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(11-23-2013 07:34 PM)iWin Wrote:  Chicago should be fine without Rose in the short term(or maybe even beyond)because they really lock in defensively as they showed last yr when DRose missed the whole year. BKN is a train wreck and Derons ankles look to be deteriorating rapidly unfortunately, while JKidd looks lost out there.

Yeah, but the problem for Chicago isn't getting a playoff spot which they will even without Rose. The problem is that now this season they are likely going to lose in the first or second round with or without Rose. Whenever Rose comes back he is going to be even more tentative and take a while to get into a rhythm. He would have to come back by all-star break to have a chance at developing any sort of rhythm for the playoffs.

On another note, LeBron with the game winner tonight. That was a fluid midrange jumper. If he can elevate his midrange jumper to MJ like levels, he will be virtually unstoppable.

This season might be his best season yet (which is just astounding considering how good he was last season). He is now playing in the post with multiple moves unlike 2012, hitting 3s, hitting midrange jumpers, and still one of the best in the league at driving and finishing. Teams are now loading up on him quicker than ever and this is making him pass a lot more.

Right now for the season he's at 59/48/78. If he can finish with 55/45/80 I will be more than satisfied. This is historical for a wing with this much usage and volume.
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11-23-2013 10:25 PM
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Someone said it's those shitty Adidas that are bad for the knees, Vince Carter said his feet felt like shit when he signed with Puma and then he signed up with Nike. Maybe Rose should try playing in a pair of Nikes and see...

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LBJ is da man !

he is even being caricatured in major blockbuster movies.


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It's official

Quote:Derrick Rose out for the season with torn meniscus

Chicago Bulls point guard Derrick Rose will miss the rest of the 2013-14 season after having surgery Monday to repair a torn medial meniscus in his right knee.

The timetable on Rose's absence indicates he had the meniscus repaired and reattached and not removed or partially removed. Reparation is the preferred surgical option, but rehabilitation and recovery takes longer. The meniscus acts as a cushion for knee bones, and without, the chance of early arthritis and other problems increase.

"You want to save what's there. My guess is that you want to prolong the longevity of the career," orthopedic surgeon Alexis Colvin told USA TODAY Sports. She is an associate professor of orthopedics and a surgeon at the Icahn School of Medicine at Mount Sinai Hospital in New York.

Rehab and recovery time for a repaired meniscus is 3-6 months, and it is well-documented that Rose took his time returning from a torn anterior cruciate ligament sustained in his left knee during the 2012 NBA playoffs.

The surgery was performed by team physicians Brian Cole, who was part of the team who repaired Rose's left ACL, and Chuck Bush Joseph at Rush University Medical Center in Chicago.

Rose, who missed all of last season recovering from a torn ACL, sustained the injury in Friday's loss to the Portland Trail Blazers. It happened when he made a backdoor cut to the basket. The pass to Rose was stolen by Portland's Nicolas Batum and as Rose turned to go back on defense, his right knee buckled as he planted on his left foot.

"Like Bulls fans everywhere, I was heartbroken when I heard of Derrick's injury," Bulls owner Jerry Reinsdorf said Monday evening in a news release. "We are happy to know that, according to his doctors, his surgery was successful, and in time, Derrick is expected to make a full recovery. Everyone at the Bulls knows firsthand how extremely hard Derrick worked to return to the court this year, and I have no doubt he will do the same with regards to his recovery from this injury. Despite Derrick's absence, this is still a good team. I know from last year, this team and coaching staff will continue to make our fans proud."

It's another disappointing loss for the Bulls. Rose is one of league's most popular players — not among fans, but among players, too — as just as the NBA celebrated his return, it is lamenting his absence. Rose has been out of the lineup more often than he has been in it the past three seasons. When this season is over, Rose will have played in just 50 games in the past three seasons.

"We of course feel very badly for Derrick," Bulls coach Tom Thibodeau told news reporters Sunday before the Bulls' ugly 121-82 road loss against the Los Angeles Clippers. "I talked to him at length (Saturday) night. He's in good spirits — about as well as can be expected under the circumstances. And he's already thinking about his rehab and typical Derrick, concerned about his team (and) his teammates."

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Awful news about d-rose. I hope he can come back. It really hurts the East and pretty much guarantees Miami walks into the finals unless Indy can make somethig happen. I don't see NYM or Nets stopping them.

I feel that the d-rose situation is very similar to Brandon Roy... Similar type of pg so hopefully Rose doesn't have to walk away like Roy
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As a Bulls fan and a Chicago native, its a very sad thing that Rose got injured and will miss this season again. It must be devastating for him. Rose was that guy that Chicago fell in love with coming out of college who was the missing piece Bulls fans were looking for to take them to the promise land and win a post Michael Jordan championship. As explained by Stephen A Smith and Skip Bayless here:








Derrick Rose is finished in terms of being the D-Rose we once knew when he was MVP. I think he can come back and be a productive player and maybe a great player, but not the same D-Rose he once was. Its a sad time to be a Chicago sports fan right now.
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What was really troubling about the injury was that it was non-contact, and it isn't as if he jumped and landed wrong. He made a normal drive to the basket, and something popped. I'm wondering if he's got some kind of congenital issue in his knees that was brought out by his gaining more mass/muscle, along with the extra speed and physicality of the pro game. His whole game is his explosiveness, so how can he be the same player if he's worried about his knees going every time he turns it on? A big part of recovery from injury isn't physical, but the player's ability to mentally forget he was injured and play the way he normally does.

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Delete for edit. Moma made my Addias point already.

Anthony Davis will be next big Laker signing.

IMO
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(12-02-2013 09:33 PM)CaP7 Wrote:  Delete for edit. Moma made my Addias point already.

Anthony Davis will be next big Laker signing.

IMO

Don't see how that could happen. I'm pretty sure N.O. has the right to match any contract that's offered to him, and they're probably just fine with giving him a max deal. So the Lakers could only get him in a trade

And who are the lakers gonna trade for him? Farmar and Jordan Hill?
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Lakers are fine and all but this is just cheesy. He isn't Jesus or anything.

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(12-02-2013 10:35 PM)Sonsowey Wrote:  
(12-02-2013 09:33 PM)CaP7 Wrote:  Delete for edit. Moma made my Addias point already.

Anthony Davis will be next big Laker signing.

IMO

Don't see how that could happen. I'm pretty sure N.O. has the right to match any contract that's offered to him, and they're probably just fine with giving him a max deal. So the Lakers could only get him in a trade

And who are the lakers gonna trade for him? Farmar and Jordan Hill?

It's a new NBA. LeBron took less money. Howard took less money. Duncan took less money.

There's a good chance that New Orleans could still be going nowhere in 2 years when Anthony Davis's rookie contract is up. Not exactly the greatest NBA market in the world. L.A. will be wide open going into Kobe's last year.

It's just an educated guess anyways. The last time the Lakers didn't have a top 5 superstar was the Nick Van Excel years. Stars want to play in L.A.

One of the reasons the Lakers were right to take care of Kobe with the extension, is that it's a selling point for the next superstar.

Who wants to go to a team that cuts you when you get old? After you gave them all the blood, sweat, and tears. I'd want to be the next Magic, Kobe, etc., in L.A. over the next Tim Duncan in a small market like San Antonio. It's a big deal...
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Quote:One of the reasons the Lakers were right to take care of Kobe with the extension, is that it's a selling point for the next superstar.

Who wants to go to a team that cuts you when you get old? After you gave them all the blood, sweat, and tears. I'd want to be the next Magic, Kobe, etc., in L.A. over the next Tim Duncan in a small market like San Antonio. It's a big deal...

I don't think front office was thinking about that: Kobe is still putting up 27 ppg with 46& fg percentage at 35 y/o.

His production hasn't really declined so there's not basis to cut him...either he's a freak of nature or his conditioning regiment is insane.

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Or he's juicing.

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(12-08-2013 11:28 PM)Goldin Boy Wrote:  
Quote:One of the reasons the Lakers were right to take care of Kobe with the extension, is that it's a selling point for the next superstar.

Who wants to go to a team that cuts you when you get old? After you gave them all the blood, sweat, and tears. I'd want to be the next Magic, Kobe, etc., in L.A. over the next Tim Duncan in a small market like San Antonio. It's a big deal...

I don't think front office was thinking about that: Kobe is still putting up 27 ppg with 46& fg percentage at 35 y/o.

His production hasn't really declined so there's not basis to cut him...either he's a freak of nature or his conditioning regiment is insane.

You have to remember while Kobe had a great offensive season last year he is largely a one-way player now. His defense is non-existent and it will be interesting to see how much better/worse he gets on that end this year.

Also, I don't see Kobe averaging 27 PPG this season or in the future. Unless he is doing it at the cost of team-ball and efficiency. He is so skilled and talented that he can still probably do 23/5/5 easily but 27 PPG is a lot to ask for a 35 year old coming off an achilles injury.

I saw the game last night and it felt good to watch him. Of course, the rust is going to be there but it's always fun to watch all-time NBA greats. I give him 2-3 weeks/1 month to get into a basketball rhythm.
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(12-08-2013 11:28 PM)Goldin Boy Wrote:  His production hasn't really declined so there's not basis to cut him...either he's a freak of nature or his conditioning regiment is insane.

Both are true.

He is a "freak of nature" -- 6'6, 210 pounds of graceful, coordinated, athlete. That alone makes him a rare physical speciman. Add the fact that he has been obessed with basketball from birth, he studied the game and worked at his game harder than almost anyone in history. He trained his mind and body for fierce competition. How many men have done this? Not too many. He is a once in a generation player.

His "conditioning regime is insane" -- By "normal" standards, it is insane. It's not even his conditioning regimen, it's his way of life. He is one of the hardest workers in sports, he has a personal chef, a personal stretching/yoga man, a conditioning coach, the best tainers and medical treatment that money can buy. If you want to be the best in the world, you can not be normal. Better to be slightly insane. He learned form Michael.

It was interesting to see him play again. I thought it was cool how measured and slow he played. Very under control and never exploded with force. He was looking to pass.

Kobe is a selfish prick but you gotta respect his work ethic.
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Yep. Kobe will pass Kareem on the scoring list because of dedication. Like Kareem, he really took care of his body. Pretty much the polar opposite of Magic. It's a safe bet Kobe will never get HIV. I wouldn't be surprised if Kobe doesn't raw dog under any circumstances w/ any b other than his wife.
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(12-10-2013 03:14 PM)Rotisserie Wrote:  Yep. Kobe will pass Kareem on the scoring list because of dedication. Like Kareem, he really took care of his body. Pretty much the polar opposite of Magic. It's a safe bet Kobe will never get HIV. I wouldn't be surprised if Kobe doesn't raw dog under any circumstances w/ any b other than his wife.

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Random questions:

1. What is Rose's future? I think what is most damaging about his injuries is that he is missing two years of critical development on the floor.

2. Think the Nets can make some noise in the East?

3. Pacers > Heat?

4. Are these Trailblazers for real?

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(12-15-2013 03:19 AM)2Wycked Wrote:  Random questions:

1. What is Rose's future? I think what is most damaging about his injuries is that he is missing two years of critical development on the floor.

2. Think the Nets can make some noise in the East?

3. Pacers > Heat?

4. Are these Trailblazers for real?

1. Impossible to say, recovered fine from the ACL injury, and the meniscus isn't as serious of an injury. The bigger challenge will probably be mental.

2. No.

3. Not until they beat them in the playoffs.

4. Don't think so. They shoot mostly jumpshots and seem almost allergic to the paint. They also give up over 100 points a game. No way that gets it done against OKC and the Spurs. Fatigue is something to watch for later as well.
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Lance is ballin… Pacers are looking monstrous so far
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I love listening to Doug Collins talk about basketball.

Can't wait for Spurs-Rockets and Warriors-Spurs!!!
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Watched most of the games today, jesus Christ I thought I was watching AAU games. The current NBA play style is sad.
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Is it just me or does this guy play like he's from another planet? I'm not Minnesotan and I've hardly ever seen him play but the numbers and consistency seem extreme. Check this article (from his website so arguably promotional but seems like a solid analysis) which gives an idea of what he's like

http://kl42.com/basketball/how-love-puts...and-elgin/

He is only 25 and just entering his prime. He really only has 4 full seasons under his belt since he missed a lot of last season with a hand injury. In his 3rd season he had a 30-30 game, he's had a number of 30-20 games.

Love is a fan of Malcolm Gladwell and says he is committed to putting in 10,000 hours to master a step back 3. He's combining a cerebral approach with incredible natural ability plus his Dad who played in the NBA schooled him from childhood in the finer points of the game.

He should be taking it to another level in his late 20s which will be unlike anything the game has ever seen from a bigman. After this one, he has 1 more year on his contract then I predict the Lakers purchase him to take them into the post-Bryant era and they will build a team around him and win more championships.

Watch out for Love in the coming years. Too bad I never get to see him play and then soon enough when's a Laker, I'll loathe him anyway.
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