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(12-21-2018 10:13 AM)yang2287 Wrote:  
(12-21-2018 09:40 AM)corsega Wrote:  P.S. No one in this thread should be buying Gold. It's a complete waste of money. What you want is Plus.


Just a question,Is it not better to use gold to see profiles who like yours before you accept the match rather than with only Plus you can lose matches?

I make this observation since Tinder does not put all girls who like you directly on the first queue, they make you swipe a bit before you get to the profile.

You're not going to lose matches. All the girls that liked you eventually show up in your stack.

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tinder gold is a waste of money, because you should only be swiping on girls you are attracted to in the first place. who cares if you can see about of fat pigs that liked you?

Corsega do you think there's any benefit to Gold?
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(12-21-2018 12:11 PM)quaker13 Wrote:  tinder gold is a waste of money, because you should only be swiping on girls you are attracted to in the first place. who cares if you can see about of fat pigs that liked you?

Corsega do you think there's any benefit to Gold?

Pretty much.

All the girls you match with in your radius will show up to you eventually, with plus you can just swipe through them.

All gold will do for you is show you ugly girls you will swipe left on, and girls super far away from you that are swiping right on you.

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Well Td Gold saves you time I guess. Sometimes you gotta swipe a dozen of profiles to get that good match
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(12-21-2018 04:53 PM)LatinaLova Wrote:  Well Td Gold saves you time I guess. Sometimes you gotta swipe a dozen of profiles to get that good match

A dozen?! Heavens! At my swipe rate of two profiles/second, Gold would save me a whopping six seconds!

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I did another test, bought tinder + and swiped in a country where I usually have 50+ matches in 24h, this time I had around 15 matches in a week.

With the passport feature girls see your real distance, you can hide it as well but then they suspect you are far.
Another difference is that the previous time many chicks (can’t tell the exact proportion) engaged the conversation, this time most of them didn’t engage. I am guessing tinder there became more massive and these chicks have now more options or they simply know the passport feature and know When the guy is actually far.
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(12-20-2018 04:17 AM)weallbang5s Wrote:  
(12-15-2018 08:39 AM)Lino Wrote:  I am seeing the same profiles 3 or 4 times the same day, wtf is that??

Lino, I would suggest never using Tinder again. I remember you were banned by Tinder and chased by Police in London for extreme behavior towards a poor Eastern European girl. Tinder is not for you. Don't play with fire, mate and try day game for better results.

Oh the little bitch is back? This forum is for masculine men and solidarity between men.
You provoked me a few days ago, I didn’t respond so you created a sockpuppet account to post irrelevant insults and that account got banned. You also created another sockpuppet account to rep yourself and that account got banned too.

Was that « poor eastern european girl» your mommy? Do you think you’ll embarass me by regularly bringing up something I wrote a long time ago? Yes I texted a gold digger that she deserves to be slapped, and yes one of her female friends was a cop and she gave me a call.
You seem to be obsessed with me, get out of the closet little fag.
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(12-20-2018 06:30 PM)Super Average Man Wrote:  Crosspost with the Kampala thread:

As I've mentioned before my profile is basically dead, so all I'm doing lately is using the passport feature to explore random places (especially exotic places) and check the talent out. One thing I noticed is that in some African countries there are *a lot* of profiles of cute Scandinavian girls.

At first I thought these might be bots, but as it turns out, not all the profiles mention IG. All of them just have regular, real-looking profile descriptions in Swedish. The ones that mention IG refer to normal-looking profiles. And none of them ever match, so it doesn't look like they're spamming anything.

Does anyone know what's the story behind those profiles? If you want to check them out for yourself, go to Serekunda, Gambia. Every other profile will be a cute Swedish girl, it's kind of ridiculous.
These profiles of white chicks might be legit. I remember seeing a documentary about sexual tourism in Gambia, many white women were heading there for black gigolos.

https://youtu.be/xcDhK1SXcRk
It’s in french but You’ll see middle aged and old white women with young well built black dudes so you’ll get what’s it’s about ?

They showed old chicks but there must be young girls as well.
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(12-22-2018 03:01 AM)Lino Wrote:  
(12-20-2018 04:17 AM)weallbang5s Wrote:  
(12-15-2018 08:39 AM)Lino Wrote:  I am seeing the same profiles 3 or 4 times the same day, wtf is that??

Lino, I would suggest never using Tinder again. I remember you were banned by Tinder and chased by Police in London for extreme behavior towards a poor Eastern European girl. Tinder is not for you. Don't play with fire, mate and try day game for better results.

Yes I texted a gold digger that she deserves to be slapped, and yes one of her female friends was a cop and she gave me a call.
You seem to be obsessed with me, get out of the closet little fag.

Would you slap a random girl you chatted on the internet and never met in real life, just because she rejected your creepy sexual advances? Who you really are, Lino? You said you live in Paris, but are not French. Are you that guy?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-VcErKk6Qs
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(12-22-2018 11:25 AM)weallbang5s Wrote:  
(12-22-2018 03:01 AM)Lino Wrote:  
(12-20-2018 04:17 AM)weallbang5s Wrote:  
(12-15-2018 08:39 AM)Lino Wrote:  I am seeing the same profiles 3 or 4 times the same day, wtf is that??

Lino, I would suggest never using Tinder again. I remember you were banned by Tinder and chased by Police in London for extreme behavior towards a poor Eastern European girl. Tinder is not for you. Don't play with fire, mate and try day game for better results.

Yes I texted a gold digger that she deserves to be slapped, and yes one of her female friends was a cop and she gave me a call.
You seem to be obsessed with me, get out of the closet little fag.

Would you slap a random girl you chatted on the internet and never met in real life, just because she rejected your creepy sexual advances? Who you really are, Lino? You said you live in Paris, but are not French. Are you that guy?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-VcErKk6Qs
Rejected my Creepy sexual advances? Lol, you have such a sneaky feminine way of attacking people. I won’t feed your troll anymore.

Ps: yes that guy is me, I didn’t know I was being filmed.
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(12-22-2018 11:25 AM)weallbang5s Wrote:  
(12-22-2018 03:01 AM)Lino Wrote:  
(12-20-2018 04:17 AM)weallbang5s Wrote:  
(12-15-2018 08:39 AM)Lino Wrote:  I am seeing the same profiles 3 or 4 times the same day, wtf is that??

Lino, I would suggest never using Tinder again. I remember you were banned by Tinder and chased by Police in London for extreme behavior towards a poor Eastern European girl. Tinder is not for you. Don't play with fire, mate and try day game for better results.

Yes I texted a gold digger that she deserves to be slapped, and yes one of her female friends was a cop and she gave me a call.
You seem to be obsessed with me, get out of the closet little fag.

Would you slap a random girl you chatted on the internet and never met in real life, just because she rejected your creepy sexual advances? Who you really are, Lino? You said you live in Paris, but are not French. Are you that guy?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-VcErKk6Qs
Rejected my Creepy sexual advances? Lol, you have such a sneaky feminine way of attacking people. I won’t feed your troll anymore.

Ps: yes that guy is me, I didn’t know I was being filmed.
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I'm currently not in NYC or Miami and decided to check out Tinder in the medium sized American city that I am in...my goodness...its awful!

Women from sleeping around and drinking too much alcohol look older than their age (some cases 10-15 years older) in pics. A lot of them have crazy eyes.

One word: yuck!

Its almost better to subscribe to Tinder Plus and swipe/match/chat with foreign women -- when there is a 0% chance you will meet them compared to the American whales that I am seeing right now.
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Disclaimer: Don't care about this, but thought I'd share

Today when using Tinder on two separate occassions today in NYC, I noticed something:

My feed in the afternoon was filled with beasts - lots of left swipes

My feed in the evening was filled with so many right swipes.

Any thoughts on this?
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(12-22-2018 10:48 PM)MaceTyrell Wrote:  Disclaimer: Don't care about this, but thought I'd share

Today when using Tinder on two separate occassions today in NYC, I noticed something:

My feed in the afternoon was filled with beasts - lots of left swipes

My feed in the evening was filled with so many right swipes.

Any thoughts on this?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clustering_illusion

The clustering illusion is the tendency to erroneously consider the inevitable "streaks" or "clusters" arising in small samples from random distributions to be non-random. The illusion is caused by a human tendency to underpredict the amount of variability likely to appear in a small sample of random or semi-random data.

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^Lol here we go.

Literally the first time I've noticed this in my months of using Tinder plus.

But absolutely, it's psuedo-science.

*goes back to Sourcecode's Tinder thread*
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(12-22-2018 11:35 PM)MaceTyrell Wrote:  ^Lol here we go.

Literally the first time I've noticed this in my months of using Tinder plus.

But absolutely, it's psuedo-science.

*goes back to Sourcecode's Tinder thread*

Isn't the brain funny like that?

After all, it is the same part of our anatomy that creates defense mechanisms, like running back and clutching Mama's leg, when your beliefs are challenged.

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Corsega I respect all the time and work you've put into Tinder and online game in general. You're clearly very intelligent and genuinely you're one data-driven poster I'm happy to see around but you've been pretty dismissive lately.

It's entirely possible female fertility and cycles (IE when a large group of women are trolling for cock) are influenced by the moon, their environment, weather, and several other factors.

So give Mace Tyrell a little credit in his ability to recognize patterns, it's a little insulting to suggest "yo you're just seeing shit, this is how the brain works".

To put in perspective here are a few events that could have called a match spike.

The biggest female workplace in the area just gave some time off to their employees who all have their cycle synced. Think Macys, Ulta, Sally Mays. All females working in close proximity, likely menstrating on the same days likely ovulating in the same clusters.

A new episode of [insert NPC girl show] just released that day and there was a steamy sex scene with a guy that vaguely resembles Mace.

There was a full moon recently - many women ovulate around that time. Meaning they're lusting for dick and swiping like mad.

If you want to argue that these speculations are useless I'll have that debate with you, happily. But as of late I've been seeing you say or imply (a little closemindedly) that things are impossible or logical fallacies or dismissing valuable ideas that could be explored to all our advantages. I get it, I'm a "show me the data" guy too. But great things are born on ideas then validated by data. Game is just getting out of it's infancy and places like this are essentially what Mesopotamia was for humans aa far as game and it's development is for us. You're getting high rep and are very smart, and I've seen you post of your success. Don't let it go to your head though friend, there are still a lot of things to be discovered and used and I doubt even you would consider yourself a true master of game yet.

I appreciate all your work, and I hope it came across that I give you that small crituque with all the respect in the world, as I meant it.
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(12-23-2018 01:23 AM)Eugenics Wrote:  Corsega I respect all the time and work you've put into Tinder and online game in general. You're clearly very intelligent and genuinely you're one data-driven poster I'm happy to see around but you've been pretty dismissive lately.

It's entirely possible female fertility and cycles (IE when a large group of women are trolling for cock) are influenced by the moon, their environment, weather, and several other factors.

So give Mace Tyrell a little credit in his ability to recognize patterns, it's a little insulting to suggest "yo you're just seeing shit, this is how the brain works".

To put in perspective here are a few events that could have called a match spike.

The biggest female workplace in the area just gave some time off to their employees who all have their cycle synced. Think Macys, Ulta, Sally Mays. All females working in close proximity, likely menstrating on the same days likely ovulating in the same clusters.

A new episode of [insert NPC girl show] just released that day and there was a steamy sex scene with a guy that vaguely resembles Mace.

There was a full moon recently - many women ovulate around that time. Meaning they're lusting for dick and swiping like mad.

If you want to argue that these speculations are useless I'll have that debate with you, happily. But as of late I've been seeing you say or imply (a little closemindedly) that things are impossible or logical fallacies or dismissing valuable ideas that could be explored to all our advantages. I get it, I'm a "show me the data" guy too. But great things are born on ideas then validated by data. Game is just getting out of it's infancy and places like this are essentially what Mesopotamia was for humans aa far as game and it's development is for us. You're getting high rep and are very smart, and I've seen you post of your success. Don't let it go to your head though friend, there are still a lot of things to be discovered and used and I doubt even you would consider yourself a true master of game yet.

I appreciate all your work, and I hope it came across that I give you that small crituque with all the respect in the world, as I meant it.

Appreciate your critique.

I am dismissive because this community is full of bias, charlatans, and bullshit, and I make no qualms about calling it out before it spreads like poison.

I'm going to say something controversial and probably self-aggrandizing: other than actual Tinder employees, I potentially know more about the actual Tinder algorithm than maybe anyone else in the world. In my years studying Tinder, I have never seen any evidence that someone has correctly recognized a pattern from one of these crackpot hypotheses. It's all been driven by psychological bias.

To respond to your specific points: none of them make sense. Mace reported seeing ugly girls in the afternoon and hot girls in the evening. These were all from his random feed, not his liked feed. Whether girls are trolling for cock or not, it's not going to make a noticeable difference in the attractiveness of his random feed. Tinder pulls the random feed from random profiles, Elo-restricted, within a user's age and distance settings.

Some guys here have been on other chats and communities with me, and have messaged with me privately, and will attest that I am actually extremely good-natured and empathetic. But when these threads get polluted with pseudoscientific "observations", that triggers my bullshit detector.

There's a theory called Occam's razor. Essentially, the simplest explanation for something, is almost always the actual explanation: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam%27s_razor

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I see this phenomena as well, you could be swiping in the same session and be getting clusters of higher quality girls and clusters of SiFs, weirdos, pink haired tattooed pierced artist types staring at a broken mirror with some weird shit.

This is especially visible in Berlin where the difference is clear between normal girls who will have high ELO scores and weirdo especially aftee a reset and my ELO score was being calculated

You get shown all types of profiles, but sometimes they appear in clusters: I think of high ELO scores and low ELO scores

I think this comes from the tinder algorithm itself which does the clustering. It clusters people's profiles using similarity parameters, this is very easy to implement using algorithms like k-means clustering or self organizing maps.

The funny thing is that these algorithms are unsupervised learning so Tinder have to doesn't ask them to look for a specific attribute in a profile, these algorithms justs puts you in a class based on the features that exist in your profile e.g the number and type of girls who likes you and the types of girls you like.

I think it's quite similar to the same implementation for Tinder top picks explained by the chief scientist at Tinder a while back:

https://youtu.be/j2rfLFYYdfM

This leads me to my next observation because after a while am being shown only 18-24 year old girls (who I assume have high ELO scores). I think it's is possible to know what class the Tinder algorithm has put you just by the type of girls you are shown.


My theory is: If you have your age range set for 18-55 and you only get shown 18-24 year olds more often than not then your score is probably high for your location.

Tinder is a scam, all week in Berlin had not match and did a reset and all of a sudden there is this circular loop of one match leading to the next
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What monetary advantage would Tinder have to cluster profiles in the way you claim (or better yet, the way Mace claims)?

Remember that at the end of the day they are a business, and speaking as someone in the startup world, when you're working with venture capital money and limited resources, every decision is justified by money.

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I see, I potentially incorrectly assumed it was his "liked" feed instead of his swipe stack.

I submit that this is your arena, not mine. You're a pretty imminent dude in this area of game, I don't wish to challenge your knowledge on the platform and even though what you said is a bit self-aggrandizing I would say you have a good shot at being right in what you claim. I read almost all your posts on the subject.

I'm quite familiar with the logic tools you regularly link and myself am the first to point them out when I see someone is making a fallacy, or using an inefficient logical path, or making mistakes because a misunderstanding. My point is though there are exceptions to those rules of thumb and we can learn a lot from them. We are also in the exact right place to discuss them.

Anyway sounds like Mace was probably observing a random cluster in his user stack. Even if it was his like stack it's likely that that was a random cluster as well BUT we are approaching a full moon, a bunch of retail girls are getting time off, and it is the middle of "cuffing season". This could potentially cause a surge in likes as well as many other explanations, although they are simple wistful observations for now, it could become something later. Someone like you would probably be the one confirming or denying it.- I just wanted to point out that there are observable patterns that are sometimes difficult to explain and shutting them down can lead to stagnation. But you're a rational man, you know this. I'd love to shoot you some of my crackpot theories some other time, but in the immediate future I look forward to reading your posts and again genuinely appreciate all the data and work you put in to this stuff
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An incentive for Tinder to cluster profiles during swipe?
Well take for example the fact that Tinder has 1.6 billion swipes per day, that's 1.6 billion requests made to the server per day for profiles to swipe on

That's a massive head ache for the database who has to respond to these requests

It would make sense to cluster the user profile data in this database using a new field that defines profile classes to make the response to these requests predictable and not "random"

So if Loser 1 requests profile to swipe on, the dbms doesn't randomly pick a profile, he knows exactly to go to a particular class of profiles to show Loser 1 since Loser 1 is never gonna be shown to hot girl 1 anyway and that way we save some bandwidth, maintenance time, server response time etc.

You will notice that when you use an unofficial Tinder client on GitHub Pynder (https://github.com/charliewolf/pynder) that requests for profile to swipe on doesn't return a single profile, it returns a vector of profiles. So it will make sense to class these profiles since you are gonna be sending more than one profile for each request anyway

Again these are my theories which could damn well be wrong but what do I know
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Wow look, discussion.

But people, I very well could be wrong. If I am right, this isn't a data point that necessarily helps with matching more attractive women, or getting more attractive women out on dates.

TBH, past the advice on Sourcecode's superior Tinder thread elsewhere, Tinder/online is not worth such deep analysis.

1. Get as good photos as you can,
2. Push for the # and/or set definite plans within less than 10 messages
3. run Tuthmosis' 0 date bang recipe

Knowing Tinder as well as a Tinder employee is not really an admirable goal.
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