I'm Touring The United States! Starting in June, I'm conducting private events in 23 American cities. Click here for full details.

Post Reply 
The NBA Thread
Author Message
eradicator Online
Innovative Casanova
*******
Gold Member

Posts: 6,048
Joined: May 2013
Reputation: 40
Post: #5876
RE: The NBA Thread
Right, even if they get a number one or 2 seed, they have to face a dangerous Mavericks or Spurs team, then the warriors or lakers or nuggets, then in the western conference finals the warriors, lakers, nuggets, then in the finals the bucks or 76ers or nets (if Durant comes back for the playoffs) or Celtics .

This is actually one of the most interesting seasons the nba has had in years because it is so wide open. I’d say the clippers should be favorites but it is certainly not a done deal, I wouldn’t be surprised if any of the ten teams I just mentioned won the championship


Quote: The Clippers are much better on paper than any Eastern Conference team.

Couple of things, let’s see how healthy all of these teams are in April and May. Let’s see is the 76ers young talent continue to improve. You honestly don’t think the Bucks are loaded? They are legit contenders.

It wouldn’t shock me to see the 76ers or Celtics improve over last year( maybe Gordon Hayward actually puts together a healthy season)

Team yoga pants
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pla...FO1O020uyw
(This post was last modified: 07-06-2019 03:28 PM by eradicator.)
07-06-2019 03:16 PM
Find all posts by this user Like Post Quote this message in a reply
jcrew247 Offline
Chubby Chaser
**

Posts: 437
Joined: May 2016
Reputation: 1
Post: #5877
RE: The NBA Thread
(07-06-2019 02:43 PM)Brosemite Wrote:  
(07-06-2019 08:32 AM)eradicator Wrote:  Well I’m not going to predict injuries for the clippers, but they will still have to win against 3 good teams in the first 3 rounds against the likes of the Jazz, lakers, warriors rockets, nuggets and then face a loaded Celtics/ 76ers//bucks team in the finals.

If they end up not matching up well with one of those teams they could simply lose

Last time Kawahi got through the West, he had Duncan, Ginobli, Parker, Splitter, Diaw, Mills, Green, Belinelli, etc.

Can't discount a Clippers team that overachieved with the rebuilding roster they had but a possible lack of depth & gimpy Paul George within their roster could make it difficult in a more packed Western Conference.

Yeah this is a big risk for the Clippers esp giving up 5 of the next 1st round picks. PG is an injury risk and so is Kawhi. So there is no guarantee that they will make it through a full season and the playoffs. PG was even hurt during the 2nd half of last season. I guess the Clippers will have to see how their role players respond with less load and double teams.

The Lakers are also older and injury prone with Lebron and AD. And I'm wondering if Kawhi dislikes Lebron or playing with Lebron or the new coach Vogel. He probably didn't want lebron in his face during losses. I still sort of expect the Clippers to move to Seattle once they get the arena finished remodeling for the NHL team. So I guess Ballmer figures he will try to win a championship now, then tank and move the team to Seattle.
07-06-2019 03:27 PM
Find all posts by this user Like Post Quote this message in a reply
[-] The following 1 user Likes jcrew247's post:
Brosemite
zoom Offline
Wingman
***
Gold Member

Posts: 690
Joined: Nov 2010
Reputation: 14
Post: #5878
RE: The NBA Thread
(07-06-2019 03:16 PM)eradicator Wrote:  Couple of things, let’s see how healthy all of these teams are in April and May. Let’s see is the 76ers young talent continue to improve. You honestly don’t think the Bucks are loaded? They are legit contenders.

I think if the 76ers mature and become more professional then they should win the East. I don't think the Bucks are loaded and Giannis is overrated.
07-06-2019 03:42 PM
Find all posts by this user Like Post Quote this message in a reply
eradicator Online
Innovative Casanova
*******
Gold Member

Posts: 6,048
Joined: May 2013
Reputation: 40
Post: #5879
RE: The NBA Thread
(07-06-2019 03:42 PM)zoom Wrote:  
(07-06-2019 03:16 PM)eradicator Wrote:  Couple of things, let’s see how healthy all of these teams are in April and May. Let’s see is the 76ers young talent continue to improve. You honestly don’t think the Bucks are loaded? They are legit contenders.

I think if the 76ers mature and become more professional then they should win the East. I don't think the Bucks are loaded and Giannis is overrated.

Are Kevin Durant and Kyrie Irving over rated?

Team yoga pants
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pla...FO1O020uyw
07-06-2019 04:30 PM
Find all posts by this user Like Post Quote this message in a reply
zoom Offline
Wingman
***
Gold Member

Posts: 690
Joined: Nov 2010
Reputation: 14
Post: #5880
RE: The NBA Thread
(07-06-2019 04:30 PM)eradicator Wrote:  
(07-06-2019 03:42 PM)zoom Wrote:  
(07-06-2019 03:16 PM)eradicator Wrote:  Couple of things, let’s see how healthy all of these teams are in April and May. Let’s see is the 76ers young talent continue to improve. You honestly don’t think the Bucks are loaded? They are legit contenders.

I think if the 76ers mature and become more professional then they should win the East. I don't think the Bucks are loaded and Giannis is overrated.

Are Kevin Durant and Kyrie Irving over rated?

No, those guys can actually shoot.
07-06-2019 04:42 PM
Find all posts by this user Like Post Quote this message in a reply
SilentOne Offline
Game Denialist

Posts: 63
Joined: May 2019
Reputation: 1
Post: #5881
RE: The NBA Thread
(07-06-2019 03:27 PM)jcrew247 Wrote:  Yeah this is a big risk for the Clippers esp giving up 5 of the next 1st round picks. PG is an injury risk and so is Kawhi. So there is no guarantee that they will make it through a full season and the playoffs. PG was even hurt during the 2nd half of last season. I guess the Clippers will have to see how their role players respond with less load and double teams.

Big Risk? Both of these guys always wanted to play in LA. They plan to stay there unlike Toronto's one year pickup. Now that was a high risk/high reward deal which paid out.

This is a low risk/high reward deal. When you got arguably the best player and a top 5 small forward joining your squad, who cares about 5 unproven 1st round draft picks lol. Clippers are now relevant with kawhi there.
07-06-2019 05:13 PM
Find all posts by this user Like Post Quote this message in a reply
[-] The following 2 users Like SilentOne's post:
Brosemite, eradicator
Repo Online
International Playboy
******

Posts: 3,242
Joined: Feb 2015
Reputation: 23
Post: #5882
RE: The NBA Thread
Yeah you have to think of it as all those picks netting both Kawhi and PG, because Kawhi wasnt coming if they couldnt get him. So is PG by himself worth all those picks, probably not, but for both of them it definately is.
07-06-2019 05:19 PM
Find all posts by this user Like Post Quote this message in a reply
[-] The following 2 users Like Repo's post:
zoom, Brosemite
SeaFM Offline
Wingman
***

Posts: 633
Joined: Jan 2018
Reputation: 1
Post: #5883
RE: The NBA Thread
As a bandwagon Raptors fan, I feel a bit let down by Kawhi leaving. I really thought he was staying. Especially after Jalen Rose said so the other day.

I really don’t get all the love he’s getting on social media from Raptors fans.

He’s dead to me as of this morning. I won’t bash the guy but I’m not going to send well wishes and thank you’s and all the other nonsense I’ve seen all day.

It’s like a girlfriend dumping you. No contact all the way.
07-06-2019 05:22 PM
Find all posts by this user Like Post Quote this message in a reply
Repo Online
International Playboy
******

Posts: 3,242
Joined: Feb 2015
Reputation: 23
Post: #5884
RE: The NBA Thread
He literally said before the trade he wanted to be in LA. The Raptors knew this was a huge risk so I dont think he let anyone down. He played his heart out while he was there, compared to AD who punked out and stop trying.
07-06-2019 05:27 PM
Find all posts by this user Like Post Quote this message in a reply
[-] The following 2 users Like Repo's post:
zoom, eradicator
jcrew247 Offline
Chubby Chaser
**

Posts: 437
Joined: May 2016
Reputation: 1
Post: #5885
RE: The NBA Thread
(07-06-2019 05:13 PM)SilentOne Wrote:  
(07-06-2019 03:27 PM)jcrew247 Wrote:  Yeah this is a big risk for the Clippers esp giving up 5 of the next 1st round picks. PG is an injury risk and so is Kawhi. So there is no guarantee that they will make it through a full season and the playoffs. PG was even hurt during the 2nd half of last season. I guess the Clippers will have to see how their role players respond with less load and double teams.

Big Risk? Both of these guys always wanted to play in LA. They plan to stay there unlike Toronto's one year pickup. Now that was a high risk/high reward deal which paid out.

This is a low risk/high reward deal. When you got arguably the best player and a top 5 small forward joining your squad, who cares about 5 unproven 1st round draft picks lol. Clippers are now relevant with kawhi there.

They are both Big Injury Risk. PG has shoulder issues and KL has quad issues. Would not surprise me if both spend more than 20 days on DL next year and/or miss playoffs. KL got lucky in his walk year to stay healthy enough for the playoffs, but I wonder how much incentive he has to play hurt once he has the comfortable 4 year contract.
07-06-2019 05:51 PM
Find all posts by this user Like Post Quote this message in a reply
SilentOne Offline
Game Denialist

Posts: 63
Joined: May 2019
Reputation: 1
Post: #5886
RE: The NBA Thread
jcrew247

The Clippers are only relevant because of Kawhi. The Clippers had 1st round draft picks year after year... and remained irrelevant year after year.

SeaFM

You have your right to hate whomever. Although I think its a bit silly since he never wanted to be there in the 1st place, he was sent there involuntarily. He wants to be with his family back at home in LA.

Remember you guys are champions only because of him.
07-06-2019 06:15 PM
Find all posts by this user Like Post Quote this message in a reply
[-] The following 1 user Likes SilentOne's post:
zoom
Cr33pin Offline
Innovative Casanova
*******
Gold Member

Posts: 7,385
Joined: Nov 2011
Reputation: 181
Post: #5887
Rainbow RE: The NBA Thread
Boogie Cousins and Rondo to LA

Bruising cervix since 96
#TeamBeard
(This post was last modified: 07-06-2019 06:48 PM by Cr33pin.)
07-06-2019 06:46 PM
Find all posts by this user Like Post Quote this message in a reply
Repo Online
International Playboy
******

Posts: 3,242
Joined: Feb 2015
Reputation: 23
Post: #5888
RE: The NBA Thread
Where will Lance -make-em-dance end up though? I need to see him on the Clippers irritating Lebron again.
07-06-2019 10:03 PM
Find all posts by this user Like Post Quote this message in a reply
Brosemite Offline
True Player
*****
Gold Member

Posts: 2,181
Joined: Nov 2012
Reputation: 85
Post: #5889
RE: The NBA Thread
(07-06-2019 03:42 PM)zoom Wrote:  I think if the 76ers mature and become more professional then they should win the East. I don't think the Bucks are loaded and Giannis is overrated.

Wouldn't necessarily say that Giannis is overrated but the Bucks however are indeed not the deepest team.

As talented as Giannis is, it's extremely hard to revolve a team around an old school power forward in the modern NBA.

The last time a team won the NBA Championship with a true old school power forward as the main focal point of a team (especially offensively) was the 2007 Spurs with Tim Duncan.......

Yes Dirk Nowitzki was able to win a ring in 2011 as the main focal point of the Mavericks offense but he was such a unique specimen that possessed terrific stretch 4 capabilities on the perimeter on top of being an elite scorer on the inside as well.

And yes...the Spurs won in 2014 as Duncan got his 5th ring despite being past his prime; the main focal point of that offense wasn't so much just Kawahi but just a really damn good balanced offense where everybody was equally responsible for terrific production.

yb13
(This post was last modified: 07-06-2019 11:10 PM by Brosemite.)
07-06-2019 11:07 PM
Find all posts by this user Like Post Quote this message in a reply
[-] The following 2 users Like Brosemite's post:
eradicator, zoom
eradicator Online
Innovative Casanova
*******
Gold Member

Posts: 6,048
Joined: May 2013
Reputation: 40
Post: #5890
RE: The NBA Thread
The warriors still don't have a starting small forward. Unless I guess it's Glenn Robinson III or some sort of committee. Losing Iguodala hurts their defense like crazy.

Rondo isn't a good starting point guard at this point in his career, he is a 14 year vet and well past his prime and it showed last year, he can't defend and can't score the way he used to.

The Lakers made some good moves in general getting Danny Green and Demarcus Cousins(but he doesn't play defense anymore and is constantly getting worked by any pick and roll).

They are still old.

Team yoga pants
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pla...FO1O020uyw
(This post was last modified: 07-06-2019 11:52 PM by eradicator.)
07-06-2019 11:23 PM
Find all posts by this user Like Post Quote this message in a reply
Rotten Offline
Beta Orbiter
*

Posts: 139
Joined: Dec 2016
Reputation: 2
Post: #5891
RE: The NBA Thread
"Lebron is the point guard," is a great strategy in video games. Surround him with tall shooters and you have a really good cheesy video game strategy.

But, when the Heat asked him to run the point his first year it failed spectacularly. Lebron didn't get as many good looks, and defenses could key in on him, even with Wade as a second ball handler. He was a turnover machine as a point guard.

Ignore the press. Those guys that the Lakers just signed will run the point for the Lakers the vast majority of the time.
07-10-2019 02:15 PM
Find all posts by this user Like Post Quote this message in a reply
[-] The following 1 user Likes Rotten's post:
Brosemite
jcrew247 Offline
Chubby Chaser
**

Posts: 437
Joined: May 2016
Reputation: 1
Post: #5892
RE: The NBA Thread
(07-10-2019 02:15 PM)Rotten Wrote:  "Lebron is the point guard," is a great strategy in video games. Surround him with tall shooters and you have a really good cheesy video game strategy.

But, when the Heat asked him to run the point his first year it failed spectacularly. Lebron didn't get as many good looks, and defenses could key in on him, even with Wade as a second ball handler. He was a turnover machine as a point guard.

Ignore the press. Those guys that the Lakers just signed will run the point for the Lakers the vast majority of the time.

Yeah, I can see Kawhi being scared off of entering
that nightmare with Lebron at point. Plus they have
a new coach who may not be as good as doc rivers.
I still think that the Clippers will move to SEattle in 2024
after their lease runs out at the staples center, and
they will conveniently be denied permit to build a new
stadium in inglewood. Maybe in 2024 Kawhi can signe
with the lakers then, and he can bring paul george?
07-11-2019 07:28 AM
Find all posts by this user Like Post Quote this message in a reply
Cr33pin Offline
Innovative Casanova
*******
Gold Member

Posts: 7,385
Joined: Nov 2011
Reputation: 181
Post: #5893
Rainbow RE: The NBA Thread
Russell Westbrook traded to Rockets from Thunder for Chris Paul and some picks

Bruising cervix since 96
#TeamBeard
(This post was last modified: 07-11-2019 07:57 PM by Cr33pin.)
07-11-2019 07:56 PM
Find all posts by this user Like Post Quote this message in a reply
crystalcastle Offline
Game Denialist

Posts: 60
Joined: Dec 2018
Reputation: 0
Post: #5894
RE: The NBA Thread
More proof these dudes on TV have no idea what they're talking about is Russ being traded to the Rockets. All this week they were talking about him going to the Heat, which never made any sense salary cap-wise. At this point I wonder if their "sources" are trolling them with false info.

CP3 is screwed in OKC. At first I thought he could be bought out and go to the Lakers or something, but not with that monster contract is he being bought out.
07-12-2019 08:13 AM
Find all posts by this user Like Post Quote this message in a reply
eradicator Online
Innovative Casanova
*******
Gold Member

Posts: 6,048
Joined: May 2013
Reputation: 40
Post: #5895
RE: The NBA Thread
(07-12-2019 08:13 AM)crystalcastle Wrote:  More proof these dudes on TV have no idea what they're talking about is Russ being traded to the Rockets. All this week they were talking about him going to the Heat, which never made any sense salary cap-wise. At this point I wonder if their "sources" are trolling them with false info.

CP3 is screwed in OKC. At first I thought he could be bought out and go to the Lakers or something, but not with that monster contract is he being bought out.

Yes because the lakers clearly need another player over the age of 35 that is past their prime.

This is not a bad trade for the Rockets.

It's not a bad trade for the Thunder as they get 2 more first round picks. They are getting 7 additional first round picks(5 from the clippers, 2 from the Rockets) to build with.

Team yoga pants
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pla...FO1O020uyw
07-12-2019 08:27 AM
Find all posts by this user Like Post Quote this message in a reply
BigTony Offline
Recovering Beta
*

Posts: 211
Joined: Sep 2015
Reputation: 5
Post: #5896
RE: The NBA Thread
(07-01-2019 12:43 PM)Jones Wrote:  Knicks: Dennis Smith Jr, R.J. Barrett, Kevin Knox, Julius Randle, Mitchell Robinson
- Bench: Reggie Bullock, Wayne Ellington, Bobby Portis, Taj Gibson
(DeMarcus Cousins, Vince Carter?)

.......

Durant/Irving to Knicks would have been huge for Knicks - poor fans are stuck with terrible ownership/management.

I have a different take on this. I think the Knicks dodged a bullet by not signing two injury prone divas. Are they great players? Yes, but the additional baggage that comes along with them isn't worth it.

KD seems to be a bit soft and he doesn't handle criticism well. He also suffered a major injury that will require him to miss at least a full year of action. When he does return he will be 32 and his legs already have a lot of miles on them. On top of this, some reports have stated that Kyrie preferred to play for the Nets so the Knicks were never guaranteed to get the pair anyway.

Steve Mills and Scott Perry are cleaning up the mess that Phil Jackson left for them. Yes, the Knicks have been mismanaged ever since the days of Scott Layden and Isiah Thomas but this regime is making good moves. They are building the team's core through the draft. Plus they added a lot of muscle and experience to go along with the young guys. Their top FA signing, Julius Randle, is only 24 and is still getting better.

Call me crazy but if David Fizdale can push the right buttons, the Knicks can make some noise and potentially be a lower seeded playoff team.
07-12-2019 10:57 AM
Find all posts by this user Like Post Quote this message in a reply
[-] The following 2 users Like BigTony's post:
zoom, Brosemite
eradicator Online
Innovative Casanova
*******
Gold Member

Posts: 6,048
Joined: May 2013
Reputation: 40
Post: #5897
RE: The NBA Thread
Randle is the one move that could pan out. The knicks essentially struck out on free agency, there aren’t any good FA in the next couple of years.

If the Bricks had kept porzingis and signed him long term and teamed him with Julius Randle and RJ Barret, then that would be building through the draft. Instead Porzingis left and they have nothing to show for it, except cap space. Cap space is only useful if you can sign top free agents or trade for a star that will stay long term.

I have no idea what the bricks are doing and neither do they

Team yoga pants
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pla...FO1O020uyw
07-12-2019 11:27 AM
Find all posts by this user Like Post Quote this message in a reply
Rotten Offline
Beta Orbiter
*

Posts: 139
Joined: Dec 2016
Reputation: 2
Post: #5898
RE: The NBA Thread
Brooklyn was able to build a contender by opening up cap space, even when they weren't able to attract free agents.

They would take on unwanted contracts in exchange for picks and assets. They eventually got enough assets to be legitimate contenders for Durant, from a basketball sense. The Knicks, who had maybe one player capable of playing in a Championship 8 man rotation, didn't have this.

That's why the Knicks offseason looks so bad. They spent all of their excess cap space on mediocre mid level guys. Miami had to package an unprotected pick to ship Moe Harkless, who is on an expiring deal, to the Clippers. The Clippers then used this pick to get Paul George.

Good things happen to those who wait, but the Knicks just blew their wad.

Are the knicks better off with Harkless and an unprotected pick, or with Taj Gibson?

Randle was a good move, their only good move.
07-12-2019 11:51 AM
Find all posts by this user Like Post Quote this message in a reply
BigTony Offline
Recovering Beta
*

Posts: 211
Joined: Sep 2015
Reputation: 5
Post: #5899
RE: The NBA Thread
(07-12-2019 11:27 AM)eradicator Wrote:  Randle is the one move that could pan out. The knicks essentially struck out on free agency, there aren’t any good FA in the next couple of years.

If the Bricks had kept porzingis and signed him long term and teamed him with Julius Randle and RJ Barret, then that would be building through the draft. Instead Porzingis left and they have nothing to show for it, except cap space. Cap space is only useful if you can sign top free agents or trade for a star that will stay long term.

I have no idea what the bricks are doing and neither do they

Once KD injured himself, the Knicks were out. No one knew that KD and Kyrie were going to be a packaged deal. As stated before, Kyrie wanted to be in Brooklyn so the Knicks really had no chance.

Kahwi wanted to go home to L.A. so the Knicks had to settle for Randle at 21 and 8 per game (not bad).

Porzingis, reportedly was tired of the losing culture and wanted to go. They got Dennis Smith Jr. and two future 1st round picks for a guy coming back from a torn ACL.

The Knicks have been burned in the past by acquiring damaged stars like Penny Hardaway and Antonio McDyess.
07-12-2019 01:11 PM
Find all posts by this user Like Post Quote this message in a reply
[-] The following 1 user Likes BigTony's post:
Brosemite
Brosemite Offline
True Player
*****
Gold Member

Posts: 2,181
Joined: Nov 2012
Reputation: 85
Post: #5900
RE: The NBA Thread
(07-12-2019 10:57 AM)BigTony Wrote:  I have a different take on this. I think the Knicks dodged a bullet by not signing two injury prone divas. Are they great players? Yes, but the additional baggage that comes along with them isn't worth it.

KD seems to be a bit soft and he doesn't handle criticism well. He also suffered a major injury that will require him to miss at least a full year of action. When he does return he will be 32 and his legs already have a lot of miles on them. On top of this, some reports have stated that Kyrie preferred to play for the Nets so the Knicks were never guaranteed to get the pair anyway.

Like you mentioned, both players come with their own unique baggage as you took the words out of my mouth regarding KD.

As for Kyrie, I think the big issue with him is..."how badly does he want it?" How much "drive" does he have left?

We all know Lebron originally went to Miami to chase a ring whereas KD did the same in Golden State.

Seems as if these players are more interested in "teaming up with another star in a big lifestyle market" for the sake of doing just that opposed to going the extra mile in putting forth the grinding work required to win another championship....I'd put a modern day Lebron & especially a current Kyrie into this category...

Of all the big time moves that were already made this offseason, seems as if Russ & Harden are the most driven of the bunch as they have the most to prove heading into 2019-2020

yb13
(This post was last modified: 07-12-2019 04:18 PM by Brosemite.)
07-12-2019 04:16 PM
Find all posts by this user Like Post Quote this message in a reply
[-] The following 1 user Likes Brosemite's post:
BigTony
Post Reply 


Forum Jump:


User(s) browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)

Contact Us | RooshV.com | Return to Top | Return to Content | Mobile Version | RSS Syndication