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Man, last weekend I went to a birthday celebration for a long-time buddy of mine I've known since 7th grade. He's been in an on and off relationship with this girl for now 11 years. He's had one-itis for this chic since he's known her. He says he loves her yet he's clearly not happy. They live together and he says he has to pay most the bills, he has to do all the cleaning and she's not pulling her own weight. Sounds like she just sort of does whatever she wants to do. She's one of those poster child feminist SWPL chics with a pair glasses like your stereotypical Jezebel reader.

The guy has been going through a lot of shit and it sounds like she's making it worse. I would've kicked her to the curb years ago. Love the guy but he's blue pill, liberal and beta. It's painful to sit there and watch what happens to guys I have known most my life. You want to help, but some people aren't yet ready to be unplugged from the matrix. I'm trying to think of a way I could slowly introduce him to red pill thinking without shocking his system.
02-24-2013 07:57 PM
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(02-24-2013 07:57 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  Man, last weekend I went to a birthday celebration for a long-time buddy of mine I've known since 7th grade. He's been in an on and off relationship with this girl for now 11 years. He's had one-itis for this chic since he's known her. He says he loves her yet he's clearly not happy. They live together and he says he has to pay most the bills, he has to do all the cleaning and she's not pulling her own weight. Sounds like she just sort of does whatever she wants to do. She's one of those poster child feminist SWPL chics with a pair glasses like your stereotypical Jezebel reader.

The guy has been going through a lot of shit and it sounds like she's making it worse. I would've kicked her to the curb years ago. Love the guy but he's blue pill, liberal and beta. It's painful to sit there and watch what happens to guys I have known most my life. You want to help, but some people aren't yet ready to be unplugged from the matrix. I'm trying to think of a way I could slowly introduce him to red pill thinking without shocking his system.

I think I'm younger than you, but I see so much of the same with my friends. You can't help. If you tried, you'd lose a friend unfortunately. I'm going through the same dilemma currently.

P.S I love speakeasy, we agree on so many posts it's untrue. Gay

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I think the biggest step to Red Pill truth. Is to kill off one-itis forever.

Once you have done that you are a free man.
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(02-24-2013 08:20 PM)cardguy Wrote:  I think the biggest step to Red Pill truth. Is to kill off one-itis forever.

Once you have done that you are a free man.

yeah that's one, it's hard cutting friends but over time you can make them into acquaintances, slowly though this will affect as you interact with less of the world you used to have and are just having interactions with women who let's be honest even when educated are like adorable little children/monkeys (as The Dictator says). I'm lucky i have 2 red pill companions and know a few more, but we are still our own men, sure we hang out but we do things our own way too. It takes to time to take comfort in living that sort of life and getting 'tuned' to it as such, where you are content with yourself and are not constantly looking for social interactions.

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Just came across this thread. I agree with what everyone has written here. The past month for me has been one disappointment after another. I haven't been laid and I cannot talk to my friends about anything that isn't inane. I can't voice my political opinions, particularly my opposition to democracy and particularly not in an American University where anything right of center is called 'fascist'. I've realized that I'm being isolated for thinking beyond the inane. An intelligent conversation nowadays is about what I saw in Reddit TIL. I really can't relate to anyone around me.

Come to think of it, I have maybe one or two 'friends'. Most of the guys I hang out with continuously stomp all over me and show no respect. I know that I sound like a complete loser but it looks like I will have to disengage with most of them in order to improve myself.

I was thinking about his last line 'Isolation is a small price to pay for a better future'. Looks like I may have to isolate myself and do my own thing now. I wish I could go Blue Pill again sometimes. I wish I hadn't discovered Roosh or the manosphere, but I realize that this is merely temporary folly. If it weren't for them, I wouldn't be half the man I am today (TBH, that isn't saying much). Once you take the red-pill, you can't go back to your fantasy matrix world, where all is well and you are doing the right thing. Maybe someday, I can look back at this post and smile knowing I did the right thing.

Its funny how no one, not your family, not your 'friends', not your co-workers ever told you the right thing. Funny how if I wasn't on an MBTI website 2 years ago and noticed Roosh, I would be happy in my existence, thinking I was successful. Indeed, ignorance is bliss.

Maybe I'm being a pussy right now. But if any other young guys are reading this, just know that you're not alone. Forging your own way is hard and emotionally wrecking but it sure as hell beats being pushed around, slaving away for someone else, keeping everything you think to yourself and jerking off to porn instead of banging a hot chick.
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I got lucky.

I got in the game with 2 dudes I met through a mutual friend who I knew for around a year(he didn't do pickup, he never got into it, but he never judged it). One of them already knew about pickup, the other had no clue but he was like "fuck it, this is probably my only chance to get pussy".

The three of us are best friends now.

In terms of my other good to best friends, I"m very careful who I reveal pickup to, and how much I reveal. This has worked fine for me. Its great because in Toronto I only have friends that support me 100 percent.
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(01-23-2014 07:24 PM)torontokid Wrote:  I got lucky.

I got in the game with 2 dudes I met through a mutual friend who I knew for around a year(he didn't do pickup, he never got into it, but he never judged it). One of them already knew about pickup, the other had no clue but he was like "fuck it, this is probably my only chance to get pussy".

The three of us are best friends now.

In terms of my other good to best friends, I"m very careful who I reveal pickup to, and how much I reveal. This has worked fine for me. Its great because in Toronto I only have friends that support me 100 percent.

That's sounds great torontokid. I'm aiming to have what you have a year from now - a crew of guys interested in pickup and self-improvement. Lucky or not, you are at a place where others strive to be.

Also, perhaps you were wise. I know I wasn't. I chose to hang out with people who don't have the makings of great men rather than with people who legitimately care about constant self-improvement and I am paying for it right now, while you are reaping the fruits of your past wisdom.

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You planted your tree years ago, I am planting it now. Thank you for the hope my friend.
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I've yet to meet anyone in person who is red pill. I have buddies who go out and slay women, but they have a lot things that women innately are attracted too (ie. athletes, first repsonders, good shape, etc.). I wouldn't call them red pill guys because they still get hooked up on girls, and are trying to make relationships work with women who they shouldn't be with. When they ask how I am with the ladies, and I tell them yeah, I've got multiple FB's, and I'm not worried about losing any of them because I can find another one, while I'm also looking to expand my roster, they are stunned. Maybe it's the behaviour in general, or maybe it's because I never did anything like that even a year and a half ago. Change, especially the radical sort, is scary for everyone.

I don't know how I would act in front of another guy with this mindset. I'm just glad the RVF exists so I can talk to some of you gents about such matters, and not be looked at like I have an arm growing out of my forehead. I really wish I had made the T.O. meetup last week. Damn flu...

I think it takes a lot guts to go against the status quo and do what's right for you. If you don't, then likely no one else will.
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(01-23-2014 07:24 PM)torontokid Wrote:  I got lucky.

I got in the game with 2 dudes I met through a mutual friend who I knew for around a year(he didn't do pickup, he never got into it, but he never judged it). One of them already knew about pickup, the other had no clue but he was like "fuck it, this is probably my only chance to get pussy".

The three of us are best friends now.

In terms of my other good to best friends, I"m very careful who I reveal pickup to, and how much I reveal. This has worked fine for me. Its great because in Toronto I only have friends that support me 100 percent.

That's awesome man. I went to a heavily alpha male school in Canada so I would like to think that most of my friends are 'red-pill' types but many of them aren't fully there.

I was once with some friends in London and we were talking about what we thought our greatest trait was and I said mine was my ability to think rationally. That kind of sums up 'red-pill' thinking for me: cut the bullshit, stop pretending to feel things and act in a way that isn't you, and go get what you want in life. Needless to say, they thought I was weird.

*Insert Jay Z 'On to the Next' Video*

One thing that really helped me solidify this was through backpacking solo. 100% the best thing I ever did was go through South East Asia alone. I was totally free, loved every moment of it, and returned a new man.
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What does it for me is I avoid all political/religious/feminism talk with any westerners and try to connect with them on a different level. It stays superficial but it can be light and fun. I make better friendships with latinos and africans, who agree with me on pretty much everything. Hell I can even have normal decent feminism conversations with latinas and african women without them going all harpy on me.
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Daddy, in my experience, Hispanic and Africans are more likely to follow common sense, other than the PC bullshit Caucasians do.
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(01-23-2014 07:38 PM)Frontenac Wrote:  I've yet to meet anyone in person who is red pill. I have buddies who go out and slay women, but they have a lot things that women innately are attracted too (ie. athletes, first repsonders, good shape, etc.). I wouldn't call them red pill guys because they still get hooked up on girls, and are trying to make relationships work with women who they shouldn't be with.

Sometimes a guys success is to his own detrmient. It takes a big fall to finally see things for what they are and to start getting the most out of life. Some guys are getting just enough and are just successful enough to never step back and see the forest for the trees.

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I have been reading about this stuff forever, since the early nineties when I was a kid. Its given me dozens of lays and the ability to single out a women and make her my girlfriend. Which unfortunately led 3 LTR's and former marriage too... Its led me to feel isolated on several occasions, even more so when I am drawn into a new social group.

I used to get lonely and I think a lot of that has to do with social media, we are replacing real interaction with friends with the satisfaction and FOMO relief we get from social media. Thats why this year for me is all about connecting in person, with real friends in person, despite where they are in the world. I dont want to debate with my friends, or hold them accountable for their beliefs, but maybe I can influence them through my lifestyle.

Additionally, the benefits of this 'aloneness' are underrepresented. I can do whatever I want, eat whatever I want, sleep how much I want, read/relax/exercise/game/drink/play guitar/travel .. .. .. Plus the biggest thing, I save money. I dont spend money, I dont argue and live with a mini-dictator, I feel free and relaxed. Enjoy the decline, or so they say, save your money, preserve your energy, and live the life YOU really want.
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It helps to know that no matter what you're always going to find that people are separated by their beliefs you won't find people that agree with you 100% in what you feel or even know to be true. A big part of why we want to be associated with like minded people is so that we can get what we want easier. It would be great if I had 10 friends who were red pill instead of the 2 that I have. Even better if the country you're in is red pill, maybe. For me part of taking the 'red pill' is a voluntary isolation. Can I be happy on my own? Can I live free of other people approving of how I live, not dependent on them for anything, able to leave at the drop of a hat? Can I control my money and my time completely? Can I have a greater share of control in what happens when dealing with the beautiful feminine women I prefer to spend my time with? Can I become a better person through all this? Almost everyone I am surrounded by has masters in some form or another; A god, a boss, a bitch, a father, a prison guard, a gang leader, a pimp etc. I don't. I'm on my own in this much of the time.

Thankfully we're here on this forum together as well, to assuage some of that separateness we get from the rest of the world. And we're not like most other forums, many of us have cash and can travel and can meet up and have a good fucking time to boot.
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I think one of the most important ways to approach this mindset/lifestyle is to be unapologetic at all times. Sure, 99.9 percent of the people that I meet start to think I'm nuts, sick, archaic, "ist" in some way, shape, or form, but I don't apologize for it. At the same time, they see me succeeding at the things that I do, whether it be picking up girls, fitness, work-related, overall positive outlook, while also responding to their criticism in a staunch, yet respectful manner. Sometimes very slowly, but other times very quickly, you start to see the expressions on their faces change a bit from annoyance or even outright hate to wonder..."how could a man with such (insert negative adjective) viewpoints be so successful at so many areas of his life?" While the vast majority of these people will never swallow the entire pill, it makes my daily interactions much more tolerable and helps to create acquaintances.

Another way I combat the isolationism may come off as sick, but it gets me through, nonetheless. Although I have gotten rid of probably 80 percent of my Facebook friends, I still have some who aren't "real" friends, but I keep around for comic relief. Seeing these men and women rapidly age, degrade, and put on the face that they are "totally killing!" life is very amusing. The men developing the extra chin and marrying the sorority princess who screwed half of Greek row, the women who have the baby...and keep the baby weight are REALLY making me jealous with the pictures from their golfing excursion from some all-inclusive resort in Aruba. Knowing that this is what the vast majority of society is, I'd have no problem stepping outside again.

As others have mentioned, meeting guys from the forum is always a great experience. It's like you already know all of the inside jokes as well as the gameplan.

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(01-23-2014 11:02 PM)Agent 47 Wrote:  Daddy, in my experience, Hispanic and Africans are more likely to follow common sense, other than the PC bullshit Caucasians do.

A lot of Hispanics/Latinos ARE Caucasian. It's a cultural term. If you said 'PC bullshit upper middle class white American people do", that'd be more accurate. Because white people in Argentina sure as hell aren't PC.

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"PC bullshit Caucasians do."

I don't like using the generalization argument, but thats a kind of wide swept one that fails to see the truth.

PC has roots in liberal areas of the country.

White people happen to be in positions of power, so you may feel like it's the white people that lack the common sense. But this is true with any liberal community.

If you go to more conservative areas of the country, you'll find attitudes are completely different .Besides the caucasians you refer to are in the Anglo speaking and Western countries. There are whites all over the world.

So your point is rather false.

It's more the media and culture that wants to control the public.
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I have a couple friends that I have introduced to RP ideas and such. Fairly tame ideas and such, but it's a start and they're willing ot listen.
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Remember the old adage, "It's lonely at the top". Besides, the friends you'll make from here on out will be of MUCH better quality, and they'll be the type that will inspire you to be a good friend towards them as well. Most people have "friends" merely out of convenience and having someone to simply do shit with;I know people who can't go out to eat unless it's with someone. These aren't quality friendships. Often these "friends" talk shit behind one another's back, yet they still hang out. In essence, you're trading in quantity for quality. Quality friendships are the ones you'll take the time to send an email or call on a sunday, not merely stay "connected" through facebook. And "quality" is what you get once you start living right.

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(02-24-2013 08:03 PM)Teedub Wrote:  
(02-24-2013 07:57 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  Man, last weekend I went to a birthday celebration for a long-time buddy of mine I've known since 7th grade. He's been in an on and off relationship with this girl for now 11 years. He's had one-itis for this chic since he's known her. He says he loves her yet he's clearly not happy. They live together and he says he has to pay most the bills, he has to do all the cleaning and she's not pulling her own weight. Sounds like she just sort of does whatever she wants to do. She's one of those poster child feminist SWPL chics with a pair glasses like your stereotypical Jezebel reader.

The guy has been going through a lot of shit and it sounds like she's making it worse. I would've kicked her to the curb years ago. Love the guy but he's blue pill, liberal and beta. It's painful to sit there and watch what happens to guys I have known most my life. You want to help, but some people aren't yet ready to be unplugged from the matrix. I'm trying to think of a way I could slowly introduce him to red pill thinking without shocking his system.

I think I'm younger than you, but I see so much of the same with my friends. You can't help. If you tried, you'd lose a friend unfortunately. I'm going through the same dilemma currently.

P.S I love speakeasy, we agree on so many posts it's untrue. Gay

You can help. You don't loose them necesarily and even if you do, when one door closes another one opens.
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