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(05-30-2013 10:10 PM)iWin Wrote:  GOAT performance today by LeBron, and sadly he will need to do this at least 5 more times in order for them to win a championship.

Who knew the new Big 2 in Miami would be LeBron and Haslem during the playoffs?. He's not beating the Spurs on his own. Wade and Bosh need to wake the fuck up. Even as a basketball fan it is just frustrating to see supposed superstars play without any passion in the conference finals.
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I think DWade is really hurting to be honest. Looks disinterested, but I think he may just be pacing himself. Bosh on the other hand has reverted to the soft player Toronto fans were all too familiar with. Why he doesn't attack the basketball with reckless abandon is beyond me. By far the most gifted big man in the series. But would rather make himself an average player by jacking trey balls all the time.
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(05-30-2013 10:18 PM)iWin Wrote:  I think DWade is really hurting to be honest. Looks disinterested, but I think he may just be pacing himself. Bosh on the other hand has reverted to the soft player Toronto fans were all too familiar with. Why he doesn't attack the basketball with reckless abandon is beyond me. By far the most gifted big man in the series. But would rather make himself an average player by jacking trey balls all the time.

He was hurting last year too but this year he just looks disinterested and playing like it's some regular season jerkoff game in the middle of March.

Last year he was playing with passion and still wanted to dominate.

I agree that Bosh is relying too much on just shooting outside jumpers. I am not sure though if that's on him or if Spo is just telling him to stay outside the point. He has the skill to drive and shoot an outside shot. Why not use both? He only had one game where he actually appeared to care and in that game he had 20 & 19 against Chicago in game 3.

In the end, if Miami loses all the blame will go on LeBron anyway but they are not going to beat the Spurs with Bosh and Wade playing this lackadaisical.
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(05-30-2013 10:24 PM)TheSlayer Wrote:  
(05-30-2013 10:18 PM)iWin Wrote:  I think DWade is really hurting to be honest. Looks disinterested, but I think he may just be pacing himself. Bosh on the other hand has reverted to the soft player Toronto fans were all too familiar with. Why he doesn't attack the basketball with reckless abandon is beyond me. By far the most gifted big man in the series. But would rather make himself an average player by jacking trey balls all the time.

He was hurting last year too but this year he just looks disinterested and playing like it's some regular season jerkoff game in the middle of March.

Last year he was playing with passion and still wanted to dominate.

I agree that Bosh is relying too much on just shooting outside jumpers. I am not sure though if that's on him or if Spo is just telling him to stay outside the point. He has the skill to drive and shoot an outside shot. Why not use both? He only had one game where he actually appeared to care and in that game he had 20 & 19 against Chicago in game 3.

In the end, if Miami loses all the blame will go on LeBron anyway but they are not going to beat the Spurs with Bosh and Wade playing this lackadaisical.

Maybe D-Wade lacks motivation. I always wondered how he could be so good natured about playing second fiddle to Lebron, when he was the original alpha dog for so long on the heat and won them their first championship. Maybe after winning one with Lebron, he no longer has the passion. What's the point of winning "not five, not six..." when they will all be remembered as Lebron's championships?
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(05-30-2013 10:30 PM)SHANbangs Wrote:  Maybe D-Wade lacks motivation. I always wondered how he could be so good natured about playing second fiddle to Lebron, when he was the original alpha dog for so long on the heat and won them their first championship. Maybe after winning one with Lebron, he no longer has the passion. What's the point of winning "not five, not six..." when they will all be remembered as Lebron's championships?

Maybe, who knows? Although if that is his thinking then it's really stupid because in the end the entire team will be remembered for those championships. If he doesn't want to play second fiddle then he should be playing all out and trying to be at least the second best player on the floor. Right now he's getting outplayed by Chalmers and Haslem in this series. That sure as hell isn't going to do any wonders for his legacy if Miami does win without his production.

It's plain and simple, Miami won't beat the Spurs without Wade being Wade. I this continues I wouldn't be surprised if Miami lowballs him for his last contract as a player.
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So far this series is turning out the exact way I predicted it would. I intially said the Pacers' main downfall would be turnovers, missed freethrows/easy shots, and inconsistent perimeter play - that is exactly what happened tonight.

It's clear that the Pacers have enough to beat the Heat in terms of players, they just lack the mental capabilities to really put their foot on the Heat's neck. The funny thing about this particular game is if Hill or Stevenson had even a semi-good game, the Pacers would have won this game. Unfortunately, they are too inconsistent.

In other news, Birdman should have been ejected from this game. If the officials ejected Nazi Mohammad for shoving LeBron James in the previous series, they should have definitely ejected Birdman for doing the same thing. As a matter of fact, I can argue what Birdman did was worse. The Heat will be lucky if he doesn't get suspended for Game 6.
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@Jules, gotta disagree with you a little bit. Wade and Bosh have been virtually nonexistent this series. If they play like they played during the 27 game winning streak or even like the players they are, Pacers don't have enough to beat the Heat just on terms of players or talent.

Birdman will probably be suspended but I think Miami wins game 6 although he was provoked by Paul George so that maybe a mitigating factor.
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Wade is clearly injured and I don't see him getting healthy any time soon. Bosh's performance has been soft. He's averaging a mere 3 boards per game, and as a 6'10 big man, that is inexcusable. Also, playing multiple teams in the regular season is not the same as facing a team in a playoff series where they can exploit weaknesses.

The Pacers, like in the 2/3 regular season matchups vs the Heat, are exploiting the Heat's weakness on the interior and boards. However, they can't back it up with consistent perimeter play.

There is no excuse for Birdman's conduct tonight, provoked or not. He didn't even go after the right guy!
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@Jules, I get that he's injured and but as iWin and I were discussing it looks like he's not even interested right now. His injury was worse last year as he had to actually get the knee drained during the Indiana series. Same with Bosh. He's averaging 3 boards and only around 13 points. He too looks like he's playing some meaningless regular season games. These two are playing without any effort. If they actually try I am sure they can do a bit better. They are much better players. It's becoming annoying to see the Heat turn into Cavaliers.

I am not excusing Birdman's conduct. He probably will be suspended but I am just saying Paul George did push him and he thought it was Psycho T who did it.
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(05-30-2013 10:10 PM)iWin Wrote:  Random thought: Why has New York stopped producing elite NBA players, the last two with a crazy amount of hype(Telfair and Stephenson) turned out to just be average. Maybe Moe Harkless will develop into a stud.

NY has a history of producing great high school legends, but not really great pros. You can go back to Lenny Wilkins (is in the HOF as a player and coach from Brooklyn), Lew Alcindor/Kareem Abdul-Jabbar (NYC-Harlem), Julius Erving (Long Island), Bernard and Albert King (Brooklyn), Kenny Smith (Queens), Kenny Anderson (Queens), Mark Jackson (Brooklyn), Pearl Washington (Brooklyn), Rod Strickland (Bronx), Stephon Marbury (and a couple of his brothers played D-1, Brooklyn), Ron Artest (Queens), and some role players over the years. Carmelo Anthony was actually born in Brooklyn, and moved to Baltimore at age 9. Sebastian Telfair was actually the first small point guard to go to the NBA from high school, but he really wasn't ready. Stephenson has actually grown leaps and bounds in the last year, and will be a solid contributing player in the league. NY has never really sent a flood of players to the NBA. Most of the guys that have made the league were point guards, which is really what NY is known for producing.

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(05-30-2013 10:18 PM)iWin Wrote:  I think DWade is really hurting to be honest. Looks disinterested, but I think he may just be pacing himself. Bosh on the other hand has reverted to the soft player Toronto fans were all too familiar with. Why he doesn't attack the basketball with reckless abandon is beyond me. By far the most gifted big man in the series. But would rather make himself an average player by jacking trey balls all the time.

I disagree.

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(05-31-2013 12:00 AM)Timoteo Wrote:  
(05-30-2013 10:10 PM)iWin Wrote:  Random thought: Why has New York stopped producing elite NBA players, the last two with a crazy amount of hype(Telfair and Stephenson) turned out to just be average. Maybe Moe Harkless will develop into a stud.

NY has a history of producing great high school legends, but not really great pros. You can go back to Lenny Wilkins (is in the HOF as a player and coach from Brooklyn), Lew Alcindor/Kareem Abdul-Jabbar (NYC-Harlem), Julius Erving (Long Island), Bernard and Albert King (Brooklyn), Kenny Smith (Queens), Kenny Anderson (Queens), Mark Jackson (Brooklyn), Pearl Washington (Brooklyn), Rod Strickland (Bronx), Stephon Marbury (and a couple of his brothers played D-1, Brooklyn), Ron Artest (Queens), and some role players over the years. Carmelo Anthony was actually born in Brooklyn, and moved to Baltimore at age 9. Sebastian Telfair was actually the first small point guard to go to the NBA from high school, but he really wasn't ready. Stephenson has actually grown leaps and bounds in the last year, and will be a solid contributing player in the league. NY has never really sent a flood of players to the NBA. Most of the guys that have made the league were point guards, which is really what NY is known for producing.

You forgot Bob Cousy and Chris Mullin. Where's the love for the white boys?
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Bosh IS more gifted than Hibbert, but Hibbert is steadily improving and is playing better this series. They have different skill sets, and Hibbert is imposing himself.

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(05-31-2013 12:13 AM)Art Pimp Wrote:  
(05-31-2013 12:00 AM)Timoteo Wrote:  
(05-30-2013 10:10 PM)iWin Wrote:  Random thought: Why has New York stopped producing elite NBA players, the last two with a crazy amount of hype(Telfair and Stephenson) turned out to just be average. Maybe Moe Harkless will develop into a stud.

NY has a history of producing great high school legends, but not really great pros. You can go back to Lenny Wilkins (is in the HOF as a player and coach from Brooklyn), Lew Alcindor/Kareem Abdul-Jabbar (NYC-Harlem), Julius Erving (Long Island), Bernard and Albert King (Brooklyn), Kenny Smith (Queens), Kenny Anderson (Queens), Mark Jackson (Brooklyn), Pearl Washington (Brooklyn), Rod Strickland (Bronx), Stephon Marbury (and a couple of his brothers played D-1, Brooklyn), Ron Artest (Queens), and some role players over the years. Carmelo Anthony was actually born in Brooklyn, and moved to Baltimore at age 9. Sebastian Telfair was actually the first small point guard to go to the NBA from high school, but he really wasn't ready. Stephenson has actually grown leaps and bounds in the last year, and will be a solid contributing player in the league. NY has never really sent a flood of players to the NBA. Most of the guys that have made the league were point guards, which is really what NY is known for producing.

You forgot Bob Cousy and Chris Mullin. Where's the love for the white boys?

I knew there were some guys that I would forget. I was going totally off the top of my head. Obviously everyone should feel free to fill in the blanks...

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Why does Indiana insist on playing at such a slow pace? I understand that you want to feed the twin towers down low, but jesus christ if Paul George or George Hill are going to penetrate, they should at least do it a little faster to speed up the fluidity of the offense. Right now everything seems so predictable, and their slow pace is making it easy for Miami to trap their guards and double team any time West or Hibbert get the ball. The only guy who speeds up is Lance Stephenson, and that's why he is actually effective when he's not completely fucking up.
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(05-31-2013 01:14 AM)SHANbangs Wrote:  Why does Indiana insist on playing at such a slow pace? I understand that you want to feed the twin towers down low, but jesus christ if Paul George or George Hill are going to penetrate, they should at least do it a little faster to speed up the fluidity of the offense. Right now everything seems so predictable, and their slow pace is making it easy for Miami to trap their guards and double team any time West or Hibbert get the ball. The only guy who speeds up is Lance Stephenson, and that's why he is actually effective when he's not completely fucking up.

Teams tend to get locked into trying to constantly go to what they believe their strength is against a particular team, instead of simply playing. You should always be trying to push the ball and challenge an opponent's defense before it's set. If the easy opportunity isn't there, you pull it out and get into your halfcourt set. They have the athletes to attack, but are playing out of fear of turning into and up-and-down game because they fear that plays more to Miami's strength and tempo. It's a mistake.

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Bosh is a good player but I would pick at least 10 big men over him.

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(05-30-2013 10:30 PM)SHANbangs Wrote:  
(05-30-2013 10:24 PM)TheSlayer Wrote:  
(05-30-2013 10:18 PM)iWin Wrote:  I think DWade is really hurting to be honest. Looks disinterested, but I think he may just be pacing himself. Bosh on the other hand has reverted to the soft player Toronto fans were all too familiar with. Why he doesn't attack the basketball with reckless abandon is beyond me. By far the most gifted big man in the series. But would rather make himself an average player by jacking trey balls all the time.

He was hurting last year too but this year he just looks disinterested and playing like it's some regular season jerkoff game in the middle of March.

Last year he was playing with passion and still wanted to dominate.

I agree that Bosh is relying too much on just shooting outside jumpers. I am not sure though if that's on him or if Spo is just telling him to stay outside the point. He has the skill to drive and shoot an outside shot. Why not use both? He only had one game where he actually appeared to care and in that game he had 20 & 19 against Chicago in game 3.

In the end, if Miami loses all the blame will go on LeBron anyway but they are not going to beat the Spurs with Bosh and Wade playing this lackadaisical.

Maybe D-Wade lacks motivation. I always wondered how he could be so good natured about playing second fiddle to Lebron, when he was the original alpha dog for so long on the heat and won them their first championship. Maybe after winning one with Lebron, he no longer has the passion. What's the point of winning "not five, not six..." when they will all be remembered as Lebron's championships?

When they first got together, they struggled at times because their roles weren't really defined yet. They were both too conscious of stepping on each other's toes, and dealing with all of the "who's team is it" bullshit. Just because Wade was already there, and he had the 2006 ring and Finals MVP, he was labeled the Alpha Dog. Also, he got hurt in the preseason's first game I believe, and didn't play in any more preseason games, and missed a few games to start that first season. They didn't have much court time together to figure things out. Things were actually smoother when it was just LeBron as the unquestioned leader on the court before Wade finally played. Then they got into the "I'll take it this time down, you take it next" thing. Then it was the issue of who was going to take the final shot when necessary. Wade was considered a finisher, while LeBron struggled with that. Thus, Wade was considered Alpha Dog because he was considered the better finisher. It wasn't until Wade both mentally and verbally turned the team over to LeBron, because he is not only the best, most complete player, but is a much better facilitator than Wade EVER was. Previously, Wade was the Heat's primary ball handler because the was their best player overall, and was an attacker. He didn't really facilitate for others. His game is best suited to being off the ball and being able to attack. It seems to me that your best player/facilitator is the true Alpha Dog, because he's running the show. Since high school, LeBron has always been that guy. Just because he was shaky on big shots for a time, the media and fans had fun piling on him, calling him a bitch. Just because he joined Wade's team, it was believed that he couldn't be the Alpha Dog here.

Also, LeBron's whole "not 2, not 3, not 4..." comment wasn't a guarantee. It's annoying that the media keeps spinning it that way. All he was saying was that they weren't getting together to win just one, and that the goal was to win multiples (which is how the media defines great teams/players - by winning multiple titles). It was a celebration, and everyone was excited, but both LeBron and Wade knew how hard it was to not only win one, but to get back. Wade went from being a champion in '06, to losing in the first round the following year, to being on the worst team in the league the year after that. LeBron got the '07 Cavs to the finals, only to get swept, and not get a sniff of the finals since then. They both knew it wasn't going to be easy. They actually had NO business getting to the Finals in their first season together.

I think Wade's body just isn't right. I don't think he lacks hunger, or is struggling with his role as Robin, when he used to be Batman. They won last year because of his willingness to turn the team over to LeBron. He's a two-time champ because of it. His physical deterioration is more rapid than anyone could have anticipated. He may be at that stage where though he should still be a starter next season, Spo may have to monitor his minutes throughout the season to keep him fresh. Bosh has been a mystery. In year one, I understood his struggles because big guys are dependent players, and he and the others had to figure out where he best fit in. He went from being the focus of his team's offense to being the 3rd option, and not really having offense go through him. They solved it for the most part in year two, but now he's back to struggling, and I'm not sure it's purely his fault in this series. They're going overboard in trying to draw Hibbert away from the basket, when Bosh should actually be attacking him and forcing him to defend. Who cares if Hibbert blocks a shot or two. Make him play you.

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@Timoteo When I think about it NY has to be the most overrated hoops city in the league. I completely forgot that the Knicks have had like 2 championships or something like that in their entire existence. That's crazy because we always hear how great NY is when it comes to basketball period.

Btw how could you forget MJ was born in NY!
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(05-31-2013 10:16 AM)iWin Wrote:  @Timoteo When I think about it NY has to be the most overrated hoops city in the league. I completely forgot that the Knicks have had like 2 championships or something like that in their entire existence. That's crazy because we always hear how great NY is when it comes to basketball period.

Btw how could you forget MJ was born in NY!

NY being a hoops city isn't really about the Knicks. It's the sport of the city, period. I didn't forget MJ, but he was only born here, and his parents moved when he was a toddler to NC, so he isn't a New Yorker in my eyes. Anthony at least had a memory of NY...

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Yeah I know hoops culture is huge overall in NY(hence then being call the Mecca) I was referring just to their standing in the league. I would've thought that the franchise itself was more successful.
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The Knicks are just an extension of basketball in NYC. It's hard to hold the city responsible for the Knicks when the fate of a team is so closely tied to the sanity of the owner. Look at all the deadbeat owners in th league, their teams are perennially awful.

There are certain agencies representing players in the NBA who refuse to do business with the Knicks. When your business is predicated on making deals with only 30 companies and you blacklist one of those 30, you know the owner is certifiably insane. Think about that for a second.
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(05-30-2013 10:13 PM)TheSlayer Wrote:  
(05-30-2013 10:10 PM)iWin Wrote:  GOAT performance today by LeBron, and sadly he will need to do this at least 5 more times in order for them to win a championship.

Who knew the new Big 2 in Miami would be LeBron and Haslem during the playoffs?. He's not beating the Spurs on his own. Wade and Bosh need to wake the fuck up. Even as a basketball fan it is just frustrating to see supposed superstars play without any passion in the conference finals.

Food for thought:
2010 Supporting cast stats for the Cavs
Mo Williams 14-5-3 54%TS
Antoine Jamison 15-1-7 54% TS
Shaq 12-1-6 56%TS

Currently for the Heat
DWade 14-6-5 50% TS
Bosh 13-1-7 57% TS
Allen 10-1-3 56% TS
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(05-31-2013 03:28 PM)iWin Wrote:  
(05-30-2013 10:13 PM)TheSlayer Wrote:  
(05-30-2013 10:10 PM)iWin Wrote:  GOAT performance today by LeBron, and sadly he will need to do this at least 5 more times in order for them to win a championship.

Who knew the new Big 2 in Miami would be LeBron and Haslem during the playoffs?. He's not beating the Spurs on his own. Wade and Bosh need to wake the fuck up. Even as a basketball fan it is just frustrating to see supposed superstars play without any passion in the conference finals.

Food for thought:
2010 Supporting cast stats for the Cavs
Mo Williams 14-5-3 54%TS
Antoine Jamison 15-1-7 54% TS
Shaq 12-1-6 56%TS

Currently for the Heat
DWade 14-6-5 50% TS
Bosh 13-1-7 57% TS
Allen 10-1-3 56% TS

The thing is Mo Williams and Antoine Jamison were outstanding regular season players, but bitched up in the playoffs. Particularly Williams, who was brought in to be THAT GUY for LeBron. When the lights shined brightest, he shrunk, and even admitted to that on the eve of his second playoffs with Cleveland. He still went out there and came up short. The current supporting cast of Miami at least has guys that have done it before in the playoffs, and aren't coming through now for different reasons other than being bitches. The reasons don't matter though - they need to find their former selves if they end up in the Finals against SA, or just like in '07, LeBron will be going home in 4 games.

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New York City used to produce great pros. Now, New York only produces average pros.

Who is the last NBA all star from New York?

Carmelo doesn't count because he moved away at 8 years old. Joakim Noah was born in NY, spent about 10 years in Europe then returned to NY.

Who was the last great player born and raised in NY?

Right now, I think the best players in the world are coming from the Mid-West -- (Lebron, D-Wade, Z-Bo, D-Rose, Blake Griffin)

The South -- (Rando, KG, Bosh, CP3, D-Howard, Lamarcus Aldridge, Curry, David Lee)

And, overseas (Kobe, Duncan, Parker, Ginobili, Gasol, Luol Deng)

The Northeast has produced some great players -- (Durant, Melo, Kyrie Irving)

Don't forget California -- (Paul George, Westbrook, Tyson Chandler, James Harden, Brook Lopez, Jrue Holiday)

Those are all the NBA All Stars. None are born and raised in NY.

Is Ron Artest the last great player from New York?

Marbury had a chance but was too crazy. Telfair can't shoot. Stevenson has a chance to be good.

New York City is legendary in the history of basketball, but, they haven't won a championship since 1972 and they haven't had a great pro since....

Mullin? Artest? Kenny The Jet? Bernard King?

???

*****

The playoff are different. The pressure is so much greater. Those television cameras have a strong effect on the minds of most players. You know the entire world is watching you, literally. Thats a lot of pressure. Only those with rock solid, no bullshit belief in themselves will have consistent success. Thats why stars are stars, they can shine in any game, any time, any where.

All those guys that were playing loose and confident in the regular season are getting scared now. They don't want to shoot. They don't want to be the one who gets blamed. Thats what happened last night in Miami. The biggest star rose to the top.

Playoffs expose the truth. Playoffs expose your weakness -- Z-Bo is too fat, Marc Gasol is too soft, Tony Allen can't shoot, Blake Griffin can't post up, Chris Paul needs more help, Melo doesn't defend or rebound, J.R. Smith is mentally weak, the Thunder need Westbrook, etc.

There is nowhere to hide. Teams will attack your weakness.

"Pressure breaks pipes, but, it also creates diamonds"
(This post was last modified: 05-31-2013 04:44 PM by Giovonny.)
05-31-2013 04:40 PM
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