Post: #1

Anyone else following this? Matt wrote a really over-the-top satirical article about how to get away with rape. I would link to it but his site's been taken down, possibly by haters. The article blew up on twitter, with many people telling him he should die, be assraped by Satan, etc. Now some of the Anonymous crew are threatening him. He's retweeting everything thrown at him at the moment:

https://twitter.com/realmattforney

Post: #2

Is that bad?

Post: #3

Anonymous is on him: https://twitter.com/Anonuk7/status/305137066633728000

It seems like they are turning into a white knight organization. I remember when they got on Hunter Moore recently for his plan to open a new revenge porn site.

Post: #4

Looks like he will take down his article--the fem pressure got to him. He needs the RVF to have his back. But he should be more careful about what he writes--he should know it would get major backlash.

Post: #5

For that kind of article, you really need a type of "free speech" hosting service. Hosting agreements say you can't promote "illegal" activity, and even though it's satire, that fact will be lost on the manager of the hosting company once those complaints come rolling in. No host wants to defend a guy who is "promoting" rape.

Post: #6

His apology is up. I thought he might go nuclear troll and post rape porn or something, but, it's legit, and I think a classy and well-written way to handle it:

http://mattforney.com/2013/02/22/officia...t-article/

Post: #7

The feminists win yet again, great.

Post: #8

(02-22-2013 10:01 PM)Roosh Wrote:  The feminists win yet again, great.

My thoughts exactly.

Post: #9

(02-22-2013 09:31 PM)Roosh Wrote:  Anonymous is on him: https://twitter.com/Anonuk7/status/305137066633728000

It seems like they are turning into a white knight organization. I remember when they got on Hunter Moore recently for his plan to open a new revenge porn site.

Anonymous isn't really the same thing it used to be. Once they started trolling the church of scientology, they went mainstream. This attracted a ton of new members, if you wanna call them that, who confused the idea of pissing people off for fun as activism. Most of the people who claim to be part of Anonymous now completely forget the past, like trolling dead peoples family members on facebook, or hacking a hip-hop site and replacing it with racial slurs. If anything 4chan is still anti-feminist, just browse /b/ for more than 15 seconds.

More info here: https://encyclopediadramatica.se/Anonymous

Post: #10

(02-22-2013 10:01 PM)Roosh Wrote:  The feminists win yet again, great.

See the exchange between him and them (the feminists and anon) on Twitter.

Sad. Let this incident be a reminder that neither group cares about freedom of speech.

Fucking fascist pigs.

Post: #11

Thanks for the support, guys.

For the record, Anonymous did pull off a DDoS attack on my blog. I couldn't care less if they attacked me and me alone (the address/phone number that feminist trolls got off my domain's WHOIS profile are both out of date, the former by about six years), but they did me in when they announced that they were going to dox and harass my family members. They actually gave me the names of my parents and my little sister (I have two sisters, they missed one).

When I began blogging under my real name, I promised myself that I would keep my family as far away from my activities as possible. They read and know about my blog (including the rape article... they didn't care), and they're relatively private people, but I didn't want to risk them getting harassed over this (especially my parents, they both work in highly-PC environments). This wasn't a hill worth dying on.

Post: #12

Still most prescient:

"Hitchens on Free Speech"




To quote from the aforementioned video:

"If all in society were agreed on the truth and beauty and value of one proposition, all except one person, it would be most important, in fact it would become even more important, that the one heretic be heard; because we would all still benefit from perhaps his outrageous or appalling view."

"Freedom of speech is meaningless unless it means the freedom of the person who thinks differently."

Post: #13

I was observing the whole trainwreck live on Twitter. It's a shame the Anonytwats finally managed to blackmail him into submission.

Anyway you can still read his article here which was preserved by a Roosh hater ironically enough: [removed]

Post: #14

I'm not surprised by the feminist avalanche of hate, but to see Anonymous joining in is pathetic. These people are supposed to be standing up for free speech.

Post: #15

(02-22-2013 10:25 PM)The Pumpkin King Wrote:  

(02-22-2013 09:31 PM)Roosh Wrote:  Anonymous is on him: https://twitter.com/Anonuk7/status/305137066633728000

It seems like they are turning into a white knight organization. I remember when they got on Hunter Moore recently for his plan to open a new revenge porn site.

Anonymous isn't really the same thing it used to be. Once they started trolling the church of scientology, they went mainstream. This attracted a ton of new members, if you wanna call them that, who confused the idea of pissing people off for fun as activism. Most of the people who claim to be part of Anonymous now completely forget the past, like trolling dead peoples family members on facebook, or hacking a hip-hop site and replacing it with racial slurs. If anything 4chan is still anti-feminist, just browse /b/ for more than 15 seconds.

More info here: https://encyclopediadramatica.se/Anonymous

Every fag with a Guy Fawks mask today thinks he's Anonymous nowadays. Having Anonymous join femini-cunts shows how far it broke from its 4chan roots. Especially since I believe 4chan were the ones who came up with practice of calling rape surprise sex. "Everyone loves surprises and everyone loves sex! Why wouldn't you want surprise sex on your bday?"

Post: #16

(02-23-2013 03:15 AM)kolovrat Wrote:  I was observing the whole trainwreck live on Twitter. It's a shame the Anonytwats finally managed to blackmail him into submission.

Anyway you can still read his article here which was preserved by a Roosh hater ironically enough: [removed]

Wait, Roosh has a site dedicated to hating him?

WOW

WIA

Post: #17

Hey Matt, what are you apologizing for? Tell each and every single one of them to fuck off. If you aren't going to stand up for what you believe in, joke or not, you may as well not even have a blog.

Post: #18

As for Anonymous, what I would do is find out who one particular member of them is who has been harassing you, and make their life a living hell with a lawyer. You can't do this to all of them, but you can do it to one of them. Once the others see that, they'll back off.

Post: #19

Esperar, I think that's being a bit harsh, the guy had his family threatened. It's very brave blogging like he does using your real name, especially considering what he writes about. Ditto Roosh.

Post: #20

On my personal facebook page I've posted about how chicks are a bunch of sluts when they think no one is looking. I had IRL friends get pissed at me. I even argued with one. I stood up for what I said, and even posted evidence for my claims. It has made me a bit unpopular with certain people, but if I didn't stand up for what I believe in, why even have an opinion?

Post: #21

Matt, if you haven't seen it, check out this post: Of Triggering and Triggered, Part 4 (The whole series is good, if long)

Quote:Offence Trolling

A ‘troll’ is a person who exposes others to offensive or inflammatory material in order to produce an emotional response generally in order to sabotage or prevent conversation. While trolling is typically thought of as a hostile action, explicitly calculated to offend the trolled party, there is a commonly ignored but exceedingly widely practiced form of trolling which functions quite differently. This sort of trolling – which I term ‘offence-trolling’ – involves the trolling of one’s own community. Like other forms of trolls, offence trolls use material calculated to be offensive and inflammatory in order to provoke an emotional reaction and to derail debate. However, the offence-troll does not seek personally to offend their community, but rather purposefully seeks to offend and provoke an emotional reaction in their community by means of the sharing or reporting of the words or actions of another party.

The offence-troll will typically take an extreme or ill-worded statement of their opponents, wrench it from context, put the worst possible construction on it, and present it to an audience carefully primed to take extreme offence to it. The emotional reaction, offence, and outrage can then be leveraged against the opposition, helping to push them out of the debate, and relative to the wider society, capitalizing on the offence to gain greater support and concessions. While the offence-troll may claim to desire to protect the weak and sensitive from offence, their real goal is to use the offence that results when the weak and sensitive are exposed to sharp, muscular, and combative discourse to get their way. The goal of the offence-troll is to ‘trigger’ others and thereby to accumulate the social capital of offence.

Post: #22

(02-23-2013 10:11 AM)esperar Wrote:  On my personal facebook page I've posted about how chicks are a bunch of sluts when they think no one is looking. I had IRL friends get pissed at me. I even argued with one. I stood up for what I said, and even posted evidence for my claims. It has made me a bit unpopular with certain people, but if I didn't stand up for what I believe in, why even have an opinion?

There is such a thing as diplomacy and knowing when to say something and not say something as well as how to present it so it is not rejected out of hand. You may have stated your opinion but if it causes people to hate you and automatically dismiss your ideas, have you really done any good?

What I do with my guy friends who are in relationships is basically have them push their girlfriends up against a wall and tell them they are sexy. They see the girls reaction to this and it puts a small crack in their worldview, they start to question other things about how they see women and the world. From there you can slowly introduce them to more red pill topics and eventually have them read some of the better mansphere writers(heartiste, etc).

Girls don't have a logically coherent worldview. They are not as concerned about their beliefs being internally consistent and will not care about the dissonance or even acknowledge it. A different approach is required. If you can get them on a healthy, nutrient rich diet, an exercise program that involves heavy compound lifts and a daily meditation routine they will feel very good and the meditation will deprogram their minds from the feminist indoctrination. Also being a strong charismatic man will make them want to have babies and be more traditional and nurturing.

Post: #23

(02-22-2013 09:31 PM)Roosh Wrote:  Anonymous is on him: https://twitter.com/Anonuk7/status/305137066633728000

It seems like they are turning into a white knight organization. I remember when they got on Hunter Moore recently for his plan to open a new revenge porn site.

For his plan to reopen a site that they masturbate to.

They are not white knighting, they just do it for the media attention, they are trying to establish themselves as a "good" organization. And attacking someone who just recently got negative media attention for a rape article is a perfect target for that.

Nothing personal, just business.

Post: #24

I read the original article and don't see how it was any different from some of the skits on the old National Lampoon or Monty Python comedy records ("And now the sound of John Denver being strangled!").

Taboos in society change. Back in the '60s, insulting religion got your records burned. Now you get claps on the back for insulting religion, but rape is apparently the sacred cow. What troubles me is that people don't see all of this as transient and think to stick up for the larger issue of freedom of speech.

I've been insulted by Forney too. And National Lampoon. And lots of comedians. So what? That's kind of the point of the freedom we get in the west, right? I'm more offended by those who squelch freedom of speech. Their efforts would be better spent elsewhere...perhaps helping the ailing soldiers who come back from foreign lands in pieces while supposedly defending our freedoms.

Post: #25

I admire all you blokes for writing under your real name but that is a luxury I will never ever take.