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RVF pickup....

Give me Gio and a big man. We'll win.

Gio may be an old man but the 18 year old poon keeps him young.
06-03-2014 05:13 PM
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(06-03-2014 05:07 PM)Rotisserie Wrote:  One of my best buddies thinks he's the shit and actively tells me not to pass it to other players, only to him.

When I play with those guys I stop passing to them all together. Just give them a taste of the medicine they give others. I play with one guy occasionally like that and he hate me because I'll encourage the guy with no touch to shoot everything while Mr. Hotdog stands in the corner.

I tried to set a lot of off-ball screens for the solid 3-point shooter on my team today. Does anybody know what to do with an off-ball screen? The guy I'm screening for never moves and I just look like an idiot. I'll let the big man set a screen for the guy with the ball. I also feel that not many pick-up players know when to hit someone in rhythm. So many people wait too late to pass on a cut or fast break.

Where's the hoop match?
06-03-2014 05:23 PM
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(06-03-2014 05:23 PM)ddjembe mutombo Wrote:  Where's the hoop match?

I'd probably say LA or NYC. That's where the highest concentration of RVFers are at, right?
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(06-03-2014 05:28 PM)Rotisserie Wrote:  I'd probably say LA or NYC. That's where the highest concentration of RVFers are at, right?

I could probably do LA sometime since I plan on flying out there to try out some audio consoles. I try to stay away from the despair pit known as NYC as much as possible.
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(06-03-2014 04:41 PM)ddjembe mutombo Wrote:  
(06-03-2014 12:47 PM)SHANbangs Wrote:  It is, in a way, an incredibly "beta" style of basketball. All my really beta friends love the spurs. It is beta because it is all about fear and submission - submitting to a team and a system.

HAHA! Somebody reads to many man-o-sphere articles!


Anyway, people that show up to the hardwood and play hero ball are those who think the Spurs are boring. These are the people that don't understand that you pass even to the people that have no game. Why is that? Because they are viewing the court form a different angle, and they may be one easy pass away to another teammate with a good shot. I constantly play with people that think they can take over games, or that someone should be neglected on offense. What happens when the defense realizes the ball is not running through someone? They stop guarding him! Now your "team of 4" has to deal with a guy hovering around and providing constant help defense. This definitely makes getting points much harder. Even if you are the most dominant player in the room you should be smart enough to know you don't want to deal with a constant double team. I love guarding those hero ballers because I know they'd rather take a contested 18 ft fadeaway than pass to the open man cutting to the rim.

Come on, huge middle ground between the two.

Good basketball etiquette is passing to kendrick perkins for 1 touch in a possession. Spurs ball is passing to kendrick perkins for as many possessions as danny green.

Yes, it's good to pass the ball around, but it doesn't require a egalitarian system to do that.
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Thunder did not utilize Perkins in dribble handoff situations nearly enough this year. It's the most common way to hide an offensively challenged big man - by involving him in a screen.
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(06-03-2014 08:45 PM)MaleDefined Wrote:  Thunder did not utilize Perkins in dribble handoff situations nearly enough this year. It's the most common way to hide an offensively challenged big man - by involving him in a screen.

Yup. Perkins is offensively challenged, but he is still serviceable. However, instead of working on his passing skills so he can move the ball from the high post well they just tell him to set ball screens. Everybody on the court knows nobody is going to pass to Perk on that high roll so why even guard him? I think Perk would be a pretty great player if a coach would take the time to figure out how to get him into rhythm.
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(06-03-2014 05:07 PM)Rotisserie Wrote:  I second an RVF pickup tournament.

As long as everyone else is cool with coming in second, I'm down.
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(06-03-2014 05:48 PM)ddjembe mutombo Wrote:  
(06-03-2014 05:28 PM)Rotisserie Wrote:  I'd probably say LA or NYC. That's where the highest concentration of RVFers are at, right?

I could probably do LA sometime since I plan on flying out there to try out some audio consoles. I try to stay away from the despair pit known as NYC as much as possible.

Despair pit?? Come on now!! New York is the mecca of basketball! Don't disrespect the grain!!

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Spurs are fundamentally sound, and I've hated them since they won their 1st waaaay back in 99'

If you are a TRUE fan of the sport, you have to give them dap for a sustained run. Longer than MJ/Pippen, Magic/Kareem (did I just say that? Sorry Magic), and Bird/Mchale/Parrish triumvirate. Pains me to say, but they have been at a high level for a long time. Mainly because the nucleus has been kept together.

Well the Thunder & Clippers were "exciting" and now they are sitting their "exciting" asses at home...

In the immortal words of Dennis Green "You PLAY to win the GAME!!!"

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(06-03-2014 05:13 PM)MaleDefined Wrote:  RVF pickup....

Give me Gio and a big man. We'll win.

Gio may be an old man but the 18 year old poon keeps him young.

Have you seen the height thread? Apparently 90% of the RVF is 6'2"+, no one's going to be lacking big men.

(06-03-2014 10:07 PM)jariel Wrote:  
(06-03-2014 05:07 PM)Rotisserie Wrote:  I second an RVF pickup tournament.

As long as everyone else is cool with coming in second, I'm down.

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What's actually gonna happen is this:

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Quote:The Spurs are boring,

"Boring" is a subjective term right?

It's a matter of taste.. It's like watching a movie or a tv show..

Some people might think its boring while other people might think it exciting.

There is no right or wrong answer.

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I think the tv show "Game of Thrones" is boring but most people disagree with me.

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The other thing I will say is this:

Do you know who loves the Spurs???

The greatest players in the history of basketball. All the great Hall of Famers speak very highly of the Spurs. Magic, Micheal, Larry, Rick Barry, Oscar Robertson, Bill Walton, etc., etc.

These guys say that they love the way the Spurs play.

This is because the more in depth knowledge you have about something, the more you can appreciate the finer aspects of it.

The average fan probably does not even notice all the little things that the Spurs do to make them a great basketball team. Spacing, communicating, timing, awareness, out of bounds plays, closing quarters, late in the shot clock plays, Pop's amazing coaching, false action, defensive close outs, effort, intensity, competitiveness.

The average fan is not even aware of the power of passing. Passing is the most important part of team's attack. Yet, the average fan would often rather see a dribble move.

Another thing about all those Hall of Famers respecting the Spurs.. Those guys respect winning. They don't care about entertainment value. They measure success by championship trophies.

Fans worry about entertainment.
Owners worry about business.
Champions worry about championships.

I think the Spurs are the most exciting team in the league, but, it's all a matter of taste.

(06-03-2014 04:26 PM)JoyStick Wrote:  the Stockton led Jazz were boring?

That was my team until Stockton retired.

Moma and I have talked about them before:

Was John Stockton boring to watch?

Maybe, I just like boring basketball?

I just like people who are the best in the world at what they do.

(06-03-2014 05:13 PM)MaleDefined Wrote:  Give me Gio and a big man. We'll win.

Gio may be an old man but the 18 year old poon keeps him young.

That young pussy does keep my spirit young but my legs are getting old.

Every year its gets harder and harder to keep up with the young guys.

But, with our experience and championship style, I'm sure we could be very competitive against a group of youngsters.

I just hope we have some size, shooting, and athleticism.

At this point, my game is resembles Andre Miller. I am his age.

In my youth, I patterned myself after Stockton.

I can't wait for tomorrow! I hope Tony Parkers ankle is okay.
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(06-04-2014 09:05 AM)MY DETROIT PLAYAS Wrote:  Spurs are fundamentally sound, and I've hated them since they won their 1st waaaay back in 99'

If you are a TRUE fan of the sport, you have to give them dap for a sustained run. Longer than MJ/Pippen, Magic/Kareem (did I just say that? Sorry Magic), and Bird/Mchale/Parrish triumvirate. Pains me to say, but they have been at a high level for a long time. Mainly because the nucleus has been kept together.

Well the Thunder & Clippers were "exciting" and now they are sitting their "exciting" asses at home...

In the immortal words of Dennis Green "You PLAY to win the GAME!!!"

No, THEY play to win.

I WATCH to be entertained.
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Like I've said before, I think that the Spurs' game and Gio's game are very similar -- no wonder he loves them so much.

Reading a Gio approach is a little bit like watching a Spurs possession. Everything looks so simple... when it's over you can barely understand what just happened.

Sorry if this embarrasses you Gio... Smile

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(06-04-2014 01:43 PM)The Lizard of Oz Wrote:  I think that the Spurs' game and Gio's game are very similar

Sorry if this embarrasses you Gio... Smile

No, this does not embarrasses me at all. It's a great honor.

I do model my game and my life after the Spurs. It's a way of life.

Simplicity, Competitiveness, Class, Outside the Box Thinking, Positivity, Fundamentals, Lack of Ego, Flow.

I strive to be like Tim, Tony, Manu, and Pop. Those guys are my idols.

It's all about taking this complex game and breaking it down to the most simple and effective strategies.

Like I said, before the Spurs, I modeled myself after John Stockton. He taught me to never waste a dribble, never waste a step, and never waste your energy. Everything is about efficiency and winning.

In a game where everyone is trying to be fancy, simple moves are often more effective.

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(06-03-2014 10:07 PM)jariel Wrote:  
(06-03-2014 05:07 PM)Rotisserie Wrote:  I second an RVF pickup tournament.

As long as everyone else is cool with coming in second, I'm down.

You guys wouldn't stand a chance against me.

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Fun fact: The Spurs modeled themselves after the Jazz. And now teams like the Hawks are modeling themselves after the Spurs. So sorry guys, there's going to be a lot more "boring" basketball in the future.
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Let's go guys. Going to try to wake up and watch game one in. Fucking India. Gio is right on about the Spurs. Ginobiliiii all day. This revenge won't end like Oberyn Martell's. The Mountain will fall, and fall hard.

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(06-04-2014 01:59 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  No, this does not embarrasses me at all. It's a great honor.

I do model my game and my life after the Spurs. It's a way of life.

Simplicity, Competitiveness, Class, Outside the Box Thinking, Positivity, Fundamentals, Lack of Ego, Flow.

I strive to be like Tim, Tony, Manu, and Pop. Those guys are my idols.

It's all about taking this complex game and breaking it down to the most simple and effective strategies.

Like I said, before the Spurs, I modeled myself after John Stockton. He taught me to never waste a dribble, never waste a step, and never waste your energy. Everything is about efficiency and winning.

In a game where everyone is trying to be fancy, simple moves are often more effective.

In Life, in basketball, and with girls.

Don't forget about The Admiral. He is probably one of the best role models to ever pass through the league.
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Gio,

No joke, and definitely no homo, we need to hang. And by hang, I don't mean hit on women, or leave the house. I want to throw on NBA TV and watch classic playoff basketball all day with you bro.

The shit we'd talk about while watching great ball. Shit, we could write a book from it.

Quote:Simplicity, Competitiveness, Class, Outside the Box Thinking, Positivity, Fundamentals, Lack of Ego, Flow.

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(06-03-2014 09:34 AM)ddjembe mutombo Wrote:  Also, how can the Spurs be boring when they have Manu Ginobli? Just watch the passes that guy makes. He is the original D-Wade and James Harden, but he has a higher IQ than both of them.

He feels like a basketball player trying to play like a soccer player, same with Parker. I just don't like their style. It feels like Pau Gasol softy type game.

Not saying they can't win Games and they haven't been good forever. I do think though that they are bad for the league.

The 04' Pistons were cool. I am not against teams. I am against lame teams.
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(06-03-2014 12:47 PM)SHANbangs Wrote:  I agree that the spurs are boring, but not in that "grind it out way" that, say, the pacers or the 2004 pistons are boring. It is, instead, about mechanical execution. The kind of boring execution that makes me hate FC Barcelona and Spain in soccer - the kind that subordinates the individual creativity and athleticism to a borderline-totalitarian team concept.

It is, in a way, an incredibly "beta" style of basketball. All my really beta friends love the spurs. It is beta because it is all about fear and submission - submitting to a team and a system. It is bad for basketball because, at its purest, most artistic form, basketball is about 5 INDIVIDUALS who use their INDIVIDUAL athleticism and creativity in synergy. The prime examples for this were are every single Team USA and the triangle lakers. Basketball is not, and was not meant to be, a team sport the way soccer or football are.

Magical explanation of why I think basketball is so different than other team sports and can be so creative and artistic.
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(06-03-2014 02:22 PM)MaleDefined Wrote:  The Spurs are boring?!

Sorry that you find pushing the ball in transition, a ton of 3's, and no look passes to be boring.

Guys, I please hope you've played basketball at a decent level to throw lobs like that out there.

Within the course of a game you will see multiple Spurs play multiple positions offensively and defensively. In fact, the Spurs run the most improvisational offense in basketball. Fitting in their system inherently requires varied skills, and innate court intelligence.

I'd highly suggest going back and reading Grantland's Zach Lowe columns about how the Spurs play.

Why do responses like this make me think many Go Spurs guys are also soccer fans?
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This game is Spurs' game.

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There's way more people that want it than people that have it.
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