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Thai Islands Datasheet- Koh Samui, Koh Tao, Koh Phi Phi
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Thai Islands Datasheet- Koh Samui, Koh Tao, Koh Phi Phi
Me and InternationalSwagger were just in Thailand for about 16 nights just after Christmas (absolute peak season for the Thai islands), and I know this term is sometimes used loosely, but I think we pretty much "killed it". Including Bangkok, I banged 5 chicks on the trip and Swagger with an astounding 9 or 10 (lost count). Flags came from: Canada, USA, Thailand, Sweden, Finland, Scotland, Australia, UK, Norway, Indonesia and France. We started out in Bangkok and were there for 3 nights before heading down to Koh Samui, Koh Tao and then Koh Phi Phi. I won't even touch Bangkok as there is plenty of info on the forum about it and where to go. Was gonna go to Koh Phanagan for the full moon party but it was raining that night and would have had to take a boat across so skipped it. Heard it was a nightmare with the boats plus it was a good thing as two Thai gangs got in a shootout and a young English kid got killed in the cross fire. Met a girl who was standing next to him and tried to plug his wound until a 2nd shot went off and everyone scattered.

Many people are on an extended traveling plan backpacking through SE Asia and some on a shorter term holiday plan. I thought I was doing it big with almost 3 weeks on vacation, but these people were on minimum couple month long jaunts. Back home people kept asking me when I was coming back and if I moved to Thailand. Shows you the way of thought Americans have towards taking trips.

General things:
*Get a DTAC SIM card which you can buy at any 7-11 (which are everywhere). You will pay about $30USD for what should last you about a month. 2GB data, and like 200 minutes I think. I had a SIM from AIS first but it didn't connect to 4G while the DTAC one did. Texting will eat your balance quick, so message chicks using fb messenger or Whats App.
* The best value drink wise are the "buckets". Its a small bucket filled with about a quart of whatever booze you want (minimal whiskey for some reason. Mostly Vodka or Rum) and then whatever mixer you want, Red Bull, Soda, Coke, etc... They do have Club soda also which is nice as many other countries I've been too don't have it for some reason and give you damn Sprite. These cost between $5USD and $9USD depending on the island and what booze you get.
* You can rent mopeds for $5/day but we never did after seeing TONS of people taped and bandaged up from accidents. Those are only the minor accidents you see, as the ones really hurt are in the hospital or dead! I'm good and will pay for the taxi when needed...


The girls:
You are basically partying in Europe but on a Thai island under beautiful weather. Tons of chicks from Scandinavia, Sweden, Norway and Finland. Lots of English girls (good looking ones, not the fatties you usually see) and also large amount of Australians and a fair share of Israelis also. Sprinkle in a few Canadians, Germans, Dutch, French, and a small amount of Russians and you have about 95% of the girls covered. This is a flag hunters paradise!


Koh Samui:

I found Koh Samui to be kind of a dump overall, but granted, we didn't leave Chaweng Beach. I'm sure there are other parts of the island which are really nice, but we just stayed there. All the action is on one ugly fuckin' road with power lines dangling everywhere, shitty narrow sidewalk which makes walking annoying, and the worst part is that it is not even set on the beach so you feel like you are inland when you are really only 150 yards from the water. Pretty stupid and ugly setup if you ask me. The problem is that all the nightlife is in Chaweng, with apparently a small scene in Lamai, so if you want to have a good time you are pretty much relegated to staying there. Weather was kinda shitty during our stay which was a little prohibitive also for daytime stuff, but what can you do?! Drink another bucket of booze and power through chasing girls and having a good time!

Pros:
You can fly there direct.
More nightlife options and actual large clubs to hit up.
Has some very nice restaurants by western standards.
Bigger hotels and overall scene.
SOME normal Thai girls out and about, which you wont really find in the other islands.

Cons:
Chaweng is a dump.
You can fly there (Lots of scuzzy, 18-20 yo, Brits and Aussies due to easy access. Also some families for the same reason as it is easy to get too.)
No real parties on the beach other than Ark Bar which had the above mentioned Brits and Aussies.
Beach environment, but all the nightlife venues are really off the beach. The main drag through Chaweng is a shithole really and you are forced to walk up and down it continually to go out, eat, and really do anything as everything is located on it.

The nightlife was pretty damn packed every night, definitely more guys than chicks, but the girls were VERY ripe for the taking and the dudes have no game. Thailand I realized is the kind of place where girls leave all inhibitions at home and basically want to get drunk and have sex EVERY night. Bingo!!

Where to Stay:
The key is being close to the nightlife in Chaweng. We stayed at both the Chaweng Beachcomber Resort (about $65US/night) and also the Blue Lagoon Hotel (about $105US). They are sister hotels with the Blue Lagoon being a little nicer and with a great pool. The Beachcomber is RIGHT in the mix and is a little cheaper, but neither location will prohibit you from dragging girls back easily to your room. Both hotels are "guest friendly" also, so no issues bringing chicks back on that front. The Blue Lagoon is bit nicer for sure, but for the price difference I would probably stay at the Beachcomber when going back, as it is only a slight downgrade really. Look these two up on a map, and stay anywhere close to either one and you are in the thick of it.

Where to go out: The nightlife is very easy to figure out and is all in a small area from which you will just walk from one place to another. Get your logistics in the above mentioned area and you can't miss it. I will drop the names and then you just have to check them out on the night you are going out to see which is best and then hop around.

Ark Bar- Beach bar and also a hotel (could be REALLY easy to drag them back if you stay here) which had tons of young brits and aussies on a nightly basis, but a good place to start your night out. Not a real fan of the scene, as its the kind of place they are serving towers of beer and many people are sitting down. Later it does get more live but we spent most of our time at the other clubs mentioned below. Ark Bar does have a small piss filled pool with a swim up bar that could lead to some decent debauchery.
Green Mango- Huge club with a couple big dance floors. Both indoors and out, but mostly indoors. Met a Ukrainian 10 there who I am keeping in touch with on fb but you can tell that those chicks are just WAY smarter than most other chicks. They know what you are after and don't just spread their legs.
Sound Club- Another huge club and I think it had multiple rooms with slightly different music. Was pretty buzzed every night at these places and might have Green Mango and Sound Clubs interior mixed up. Doesn't make a difference though, as both should be pretty packed and have lots of young, horny, dancing girls looking to hook up.
Hush- This place played good hip hop most nights and also had a lot of girls one night, and seemed like a cock fest another. Much smaller venue but there are still plenty of gems in there.
Q Bar- This is the only place we went which you had to take a cab too as its situated up on a hill 5 minutes away and has a great view of the coast and city. On NYE this place had like a $30-40USD over charge and it was filled with mostly Russians and was a classier scene you would actually wear pants and a buttonup/ V neck too. Hot ass Russian chicks at that, but they all seemed to be in couples. Worth another look, as I am sure its not always couples there but it could also be kinda quiet I'm guessing. This is a great place to take a chick for drinks and watch the sunset up there.

The beaches: Whether there is a beach at all depends on the tide. High tide, there is basically zero beach which sucks. Also, the way its situated and the hotels laid out, most chicks are staying on there hotel premises at the pool facing the sea rather than being out on the sand where you could chat them up. There are some small waves there and you can rent a surfboard also. Far from epic surfing, but nevertheless it was fun.

General Notes:
This really goes for all of the islands, but there is definitely very few non-working Thai girls there. This has more than the other islands, but if you are looking for Thai girls, then the islands are not the place to find them. I did manage to pull one who was the bartender at a place across from Green Mango but that was a pretty rare find. I swore she was an undercover hooker but turned out to definitely not be, as she went out of her way to tell me that she wasn't so I wouldn't even ask her.

Like I mentioned above, there were more guys than girls here for sure with lots of Australians and Brits here. Many of those Aussie dudes are gay though come to find out or have no game. The Thai chick I mentioned above and her friend were at our pool during the day and her friend starting talking to one of these Aussie dudes. Dude did not seem gay to me at all and was a big jacked up, good looking dude. She added him on Facebook and then the girls were laughing and I asked why. This dude had some VERY sweet pictures there which clearly showed he was gay despite not coming off at all like that. Also heard from some other girl that many of the aussie dudes are gay down there. Also saw on a few other occasions these dudes marching down the street drunk and doing fuckin' pushups on the street and counting them off, really gay. Me and Swagger were cracking up about it! Let those lames walk down the street in packs and do pushups, and we will wheel all the chicks while you are working on your pecs. This is exactly what we did!

Our Stats:
I pulled two chicks (Thai and Canadian) in the 4 or 5 nights we stayed there and didn't go out one night. The other night me and my other buddy who was there lost Swagger at some point, and managed to get two Aussie chicks back to the room who spent the night. My wingman that night was a terrible closer though and cost me a notch as he couldn't get anything going with the other chick and they both passed out in my fuckin' room and it was like a big slumber party with him spooning her but doing nothing. In hindsight, I could have maneuvered around it I'm pretty sure and gotten it, but in the drunken haze of the evening I just passed out and called it a night. Woke up regretting it though and especially now as she messages me from Melbourne! Swagger also I think pulled at least two chicks in that same time. I know he pulled an American and I think also a Swede or Aussie, and there may have been a Thai chick in there if I remember right.

American and Canadian girls we pulled:
   

Koh Tao:

I liked this island MUCH more than Samui. No families, better ratios of girls, I would say slightly classier chicks, and the dudes weren't as young and as obnoxious as in Samui. In this place they actually got the beach scene right. you can get there from the mainland and take a boat, but we took a boat from Koh Samui which was about 2 hours. Lots of little restaurants and bars on the sand and the nightlife was also on the beach which was dope. Cheapest place to get scuba certification in the world also which me and another buddy of mine did. Cost us about $280 USD and was a professionally run operation with Europeans at the helm. We did it through Simple Life Divers who after the research I did seemed like a good operation and proved to be.

Where to stay:

We stayed a block from the beach at the Simple Life Dive Resort (its just a hotel in a good location and I dont think most of the guests were even diving) in Sairee Beach which is the only place to be. We had the Deluxe Room for the first 4 nights which was VERY pimp (by US standards) and cost about $110USD/night. Very modern, huge shower, good mood lighting, and a patio. We then stayed for two more nights and got the standard room which was pretty similar but the bathroom wasn't as nice. This cost was $75USD. Perfectly fine for what you need.

A place where I think you could pull more chicks WHILE doing your scuba certification would be Ban's Dive Resort. Bigger school meaning you will meet more people, modern facilities (not sure if you can bring guests in), great location, and a good bar on the sand where most of the people seemed to congregate after diving.

The location of our place was a 2 minute walk from where you start your night (Lotus Bar & Cancun Bar) and 5-7 minutes from the spots you will end up later in the night if you don't pull in the first two venues.

Where to go out:
Depending how your day goes, you can run it two ways. Start your night before sunset and grab a good spot at Wind Bar (maybe Wind Cafe). You can also skip this part and cut straight to the next venue if you need to rest before. Its at the beach if you walk directly down from Simple Life Dive Resort. Good drinks, DJ playing dope beats as the sun sets and then you have some talented Thai dudes doing a fire show for entertainment once it gets dark. Not a whole lot of chicks it seemed, but a dope vibe to kick back at and throw a few back. Then around 10-11PM you head down to Lotus Bar which is also on the beach and has a DJ and should be pretty packed with people getting more and more loose until it closes around 2:30. Right next to Lotus bar is Cancun Bar which also has a DJ on the beach and a little more dancing on the sand than Lotus. Check both and then do your thing or bounce back and forth. If you dont pull anything here and stayed until closing, then you will walk down the walkway along the beach and head to Fish Bowl (more clubby atmosphere on the beach) or some other place I cant think of the name which is right there also. You cant miss them. You can also go to those last two places as early as 12-1 if Lotus isn't going off for some reason. We met up with Scotian (cool dude!) while there for a night and for whatever reason it was kinda quiet that night and not really going off. The next night, it was crazy again!

There is also a "Mansion Party" three times a month which we hit up and was pretty crowded but was fuckin lame. Lots of dudes and you have to take a taxi there. I wouldn't go back but it could be good at times I'm sure. To me just not necessary when you have everything walking distance and on the beach.

General notes and our stats:

This place just has a dope, chill island vibe during the day and some great scuba diving, while at night it bustles with tons of girls all looking to get laid at the various beach bars. Leave the pants at home and you will be wearing shorts and t-shirt or tanktop at night. I put on sneakers, shorts, and nice t-shirt or V neck to get about as dressed up as you could for this scene. Most guys were out in sandals and tank tops. You basically will be partying on the sand or in a beach bar/club and drinking the buckets of booze dancing and having a good time. I could set up shop and kick it in this place for a month.

I was doing the scuba certification there so had to lay low a couple nights with early morning dives. Pulled a sexy French chick there who was giving me amazing blowers and I ended up hitting two nights in a row. It was pretty funny when she heard I was American, in her heavy French accent said something along the lines of, "Americans and French do not like each other..." I came back with "Well, lets start international diplomacy right now" and moved in for the kiss. Swagger was right there we were laughing our asses off after! What I noticed was everywhere was that you did not get nearly any LMR from chicks. They know what they want. This chick then 5 minutes later asked me very matter of factly, "Have you French kiss before?" (as if we hadn't already kissed) Of course I said "No" with a big smile on my face and we went at it again. She then asks me, again straight faced, "Do you have condom?" Game on! 5 minute interview from her friend to make sure I wasn't crazy and we left. This was about 20 minutes after meeting her. She told me the next morning after beating it up that she was reluctant to sleep with me because she had three friends who went to NY, all fucked some dudes, and all the girls said it was bad sex. I told her we do it different on the West Coast!...players in NY, step your game up! You're making Americans look bad!! haha

Swagger, absolutely CRUSHED this place and was 4 for 4 in the first 4 nights and ended up 5 out of 6. He pulled one or two Swedish chicks, one or two Australian chicks and a Finnish chick. I knew he was on fire so I popped my head into his room one morning on the way to an early morning dive only to see another head of blonde hair in his bed! It was pretty classic! He's getting a +1 from me for his work on this trip!

The game here like all the islands is to just have a good time and party with the chicks, flirt a little and go for the make out. IF you are making out with them, you are most likely gonna go home with them. No need for sophisticated game here as most chicks dont want to hear it. They just want to have fun and have sex at the end of the night.

Pic of some English fly English chicks we kicked it with and Swagger ALMOST swooped. I couldn't help that night as I had Frenchy...
   

Koh Phi Phi:

This place and Koh Tao to me are the islands I would go back to for sure. This place is just beautiful and has the wildest party scene of all the islands and great scuba diving also.! Four or five clubs on the sand right next to each other with chicks drinking like sailors, give you countless chicks to work on and the perfect recipe for making it happen! The islands are all wild and crazy, but this one is just a little looser and had the hottest chicks and the best ratios. I think the looseness stems from the fact it is the most well known island and this is the THE destination for the chicks that are there, so they want to make the most of it. We were so beat up after raging for two weeks, that we only managed two nights here before having to call it quits unfortunately.

Where to stay: Logistics are a pain in the ass and the most expensive of all the islands. Many places you cant get book online it seems in advance and you basically book something right when you get off the boat at the end of the pier. There is a "tourist office" there which is basically dudes with a notebook of all the hotels with prices. Surprisingly there is no markup for booking through them as the hotels must pay them a commission. If you get there in the afternoon (this time of year during peak season at least) many people are apparently turned around because everything is full. Its like a bit of a mad scramble to book something when you get off. They have pictures, prices and a map and then you decide. We stayed at the Phi Phi Casita which cost about $120USD for a small and not fancy room but in a good location. We found out at check in, this hotel is NOT guest friendly and they REALLY secure the place at night. You can get girls in though, just have them walk in alone and head straight to the room and they should be good. Go in as a pair, you are toast. There are other properties on the hill, I think they call it "view hill" or something, but I think its a little bit of a haul there. Granted, when the girls want to fuck out here, I don't see them not coming back because of another 10 minute walk but we decided against it.

Daytime: This place has some amazing diving sites nearby and also cool beaches you can hire a boat to take you too. The beach where the party scene is at night (right by Slinkys) had an unbelievable amount of talent chilling on the sand in the day. HOT chicks, and many in pairs of two. Pretty large amount of Israelis who we saw during the day but didn't meet them at night. I'm sure they were out, we just didn't find them. Tons of Scando chicks here! When the tide is low the beach is way back as you will see in one of the photos. This is pretty wack but you cant do much about the tide. See the pic of some Israeli chicks chilling on the beach.
   

Where to go out: There are a couple bars not on the beach which are good places to start early around 10 or so. One is an Irish bar that almost turns into a club and is pretty fun. Don't remember the name We met a couple cut deaf chicks in there who we didn't realize were deaf when we opened them, and ended up being pretty cool. Swagger was really chatting (literally on his phone typing shit and she would type back) with one of them for a minute just talking about general shit and not really gaming. She was actually a really sweet girl who we kinda felt bad for. You could tell she just wanted to have fun, party, and have sex like everyone else. She wrote him "I want to see you later" and he could definitely have hit it had he wanted but the whole thing just felt a little wrong and weird. We did have some laughs about the prospects of it though. Is that a special flag??

Banana Bar- This place is also not on the beach but is on a rooftop outdoors, has lots of couches surrounding the perimeter and just has a good layout for gaming. It was raining when we hit it a bit though so that affected it.

Slinky- This is the epicenter of all the action here! Located on the beach, blasting music, dancing and bucket drinking debauchery like everywhere else. There are 3 or 4 of these clubs right next to one another and they are all packed. I dont know exactly how many people are partying on the sand right there at night, but it had to be a couple thousand total I think. No need to go into the middle of the dance floor which is packed, just float around the outer perimeter and plenty of chicks will cruise by to chat up. Dance around with them, make out with them, and go home with them. Easy as 1,2,3!

General notes and our stats:

We were here two nights only like I mentioned. The first night we went out and we were running around and opening EVERYTHING. Came upon two cute dutch girls who were smoking hookah and we just flanked them from both sides and did our thing. Within 30 minutes or so we were both making out with them. Thought it was a done deal but I think in hindsight we got a little stagnant or something and needed to get them up from sitting down and take them to dance or something before trying to leave with them. Don't know why or remember exactly how it happened, but somehow we lost hold of them. This was the one night we were kinda running around "gaming" numbers of girls and it didn't work that well. Need to just have a good time, slowly (5 minutes) build a little chemistry and trust that you are not some drunk hooligan. I saw so many drunken idiots just stumble up to some chick, scream, dance and say something stupid as fuck only to have them roll their eyes and push him away. Just don't be that dude and you are good! At the end of the night we ended up at some pool hall and shooting pool. I was gambling with some Aussies and Brits and kicking their ass and it turned into a fight. It was about 6 on 2 and in trying to talk some sense into a few of them we didn't get jumped which could have happened easily. Swagger and one of them threw a few blows, one English dude tried to jump in so I put him in a chokehold and peeled him off. Wiped the dust off and realized we should get the fuck out of there outnumbered the way we were!

The next night we both scored. We didn't get out till almost 1AM and dudes were already going home with chicks just as we were getting out. We had been out 5 minutes at Slinky when Swagger slowly moved in on a sexy English/Spanish chick. Making out ensued 3 minutes later and he was back at the spot with her no later than an hour after us going out. I then met a sexy 23 yo Norwegian with a fake rack who I started making out with quickly also. Tried to walk her down the beach and hit it there knowing our "no guest" policy and the fact Swagger was sticking his chick in our shared room. While on the beach with her I noticed a search party of a hot blonde and a couple thai guys with flashlights looking for something in the sand. I asked her what she lost and she said "Her engagement ring"...I asked her, "You weren't wearing it?" and she stuttered and said "No, yeah I was..." Uh huh...this broad had that thing in her pocket and was on a dark stretch of beach probably getting pounded by someone else when she lost her ring. Now what?? Fake one made in Bangkok?! Bad problem to have...This is the kind of shit that goes on here!

My chick was adamant about a bed so I told her my boy had a chick back and we were sharing a room. She didn't care and said "I like to fight and fuck!" Well, OK, lets go! I had her into the complex and was gonna follow her when a good fight broke out outside which I wanted to watch. I told her to go to the room and she came back smoking in the lobby and and they caught wind. They wanted $70USD and a passport which she didn't have. Fuck that...walked down to her hotel which was packed with chicks in there. No go...took her to the beach and tried to go skinny dipping with her. Problem was the fuckin tide is low so I'm sludging through puddles for two hundred yards holding my dick. Fuck that also! Walked back to the beach, stole some life jackets from a nearby beached boat and made her "bed" that she wanted. Fucked her on beach as she bellowed across the bay! I don't like beach sex generally, but sometimes you gotta be resourceful! She also told me some interesting shit about Norwegian girls. They ALL cheat on there men and have no morals! Good to know for better or worse...asked for her fb info after, she said "Why? I wont remember you or care tomorrow I just wanted to fuck you tonight" Well OK then!! haha

Overall:

The islands are a crazy party atmosphere with chicks from all over Europe but mostly I would say Scandinavia after you leave Koh Samui, which is mostly English and Aussie. Saw one cop on our last day in about two weeks on the islands. This place is kinda like the wild west and anything goes. Infrastructure is a little rough around the edges as you would expect but it comes with the territory. Got in a fight, saw another fight, but in general if you are not an idiot you shouldn't have any problems as everyone wants to have fun. The Thai people are unbelievably friendly and really make it a great experience. Oh yeah, and the thousands of young, hot, and horny chicks from all over the world also help Banana Lot of 6,7's and 8's with some 9's and a few 10's sprinkled in as well. Went to a Muay Thai fight in an arena in Koh Samui, sat front row with blood splatter basically hitting us, and smoked and drank the night away there! Felt like the old fight footage from the 50's you see with everyone smoking inside. Good times!

Will definitely go back next year if not sooner, as the high season I heard lasts until about the end of March. This was absolute peak season (Dec 15th-Jan 15th), but still a lot of people until that time. Prices should come down pretty significantly later also. Get your logistics right and it should be one of the easiest places to pull chicks. It is a pretty high energy game you need, as the boring quiet guy in the corner probably wont do that well. Drink buckets of booze and have fun and you'll do fine! Taxing on the body though, so you may want to plan a detox somewhere after. The Thai islands get two thumbs up from me!

Below are some pics from the trip. These were far from the hottest chicks there, but we didn't take that many pics when out and about except a few times we thought of it.

Buckets!
   

English chicks:
   

Indonesian chick who Swagger got:
   

Israeli chicks in our lobby in Phi Phi:
   

Random chicks on the street:
   
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Great datasheet, you really broke it down.

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mate nice work

love the thai islands and the whole atmosphere of the place. have not been there for over 8 years...looking to get back sometime this year

one thing about the islands/the clubs etc etc is it all a really young crowd?? 18-25 etc.
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Sweet sheet. Can I ask what was the general age of people there? Was it mostly real youngins (18-22) or was it a good mix of ages say 18-30's?
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RE: Thai Islands Datasheet- Koh Samui, Koh Tao, Koh Phi Phi
Great stuff! This area is golden but you really have to nail the dates or you risk getting there at a time when it's dead.

Shame you let the deaf girl down though that was probably one of her few chances to feel like a normal girl!

In any case a real good report.
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@Qwest- good report. What was your favorite nationality of girl there? The brits/aussies are freaking ugly there. When there, the expats would call them white water buffalos (going to their favorite watering holes).

Ease of pulling was cake tho for these girls. Willing to bang in 5 mins or less. Desperate for dick because of heavy alcohol consumption along w/ the fact that thai/expat men would completely ignore them. These girls are attention-craved after 2-3 days of invisible-ness during the day.

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(01-22-2013 08:14 AM)Vicious Wrote:  Great stuff! This area is golden but you really have to nail the dates or you risk getting there at a time when it's dead.

Shame you let the deaf girl down though that was probably one of her few chances to feel like a normal girl!

Agreed on the dates you go. This was absolute peak time of year so I can't speak as well on the others but my scuba instructor who was a young Swede and lives there told me it is still packed until April. After that, seems to be dead time as he told me he only did 3 scuba lessons in 4 months after that. I wouldn't risk it probably after mid early March for that same fear. Seems to coincide with Europe being freezing, Thailand will be busy.

Yeah, you hit the nail on the head with the deaf girl. It was just a STRANGE feeling...She caught us right when going out, a couple more buckets and it might have been all she wrote.

(01-22-2013 11:46 AM)DVY Wrote:  @Qwest- good report. What was your favorite nationality of girl there? The brits/aussies are freaking ugly there. When there, the expats would call them white water buffalos (going to their favorite watering holes).

I would have to say the various Scandinavians countries most likely. I have traveled a lot and seen the "white water buffalo" English and Aussies traveling though, but once you left Koh Samui the quality in these chicks was pretty high. I think its because the lazy fat chicks can fly right into Koh Samui, while getting to the other islands requires, ferries, boats, buses or some combination thereof so you get more athletic adventurous type. Same reason you didn't see nearly ANY families once leaving Samui.

The picture of the 4 blondes, the two on the right were REALLY hot in person with great bodies. The tall one on the left was pretty good looking but I called her "mother hen" as I knew her type and knew she would be a fuckin' cockblocker which she was. She basically cost Swagger the notch of the one in the blue top.

The age thing also applies to Samui being different. Samui was definitely younger, with the other islands a bit older. The Canadian and American pictured were 27, the French chick was like 32, the 4 blonde English girls 22-23. Still pretty young after Samui, but not 18yo young for the most part. Plenty of 25+ chicks...Samui is cheaper and easier to get too so you get more broke backpackers and lazy fat chicks. Still tons of hot girls, but just more there than anywhere else. Don't think I saw ONE fat girl in Koh Phi Phi. I'm sure I did, but literally don't remember seeing any. A video walking down that beach in the day would have been epic...
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This is such an excellent report Qwest. Dec-Jan 15th it is along with until April for good crowds. Would anyone here be able to drop any other intel on best times to visit the southern Thai beaches year round? Only times I could go in future would be Dec-Jan 15th or Mid-May to Early June in future. Thanks Qwest and others who have contributed.
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(01-22-2013 02:31 PM)yb13 Wrote:  This is such an excellent report Qwest. Dec-Jan 15th it is along with until April for good crowds. Would anyone here be able to drop any other intel on best times to visit the southern Thai beaches year round? Only times I could go in future would be Dec-Jan 15th or Mid-May to Early June in future. Thanks Qwest and others who have contributed.

Koh Phi Phi is pretty far south and I think its the same time frames. Once the weather warms up in Europe (May, June) those people go the coast of Europe instead of Thailand leaving you with essentially nobody. Go Dec- Jan 15th...
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Those pics are a fair rep I think. Generally very shabby though. The only 8's I saw were Israeli and judging by that pic they are still just as miserable as I remember Smile
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I have read tons of Thailand Data Sheets on here.

They always leave me more confused about the place than ever.

This was the first one on here where I feel I now know what the scene is like. We are on the same sheet of music, perspective-wise.

I would go as far to say as this is the best Thailand Sheet on here. Great work.

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(01-22-2013 03:08 PM)gadabout Wrote:  Those pics are a fair rep I think. Generally very shabby though. The only 8's I saw were Israeli and judging by that pic they are still just as miserable as I remember Smile

These pictures do not do this place (Koh Tao & Koh Phi Phi) justice...Like QWest said If I we only had a camera mounted to our eyes it would of been golden. No one likes to take pictures going out at night when your holding a bucket of liquor and gaming at least not me... Hooking up with chicks was just the icing on the cake. Getting the diving in, massages and spa treatments on the cheap, tailor made suits, shopping great culinary scene with a dope beach and water sport atmosphere all for the cheap It cannot be beat. I would say the Swedes/Dutch were probably the hottest chicks I encountered there. There were no Thais girls to game in Koh Tao and Koh Phi Phi so the issue with the Euro/North American/Scandi/ girls not having anyone (expat or thai guys) hitting on them was null and void. It was basically Europe on the Islands so everyone was getting it on. I know in BKK for someone staying there long term it's a totally different story but that's for a BKK post, doesn't apply here.

Like Qwest said being the quiet shy type running PUA style game isn't going to work on these islands. Closed mouths dont get fed! My method for running basically was dance floor game, converse a bit maybe a venue change if It was early then go for the kiss close then "Let's Get Outta Here" back to my spot. We had our own rooms for the majority of the trip (minus Koh Phi Phi) and most girls on this trip shacked up to at least four in one room so having that was smooth. Chicks got really comfy in our rooms in Koh Tao with the large walk in showers and balcony.

It was funny talking with girls and telling them we had our own spot. They thought we were weird for doing that because we had so much space for the three of us but it paid off. One night when I was about to close on some hot British girls and the two other dudes that were gaming them we went back to their supposed "Villa" on a resort far away and they were sharing a bed so they couldn't really isolate the chicks. We had a nice pool party on the deck of the room though skinny dipping and making out with the chicks but couldn't close because of the "Mother Hen" hater AND just didn't have enough space to isolate and get it done. All Good.

If I was to set up shop in one island to set up ship in I would definitely pick Koh Tao as it's large enough with a diverse nightlife scene in two different scenes and plenty to do on the island and a fresh crop of women arriving daily from Koh Phanagan and Samui. People come to Koh Tao to chill out a bit more but it gets popping! It has more a chill vibe with the beach bars which were amazing for happy hour and dope music over looking the ocean. For day game you can easily chat up women at restaurants being out and about or dive excursions or day trips around the island which I highly suggest in meeting and linking up with people during the day especially If you are staying at a hotel and not a hostel.

I would be interested in seeing how different it is from the time we went to see how it is around late February early March, I wouldn't chance it after April. This place was GOLD. I loved my time here and we really had a good time, the eye candy walking down the streets and beaches was unreal, I was turning my head a lot of this trip. One of my top 3 vacations of all time!
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How do you think it would have been if you were solo vs with two legit crew members?

Harder?

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Great report, I'm especially interested in the diving aspects. How was the marine life? Wrecks?

Also, I like the idea of this migratory game...catching the birds while they are in their summer grounds. Why go to expensive Scandinavia when you can get them on a tropical island.
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THere is always at least 1 hot girl in the group but these kind of intense party islands make isolating quite hard. I got lucky a few times by just hanging out at a certain roof top bar just off the main strip. I have terrible night game in an intense club environment so if you are a crazy party monster I am sure you could get laid every night.
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(01-22-2013 02:31 PM)yb13 Wrote:  This is such an excellent report Qwest. Dec-Jan 15th it is along with until April for good crowds. Would anyone here be able to drop any other intel on best times to visit the southern Thai beaches year round? Only times I could go in future would be Dec-Jan 15th or Mid-May to Early June in future. Thanks Qwest and others who have contributed.

Koh Phi Phi is pretty far south and I think its the same time frames. Once the weather warms up in Europe (May, June) those people go the coast of Europe instead of Thailand leaving you with essentially nobody. Go Dec- Jan 15th...

I can't attest to the east coast islands, but Koh Phi Phi was still pretty busy when I was there in June last year. Not impossible to get a room busy, but still at least a thousand or so people partying on the beach.

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(01-22-2013 03:56 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  How do you think it would have been if you were solo vs with two legit crew members?

Harder?

Not as much action?

Or full steam ahead?

Sadly I have to say that it's far harder solo. The scene in the Thailand islands is very similar to the European charter vacation scene. Pre-gaming parties, semi-social group action with girls running in duos and small groups. When I was younger I could completely sustain myself on these kind of trips with little effort these days I have to work if I go as I no longer have company travelling with me.
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(01-22-2013 03:56 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  InternationalSwagger -

How do you think it would have been if you were solo vs with two legit crew members?

Harder?

Not as much action?

Or full steam ahead?

I think socially it would of been a bit awkward because EVERYONE is traveling with a group or at least one person there. But It can be done. If I went solo I would definitely try to get a room in a private hostel to make friends off the rip. I'm a very social guy anyway so It wouldn't be hard for me to go out and game solo but in that environment in Koh Tao And Koh Phi Phi it would of seemed awkward to me. I just think in an island like that it's funner when you have your boys with you sharing the experiences and doing your thing besides chasing women as well. The fellowship and the camaraderie we had on the trip was awesome and going solo for a short trip (2 weeks) out there would negate that type of feeling. But I wouldn't be opposed If I was actually living there for a month or two in Koh Tao to rolling solo.
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I did Thailand solo. It worked out just fine. You make friends fast. Meet ppl on the streeet, tag along, integrate, dis-integrate, join other circles. Its like club-game on a city-scale. Spending some time even in huge BKK, you start running into similar expats, tourists, working girls. There aren't that many night-spots out for ppl to go out during the week (even San Francisco was like this). Its usually a rotating venue of 3-5 hot-spots for clubs/bars with- in each socio-economic strata/area and a core group of people who go out a lot, mixing w/some new blood .

W/Friends would be much better to help w/the mental grind. Its lonely on the grind alone at home. In a foreign country, its almost too much- language, poverty, prostitutes, drunk idiocy, mystery meats, etc etc.

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(01-22-2013 04:37 PM)DVY Wrote:  I did Thailand solo. It worked out just fine. You make friends fast. Meet ppl on the streeet, tag along, integrate, dis-integrate, join other circles. Its like club-game on a city-scale. Spending some time even in huge BKK, you start running into similar expats, tourists, working girls. There aren't that many night-spots out for ppl to go out during the week (even San Francisco was like this). Its usually a rotating venue of 3-5 hot-spots for clubs/bars with- in each socio-economic strata/area and a core group of people who go out a lot, mixing w/some new blood .

What I think G is saying is that he mainly does his thing solo, not that he can't make friends en locale.
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(01-22-2013 03:32 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  I have read tons of Thailand Data Sheets on here.

They always leave me more confused about the place than ever.

lol The reason it's not confusing is because it's about the tourist girl scene. Any data sheet about Thai women is bound to be confusing.

Anyways, definitely an A+ datasheet.

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Great stuff. Spot on with my Phi Phi experience. While we're a bit older than the average age, I ran Phi Phi with one of my childhood friends for a couple of nights. High energy and muscles can definitely clean up this place. You'll have girls all over if you can do it right.

I would say partying on Phi Phi is a bit like running game on a small university campus that happens to be located in the most beautiful place on Earth, with bars attached to them. Which means the key is to talk to every person you see on the island during the day, as you are guaranteed to run into these same people at night. You've already built that initial rapport so it's easy to throw a bucket in the face of someone you met earlier in the day and strike up a conversation. It becomes so easy, that it's perhaps the single best place in the world to bang hot, young Western women.

Though, I can't help but feel that Pho Phi is broken. Too many people, and little respect for the island as a whole. It rubbed me the wrong way that one of the most stunning islands in the world was subjected to day after day of reckless abandon.
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I went 13 years ago before the Tsunami and I promise you it was the most beautiful paradise I have ever seen. The island was cheap and there were atleast half the tourists we see today. I met a hippy Canadian girl on her own and we travelled together for 3 months after. Was one of the most memorable experiences of my life. I wanted to relive the dream 3 years ago and it was an outright travesty. All the beaches were utterly ruined and the luxury part of the island is now where the clubs line the beach that now more resembles the filthy full moon party beaches of Ko Pang Gang than what you will see in a google image search. It has totally lost it's alternative hippy vibe and is now an outright party holiday destination. Might as well go to Greece. Equally as many Europeans but with a few Russians and Eastern europeans thrown in for good measure.

(01-22-2013 05:21 PM)MaleDefined Wrote:  Great stuff. Spot on with my Phi Phi experience. While we're a bit older than the average age, I ran Phi Phi with one of my childhood friends for a couple of nights. High energy and muscles can definitely clean up this place. You'll have girls all over if you can do it right.

I would say partying on Phi Phi is a bit like running game on a small university campus that happens to be located in the most beautiful place on Earth, with bars attached to them. Which means the key is to talk to every person you see on the island during the day, as you are guaranteed to run into these same people at night. You've already built that initial rapport so it's easy to throw a bucket in the face of someone you met earlier in the day and strike up a conversation. It becomes so easy, that it's perhaps the single best place in the world to bang hot, young Western women.

Though, I can't help but feel that Pho Phi is broken. Too many people, and little respect for the island as a whole. It rubbed me the wrong way that one of the most stunning islands in the world was subjected to day after day of reckless abandon.
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Also, it just caught me looking back at this thread. Look at the first picture the OP puts up. Look at the dude in the background. That's your competition. Seriously.
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Now that is what I call a DATA SHEET! Good work fellas!
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