUX.png
https://i.imgur.com/6hXzut3.png
https://i.imgur.com/z9jFosZ.png
I don't know what your profile was like but I wouldn't rank these as very high at all with blurry, dark and poor posing for the photos, at least in my opinion but then I guess, we all have very different opinions, especially on this front.

Yep, the profiles themselves are all worse than mine, but the guys themselves are more attractive, which more than makes up for it.

Good looks beat out a good profile in almost any scenario in terms of number of matches.

I concur, over the summer I got beach lean and saw my response rate hike way up. Weekly meet ups. Another thing too is that the better looking you are, the more aggressive you can be about the SNL and the meetup. It's pretty much expected, as long as you don't overdo it.

I can't wait to drop some fat again now that I've gained more lean mass. There's so many elements to the puzzle and if you intentionally leave holes in your game. You only have yourself to blame.
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My bad for the double post
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RE: Tinder App
Tinder is far from broken. The thing about it is what are you willing to do for a chance at easy access to very attractive and willing women. That’s the whole appeal of tinder. I went to Miami recently and got a shit lotta of matches all within about a 5 mile radius of where I was staying and I have the screenshot to prove it. I’m a tall muscular and lean man. I have professional photos that brought out the best in me. I’ve been lifting weight and boxing a number of years but in the last three years decided I wanted to be leaner to bring out the bone structure in my face more. All this worked like a charm. The benefit of have a 99 percentile profile on tinder is you get quick easy and enthusiastic access to girls willing to have flings. That’s what we all want. Don’t expect this access if you aren’t at the top. Even being in the top relies you to navigate tinder careful as to avoid being under the aforementioned heap of trash. I went through a recent dates tinder and she the level of absolute senseless left swiping was shocking. The girl spent less than a second on each pic and didn’t read the bios of 99% of these men. I was one of three men she swiped right on.
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RE: Tinder App
(Yesterday 01:35 PM)quaker13 Wrote:  Tinder is far from broken.

"Tinder is broken and dead!"
- low-value guys in this thread

"Tinder is just fine!"
- high value guys in this thread

Seeing a pattern, anyone? 6-year old thread and we're still talking in circles.

It's not the algorithm. It's your value.

(12-08-2018 12:23 PM)Delta Wrote:  Given that belief, help me explain this:

I'm tall, a lifelong weightlifter, and lean enough to have visible abs. The photos I put up aren't shitty selfies, they show me out in cool places. Every pic I use on dating apps scores at least top 20% attractiveness on photofeeler. Some are top 10%. I'm very professionally successful. I'm game-aware enough to keep my bios and conversations light and positive.

I quit using Tinder because it felt like a massive waste of time, but I'm on every other popular dating platform. I rarely get a match on Bumble. In general, 99% of the matches I get on dating apps either turn out to be SIFs when I look more closely, or if they're actually cute, put zero effort into the conversation (if they respond at all). Across all dating platforms, I meet a worthwhile girl about once every few months on average.

So does that constitute "success," or am I just incredibly low-value?

Hopefully Delta will be OK with me revealing this, but we've been PMing. I took a look at his profile, he is a high value guy who has high standards. I gave him a couple profile and "brand" tips that I think will improve his success even more.

There are no anomalies. Tinder is a magnifying glass for your real-life value. You just have to focus the lens.

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RE: Tinder App
(Yesterday 04:12 PM)corsega Wrote:  
(Yesterday 01:35 PM)quaker13 Wrote:  Tinder is far from broken.

"Tinder is broken and dead!"
- low-value guys in this thread

"Tinder is just fine!"
- high value guys in this thread

Seeing a pattern, anyone? 6-year old thread and we're still talking in circles.

It's not the algorithm. It's your value.

So, if you aren't killing it in Tinder, you are not high value man.

Mmm... Ok.
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RE: Tinder App
(Yesterday 04:28 PM)Zoso Wrote:  
(Yesterday 04:12 PM)corsega Wrote:  
(Yesterday 01:35 PM)quaker13 Wrote:  Tinder is far from broken.

"Tinder is broken and dead!"
- low-value guys in this thread

"Tinder is just fine!"
- high value guys in this thread

Seeing a pattern, anyone? 6-year old thread and we're still talking in circles.

It's not the algorithm. It's your value.

So, if you aren't killing it in Tinder, you are not high value man.

Mmm... Ok.

If that's what you got out of my post, I suggest you take a break from the internet for a couple weeks and learn how to interpret shades of grey.

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(Yesterday 04:39 PM)corsega Wrote:  If that's what you got out of my post, I suggest you take a break from the internet for a couple weeks and learn how to interpret shades of grey.

Thanks for the suggestion, but I don't think it's the case. I disagree with your last statement only.

I actually think that the spectrum of grays is wide. That's why I disagree.
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The point of Corsega’s post wasn’t Quite that absolute. For fuck sake Elon Musk and Mark Zuck are high value nerds and I assure you they would give millions to get the kind of affection I get from women of smv with zero financial investment. Corsega has been saying for several pages now that you need to hone in on the aspects of your profile that might be causing the problem. It’s not a slight to anybody. Listen, if posted selfies no fucking way would I be getting the matches I’m getting. No way. Maybe in 2015 but not in 2018/19. Accept the game and adapt. You don’t like it, day night or social circle your way into pussy. Tinder is appealing because of the potential for lightening fast lays if you’re high value enough. Fuck, if any dude who’s an objective 5 could get laid by an 8 by a quick swipe they would. Nothing in life is ever that easy
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RE: Tinder App
(Yesterday 04:12 PM)corsega Wrote:  
(Yesterday 01:35 PM)quaker13 Wrote:  Tinder is far from broken.

"Tinder is broken and dead!"
- low-value guys in this thread

"Tinder is just fine!"
- high value guys in this thread

Seeing a pattern, anyone? 6-year old thread and we're still talking in circles.

It's not the algorithm. It's your value.


There is a small other dimension. Niche. Some people may do very well if they have a consistent niche profile. Get a dog and a few decent photos with it and tell me ur matches don't skyrocket.

Most of my dates from tinder came from people that initially liked something particular about my profile (usually all the travel/adventure pics). While thats an overused/boring niche, Those are the best pics I currently have.
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I have just have super generic modeling pics taken with a somewhat interesting background. No travel no dogs. Just physique and style, guess that’s my niche
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(Yesterday 05:08 PM)quaker13 Wrote:  The point of Corsega’s post wasn’t Quite that absolute. For fuck sake Elon Musk and Mark Zuck are high value nerds and I assure you they would give millions to get the kind of affection I get from women of smv with zero financial investment. Corsega has been saying for several pages now that you need to hone in on the aspects of your profile that might be causing the problem. It’s not a slight to anybody. Listen, if posted selfies no fucking way would I be getting the matches I’m getting. No way. Maybe in 2015 but not in 2018/19. Accept the game and adapt. You don’t like it, day night or social circle your way into pussy. Tinder is appealing because of the potential for lightening fast lays if you’re high value enough. Fuck, if any dude who’s an objective 5 could get laid by an 8 by a quick swipe they would. Nothing in life is ever that easy
I actually don't disagree with this.
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(12-08-2018 11:10 AM)Bikal Wrote:  When I was on Tinder, I had a portrait of my face, literally just my face followed by photos of me with my dogs, hunting, and social settings (beach and upscale bar, surrounded by women). I had a uniform clothing style (Country/Preppy)
I was thinking about my old comment earlier, the above profile has worked well in key UK areas, parts of Europe and Russia but if I were to head out to Australia (example), a women's playground full of jacked dudes with objectively higher SMV than myself, I'd struggle Undecided

With that in mind, I should be amending my profile, there's no question about that, however do I aim for a similar profile to the locals or keep the above format but change clothing style to match my preferred demographics of the locale I'm visiting?
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(Yesterday 05:24 PM)Zoso Wrote:  
(Yesterday 05:08 PM)quaker13 Wrote:  The point of Corsega’s post wasn’t Quite that absolute. For fuck sake Elon Musk and Mark Zuck are high value nerds and I assure you they would give millions to get the kind of affection I get from women of smv with zero financial investment. Corsega has been saying for several pages now that you need to hone in on the aspects of your profile that might be causing the problem. It’s not a slight to anybody. Listen, if posted selfies no fucking way would I be getting the matches I’m getting. No way. Maybe in 2015 but not in 2018/19. Accept the game and adapt. You don’t like it, day night or social circle your way into pussy. Tinder is appealing because of the potential for lightening fast lays if you’re high value enough. Fuck, if any dude who’s an objective 5 could get laid by an 8 by a quick swipe they would. Nothing in life is ever that easy
I actually don't disagree with this.

Then what do you disagree with, exactly?

The steps are very clear.
1) Be high value (the MOST important)
2) Maximize your profile (focus that lens)

If you did 2) and "muh algorithm" and "tinder is dead", go back to 1).

If you're pretty sure you're 1), and you're getting shit results, go to 2).

If you feel you're doing both, and you're not getting the results you want, send your profile to someone more experienced so they can critique and see what you're missing.

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