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I was chatting with a girl I know yesterday, she’s a hard 6. She said nearly all the girls can fuck any man on dating apps, even the most attractive guys. She said some of these girls wouldn’t have a chance in real life but online they can hookup with any man, it’s just a matter of how horny he is.
Then she added that because they can get them all they keep increasing their standards.

Basically it’s not just female hypergamy but also male « hypogamy » that are in cause, men have low standards.
12-13-2018 07:21 AM
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(12-13-2018 07:21 AM)Lino Wrote:  I was chatting with a girl I know yesterday, she’s a hard 6. She said nearly all the girls can fuck any man on dating apps, even the most attractive guys. She said some of these girls wouldn’t have a chance in real life but online they can hookup with any man, it’s just a matter of how horny he is.
Then she added that because they can get them all they keep increasing their standards.

Basically it’s not just female hypergamy but also male « hypogamy » that are in cause, men have low standards.

A girl said that? Pretty insightful of her. But yes, this is how online dating and social media has transformed (and ruined) traditional relationships.
12-13-2018 08:19 AM
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(12-13-2018 07:21 AM)Lino Wrote:  I was chatting with a girl I know yesterday, she’s a hard 6. She said nearly all the girls can fuck any man on dating apps, even the most attractive guys. She said some of these girls wouldn’t have a chance in real life but online they can hookup with any man, it’s just a matter of how horny he is.
Then she added that because they can get them all they keep increasing their standards.

Basically it’s not just female hypergamy but also male « hypogamy » that are in cause, men have low standards.

This is true for sure.

Guys, stop slinging dick to these 5s and inflating their egos just because you're thirsty.

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12-13-2018 08:40 AM
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(12-13-2018 07:21 AM)Lino Wrote:  male « hypogamy » that are in cause, men have low standards.
Have you really only now just learned this? This has been known for years, I was out of the game (solid LTR) for Tinder's take off and peak but even I figured pretty quickly that it's full of dudes swipe right on anything with a pulse.
12-13-2018 10:11 AM
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(12-13-2018 10:11 AM)Bikal Wrote:  
(12-13-2018 07:21 AM)Lino Wrote:  male « hypogamy » that are in cause, men have low standards.
Have you really only now just learned this? This has been known for years, I was out of the game (solid LTR) for Tinder's take off and peak but even I figured pretty quickly that it's full of dudes swipe right on anything with a pulse.

The point here is that this comment came from a girl. I think good girls looking for an LTR are impacted by this as well.
12-13-2018 10:26 AM
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(12-11-2018 02:32 PM)corsega Wrote:  1. wearing a blue oxford collar button down and chinos, standing in an industrial area with graffiti in the background, looking away from the camera, kind of scowling
2. suited up, looking away from the camera with a cheeky smile, this was taken under a highway overpass but it's zoomed in enough where you can't tell, looks like it could be a candid from a wedding
3. Inside, shirtless, one overhead light, two rim lights (desk lamps from ikea) coming at me from behind to accentuate my physique. Wearing a baseball cap, one hand on the cap, looking directly at the camera with a dominant expression and hunter eyes (squinch). I cut down to ~10% bodyfat for this photo. I look HUGE even though I was like 168 pounds at 5'8".

Did you take pictures with remote control or a friend did it, did you use tripod?
12-13-2018 10:55 AM
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(12-13-2018 10:26 AM)Lino Wrote:  The point here is that this comment came from a girl. I think good girls looking for an LTR are impacted by this as well.
Girls talk about this all the time amongst themselves, they all comment on the 'thirst' that Guy A has or the 'lack of imagination' Guy B has which leads to them being turned off, the only girls that respond to unimaginative, thirsty guys are land whales, the attractive ones 7+ (actual 7+s not 4s masquerading as 7+s) only respond to that nonsense when the guy is an actual 8+.

I wonder how many guys actually have female friends that they talk to about this with, it gives for interesting insights as unsurprisingly, the majority of guys (who actually open, a lot don't) use the same opening or variation thereof which is unappealing. Even worse are the guys who wait 24hrs before messaging, even if they're the ones to swipe and match (presuming girl has swiped right a while ago).

If you match, you've probably done 90-95% of the work, open with a solid line that gets them into date mode ASAP or at least off the app and that's easily achievable if you're direct enough but still humorous and relatable.
12-13-2018 12:05 PM
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I have taken girls phones and read to see what they get . It's a " Hi" all the way down . If you're opening with anything other than "Hi" "Hello" " "How are you " you stand out
12-13-2018 12:20 PM
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(12-13-2018 10:55 AM)sterling_archer Wrote:  
(12-11-2018 02:32 PM)corsega Wrote:  1. wearing a blue oxford collar button down and chinos, standing in an industrial area with graffiti in the background, looking away from the camera, kind of scowling
2. suited up, looking away from the camera with a cheeky smile, this was taken under a highway overpass but it's zoomed in enough where you can't tell, looks like it could be a candid from a wedding
3. Inside, shirtless, one overhead light, two rim lights (desk lamps from ikea) coming at me from behind to accentuate my physique. Wearing a baseball cap, one hand on the cap, looking directly at the camera with a dominant expression and hunter eyes (squinch). I cut down to ~10% bodyfat for this photo. I look HUGE even though I was like 168 pounds at 5'8".

Did you take pictures with remote control or a friend did it, did you use tripod?

$15 tripod and cheap DSLR remote.

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(12-13-2018 05:35 AM)user5e8s Wrote:  
(12-12-2018 01:59 AM)corsega Wrote:  
(12-12-2018 01:46 AM)user5e8s Wrote:  Been trying tinder and getting nowhere. Got like 2 matches out of maybe 700+ swipes (Bear in mind I have always been told I am good looking and I used to 'ok' pulling same night lays before the 'dark ages' of game set in these pasts several years with the stranglehold social media has on society). One was nice personality but tomboy/dyke looking so wasn't attracted. The other was attractive but I got rejected after we moved to text after a couple of texts cos I must not have done 100% perfect game.

Seems tinder is another 'urban legend' as to being the goto for easy pussy. I read a few places that all the easy girls have left the clubs in favor of tinder but that theory seems to be complete bullshit. I cannot seem to find that demographic of girls anywhere now. They seem to have gone extinct in the past 5 years.

If you are good looking and only getting 2 matches out of 700 swipes, something is likely wrong with your profile. Read my guide: https://pancakemouse.wordpress.com/2017/...nvestment/

If that doesn't help, PM your profile to someone here to get advice.

The thing is I also tried using a supposed 'super optimized' picture from the 'cocporn' guy from nextasf who has written a whole online game treatise and claimed he got 20-40 swipe return rate and still got 0 matches.

Only thing left to try is using a picture of zyzz Confused not that that will give any practically useful data.

This one? There's no way you got zero matches with that, you must have been doing something wrong.

(12-13-2018 07:06 AM)Jozi Wrote:  Would you guys say a great physique is the most important thing on Tinder?

I am not in great shape. Kind of skinny fat. Not terrible physique, but definitely not a bodybuilder. Not a whole lot of defined muscle mass. So I have one full body picture with clothes on were I look to be in OK shape (slim and not fat), the rest are face or upper body pictures. I also have two images with very attractive females in them. One with an Instagram model (1m+ followers) in lingerie, and me shirtless showing off tattoos (tattoos cover basically my whole chest and stomach). Then another one with 3 sexy chicks in lingerie on top of me basically while I am on my phone handling business.

All my photos (except the girl photos) have 8.5-9.6 on photofeeler (top 20% the worst, top 5% the best).

I am still struggling to get matches. I get a lot of likes from 5's and 6's, and every once in a while I get a 7 or above. But I will swipe 100 girls and match with no more than 3-4 of them (I don't swipe right on the 6's).

Is this good stats or am I just missing the physique? I am tall as well (6'3) but I'm not sure you could tell that from the pictures.

Oh, I am bald too. Maybe that's what's killing me? The pics are still in the 5th to 20th percentile though and I think I rock the bald look pretty well.

Baldness will kill your match rate. It's a polarizing look. Girls that aren't into it will never be into it. But there are plenty of girls that don't care, and even a few that really love it (I've found that these tend to be the types with bald dads/brothers). If you are bald it's even more important to be jacked. Get in the gym immediately and start adding mass.

(3-4 matches out of 100 girls swiping on 7s and above is a very good rate, by the way. You should look at what some other guys in this thread are getting. Much lower than that. It also blows me out of the water. I get about 1 match out of every 200 swipes, swiping right on 6.5 and above).

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Read of a guy today who got no matches in western country then changed location to eastern europe country and started getting matches from hot girls.
12-13-2018 05:27 PM
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I recently banged a Laotian 6 in Thailand, whom I had matched with on tinder a few weeks before my trip and subsequently communicated with on Instagram. I had noticed that she unmatched me before we met and then reappeared on tinder a few weeks later whilst I was swiping again in Thailand (while we were sharing a room).

I mentioned this to her and she said that she hadn't unmatched me, but had rather deleted her tinder and reactivated it in the past week or so (and of course also claimed that she wasn't using it whilst she was with me). We showed each other our respective accounts out of curiosity. I had about 200 matches (from Thailand of course, not Australia!) and 99+ likes, which had accrued in a time period of about 2 months (I had also been fairly selective and had unmatched quite a few). She had tinder gold, which stated that she had 2000+ right swipes.

That's right, 2000+ right swipes in only a few weeks, for a 6 who lives in Vientiane (but admittedly travels to Bangkok fairly frequently, where most of her foreigner matches probably reside).


Many of these 2000+ profiles were attractive Caucasians (way more attractive than me). Not only that, but she claimed that they frequently offer her gifts and free accommodation. One young Caucasian even travelled to Vientiane just to meet her (she no longer responds to his messages, because of 'bad sex').

The only reason she had responded to me, apparently, was because I looked like her favourite singer and had opened her in French.

A small anecdotal insight into the state of the SMP on tinder, even in supposed pussy paradises.
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Corsega

Is it possible to escape shadowbanning by using better pictures? It is obvious I have been shadowbanned since I used my phone number for the second or even third reset and I am getting literally no attention whereas with first time using number, I did. Unfortunately I messed up with using friends numbers, since I accidentally let myself be connected with google play account where I had subscription to Plus version (long story) so even profiles on their numbers went to waste, but before they did, I actually got matches. Proof that my number is definitely shadowbanned.
12-14-2018 12:29 AM
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I haven't been shadowbanned and I've reset multiple times with the same number. Not sure what you did, but changing your photos is not magically going to make it better.

I would try a different number if you can.

P.S. most of the time when guys think they are shadowbanned, they're just being paranoid and nothing actually happened

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Really? That is good ti hear and yeah, I admit I was a bit paranoid at times because I read that blog which was linked in this thread a couple of times. I will just delete profile and come back when I have better photos.
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(12-13-2018 07:21 AM)Lino Wrote:  I was chatting with a girl I know yesterday, she’s a hard 6. She said nearly all the girls can fuck any man on dating apps, even the most attractive guys. She said some of these girls wouldn’t have a chance in real life but online they can hookup with any man, it’s just a matter of how horny he is.
Then she added that because they can get them all they keep increasing their standards.

Basically it’s not just female hypergamy but also male « hypogamy » that are in cause, men have low standards.

Got into a tinder conversation with the Italian girl, Italian from northern Italy, I hung out with this weekend and her tinder philosophy is beyond unforgiving. The bitch easily went through 2-3 pictures a second. She swiped left on facially attractive and men with nice physiques. Why, because their profile didn't have enough pop. I confronted her about it and she said she only swiped right on the profiles that immediately grabbed her attention. The bitch lives in miami and there are no shortage of attractive men down there and i was only one 3-4 dudes she had matched with. Her last date before me was in late October. I won't post her pic in this thread but you can find her on the last page of the moma and rudebwoy thread
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(12-14-2018 09:28 AM)quaker13 Wrote:  
(12-13-2018 07:21 AM)Lino Wrote:  I was chatting with a girl I know yesterday, she’s a hard 6. She said nearly all the girls can fuck any man on dating apps, even the most attractive guys. She said some of these girls wouldn’t have a chance in real life but online they can hookup with any man, it’s just a matter of how horny he is.
Then she added that because they can get them all they keep increasing their standards.

Basically it’s not just female hypergamy but also male « hypogamy » that are in cause, men have low standards.

Got into a tinder conversation with the Italian girl, Italian from northern Italy, I hung out with this weekend and her tinder philosophy is beyond unforgiving. The bitch easily went through 2-3 pictures a second. She swiped left on facially attractive and men with nice physiques. Why, because their profile didn't have enough pop. I confronted her about it and she said she only swiped right on the profiles that immediately grabbed her attention. The bitch lives in miami and there are no shortage of attractive men down there and i was only one 3-4 dudes she had matched with. Her last date before me was in late October. I won't post her pic in this thread but you can find her on the last page of the moma and rudebwoy thread

And yet you guys keep using these fucking dating apps. You guys should keep track of how much time you spend on Tinder in a week. Instead you should use that time on your social circle, self improvement, and approaches.

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(12-14-2018 10:09 AM)spydersuit Wrote:  
(12-14-2018 09:28 AM)quaker13 Wrote:  
(12-13-2018 07:21 AM)Lino Wrote:  I was chatting with a girl I know yesterday, she’s a hard 6. She said nearly all the girls can fuck any man on dating apps, even the most attractive guys. She said some of these girls wouldn’t have a chance in real life but online they can hookup with any man, it’s just a matter of how horny he is.
Then she added that because they can get them all they keep increasing their standards.

Basically it’s not just female hypergamy but also male « hypogamy » that are in cause, men have low standards.

Got into a tinder conversation with the Italian girl, Italian from northern Italy, I hung out with this weekend and her tinder philosophy is beyond unforgiving. The bitch easily went through 2-3 pictures a second. She swiped left on facially attractive and men with nice physiques. Why, because their profile didn't have enough pop. I confronted her about it and she said she only swiped right on the profiles that immediately grabbed her attention. The bitch lives in miami and there are no shortage of attractive men down there and i was only one 3-4 dudes she had matched with. Her last date before me was in late October. I won't post her pic in this thread but you can find her on the last page of the moma and rudebwoy thread

And yet you guys keep using these fucking dating apps. You guys should keep track of how much time you spend on Tinder in a week. Instead you should use that time on your social circle, self improvement, and approaches.

Facepalm

Oh, I can tell you.

I use the free plan. I get maximum 1260 swipes a week (90 every 12 hours).

I swipe on 1-2 profiles per second. I've used Tinder for so long I can immediately tell what I like and what I don't. I also use http://www.tind3r.com to preview my match queue for faster swiping. I spent 2-3 minutes a day swiping.

I get the number within 6-10 back and forths. Total time spent messaging on Tinder a day, maybe 5 minutes.

Yeah, you're right, maybe I should put those extremely valuable 8 minutes a day to better use tard

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(12-14-2018 10:27 AM)corsega Wrote:  I get the number within 6-10 back and forths. Total time spent messaging on Tinder a day, maybe 5 minutes.

Yeah, you're right, maybe I should put those extremely valuable 8 minutes a day to better use tard

I don't like online dating and the effect it has had on society.

But, if you can't beat them join them. If I'm gonna live in this shit, I'm gonna take advantage of this online pussy service.

Once you get a hang of the required approach to move girls off the app and set up a date, it doesn't require much effort.

Swipe on the toilet or while you're bored doing something mindless, I definitely don't swipe more than 5-10 minutes a day.

Put maybe 10 minutes of total effort into each conversation that I have (at the absolute maximum) with the girls that I can tell are interested.

Low investment with high return if you ask me.

It makes sense to me to invest in a quality profile and putting in the work to learn tinder game, so later on down the road you have an effective avenue to pipeline pussy.

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(12-14-2018 10:09 AM)spydersuit Wrote:  
(12-14-2018 09:28 AM)quaker13 Wrote:  
(12-13-2018 07:21 AM)Lino Wrote:  I was chatting with a girl I know yesterday, she’s a hard 6. She said nearly all the girls can fuck any man on dating apps, even the most attractive guys. She said some of these girls wouldn’t have a chance in real life but online they can hookup with any man, it’s just a matter of how horny he is.
Then she added that because they can get them all they keep increasing their standards.

Basically it’s not just female hypergamy but also male « hypogamy » that are in cause, men have low standards.

Got into a tinder conversation with the Italian girl, Italian from northern Italy, I hung out with this weekend and her tinder philosophy is beyond unforgiving. The bitch easily went through 2-3 pictures a second. She swiped left on facially attractive and men with nice physiques. Why, because their profile didn't have enough pop. I confronted her about it and she said she only swiped right on the profiles that immediately grabbed her attention. The bitch lives in miami and there are no shortage of attractive men down there and i was only one 3-4 dudes she had matched with. Her last date before me was in late October. I won't post her pic in this thread but you can find her on the last page of the moma and rudebwoy thread

And yet you guys keep using these fucking dating apps. You guys should keep track of how much time you spend on Tinder in a week. Instead you should use that time on your social circle, self improvement, and approaches.

Facepalm

That's the thing man, it's not work if your profile is honed in. Its like shooting fish in a fucking barrel
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(12-14-2018 09:28 AM)quaker13 Wrote:  Got into a tinder conversation with the Italian girl, Italian from northern Italy, I hung out with this weekend and her tinder philosophy is beyond unforgiving. The bitch easily went through 2-3 pictures a second. She swiped left on facially attractive and men with nice physiques. Why, because their profile didn't have enough pop. I confronted her about it and she said she only swiped right on the profiles that immediately grabbed her attention. The bitch lives in miami and there are no shortage of attractive men down there and i was only one 3-4 dudes she had matched with. Her last date before me was in late October. I won't post her pic in this thread but you can find her on the last page of the moma and rudebwoy thread

This has been proven statistically as well. To make your pics pop, increase the contrast on them.
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By the way, one strategy to combat the inevitable hypogamy that you'll have to endure on Tinder is to photoshop your pics to give yourself another 1-2 points on your SMV. Add some muscle tone, improve your jawline, fill in bald spots on your hair etc. Then when you actually meet up with a match, you'll be somewhat of the same SMV. I get a lot of "oh you look different" (I take that as "you don't look as good as in your pictures"), but I still end up with the bang 9 times out of 10.
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(12-14-2018 10:27 AM)corsega Wrote:  
(12-14-2018 10:09 AM)spydersuit Wrote:  
(12-14-2018 09:28 AM)quaker13 Wrote:  
(12-13-2018 07:21 AM)Lino Wrote:  I was chatting with a girl I know yesterday, she’s a hard 6. She said nearly all the girls can fuck any man on dating apps, even the most attractive guys. She said some of these girls wouldn’t have a chance in real life but online they can hookup with any man, it’s just a matter of how horny he is.
Then she added that because they can get them all they keep increasing their standards.

Basically it’s not just female hypergamy but also male « hypogamy » that are in cause, men have low standards.

Got into a tinder conversation with the Italian girl, Italian from northern Italy, I hung out with this weekend and her tinder philosophy is beyond unforgiving. The bitch easily went through 2-3 pictures a second. She swiped left on facially attractive and men with nice physiques. Why, because their profile didn't have enough pop. I confronted her about it and she said she only swiped right on the profiles that immediately grabbed her attention. The bitch lives in miami and there are no shortage of attractive men down there and i was only one 3-4 dudes she had matched with. Her last date before me was in late October. I won't post her pic in this thread but you can find her on the last page of the moma and rudebwoy thread

And yet you guys keep using these fucking dating apps. You guys should keep track of how much time you spend on Tinder in a week. Instead you should use that time on your social circle, self improvement, and approaches.

Facepalm

Oh, I can tell you.

I use the free plan. I get maximum 1260 swipes a week (90 every 12 hours).

I swipe on 1-2 profiles per second. I've used Tinder for so long I can immediately tell what I like and what I don't. I also use http://www.tind3r.com to preview my match queue for faster swiping. I spent 2-3 minutes a day swiping.

I get the number within 6-10 back and forths. Total time spent messaging on Tinder a day, maybe 5 minutes.

Yeah, you're right, maybe I should put those extremely valuable 8 minutes a day to better use tard

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Great. How many of these tinder women are you fucking on the first night when you meet them? How much time did it take to make the ***ultimate*** tinder profile?
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RE: Tinder App
(12-14-2018 03:48 PM)Jozi Wrote:  By the way, one strategy to combat the inevitable hypogamy that you'll have to endure on Tinder is to photoshop your pics to give yourself another 1-2 points on your SMV. Add some muscle tone, improve your jawline, fill in bald spots on your hair etc. Then when you actually meet up with a match, you'll be somewhat of the same SMV. I get a lot of "oh you look different" (I take that as "you don't look as good as in your pictures"), but I still end up with the bang 9 times out of 10.

Laugh2

You are acting like a THOT.
12-14-2018 07:10 PM
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RE: Tinder App
(12-14-2018 07:10 PM)spydersuit Wrote:  Laugh2

You are acting like a THOT.

THOT game is the way to win in the current year, bro.
12-14-2018 08:49 PM
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