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(06-27-2014 06:22 PM)YoungDominican Wrote:  
(06-27-2014 06:02 PM)Kish Wrote:  The only stat that matters concerning Kobe and Lebron

Championship rings
Kobe 5

Lebron 2

And one of those championships was during a shortened season.

I was just about to recount the championship rings. ...
So 5 rings Kobe, Kobe is the victor.

It is settled then.

Horry (7) > MJ (6) > Kobe (5) > Lebron (2)

Yes, that seems right.

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(06-27-2014 06:28 PM)Rotisserie Wrote:  
(06-27-2014 06:22 PM)YoungDominican Wrote:  
(06-27-2014 06:02 PM)Kish Wrote:  The only stat that matters concerning Kobe and Lebron

Championship rings
Kobe 5

Lebron 2

And one of those championships was during a shortened season.

I was just about to recount the championship rings. ...
So 5 rings Kobe, Kobe is the victor.

It is settled then.

Horry (7) > MJ (6) > Kobe (5) > Lebron (2)

Yes, that seems right.

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razz Nah, let's not over do it here . Just saying that in the final comparison of clearly great players, it should be counted.

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(06-27-2014 06:21 PM)Moma Wrote:  
(06-27-2014 06:02 PM)Kish Wrote:  The only stat that matters concerning Kobe and Lebron

Championship rings
Kobe 5

Lebron 2

And one of those championships was during a shortened season.

Kobe has 2 rings as a leader (the focal point of the team). Minus the 3 with Shaq because even Kerry Kittles could have pulled 3 with Shaq, he was that dominant.

Lebron also has 2 rings as the focal point of the team.

So they are tied Banana

Lmao! Could Kerry Kittles win 2 back to back titles without shaq? Def not.

The haters used to say that shit back in the early days... that vince carter, AI, T-mac could have won with prime shaq. Which has been proven wrong.

Kobe smashed that old argument back in 2010.



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(06-27-2014 06:28 PM)Rotisserie Wrote:  
(06-27-2014 06:22 PM)YoungDominican Wrote:  
(06-27-2014 06:02 PM)Kish Wrote:  The only stat that matters concerning Kobe and Lebron

Championship rings
Kobe 5

Lebron 2

And one of those championships was during a shortened season.

I was just about to recount the championship rings. ...
So 5 rings Kobe, Kobe is the victor.

It is settled then.

Horry (7) > MJ (6) > Kobe (5) > Lebron (2)

Yes, that seems right.

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Jordan has 6 finals MVPs
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Ring counting is the worst type of analysis and a poor excuse for Kobe fans.

I mean Bill Russell is the GOAT right?

11>6, am I right people?

And you can't use the FMVP crap either. The FMVP is named after this man and was not an award for most of his rings. If FMVP was given out when he was playing he would have 7-9 of those.

As if Kobe winning a 6th ring would magically make him MJ's equal.

Nobody wants to hear this but peak Shaq (00-02) could have won rings with any decent wing (LeBron, young Wade, VC, TMac). Hell, Wade won with an end of prime Shaq in 06.

Not everyone can be lucky, get drafted by the Lakers and then get to play with probably the most dominant player ever at his peak.
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(06-27-2014 05:32 PM)Moma Wrote:  For the Lebron Haters, also realise that since he went to Miami, he took them to the finals 4 years in a row.

That's the thing right which Kobe fans will very conveniently forget. Kobe has played with good to great teams except for 3 years in his career. LeBron has played with good teams only for 4 years in his career (11 seasons).

Out of those 4 seasons he has 2 rings, 2 FMVPs, 2 MVPs, and 4 Finals appearances (I will even concede the last one should account for a weak East but still).

Rings are team accomplishments, all-time greats lead their teams but give any decent wing a peak Shaq and the result is more of the same.

As for YD saying LeBron now showing up in the last two playoffs runs, all I can say is what was he watching?

LeBron had one of the highest PERs in these Finals in the history of the game. Give credit to the Spurs. They spanked the Heat but they also completely neutralized a broken down Wade and Bosh is Bosh.

Kobe showed up with a 6/24 performance in game 7 of the 2010 Finals. That's really showing up.
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Is this the end of the Heat being a dominant team? With Lebron opting to go free agent, then followed by Wade and Bosh? If yes, where are they going to? What are some of the major moves that are about to materialize?

Interesting to see if the transfer season in the NBA is as crazy as the summer transfer movements in football in Europe.
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TBH, I never understood why Bosh was so heavily hyped as part of the Big 3. He never seems to do much. Granted I have only snapshots of his performance and have not bothered to look up his stats or individual rankings. Just a tall bad 3 point shooter.

I understand Wade. When healthy and a bit younger he was a killer.

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Is Kidd gone now for being greedy?

http://nypost.com/2014/06/28/denied-prom...ith-bucks/

A league source told The Post Kidd recently approached ownership with a series of demands, including the role of overseeing the Nets’ basketball operations department in addition to his head-coaching responsibilities. The source said Kidd didn’t want general manager Billy King to be dismissed, but wanted to be given a title and placed above him in the organizational hierarchy.

Ownership declined to grant Kidd that kind of power, which is rare for any coach in the league to have. The source said ownership felt Kidd wasn’t ready for that kind of responsibility after having only one year of coaching experience — the team finished his first season on the bench with a 44-38 record, good for sixth in the Eastern Conference — and allowed Kidd to seek other opportunities.

The franchise then was asked by the Bucks for permission to speak with Kidd about the prospect of hiring him and the Nets consented, making his departure from Brooklyn a sudden possibility. According to reports, the two teams already have been discussing possible compensation to release Kidd from the final three years of his original four-year, $10.5 million contract.
Kidd’s compensation has been dwarfed by Derek Fisher and Steve Kerr this offseason, who both received five-year, $25 million deals.
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Samsam, Boshs value is really in how he shapes their offense. If he is their 5 and Lebron is their 4, and they are spaced out, the other teams' bigs need to be away from the paint to guard them.

Drawing out the opposing teams' bigs creates openings in the paint, and is a huge reason that Lebron shoots something like 75% in the restricted area. Often hes simply getting really wide open looks at layups and dunks.

You saw how Hibbert, who stayed in the paint, was able to partially disrupt this aspect of Miamis game. But of course, in that series Bosh actually hit 3s, so its fine that Hibbert stayed down low and allowed Bosh open looks, since he is around 40% from 3.

Without a big man who can actually hit 3s, Lebron and Wade dont get nearly as many good looks inside.

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(06-29-2014 06:49 AM)JayMillz Wrote:  Is Kidd gone now for being greedy?

http://nypost.com/2014/06/28/denied-prom...ith-bucks/

A league source told The Post Kidd recently approached ownership with a series of demands, including the role of overseeing the Nets’ basketball operations department in addition to his head-coaching responsibilities. The source said Kidd didn’t want general manager Billy King to be dismissed, but wanted to be given a title and placed above him in the organizational hierarchy.

Ownership declined to grant Kidd that kind of power, which is rare for any coach in the league to have. The source said ownership felt Kidd wasn’t ready for that kind of responsibility after having only one year of coaching experience — the team finished his first season on the bench with a 44-38 record, good for sixth in the Eastern Conference — and allowed Kidd to seek other opportunities.

The franchise then was asked by the Bucks for permission to speak with Kidd about the prospect of hiring him and the Nets consented, making his departure from Brooklyn a sudden possibility. According to reports, the two teams already have been discussing possible compensation to release Kidd from the final three years of his original four-year, $10.5 million contract.
Kidd’s compensation has been dwarfed by Derek Fisher and Steve Kerr this offseason, who both received five-year, $25 million deals.

This is why you don't give your kid a Ferrari for his first car. Look at the narcism and delusion Kidd showed in even attempting to step to ownership with those demands. You gotta have rings and make finals to get that type of sway in a organization.. Not just make the playoffs in the East.. In your first year.

Either Kidd is the smartest guy in the room in knowing the room in knowing the Nets are sinking ship, or he is really off his tree. The stupidity of asking to be bumped up over your current boss, but still keeping him around, is telling. Billy King would be a idiot to stay if the Nets agreed to that move.
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Kidd just wants more power because Billy King is a shitty GM.
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(06-28-2014 05:08 PM)Vacancier Permanent Wrote:  Is this the end of the Heat being a dominant team? With Lebron opting to go free agent, then followed by Wade and Bosh? If yes, where are they going to? What are some of the major moves that are about to materialize?

Interesting to see if the transfer season in the NBA is as crazy as the summer transfer movements in football in Europe.

Ironically, the expectation is that they opt out to take less money and continue on with the Heat. This way they can have much more flexibility to sign free agents and add legit depth that they were clearly lacking this season. Expect them to make a run at some guards like Darren Collison or Kyle Lowry. Rumor is that they really want Lowry right now. Looks like that Spurs influence is rearing it's head again since Tim Duncan took a 50 percent pay cut awhile back to keep the team together(20M to 10M). The Big 3 are all making 20 million right now so if they all take a 50 percent pay cut, that leaves a ton of cap room to bring in quality players.
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Marcin Gortat is the most alpha player in the NBA right now. Fact.

This is how he showed up to practice today. Who can touch him?!?!

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There's this huge controversy right now in Chicago with Derrick Rose. It seems like he doesn't want to do any recruiting of Carmelo Anthony and any other Free Agent for that matter. Everybody is calling him a selfish brat and many are questioning his leadership. He has the chance to try to pitch Carmelo to Chicago or at least try to reach to him but he chooses not to and he's taking a big blow with Chicago fans also. He also stated that "he doesn't know" if he's coming back to play for team USA in the summer when a while back he said he will after saying he was 100%. Its like 2013 all over again when he said "I'm coming back" "Well, I'm not sure" "I'm not coming back".

I don't know what is going on with Rose but the guy needs to wake up. Even Joakim Noah was annoyed by Rose and told him through twitter to look at the bigger picture and to wake up.


Derrick Rose: No Longer face of Franchise in Chicago

Quote:With plenty of questions surrounding himself and the Chicago Bulls, point guard Derrick Rose is in about to hit the wake up call of his career. In speaking with Yahoo! Sports on Sunday, Rose said he doesn’t plan to recruit any free agents to Chicago, including superstar Carmelo Anthony, whom the Bulls are expected to be in major play for.

When asked about him recruiting players, Rose responded with a short comment, but an eye-opening one at that.

“It’s not my job.”

“My thing is if they want to come, they can come,”

Interesting, to say the least, Derrick Rose talking about doing his job. While certain circumstances beyond his control (injuries) have held him to 10 games over the last two seasons, and a total of 50 games over the past three. Interesting, to say the least that Rose is calling the shots, while head coach Tom Thibodeau, general manager Gar Forman, and Joakim Noah from a player’s standpoint, have been the one putting in all the work.

It starts with Noah and on the court, as these last two seasons, Noah’s play, especially in 2013-14 in which he won the Defensive Player Of the Year award, have also led him to the new fan favorite. Even more so than the fan favorite, Joakim Noah has by default, or by production, become the face of the Chicago Bulls franchise. With Rose, the 2011 NBA’s Most Valuable Player, has lost the “most valuable” title on his team in 2014.

It’s not Rose’s fault that he hasn’t played much over the last three seasons, injuries have derailed some of the league’s best players, but the Bulls haven’t held on to the past. Head coach Tom Thibodeau has seen a revolving door of point guards and role players step up in Rose’s absence and lead the Bulls to the playoffs each of the last two years.



The last time Bulls fans saw Derrick Rose, this was his lasting image. (Photo credit: USATSI)
The last time Bulls fans saw Derrick Rose, this was his lasting image. (Photo credit: USATSI)

So while Rose hasn’t been doing his job as a player, Joakim Noah has been excelling at his, taking over as the face of the franchise, and Tom Thibodeau has continued to have success at his job, without one of the league’s best players on the court.

Realistically, Rose has a point, it’s not his job to recruit potential free agents to the Bulls, but it’s a move a leader, or even just a team player would do. While not every team has had their star player step up and recruit free agents, we’ve seen it among some of the league’s top teams in recent seasons.

Chandler Parsons was a main key in recruiting Dwight Howard to Houston last year and in 2010, a failed attempt, was still an attempt as Chris Paul made a toast for himself, Amar’e Stoudemire, and Carmelo Anthony to play together for the New York Knicks. We don’t even need to mention the recruiting job of LeBron James, Dwyane Wade, and Chris Bosh.

Simply put, the effort has been made by some superstars, and some players like Parsons, just coming into their own.

So, what is Rose’s issue with putting in a phone call? Yes, he should be focused on returning from two major knee surgeries that has limited him over the last three years, but he should also be focused on making the Chicago Bulls, the best possible team they can be.

While Rose’s confidence in his ability to return to elite level, and statements that he can play with anybody are nice, putting it out there that you won’t be recruiting, hurts your team more than it helps yourself. If Carmelo Anthony is serious about joining the Chicago Bulls, he does have one current player, Joakim Noah (face of the franchise), who wants him to come play in Chicago.

The new face of the Chicago Bulls franchise. Photo credit: (Andrew D. Bernstein/Getty Images)
The new face of the Chicago Bulls franchise. Photo credit: (Andrew D. Bernstein/Getty Images)

He’s a former MVP, a former elite player in the NBA, but Rose has to work back to getting those titles back. It seems that only Rose has continued to live off his past success while Tom Thibodeau, Joakim Noah, and general manager Gar Forman, have moved into the present of 2014, and are coming together to make the Bulls a better team.

There’s no denying the talent and production Rose brings when healthy, but a team leader and the face of the franchise, doesn’t sit on his hands when there’s a chance to make the organization better. Sure, if a free agent wants to sign with Chicago bad enough, they will, but what will their comfort level be with Rose’s lack of communication?

The face of the franchise isn’t just a guy who produces on the court, brings awards, or even makes an impact in the community, the face of the franchise is a leader, he sacrifices, and does what it takes to make not only himself, but his team even better.

Derrick Rose has chosen from his words, to not be proactive in recruiting, that’s his right, but a leader and a face of a franchise, doesn’t make those comments.

Photo credit: (Jim Young/Reuters)
Photo credit: (Jim Young/Reuters)

In the 2014-15 season, no matter who decides to sign with the Bulls this off-season Rose has three major obstacles facing him: return to full health, play at an elite level, and prove not just to his teammates and front office, but prove to Chicago that he is a leader, and doesn’t mind sharing the spotlight.

There can even be speculation of this Joakim Noah tweet, is this a statement towards Rose’s comments or a call out for Carmelo to sign with Chicago? If directed at Rose, there’s your wake up call Mr. MVP.


I doubt Carmelo Anthony will come after this.
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(06-30-2014 09:28 PM)redbeard Wrote:  Marcin Gortat is the most alpha player in the NBA right now. Fact.

This is how he showed up to practice today. Who can touch him?!?!


Kobe takes a helicopter to practice. top that:
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(06-30-2014 09:46 PM)MidWest Wrote:  There's this huge controversy right now in Chicago with Derrick Rose. It seems like he doesn't want to do any recruiting of Carmelo Anthony and any other Free Agent for that matter. Everybody is calling him a selfish brat and many are questioning his leadership. He has the chance to try to pitch Carmelo to Chicago or at least try to reach to him but he chooses not to and he's taking a big blow with Chicago fans also. He also stated that "he doesn't know" if he's coming back to play for team USA in the summer when a while back he said he will after saying he was 100%. Its like 2013 all over again when he said "I'm coming back" "Well, I'm not sure" "I'm not coming back".

I don't know what is going on with Rose but the guy needs to wake up. Even Joakim Noah was annoyed by Rose and told him through twitter to look at the bigger picture and to wake up.


Derrick Rose: No Longer face of Franchise in Chicago

Quote:With plenty of questions surrounding himself and the Chicago Bulls, point guard Derrick Rose is in about to hit the wake up call of his career. In speaking with Yahoo! Sports on Sunday, Rose said he doesn’t plan to recruit any free agents to Chicago, including superstar Carmelo Anthony, whom the Bulls are expected to be in major play for.

When asked about him recruiting players, Rose responded with a short comment, but an eye-opening one at that.

“It’s not my job.”

“My thing is if they want to come, they can come,”

Interesting, to say the least, Derrick Rose talking about doing his job. While certain circumstances beyond his control (injuries) have held him to 10 games over the last two seasons, and a total of 50 games over the past three. Interesting, to say the least that Rose is calling the shots, while head coach Tom Thibodeau, general manager Gar Forman, and Joakim Noah from a player’s standpoint, have been the one putting in all the work.

It starts with Noah and on the court, as these last two seasons, Noah’s play, especially in 2013-14 in which he won the Defensive Player Of the Year award, have also led him to the new fan favorite. Even more so than the fan favorite, Joakim Noah has by default, or by production, become the face of the Chicago Bulls franchise. With Rose, the 2011 NBA’s Most Valuable Player, has lost the “most valuable” title on his team in 2014.

It’s not Rose’s fault that he hasn’t played much over the last three seasons, injuries have derailed some of the league’s best players, but the Bulls haven’t held on to the past. Head coach Tom Thibodeau has seen a revolving door of point guards and role players step up in Rose’s absence and lead the Bulls to the playoffs each of the last two years.



The last time Bulls fans saw Derrick Rose, this was his lasting image. (Photo credit: USATSI)
The last time Bulls fans saw Derrick Rose, this was his lasting image. (Photo credit: USATSI)

So while Rose hasn’t been doing his job as a player, Joakim Noah has been excelling at his, taking over as the face of the franchise, and Tom Thibodeau has continued to have success at his job, without one of the league’s best players on the court.

Realistically, Rose has a point, it’s not his job to recruit potential free agents to the Bulls, but it’s a move a leader, or even just a team player would do. While not every team has had their star player step up and recruit free agents, we’ve seen it among some of the league’s top teams in recent seasons.

Chandler Parsons was a main key in recruiting Dwight Howard to Houston last year and in 2010, a failed attempt, was still an attempt as Chris Paul made a toast for himself, Amar’e Stoudemire, and Carmelo Anthony to play together for the New York Knicks. We don’t even need to mention the recruiting job of LeBron James, Dwyane Wade, and Chris Bosh.

Simply put, the effort has been made by some superstars, and some players like Parsons, just coming into their own.

So, what is Rose’s issue with putting in a phone call? Yes, he should be focused on returning from two major knee surgeries that has limited him over the last three years, but he should also be focused on making the Chicago Bulls, the best possible team they can be.

While Rose’s confidence in his ability to return to elite level, and statements that he can play with anybody are nice, putting it out there that you won’t be recruiting, hurts your team more than it helps yourself. If Carmelo Anthony is serious about joining the Chicago Bulls, he does have one current player, Joakim Noah (face of the franchise), who wants him to come play in Chicago.

The new face of the Chicago Bulls franchise. Photo credit: (Andrew D. Bernstein/Getty Images)
The new face of the Chicago Bulls franchise. Photo credit: (Andrew D. Bernstein/Getty Images)

He’s a former MVP, a former elite player in the NBA, but Rose has to work back to getting those titles back. It seems that only Rose has continued to live off his past success while Tom Thibodeau, Joakim Noah, and general manager Gar Forman, have moved into the present of 2014, and are coming together to make the Bulls a better team.

There’s no denying the talent and production Rose brings when healthy, but a team leader and the face of the franchise, doesn’t sit on his hands when there’s a chance to make the organization better. Sure, if a free agent wants to sign with Chicago bad enough, they will, but what will their comfort level be with Rose’s lack of communication?

The face of the franchise isn’t just a guy who produces on the court, brings awards, or even makes an impact in the community, the face of the franchise is a leader, he sacrifices, and does what it takes to make not only himself, but his team even better.

Derrick Rose has chosen from his words, to not be proactive in recruiting, that’s his right, but a leader and a face of a franchise, doesn’t make those comments.

Photo credit: (Jim Young/Reuters)
Photo credit: (Jim Young/Reuters)

In the 2014-15 season, no matter who decides to sign with the Bulls this off-season Rose has three major obstacles facing him: return to full health, play at an elite level, and prove not just to his teammates and front office, but prove to Chicago that he is a leader, and doesn’t mind sharing the spotlight.

There can even be speculation of this Joakim Noah tweet, is this a statement towards Rose’s comments or a call out for Carmelo to sign with Chicago? If directed at Rose, there’s your wake up call Mr. MVP.


I doubt Carmelo Anthony will come after this.

i think this is much ado about nothing. technically, players are not supposed to talk to other players about free agency shit. So he's just protecting his ass legally. You bet your ass he will do recruiting behind the scenes.

I mean, fuck, it's yahoo sports, and there's very little nba action going on. Reporters gotta put out some story.
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Things got a lot more interesting for the Heat. LeBron reportedly now wants the max while Bosh wants around 15-16 mil. Dwade probably wants somewhere between that figure, so it's hard to envision that they'll have a lot of lattitude to bring in another stud player or two, without going over the luxury tax significantly. Should be interesting to see how this unfolds.
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Isn't Haslam a free agent also? Riley has his work cut out for him.
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Haslem has opted out too. I trust the Miami Mafia is up to something. I see two situations unfolding, either:

1. Big 3 all want more money. Miami is choked out of adding other pieces. Then, either they all leave or they all stay and add no pieces. Either way the team goes to shit.

2. Pat Riley is a genius and has this planned out. Haslem takes a hush hush Juwan Howard coaching deal. Big 3 take very little money. A big name center and PG get signed while Birdman and Chalmers get cut.
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(06-30-2014 09:28 PM)redbeard Wrote:  Marcin Gortat is the most alpha player in the NBA right now. Fact.

This is how he showed up to practice today. Who can touch him?!?!

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Marcin strikes me as a very solid Polish basketball player. In solid, I am referring to his physical prowess and overall toughness. I was in slight awe from him during the series Orlando vs Boston where Marquis Daniels got a concussion by bumping his head into Marcin's rib cage. How you concuss a professional athlete by merely sticking your arms in the air to take the charge??

When Dwight Howard concussed Glen 'Big Baby' Davis, it's because he was swinging those elbows of his as usual on a rebound.

Apparently Marcin's dad was a boxer so he grew up taking a few from the old man.

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This is on the side of the United Center in Chicago next to the Jordan statue. The pitch for Carmelo to come to Chicago is already underway.
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Definitely agree - Gortat is the type of down low player that I like. Hard-nosed, pounds the paint, clears the floor. I like all these finesse players but the big dudes just wrecking havoc really entertain me. I love Karl Malone. No one like him.

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I guess that's why I don't like watching soccer. These guys get a little 'bow to the face and start rolling around.

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Look at this beast. This guy's the man. I wish they would've done better in the playoffs this year.
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OKC looks set to sign... no one.

That team will be KD, Russ, Ibaka, Perkins, Nick Collison, and everyone else is on rookie deals.

Honestly they are really really ballsy trying this, that's really insulting to their good players to field a team this incomplete. They talk about building talent through the draft, and Jackson and Adams have been good, but to not want to sign even 1 guy who can actually make an impact...

Anyone think OKC has a shot this year? I am doubting more and more.

KD Russ and Ibaka will all hopefully be a bit better. Reggie Jackson and Steven Adams are definitely good and should improve as well.

Then they have 3 new rookies this year, and Jeremy Lamb, Perry Jones and Andre Roberson, who all didn't play much last year. Looks like they will have to rely on at least 2 of these guys.

Not to mention that KD actually played more minutes than anyone by FAR last year, and looked straight exhausted in the playoffs. From when he was slaughtering every team in the winter without Russ to his playoff performance, he definitely lost a lot of energy. He was shooting worse %s and missed lots of open looks.

Dude needs some rest, but their coach rides him too hard. They got Perry Jones and Huestis who are both able to play the 3, so hopefully KD can actually take more than 5 minutes of rest a game this year.

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