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(03-27-2014 10:25 AM)ddjembe mutombo Wrote:  
(03-26-2014 08:18 PM)Timoteo Wrote:  I was discussing this with friends when the word came down that Phil was taking the job. I don't know how his coaching acumen will translate to the front office. His gift is working with players hands-on, getting into their heads and using them to their strengths. The key for any franchise is having a philosophy that comes from the top down, so that means Dolan has to get out of the way, sign checks, and shut the fuck up. If he does that, this has a chance of working. I actually see Melo staying in NY. He gets a bad rap - it's easy to blame the star and most talented player when things go wrong. He isn't the bad character he's made out to be, and he isn't a selfish player. He gets the "ball-stopper" label, but tell me, who the fuck is he supposed to pass to on this team? He's rebounded well, AND he's often forced to bring the ball up and initiate the offense as the either small or power forward. If they put some decent talent around him, and an actual offense, he'll have no problem passing the ball. I like the idea of him having access to Phil full-time. This is what he does best - help talented players take that next step. He just needs to decide what kind of team the Knicks are going to be, and how they're going to go about it. That means a coach (maybe Kerr) that is in line with his philosophies. I also hope this brings Walt Frazier into the fold also. He works for the team, yet no coach has allowed him to get involved with the players and impart some wisdom. With his former teammate as boss, maybe he'll be allowed some involvement.
You are preaching to a 'Cuse alumni and Denver resident. I'm all for Melo. I think NYK is doomed because of their books. There is no possible way for them to become a contender during Melo's next contract period, and I think Melo knows that now. Having him in Chicago would be pretty lethal. I am not sure how he would fit in Houston though... those dudes act like a bunch of college students.

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Durant's having one hell of a season. The 32+ 5+ 5+ and 50 percent from the field hasn't been done since Jordan.

He's the nailed on MVP for me.

So I was wondering who are the rest of your award winners?


I would pick:

Carter Williams for ROY. The efficiency isn't there but he's leading rooks in points, boards and dimes. I am a Sixers fan.

Jamal Crawford for 6th of the year. What's he 33 now? He's still getting better. It's good to see somebody check their ego and carve out a role which will ultimately bring more success than anything they could have done individually.

Most Improved is Anthony Davis. A straight stat comparison of this year and his rookie year is more than enough evidence. Davis is pushing up on superstar territory already.

Defensive player is tough. I can't in good conscience pick a Pacer with the way they have been playing of late so I would take Noah.

Coach of the year for me is Hornaceck right now, got the Suns in 7th riding a 6 game streak when they were expected to tank the year. Coach Thibs, Clifford of the Bobcats or Pop are also shouts.

I'd like to see more heads here get back into talking ball. It looks like this thread was bumping with great discussion last year and I missed it. Maybe a fresh 2014 Playoff thread is needed? Obviously a lot of guys on here that know their shit.
03-30-2014 12:17 PM
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I think the thread will pick up when playoffs are upon us. Right now we are in that awkward stage before teams are making or breaking for the final playoff spots which really isn't that interesting to me. The east is locked up with either Mia or Indy coming out. The Knicks have seemingly fallen apart...
I agree with your opinion that KD has locked down the MVP. It's obviously between him and lebron... On another point of discussion, I'm putting Joakim Noah as defensive Player of the year. I don't like him (florida vs osu, cavs vs bulls reasons) but man I love his heart and intensity. The bulls are playing well but I don't think they have the starpower to compete with Mia or Indy in seven games. I heard that d rose may be cleared to play in the playoffs
Thoughts on the west? Who is gonna make it to the WCF? Where are the LAL heading?
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I'm calling it: OKC vs Pacers in the finals. Spurs, and the conventional Miami pick lose out.

That will be a hell of a finals. Very exciting. OKC wins it. This is all with Westbrook back and playing well, but KD has been in beastmode. After Kobe is gone, he's my number one favorite in the league.

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(03-30-2014 09:49 PM)hoops330 Wrote:  I think the thread will pick up when playoffs are upon us. Right now we are in that awkward stage before teams are making or breaking for the final playoff spots which really isn't that interesting to me. The east is locked up with either Mia or Indy coming out. The Knicks have seemingly fallen apart...
I agree with your opinion that KD has locked down the MVP. It's obviously between him and lebron... On another point of discussion, I'm putting Joakim Noah as defensive Player of the year. I don't like him (florida vs osu, cavs vs bulls reasons) but man I love his heart and intensity. The bulls are playing well but I don't think they have the starpower to compete with Mia or Indy in seven games. I heard that d rose may be cleared to play in the playoffs
Thoughts on the west? Who is gonna make it to the WCF? Where are the LAL heading?

To the lottery, they're clearly banking on Wiggins or Jabari. Will be very interesting to see if they get a top 3 pick.
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(04-03-2014 10:59 PM)Slim Shady Wrote:  I'm calling it: OKC vs Pacers in the finals. Spurs, and the conventional Miami pick lose out.

That will be a hell of a finals. Very exciting. OKC wins it. This is all with Westbrook back and playing well, but KD has been in beastmode. After Kobe is gone, he's my number one favorite in the league.

I don't know if you've been watching the Pacers recently, but they have a lot to figure out if they even want to get to the Eastern Conference Finals. I would be worried about the Bobcats if I were Indiana. That will be a slugfest, and Charlotte has a better offense currently. That will not be an easy series. Toronto and Chicago aren't going to be easy opponents either.

West is going to be all about match-ups. Even as a Spurs fan, I will admit that OKC would most likely win a series between the two. However, OKC and San Antonio getting to the Western Conference Finals is not a lock. Memphis, Dallas, and Golden State are going to be hard first round match-ups. Both Portland and Houston are highly combustable and capable of crapping their pants. However, those two teams are also the two most likely of catching fire and eliminating a top seed.
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Not a chance in hell Pacers make it to the finals with all the chemistry issues they are having right now. Its laughable that their 7 foot 2 all star center Roy 'Your all selfish' Hibbert averages less rebounds than he has height. Stephenson, Turner and George all have a 'wannabe star' complex and you can see how they clash. The whole team has been calling each other out via the media. You wouldn't ever see the Heat pull the kind of shit the Pacers have been recently.

My biggest issue with the Pacers is the fact that I think their main source of motivation isn't even winning the chip, it's beating the Heat. That whole team is filled with egos and hate.

My picks currently would be the Heat and the Thunder. I was thinking a Spurs Heat rematch but after watching the game last night, acknowledging just how good Durant is and the fact they have beaten the Spurs 4 times this year has me sold. Superstars win championships and Durant is the number 1 star in the league this year.

However I am ultimately still going to pick the Heat. I can't bet against Lebron and Wade. They have proven themselves countless times. I really want them to get the three peat. The Heat play an entertaining brand of ball and they are full of heart.

Miami in 6.
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Good players win games, great teams win championships. The Pacers had every gear fitting right into place at the beginning of the season: PG leading the show, Lance "Born Ready" Stephenson and David West providing solid defense and spurts of hard offense, Hibbert was his big ass self, and no one really knew how to cover Scola during all this. They looked amazing at the beginning of the season. There is no way in hell that this team makes it through 4 best of 7 playoff series. I could see them getting eliminated early by maybe Bulls or Raptors.

(Yeah yeah I'm a heat fan, but take this as a nonpartisan criticism)

Thunder and Spurs have both been looking A+ and I think either of them will make it to the Finals. However, I think they both will have a lot of trouble during the first few rounds of the playoffs before they can get there. Miami on the other hand....if we can squeeze into the 1 seed....I think it'll be a quick trip to the Finals and then the real test begins.

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(03-27-2014 09:57 PM)startedfromscratch Wrote:  
(03-27-2014 10:25 AM)ddjembe mutombo Wrote:  
(03-26-2014 08:18 PM)Timoteo Wrote:  I was discussing this with friends when the word came down that Phil was taking the job. I don't know how his coaching acumen will translate to the front office. His gift is working with players hands-on, getting into their heads and using them to their strengths. The key for any franchise is having a philosophy that comes from the top down, so that means Dolan has to get out of the way, sign checks, and shut the fuck up. If he does that, this has a chance of working. I actually see Melo staying in NY. He gets a bad rap - it's easy to blame the star and most talented player when things go wrong. He isn't the bad character he's made out to be, and he isn't a selfish player. He gets the "ball-stopper" label, but tell me, who the fuck is he supposed to pass to on this team? He's rebounded well, AND he's often forced to bring the ball up and initiate the offense as the either small or power forward. If they put some decent talent around him, and an actual offense, he'll have no problem passing the ball. I like the idea of him having access to Phil full-time. This is what he does best - help talented players take that next step. He just needs to decide what kind of team the Knicks are going to be, and how they're going to go about it. That means a coach (maybe Kerr) that is in line with his philosophies. I also hope this brings Walt Frazier into the fold also. He works for the team, yet no coach has allowed him to get involved with the players and impart some wisdom. With his former teammate as boss, maybe he'll be allowed some involvement.
You are preaching to a 'Cuse alumni and Denver resident. I'm all for Melo. I think NYK is doomed because of their books. There is no possible way for them to become a contender during Melo's next contract period, and I think Melo knows that now. Having him in Chicago would be pretty lethal. I am not sure how he would fit in Houston though... those dudes act like a bunch of college students.

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Yeah I think Melo is a Bull next year. Joakim Noah basically pulled his card during the All-Star game telling him that if he really wants to win, he should go to Chicago, and if hes about the money, then he should stay. They talk about it right here.









If Melo is about that winning life, and if he really wants to win, he goes to Chi-Town. Chicago has an elite coach in Tom Thibadeu. Chicago has a great defensive team that will compliment Melo's scoring. The team could be deadly with him. D-Rose, Noah and Melo??? Wooo boy!!! Hope he goes to Chicago.
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(04-06-2014 11:19 PM)MidWest Wrote:  
(03-27-2014 09:57 PM)startedfromscratch Wrote:  
(03-27-2014 10:25 AM)ddjembe mutombo Wrote:  
(03-26-2014 08:18 PM)Timoteo Wrote:  I was discussing this with friends when the word came down that Phil was taking the job. I don't know how his coaching acumen will translate to the front office. His gift is working with players hands-on, getting into their heads and using them to their strengths. The key for any franchise is having a philosophy that comes from the top down, so that means Dolan has to get out of the way, sign checks, and shut the fuck up. If he does that, this has a chance of working. I actually see Melo staying in NY. He gets a bad rap - it's easy to blame the star and most talented player when things go wrong. He isn't the bad character he's made out to be, and he isn't a selfish player. He gets the "ball-stopper" label, but tell me, who the fuck is he supposed to pass to on this team? He's rebounded well, AND he's often forced to bring the ball up and initiate the offense as the either small or power forward. If they put some decent talent around him, and an actual offense, he'll have no problem passing the ball. I like the idea of him having access to Phil full-time. This is what he does best - help talented players take that next step. He just needs to decide what kind of team the Knicks are going to be, and how they're going to go about it. That means a coach (maybe Kerr) that is in line with his philosophies. I also hope this brings Walt Frazier into the fold also. He works for the team, yet no coach has allowed him to get involved with the players and impart some wisdom. With his former teammate as boss, maybe he'll be allowed some involvement.
You are preaching to a 'Cuse alumni and Denver resident. I'm all for Melo. I think NYK is doomed because of their books. There is no possible way for them to become a contender during Melo's next contract period, and I think Melo knows that now. Having him in Chicago would be pretty lethal. I am not sure how he would fit in Houston though... those dudes act like a bunch of college students.

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Yeah I think Melo is a Bull next year. Joakim Noah basically pulled his card during the All-Star game telling him that if he really wants to win, he should go to Chicago, and if hes about the money, then he should stay. They talk about it right here.









If Melo is about that winning life, and if he really wants to win, he goes to Chi-Town. Chicago has an elite coach in Tom Thibadeu. Chicago has a great defensive team that will compliment Melo's scoring. The team could be deadly with him. D-Rose, Noah and Melo??? Wooo boy!!! Hope he goes to Chicago.

I think the question becomes: Can the bulls win with just Melo + Noah? Because D-Rose is a giant question mark. Will he ever be back? And will he ever be the same again? Those are things we really can't answer anymore. I mean, what has it been - 3 or 4 major injuries in the past 3 years? I'm losing count. Remember Gilbert Arenas? Two injuries and he was never the same. Penny Hardaway? Elton Brand? Jermaine O'Neal? It's hard to get back.

I'm sure this is in the back of Melo's mind.
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Let's get this thread going again!

Who you got in the Finals?

I got Clips/Heat

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(04-15-2014 09:24 PM)2Wycked Wrote:  Let's get this thread going again!

Who you got in the Finals?

I got Clips/Heat

Yes, people let's get this thread going now. The playoffs start on Saturday.

I got Heat/OKC in the Finals. I think OKC is too good this year and the East is weak and the Heat should be able to beat the Pacers who were pretenders with "all-star" Roy Hibbert. Once in the Finals, I don't know who wins. Miami is just a bad match-up for OKC so we will see.

What are some of your upsets, picks?

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It has to be Heat/OKC, right? Followed up with massive hype over the MVP Durant and the vengeful LeBron that's going to make KD pay for stealing away the trophy.
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(04-15-2014 09:45 PM)Professor Fox Wrote:  It has to be Heat/OKC, right? Followed up with massive hype over the MVP Durant and the vengeful LeBron that's going to make KD pay for stealing away the trophy.

I think KD is the rightful MVP this season but LeBron is still the best in the game. If they meet in the Finals I expect both of them to play with a vengeance. I definitely don't want the Spurs vs. Miami because the Spurs are a terrible match-up for the Heat. On the other hand OKC is a team Miami can beat.

Also, I hope the Nets get swept in the first round. Something about them I don't like lol.
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Spurs Vs Pacers

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(04-15-2014 10:08 PM)Mentavious Wrote:  Spurs Vs Pacers

Spurs get the title

If Pacers make the Finals whichever team comes out of the West is winning in 5-6 easy. The Pacers suck. The WCF winner would rather see the Pacers in the Finals than Miami. Miami is weaker this year but you always risk Wade and James going off and winning on their talent alone. Playoffs are all about match-ups.
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Nets beat the Bulls in the first round. Series goes 7 games. Joe Johnson is the clutch poor man's Kobe Bryant.

Nets beat Heat in second round...haaaaaaaaaaaaaah

But otherwise idk why, but I have faith in Indy turning it around. They just did beat OKC, though that was a bad performance by both teams to be honest. Too many TOs and bad rebounding.

What do the Spurs do? They have the best record in the league right? Will Manu make up for last year? OKC is a terrible matchup for them though...

But now can you count against LeBron in the NBA finals? That's hard to do, even against KD or the Spurs.

Final prediction:

OKC uses superior speed matchup to beat Spurs. Bynum tanks and Oden shines. Heat beat Indy again, but it is close. Indy find form with each round.

OKC beats Heat in 7. KD finally uses the Dirk fade away and Kobe elbow game to become the best player in the league.

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Spurs IMHO......they will be WELL RESTED!!!!! I fancy OKC too.
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I got Miami and OKC for the finals. Miami winning another one.

Problem with the west is that by the time they are are at the finals they will be dead. The heat have 8-11 games (first 2 sets) to get warmed up with wade + bosh + lebron all going full steam. Charlotte will get crushed, the raptors are too inexperienced.

For okc vs Miami? I don't trust westbrook's decision making and think KD and lebron cancel each other out.

If this happens I am 50/50 on seeing one game live in Miami.
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The way the west standings look now on ESPN would be perfect:
San Antonio vs Memphis
OKC vs Dallas
LA Clippers vs Golden State
Houston vs Portland

I think all the top seeds should be slightly favored, but their match-ups in the first round are all teams that could upset them.

The east is just as hard to predict in the 3/6 and 4/5 positions.

I'd love to see a San Antonio vs Miami rematch again this year. I honestly think one of the top four teams in the West will win it all this year.
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I thought Pacers really made a bad move in getting Evan Turner. I see very little potential in him. He seems to be a mediocre small forward who thinks he is much better than he is because he played on the worst team in the league (or second worst). Not that Granger could have stayed, he didn't fit into the team concept but neither does Turner. I still think getting a point guard with good handles was the main thing the Pacers needed. And now no news on Bynum who probably won't even play.

Still, the Pacers are made to beat the Heat and they're better and deeper than last year where it went 7 games. Last year they lost because of a bad bench, but now they have Scola and Watson too.

What is you guys opinion on the Nets and Jason Kidd? I think the Nets have found a good groove using Pierce as the main offensive leader and Garnett providing defense leadership and they have a deep team that now seems to play unselfish ball. I could see them beat the Heat actually too.

In the west I have to agree that Spurs will have difficulty with OKC. They are just too quick and explosive. However, I don't know the seeds and if OKC might face of with Houston, which I think could be a tough matchup.
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Man, that Clippers-Warriors series would be fun to watch huh?

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