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I'm excited for these finals. I think this years will be much better than last. I think it will go to 7 with MIA winning.

As far as George Karl, he's a great coach. This year he went far for the team he had. They had no superstars and finished 3rd seed in the west, that's pretty impressive, the west had a lot of competition this year. But like others have said, he just has trouble doing anything in the playoffs. It doesn't help that year after year they have to go up against my Lakers though Laugh.
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That was an awesome half of basketball. That was played at such a high level it was crazy. Superb defense, but even better offense on both ends.

I could explain why, but this thread's cult hero Zach Lowe could explain it better than I could.
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FUCKIN TONY PARKER!!!!

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And the second half was even more awesome. Is it 8PM on Sunday yet?
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Fucking Tony Parker & Tim Duncan got it done tonight!

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For one game at least, basketball is alive!!!!
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Fuck Ya! I was a bit nervous watching the replay on Parker's shot. On the first angle, they kept rewinding and forwarding and it was close - too hard to tell, but that second angle was so clear.

Ok now watching ESPN post game, sometimes reporters just need to ask themselves, "is my question value add?"

Pop is 20-3 when he wins game 1 in a best of seven series.

Pop - "We don't do no turnover drills." LOL.
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(06-06-2013 10:38 PM)2Wycked Wrote:  Fucking Tony Parker & Tim Duncan got it done tonight!

More like Lebron and Wade didn't. 6 pts in the 4th quarter btw the both of them..

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Hell yeah!!!! What a match! Once again, the Spurs's experience, hunger and winning mentality shines through in the big games. TP showing once again why he will be the Finals' MVP yet again. Lebron and the entire Miami Heat team shitting their pants under pressure against the best and most complete team in the league. Was Lebron even playing in the 4th quarter, when the Heat needed him most? This is why, despite all his talent, he is still not a complete player. To be a complete, you need to deliver the goods not only during the regular season, in the playoffs but most importantly, in the big games and in the final, when the pressure is at its maximum and when you, as the big player of the team, are supposed to take the team and carry it to victory.

If you're a team owner/coach and want to build a team to win championships, you want a guy who will excel under pressure. Lebron reminds me of Cristiano Ronaldo, in that he has killer moves, great marketability and scores a shit ton of goals during the regular season, but in the BIG games, when you need him the most, he disappears. And mentally, he is still not as tough and strong as his status as the leader of the team and best player in the league would warrant. To me, a fit and healthy Kobe is light years ahead of Lebron. Heck, If I'm a team owner and want to build a team to win multiple championships and have the choice between Lebron, Durant and TP, Lebron is my LAST choice! Lebron may win you games, but Kobe, Durant and TP will win you championships and win games for you when you need it and in the clutch moments. Lebron, does what Lebron does best: He chokes!

And how about Wade and Bosh? I'm extremely dissapointed by Wade, he was the ultimate leader not long ago and now, he is hesitating, not taking his responsability and not stepping up when his team needs him.

Bosh also has been uber dissapointing. He can make big plays, but in the big games, he's not the go to guy. Miami are in deep deep shit right now. If they don't win Game 2, they'll get swept. As simple as that.

As to the Spurs, as brillant and magnificient as ever! That team is a lean mean machine which will kill you unless you're at your very best. And even then, your very best may not be enough to stop them. And with Pop as the most experienced coach in the league, he is not going to get out coached by a kid like the Miami coach. This final looks like it's going to have only one outcome: Spurs winning the Cup and TP as the MVP of the Finals.

Go Spurs! Allez Tony!!
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Bron isn't human and the Spurs have choked royally in the last few years. Heat in 6.
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(06-06-2013 11:13 PM)Vacancier Permanent Wrote:  Hell yeah!!!! What a match! Once again, the Spurs's experience, hunger and winning mentality shines through in the big games. TP showing once again why he will be the Finals' MVP yet again. Lebron and the entire Miami Heat team shitting their pants under pressure against the best and most complete team in the league. Was Lebron even playing in the 4th quarter, when the Heat needed him most? This is why, despite all his talent, he is still not a complete player. To be a complete, you need to deliver the goods not only during the regular season, in the playoffs but most importantly, in the big games and in the final, when the pressure is at its maximum and when you, as the big player of the team, are supposed to take the team and carry it to victory.

If you're a team owner/coach and want to build a team to win championships, you want a guy who will excel under pressure. Lebron reminds me of Cristiano Ronaldo, in that he has killer moves, great marketability and scores a shit ton of goals during the regular season, but in the BIG games, when you need him the most, he disappears. And mentally, he is still not as tough and strong as his status as the leader of the team and best player in the league would warrant. To me, a fit and healthy Kobe is light years ahead of Lebron. Heck, If I'm a team owner and want to build a team to win multiple championships and have the choice between Lebron, Durant and TP, Lebron is my LAST choice! Lebron may win you games, but Kobe, Durant and TP will win you championships and win games for you when you need it and in the clutch moments. Lebron, does what Lebron does best: He chokes!

And how about Wade and Bosh? I'm extremely dissapointed by Wade, he was the ultimate leader not long ago and now, he is hesitating, not taking his responsability and not stepping up when his team needs him.

Bosh also has been uber dissapointing. He can make big plays, but in the big games, he's not the go to guy. Miami are in deep deep shit right now. If they don't win Game 2, they'll get swept. As simple as that.

As to the Spurs, as brillant and magnificient as ever! That team is a lean mean machine which will kill you unless you're at your very best. And even then, your very best may not be enough to stop them. And with Pop as the most experienced coach in the league, he is not going to get out coached by a kid like the Miami coach. This final looks like it's going to have only one outcome: Spurs winning the Cup and TP as the MVP of the Finals.

Go Spurs! Allez Tony!!

VP, tell us how you really feel. Stop sugar coating. Smile

I really have no idea what Chris Bosh is doing.

I am glad the Spurs got rest and time to plan. One of the reasons I want the Spurs to win is just the workman like approach - no hype. I was hoping for the Pacers so you knew that teamwork and passing would be highlighted. Sure ratings would have been down, but you could show kids how to play a sport.
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How am I feeling right now? Seeing my Spurs team beating the Heats in their own court while Lebron choked yet again and TP shining as he always does in the big games, I feel as high as after banging a HB12!Wink
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(06-06-2013 11:34 PM)samsamsam Wrote:  VP, tell us how you really feel. Stop sugar coating. Smile

I really have no idea what Chris Bosh is doing.

I am glad the Spurs got rest and time to plan. One of the reasons I want the Spurs to win is just the workman like approach - no hype. I was hoping for the Pacers so you knew that teamwork and passing would be highlighted. Sure ratings would have been down, but you could show kids how to play a sport.
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LOL @ Vacancier. That post seems like it was used after the 2011 Finals. He has actually done pretty well in big games since 2011 and even before that. Down to Indiana 2-1, down to Boston 3-2 (elimination game on road and he goes for 45 15 5), Indiana game 1 this year and game 5, and game 7 (30 8 4).

Even if you don't like LeBron at least be a little objective.

How can you say Durant is going to win you championships and you would take him over LeBron when LeBron beat him last year for his first?

LeBron has been pretty good in clutch situations except Dallas 2011 and you are bound to have one or two bad games here and there (even in a bad game like this he had 18 18 10). As a matter of fact he shoots better than Kobe in "clutch" situations.

Anyway, I expected this to be a long series. The first game just confirms it. I still got the Heat in 6/7. At least Wade is playing with more energy and that bodes well for Miami. Bosh needs to stop shooting those perimeter 3s.

TP definitely best point guard in game (ahead of CP3 for me) and top 5 player in the league right now.
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What a game. I almost want to switch my decision to 7 games spurs winning. That's a big win in Miami. Miami is a hard team no matter where you're playing them, but it helps that their fans typically show up late and leave early when you're playing them at home.
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(06-07-2013 02:33 AM)InternationPlayboy Wrote:  What a game. I almost want to switch my decision to 7 games spurs winning. That's a big win in Miami.

Yeah, I feel you but Miami is a very good road team just like the Spurs so I don't see Spurs winning all 3 at SA. I am sticking with the Heat in 6/7. I was talking with my friend and this may go like the 2010 Finals with Lakers coming back to LA down 3-2 and forcing and winning a game 7.
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Look at all the Heat fans making excuses. Someone needs to out out an Amber alert for Bosh!

T Parker best move was getting rid of Eva Longoria. His game has ascended from that point on.

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(06-06-2013 11:39 PM)TheSlayer Wrote:  LOL @ Vacancier. That post seems like it was used after the 2011 Finals. He has actually done pretty well in big games since 2011 and even before that. Down to Indiana 2-1, down to Boston 3-2 (elimination game on road and he goes for 45 15 5), Indiana game 1 this year and game 5, and game 7 (30 8 4).

Even if you don't like LeBron at least be a little objective.

How can you say Durant is going to win you championships and you would take him over LeBron when LeBron beat him last year for his first?

LeBron has been pretty good in clutch situations except Dallas 2011 and you are bound to have one or two bad games here and there (even in a bad game like this he had 18 18 10). As a matter of fact he shoots better than Kobe in "clutch" situations.

Anyway, I expected this to be a long series. The first game just confirms it. I still got the Heat in 6/7. At least Wade is playing with more energy and that bodes well for Miami. Bosh needs to stop shooting those perimeter 3s.

TP definitely best point guard in game (ahead of CP3 for me) and top 5 player in the league right now.

LeBron really didn't have a "bad" offensive game last night - he simply didn't shoot enough. He didn't attack enough looking for his own shots. He made a conscious effort to help on the boards, but he's got forget about getting others shots. Now, he needs to pass only when he doesn't have his OWN shot. Bosh is definitely playing pussy-ball. Just like against Hibbert, you have to go at Duncan and force him to contest. The same with Splitter. They're gladly letting Bosh take that shot. I want to see LeBron or Allen taking that big 3, not Bosh. Bosh shouldn't be shooting above the free throw line. Since the Spurs really expect him to hoist jumpers, he can use that against them by up-faking and going around the defender and going to the basket, or at least taking shorter j's.

I'm not shocked by the Spurs winning last night - that's what they do. I felt each game would be tight, but the Heat are really up against it with the 2-3-2 format. Only 2 teams have ever swept the middle 3 games in 26 years of this finals format - the 2004 Detroit Pistons (they split the first two games in LA) and the 2006 Heat (Dallas won the first two at home). 15 teams with the middle three games at home have won at least two of the three. The Heat HAVE to win game 2, and hope history holds for the most part, which would bring them back home trailing 3-2.

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(06-07-2013 06:59 AM)CThunder86 Wrote:  Look at all the Heat fans making excuses. Someone needs to out out an Amber alert for Bosh!

Those two 3's he dropped the ball on in the 4th, you can't get anymore wide open than that, ESPECIALLY the last one.
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@Timoteo, I know it wasn't a "bad" game per se, I was just replying to Vacancier's post about LeBron "choking" last night and not being a big game player. He was a little passive and I expect him to attack Duncan more in the next game. Can somebody please tell Bosh and Spo that Bosh should only shoot 3s when he is in the corner. That's why I like JVG doing the Finals. His knowledge about the game and what needs to be done and what is going on in the game is very astute. Bosh is money from the mid-range but these perimeter 3s are not his game.

I am also not in the least surprised that the Spurs won game 1. These are two of the best road teams in the NBA. Anytime the Heat are involved there is always an overreaction after every win or loss in the playoffs.
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Another masterpiece from the cult hero Zach Lowe (as MaleDefined put it) breaking down plays in game 1. Seriously I have learned so much about the little things NBA teams do and watch the game completely differently after reading his stuff.

A Story of Refinement: How the Spurs' Elevated Playmaking Triumphed in Game 1

His perfect description of LeBron's play in game 1:

Quote:The “LeBron is passive” trope emerges from the sewer at screaming volume levels almost every time the Heat lose in the playoffs, and rarely with any sort of sophisticated analysis behind it. The guy had 18 rebounds, including a huge crunch-time putback, and pushed the pace constantly off misses. He blew by Duncan for a clutch layup with about 1:50 left. He brutalized San Antonio in the post during the middle stages of the game, generating good looks for himself and at one point late in the third quarter drawing something very close to a quintuple-team before hitting Mario Chalmers for a corner 3.

He also does question some of his decision making and rightfully so:

Quote:And yet, there were at least two late-game possessions, by my count, when James probably passed too early, and when he could have squeezed out something better by continuing his drive to the rim: the Bosh 3-pointer and the possession highlighted at the top of this post. There may have been one or two more, and it’s fair to rewatch the video and wonder about LeBron’s decision-making on those plays.
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(06-07-2013 08:03 PM)TheSlayer Wrote:  @Timoteo, I know it wasn't a "bad" game per se but I was just replying to Vacancier's post about LeBron "choking" last night and not being a big game player. He was a little passive and I expect him to attack Duncan more in the next game. Can somebody please tell Bosh and Spo that Bosh should only shoot 3s when he is in the corner. That's why I like JVG doing the Finals. His knowledge about the game and what needs to be done and what is going on in the game is very astute. Bosh is money from the mid-range but these perimeter 3s are not his game.

I am also not in the least surprised that the Spurs won game 1. These are two of the best road teams in the NBA. Anytime the Heat are involved there is always an overreaction after every win or loss in the playoffs.

Yeah, some will never let go of their old criticisms of LeBron. He only took 16 shots, which is probably too low, but it obviously wasn't because he was choking. This guy has come up big in any number of back-to-the-wall games in the playoffs in his career, so it's kind of funny when he's still accused of choking. Even with LeBron shooting so little, the Heat were in good shape until the last 5 minutes or so, so it wasn't LeBron's performance that cost them. It was Bosh not hitting wide open looks. Spo/LeBron/Wade really need to get in his ass about how he's playing, and get that adjustment made.

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I don't know if you guys saw the poll that was taken about who would win the finals. Every single state but Florida voted San Antonio. I have this funny sports page on my facebook. The status just updated to.. "America has a 1-0 lead in the NBA finals over the Heat." I lol'd.
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(06-07-2013 08:18 PM)TheSlayer Wrote:  Another masterpiece from the cult hero Zach Lowe (as MaleDefined put it) breaking down plays in game 1. Seriously I have learned so much about the little things NBA teams do and watch the game completely differently after reading his stuff.

A Story of Refinement: How the Spurs' Elevated Playmaking Triumphed in Game 1

His perfect description of LeBron's play in game 1:

Quote:The “LeBron is passive” trope emerges from the sewer at screaming volume levels almost every time the Heat lose in the playoffs, and rarely with any sort of sophisticated analysis behind it. The guy had 18 rebounds, including a huge crunch-time putback, and pushed the pace constantly off misses. He blew by Duncan for a clutch layup with about 1:50 left. He brutalized San Antonio in the post during the middle stages of the game, generating good looks for himself and at one point late in the third quarter drawing something very close to a quintuple-team before hitting Mario Chalmers for a corner 3.

He also does question some of his decision making and rightfully so:

Quote:And yet, there were at least two late-game possessions, by my count, when James probably passed too early, and when he could have squeezed out something better by continuing his drive to the rim: the Bosh 3-pointer and the possession highlighted at the top of this post. There may have been one or two more, and it’s fair to rewatch the video and wonder about LeBron’s decision-making on those plays.

Check out Wojo from Yahoo. Best writer in the business IMHO.

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^^ Woj is pretty good at reporting breaking news and seems to have access to a lot of NBA insiders. It's funny how he always reports shit before ESPN and compared to Yahoo Sports, ESPN is a behemoth in terms of resources, journalists, and presence.

Woj's stuff is good but you can't compare him to Zach Lowe. Most of his stuff is like other NBA journalists who psychoanalyze players/teams. Lowe actually breaks down the actual game with plays, real analysis, and tells you what actually happened in the game. When you read Lowe's articles he even gives you clips of specific plays and action that the teams run.

The way I see it Lowe is an NBA writer, Woj is a good NBA journalist but a journalist nonetheless. Woj doesn't breakdown the game like Lowe does. I enjoy reading both.
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