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Abortion
Reading through player forums and essays it seems that a girl's willingness to have an abortion is seen as a positive ( single moms are dangerous for this reason, they already display a willingness to have someone else's kids) since she is unlikely to saddle you with child support in the event of a pregnancy. Have any of you guys ever had this happen and if so how did it change relationship/ fwb dynamics?
I had a fairly unsavory experience a few years back and it definitely changed how we felt about each other and even her self- image ( I can write up the story if there is interest).
I don't want this to be a discussion about the rights and wrongs of abortions but would be interested in hearing experiences and fallouts.
(This post was last modified: 02-15-2013 08:46 AM by Asaxon.)
02-15-2013 08:45 AM
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RE: Abortion
(02-15-2013 08:45 AM)Asaxon Wrote:  Reading through player forums and essays it seems that a girl's willingness to have an abortion is seen as a positive ( single moms are dangerous for this reason, they already display a willingness to have someone else's kids) since she is unlikely to saddle you with child support in the event of a pregnancy. Have any of you guys ever had this happen and if so how did it change relationship/ fwb dynamics?
I had a fairly unsavory experience a few years back and it definitely changed how we felt about each other and even her self- image ( I can write up the story if there is interest).
I don't want this to be a discussion about the rights and wrongs of abortions but would be interested in hearing experiences and fallouts.

It's rather pointless to think about how abortion influences your mutual future relationship, because abortions are for parents who want no mutual future relationships.

I mean it must be rare for people to abort and then marry. And it is stupid.
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02-15-2013 09:05 AM
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RE: Abortion
(02-15-2013 09:05 AM)Mage Wrote:  
(02-15-2013 08:45 AM)Asaxon Wrote:  Reading through player forums and essays it seems that a girl's willingness to have an abortion is seen as a positive ( single moms are dangerous for this reason, they already display a willingness to have someone else's kids) since she is unlikely to saddle you with child support in the event of a pregnancy. Have any of you guys ever had this happen and if so how did it change relationship/ fwb dynamics?
I had a fairly unsavory experience a few years back and it definitely changed how we felt about each other and even her self- image ( I can write up the story if there is interest).
I don't want this to be a discussion about the rights and wrongs of abortions but would be interested in hearing experiences and fallouts.

It's rather pointless to think about how abortion influences your mutual future relationship, because abortions are for parents who want no mutual future relationships.

I mean it must be rare for people to abort and then marry. And it is stupid.

Not sure if serious... I know married and unmarried couples who had abortions for a multitude of reasons.
02-15-2013 09:13 AM
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RE: Abortion
(02-15-2013 09:13 AM)Asaxon Wrote:  
(02-15-2013 09:05 AM)Mage Wrote:  
(02-15-2013 08:45 AM)Asaxon Wrote:  Reading through player forums and essays it seems that a girl's willingness to have an abortion is seen as a positive ( single moms are dangerous for this reason, they already display a willingness to have someone else's kids) since she is unlikely to saddle you with child support in the event of a pregnancy. Have any of you guys ever had this happen and if so how did it change relationship/ fwb dynamics?
I had a fairly unsavory experience a few years back and it definitely changed how we felt about each other and even her self- image ( I can write up the story if there is interest).
I don't want this to be a discussion about the rights and wrongs of abortions but would be interested in hearing experiences and fallouts.

It's rather pointless to think about how abortion influences your mutual future relationship, because abortions are for parents who want no mutual future relationships.

I mean it must be rare for people to abort and then marry. And it is stupid.

Not sure if serious... I know married and unmarried couples who had abortions for a multitude of reasons.

and it's almost always an issue for them
02-15-2013 09:28 AM
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RE: Abortion
(02-15-2013 09:13 AM)Asaxon Wrote:  
(02-15-2013 09:05 AM)Mage Wrote:  
(02-15-2013 08:45 AM)Asaxon Wrote:  Reading through player forums and essays it seems that a girl's willingness to have an abortion is seen as a positive ( single moms are dangerous for this reason, they already display a willingness to have someone else's kids) since she is unlikely to saddle you with child support in the event of a pregnancy. Have any of you guys ever had this happen and if so how did it change relationship/ fwb dynamics?
I had a fairly unsavory experience a few years back and it definitely changed how we felt about each other and even her self- image ( I can write up the story if there is interest).
I don't want this to be a discussion about the rights and wrongs of abortions but would be interested in hearing experiences and fallouts.

It's rather pointless to think about how abortion influences your mutual future relationship, because abortions are for parents who want no mutual future relationships.

I mean it must be rare for people to abort and then marry. And it is stupid.

Not sure if serious... I know married and unmarried couples who had abortions for a multitude of reasons.

Unless it is for health reasons like the woman dieing if giving birth it is just stupid.

The only valid reason for a man to marry is if you want children enough to take the risk. And aborting them makes no sense in that case. Also the women who have had abortion are very likely to have trouble conceiving later.

And why would you marry a woman who is cold enough to kill her own child?

Masses do a lot of stupid things.
02-15-2013 09:34 AM
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RE: Abortion
Well, I am glad you are intelligent enough to categorically declare everyone stupid who commits an act you do not agree with for reasons you might not even know. Last time I checked one of the hallmarks of stupidity was thinking in rigid black-white absolutes without differentiation.
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02-15-2013 09:44 AM
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RE: Abortion
(02-15-2013 09:44 AM)Asaxon Wrote:  Well, I am glad you are intelligent enough to categorically declare everyone stupid who commits an act you do not agree with for reasons you might not even know.

So whats your smartass reason to kill an innocent baby you made with your wife you married for pure love?
02-15-2013 09:47 AM
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I am not married nor did I have a child aborted. There are unmarried couples who have abortions due to accidental pregnancies though and I could conjure up dozens of scenarios where it would make sense. Not the point of this thread though as stated above.
02-15-2013 10:29 AM
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Commanded LTR to terminate four or five years ago, no regrets or ramifications on either side. Still together, not married, no kids, have dogs though.
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02-15-2013 12:34 PM
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RE: Abortion
(02-15-2013 10:29 AM)Asaxon Wrote:  I am not married nor did I have a child aborted. There are unmarried couples who have abortions due to accidental pregnancies though and I could conjure up dozens of scenarios where it would make sense. Not the point of this thread though as stated above.

Well that's the point - unmaried "couples". Ones where both parties can go their way any time they want and no one else cares.

What's the point of caring about such a relationship? Wherther abortion left negative consequences or not.

It seems that you got angry because you don't realize how insignificant such an arrangement is. You are an egoist who uses that women for all you can squeese out of her and so does she, just that she is losing and got her body mutilated. Thats all. Just don't tell me you call this grothesque arrangement ''love". That would truly be pathetic.
02-15-2013 02:02 PM
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RE: Abortion
(02-15-2013 09:34 AM)Mage Wrote:  
(02-15-2013 09:13 AM)Asaxon Wrote:  
(02-15-2013 09:05 AM)Mage Wrote:  
(02-15-2013 08:45 AM)Asaxon Wrote:  Reading through player forums and essays it seems that a girl's willingness to have an abortion is seen as a positive ( single moms are dangerous for this reason, they already display a willingness to have someone else's kids) since she is unlikely to saddle you with child support in the event of a pregnancy. Have any of you guys ever had this happen and if so how did it change relationship/ fwb dynamics?
I had a fairly unsavory experience a few years back and it definitely changed how we felt about each other and even her self- image ( I can write up the story if there is interest).
I don't want this to be a discussion about the rights and wrongs of abortions but would be interested in hearing experiences and fallouts.

It's rather pointless to think about how abortion influences your mutual future relationship, because abortions are for parents who want no mutual future relationships.

I mean it must be rare for people to abort and then marry. And it is stupid.

Not sure if serious... I know married and unmarried couples who had abortions for a multitude of reasons.

Unless it is for health reasons like the woman dieing if giving birth it is just stupid.

The only valid reason for a man to marry is if you want children enough to take the risk. And aborting them makes no sense in that case. Also the women who have had abortion are very likely to have trouble conceiving later.

And why would you marry a woman who is cold enough to kill her own child?

Masses do a lot of stupid things.

Because she has a great body?Because she can cook well? Because she does not bother if i stay out late?Because she killed "our own child" therefore saving me a lot of money/trouble? I'm not thinking about getting married in the next 10 years,but i am sure that i would not give up a quality woman just because she had an abortion.Yes,i'm a bad guy,i don't love children Rolleyes
02-15-2013 04:10 PM
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RE: Abortion
Regardless of wether or not abortion is a good or bad thing, in some moral sense, I've come to accept that it's simply out of my control. From a practical standpoint the woman can do whatever she wants. A woman who is nominally against abortion might decide that she's just not ready or doesn't feel right about me and gets one. Or a woman who is all about it and doesn't want kids might decide once she gets pregnant that she really does want to be a mother. There's just no way to know ahead of time.

So that said, I only fuck women I wouldn't mind having a child with. As soon as a realize I definitely do not want to have a kid with someone I stop fucking them. That doesn't preclude one night stands. I think on average most women probably make pretty good mothers. It's in their DNA. I'm old enough and make enough money that if I got a girl pregnant I'd probably be happy about it. Thank god for paternity testing.
02-15-2013 04:32 PM
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RE: Abortion
(02-15-2013 02:02 PM)Mage Wrote:  
(02-15-2013 10:29 AM)Asaxon Wrote:  I am not married nor did I have a child aborted. There are unmarried couples who have abortions due to accidental pregnancies though and I could conjure up dozens of scenarios where it would make sense. Not the point of this thread though as stated above.

Well that's the point - unmaried "couples". Ones where both parties can go their way any time they want and no one else cares.

What's the point of caring about such a relationship? Wherther abortion left negative consequences or not.

It seems that you got angry because you don't realize how insignificant such an arrangement is. You are an egoist who uses that women for all you can squeese out of her and so does she, just that she is losing and got her body mutilated. Thats all. Just don't tell me you call this grothesque arrangement ''love". That would truly be pathetic.

Twilight zone! Why are you on this forum if you consider non-marriage relations "stupid"? One should only care about "significant relationships" aka marriage? Women get used and "lose" unless one mans up and marries them? I assume you are trolling/ being sarcastic here.
02-15-2013 08:30 PM
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RE: Abortion
I can't see how you could not view a potential human being as anything but a human being. A sleeping baby is as helpless as a fetus in the womb. Only a few months in an arbitrary calender seperate the two.

If you're old enough to have sex, you're old enough to deal with the consequences.

Like everyone else, I'm a big fan of contraception because I can act with impunity. Still, I make a point to raw-dog every girl and if she asks "don't come in me" I make sure to hold a few extra minutes so I smite that womb with enough of my man-chowder to kill a small animal. Fuck her and her loose ways. Contraception is good for me. Bad for society.

I won't presume to judge people who choose abortion over having the child even if they just give it away immediately. But denying it's a human is the ultimate rationalization hamster.

My mother aborted her first child because it came along at a time that just didn't fit in with her schedule or my Dad's. It's the rationalization hamster on steroids. I cna't see this baby, it's not very big, looks like a fish, hence it's not real, it's OK to kill it.

Once in favor of abortion you become in favor of a host of eugenics, which I guess is fair, but I have to stand with the Catholic Church on that one. That's about the worst philosophy humans have come up with yet.

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02-16-2013 12:20 PM
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