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(05-16-2014 10:21 AM)cocoballs Wrote:  Here's one more tinder issue that doesn't come up too often, but when it does I can only imagine the drama:

What if your main chick's friends see you on tinder and tell on you - you can't possibly deny it if there's screenshots - what's the best way to try and smooth it over?

The best thing would be to make an account with non-real mutual friends. However, if they're in the area, they'll still notice you -- but it will be even more sketchy. You can fall back on, "All my friends are on it, just wanted to see what it was." Or you can fuck your girl's friends and turn the karma around.
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(05-16-2014 02:37 AM)cocoballs Wrote:  Youngblood, what's your bio? I only had one bio which was "Yes, you do look fat in that" with moderate results, can't say it was better or worse than no bio at all.
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(Height). Avid (insert outdoor activity) and (another outdoor activity). Moved from (state) to (state).



(05-16-2014 09:35 AM)Renberg Wrote:  I think the overlooked line of @YoungBlood's Tinder game is the line where he asks women if they're his type of girl. In every case, it's a great transition into getting the number. Props.

I knew someone would pick up on this.
Most of the time, I try to transition for the number in some way. The question above serves 2 purposes: it makes her qualify herself to me and gives me a smooth transition for the number. But they're many ways to go about it. You can also imply that you're going to meet anyway by stating what you're going to bring, like whether it is something physical or an emotional state. Such as this next convo:

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If anyone broke tinder. It's youngblood.

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Youngblood borrowed a few of your methods, learning curve is fast and easy. Better responses and better ability to maintain frame.

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Youngblood thanks for sharing ! I used your infamous : ''insert your number in the box |_______|'' It worked pretty good.

Also I wrote in my bio : I don't want to look at your cellulite.

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(05-13-2014 06:22 PM)YoungBlood Wrote:  
(05-13-2014 05:57 PM)Renberg Wrote:  
(05-13-2014 04:09 PM)cocoballs Wrote:  Youngblood, you run good game but it's super direct. I'm wondering what's your conversion ratio? How many matches actually respond to your openers?

Edit: I got VERY negative albeit hilarious responses to spit or swallow. Lol

Same here. One girl asked me why guys prefer swallowing. Our convo got out of hand...

At one point, I called her out on being young: "Tell me how the Capri Sun tastes."

Her: "I'd much rather be sucking on things bigger than Capri Sun straws. Too bad you'll never find out.

Me: "Well I hope your father knows you talk like this about him behind his back."

Then she syntactically fucked up and confirmed that she sucks her dad's dick.

After she called me a shit-head, I bashed her grammar (because girls hate that) and BLOCKED her haha. Fun times. Thanks for the "Spit or swallow?" pick-up line!


Never let a girl take control of the conversation (at least in the beginning) and never react defensively. I learned this in sales. In sales, you never let the potential client/customer take control of the conversation. The minute you let this happen to you, you're done. Subconsciously, this person will know that you are not an expert and this will cause them to walk all over you. Instead of pacing and leading the interaction to your liking, they will begin to lead you off course and just like that, you've lost the rapport and sale.

On Tinder you may see the conversation as a bunch of lines and text but behind it all, lies a frame. You have to ask yourself, "Is she under my frame or am I under her's?" Be honest at this point and adjust.


I know in one of my conversations up top I did come across as a bit rude but that's because I saw my end goal and she didn't agree with it. I then told her, "you're boring. bye." This made her feel a bit of dread and she knows guys don't usually do this so she wanted to find out why. I've had to run this type of game with two other girls and one chick just flat out never responded again. That's fine, because it's all about moving forward in my reality and not hers. You'll save yourself a lot of headache by understanding that.

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can you expand on the bolded part? I'm not sure in what way/how, in the example you're analyzing, the girl "took control of the conversation." I'm not saying she didn't, I believe you, I'm just saying I don't see it; can you help me see it please?
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(05-16-2014 04:37 PM)Sumanguru Wrote:  
(05-13-2014 06:22 PM)YoungBlood Wrote:  
(05-13-2014 05:57 PM)Renberg Wrote:  
(05-13-2014 04:09 PM)cocoballs Wrote:  Youngblood, you run good game but it's super direct. I'm wondering what's your conversion ratio? How many matches actually respond to your openers?

Edit: I got VERY negative albeit hilarious responses to spit or swallow. Lol

Same here. One girl asked me why guys prefer swallowing. Our convo got out of hand...

At one point, I called her out on being young: "Tell me how the Capri Sun tastes."

Her: "I'd much rather be sucking on things bigger than Capri Sun straws. Too bad you'll never find out.

Me: "Well I hope your father knows you talk like this about him behind his back."

Then she syntactically fucked up and confirmed that she sucks her dad's dick.

After she called me a shit-head, I bashed her grammar (because girls hate that) and BLOCKED her haha. Fun times. Thanks for the "Spit or swallow?" pick-up line!


Never let a girl take control of the conversation (at least in the beginning) ...

Young,

can you expand on the bolded part? I'm not sure in what way/how, in the example you're analyzing, the girl "took control of the conversation." I'm not saying she didn't, I believe you, I'm just saying I don't see it; can you help me see it please?

The dynamic shifted into her favor when he reacted to her statement, negatively. He brought up the topic she responded to, but not before her ending with one removing him from being any sexual threat to her. She wrote him off as nothing worth pursuing since she was the one to dismiss him saying, "too bad you'll never know". He then reacted to this and according to him, they still talked about the line and the conversation spiraled out of his control.
He could have changed the topic to gain hand, like saying, "now i know why we matched." Two things could have happened. One is she'll ask him, "and that is?" or anything to that effect. Either that or she will ignore him. Which meant he lost it anyway. If she responds back to his question with, "and that is?" The dynamic is now in his favor because not only does she want to hear what he has to say but she's also letting the conversation go on with him leading the way.

She was essentially, playing dread game on him and it worked. These things are so minute and so small, many people don't pay attention to this. Every word that comes out of a girls mouth or phone, serves a purpose at establishing whether you have the hand or not. I'm not saying that knowing this will help you close any girl because that definitely won't happen. But what will happen is that you will close every girl that is closable. Which is a very small percentage in Tinder dating, something like 3-5 % out of 100 matches and I'm just being real here. Keep in mind that not all girls are bangable that I match with (I swipe right on all and filter later) so you could lower the match number of bangable hos to 70-80.

Tinder is all a numbers game but make no mistake about it, as soon as you meet someone whether it's in person or over the phone, someone is establishing their frame while the other is having theirs destroyed. Just remember: Two frames cannot exist simultaneously in an interaction. One swallows the other, always.

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^ Extraordinary breakdown and analysis.

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Just a few more thoughts to echo some of the comments and observations above. Although Tinder is mainly based on pictures, I've found much higher success adding qualifiers in my profile. It's game 101, but many guys ignore it on Tinder because of the superficiality of the app. I wrote something like 'Sophisticated, intelligent, and fitness oriented girls are for me' and my matches and responses have skyrocketed.

This has the added benefit of actually having the types you want self-select themselves into your pool. This experiment also showed that many girls will read your Tinder profile, and not blindly swipe right or left. I get many more matches with a better profile and qualifers as opposed to leaving the section blank. This is all stuff we knew already, your initial word choices make a big difference.

The song remains the same, despite all the new technology. Case in point is how many girls in the middle of a meetup will ask me my astrological sign to gauge compatibility. I'm pretty sure that was one of the original pick up lines back in the 60s, and even today it's a big indicator of interest. Funny thing it's even well-educated girls who believe in it.
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Quote:Just a few more thoughts to echo some of the comments and observations above. Although Tinder is mainly based on pictures, I've found much higher success adding qualifiers in my profile. It's game 101, but many guys ignore it on Tinder because of the superficiality of the app. I wrote something like 'Sophisticated, intelligent, and fitness oriented girls are for me' and my matches and responses have skyrocketed.

What about HB's that are insecure (which alot of girls are) that see that ? And don't swipe right ? This could be the other side of the pendulum ?
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Planning on moving to Vegas around July/August. Decided to see what the target pool was like. Fired up a fake gps app and went to town. Got some 6.5/7 girl's number using YoungBlood's "girl next door/hard fuck" opener. She wanted to know if I was actually a local so I said yes. Texted her after getting the number for shits and giggles and then confessed that I didn't actually live there yet. We had a few back and forth texts but I was bored and was giving one word answers and eventually let it fizzle.

This afternoon I was leaving from hanging out at the beach and she fucking calls me. I had no intention of talking to her on the phone so I let it ring out. She texted me a few seconds later but I was driving so didn't answer until I got to where I was going. Once I answered she texted "Why didn't you answer your phone?" W T F?!?! After a few more texts she tells me she feels like I'm preoccupied and should text her when I'm ready to have a conversation. I just said "cool". I have no intention of texting her again anytime soon. I don't think anything good would come from sticking my dick in that once I move out there. Clinger/Crazy radar is going off big time.
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Major props to youngblood, helped me improve a bit. I've never pretended to be good at this stuff and I know I don't really offer much here, but I would appreciate some help.

A girl flaked on me (and she was saying the dirtiest stuff, I thought it was guaranteed) and I was kind of pissed so I messaged a bunch of matches that hadn't responded at all to my opening and I figured they wouldn't ever respond. I don't have the ideal roommate situation so I was hoping to get something going this weekend since I'm housesitting/dogsitting for a friend. I'm not great looking and this girl, probably the hottest one I've matched up with, maybe an 8, is actually responding:

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But now I don't know where to take it and as soon as I start caring how things go they almost always go bad.
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(05-18-2014 06:34 PM)MattW Wrote:  Major props to youngblood, helped me improve a bit. I've never pretended to be good at this stuff and I know I don't really offer much here, but I would appreciate some help.

A girl flaked on me (and she was saying the dirtiest stuff, I thought it was guaranteed) and I was kind of pissed so I messaged a bunch of matches that hadn't responded at all to my opening and I figured they wouldn't ever respond. I don't have the ideal roommate situation so I was hoping to get something going this weekend since I'm housesitting/dogsitting for a friend. I'm not great looking and this girl, probably the hottest one I've matched up with, maybe an 8, is actually responding:

http://i.imgur.com/WT7UnIq.png


But now I don't know where to take it and as soon as I start caring how things go they almost always go bad.

In short you talk too much. There's not an ounce of mystery or aloofness in your conversation. Talk less, assert more and generally stop caring about the outcome.
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(05-18-2014 06:34 PM)MattW Wrote:  Major props to youngblood, helped me improve a bit. I've never pretended to be good at this stuff and I know I don't really offer much here, but I would appreciate some help.

A girl flaked on me (and she was saying the dirtiest stuff, I thought it was guaranteed) and I was kind of pissed so I messaged a bunch of matches that hadn't responded at all to my opening and I figured they wouldn't ever respond. I don't have the ideal roommate situation so I was hoping to get something going this weekend since I'm housesitting/dogsitting for a friend. I'm not great looking and this girl, probably the hottest one I've matched up with, maybe an 8, is actually responding:

http://i.imgur.com/WT7UnIq.png


But now I don't know where to take it and as soon as I start caring how things go they almost always go bad.

I agree with invictusiii. Keep the mystery and the suaveness going, but trim down the conversation. Also, although directness isn't a bad thing, you are so direct that it's axing the mystery, and in turn, making you look needy.

Look at Young's conversations. He gets in and out very quick, and he doesn't mention his goals on Tinder, previous sexual history and it's obvious he doesn't give a shit about this girl he just met via the app.

No need to rationalize in order for her to like you. "If not then no sweat." You fall into her frame. Keep it simple, keep it concise. We have faith in you.
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(05-18-2014 06:34 PM)MattW Wrote:  http://i.imgur.com/WT7UnIq.png

But now I don't know where to take it and as soon as I start caring how things go they almost always go bad.

There's your core problem right there.

You care too much and that's a sign of desperation to her and justifiably so. Guys who do care, signal that they don't have any options. Guys who don't care, on the other hand, usually have so many girls to pick and choose from, that makes them at ease with their interactions with girls. He's constantly spinning plates and living life. Now, even if you don't have options, act like you do. Ever heard the saying, "fake it till you make it" or "Act as if"? Both of those statements are immensely useful in your growth towards success in anything.

You're gonna have to soldier on with the approaches or swipes and get as much experience as you can with lizards in order to really gain that rock solid aloof mentality. But anyway, let's get down to breaking down your external game.

First off, the chat ratio was not in your favor. You gave 12 responses and she gave you 7. You talked almost twice as much as her! Not only that, but you followed up your opening line with another one. Big mistake. I never send a girl two lines for an opening pitch. Maybe later on in the chat, when the situation calls for it, but never at the very beginning. I always send one and that's it. If she responds, that's good; Game on. If not, that's still good because she saved me some time from pitching an unqualified prospect.
Every one of my conversations, all of them, the ratio is either the same or she responds 1-3 times more than me. You always want to make her feel like she's investing into you more than you are into her. I noticed there's even times where you give her 3 responses for her one answer. You really have to fix this part of your game. After you send a message, tie your hands if you have to and avoid sending more messages than necessary. Realize that some of these girls are getting hit on and you're probably down the line somewhere. She'll get to you eventually, but you only have a chance if you captured some interest and hold your ground by not messaging her more than once.

Brevity will take you far on tinder.

Right now, I think about what i'll say for a split second after I read her response and type it quickly so I can train my mind to not ponder over the dumbest responses girls give. Before, I would type it and wonder if it contains everything that needs to be said. If i felt like it was too long, then I'll delete pieces of it and make it as short as possible. If what you say is too long, re-read it to fix it or delete it. But if you must, put it all together in one paragraph and do not split them up (i.e. two messages sent instead of one long one).

You seemed goal oriented in the beginning but in the wrong way by telling her you have an empty house till Tuesday. This implies that you live with someone else and you're desperate for a release in the meantime and she caught onto it. Which is why she said, "you sound married." Also, the way you implied it says, "Hey, this doesn't happen often in my life so hurry up and take a chance with me today!!"

I could break the other stuff down but looking back at it, it would probably take up this whole page.

But enough about that, here's a conversation I had a while back which I didn't post.This one sort of ties into your situation a bit. The girl gave me some resistance and I softened her up for the close. Notice how she took two days to respond to me. I didn't send her another message and I just left it at that. Well, she does get back to me and it's on. Now, I also want you guys to notice how she brushes me off when I go for the number. Instead of acknowledging the brush off by getting salty or asking for the number again, I playfully talk about something else. After two lines, I go in for the kill and get what the fuck I came for.

I met her yesterday and she was just as playful as she was on Tinder. I did bang her and I will keep this lizard in rotation strictly for the sex and bantering practice. She definitely knows how to banter and make guys look like fools with her quick and snappy comments. I personally like girls like this because it gives me practice and helps me calibrate to any situation where the girl is being sassy.

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You can edit your age in Tinder? I thought it draws that from the FB account.
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Hi guys, I'm thinking of giving it a try.
This is a huge thread but has anyone created an alt FB to use with tinder? So you can "modify" your age?
Also use some different photos specifically for the purpose of tinder?
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How To Use Tinder When Traveling:

1) Set profile to read "Only In Town For X Nights"
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3) Text standard humorous "want to bang" message
4) If you think you could get multiple yeses, text "how do you feel about threesomes?"
5) Get phone #'s, nudes, and invite to hotel
6) Clear Tinder once you leave city

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(05-19-2014 01:19 PM)hedonist Wrote:  Hi guys, I'm thinking of giving it a try.
This is a huge thread but has anyone created an alt FB to use with tinder? So you can "modify" your age?
Also use some different photos specifically for the purpose of tinder?

I deleted my facebook page over 2 years ago, so I set up a new one just for tinder with a throwaway email address so no one on facebook who knows me can find me on it. No friends, just some pictures, my first name on it is real but last isn't. There's a limit to how often you can change your age but I'm not sure what what the limit is.
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Is it just me or girls who don't ask for your FB prior to a Tinder first date are the ones who tend to be more slutty / less relationship oriented?
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(05-19-2014 08:36 PM)shotgun Wrote:  Is it just me or girls who don't ask for your FB prior to a Tinder first date are the ones who tend to be more slutty / less relationship oriented?

This statement seems like it can go either way. Maybe that's because upon receiving a girl's number, I always ask for a pic or her instagram. I want to make sure her advertising of herself is true and legit. And I'm just looking to hook up.

In contrast, in favor of your opinion, if she doesn't ask for any info, there's a good chance she's confident she's attracted to you.
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Getting laid on Tinder seems to be easy. Most of it is just cocky/borderline-aggressive text game.

Here's a chat log some guy posted earlier on /r/theredpill: http://i.imgur.com/KNbt04t.png
Original thread here: http://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comme...ld_report/
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YoungBlood's line "You know what they say about adventurous girls, right? ... They are waiting for someone to tame them" is gold. You can switch adventurous for athletic and cover all your bases, it is still fantastic. The last response I got from it was

"Oh that is so true. Literally, I prob won't admit it often but it's the truth."
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