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Feminist's son (nearly) destroyed by system she built to harm other men
Judith Grossman, hardcore feminist, has a son who was falsely accused of rape and very nearly had his life destroyed by the kangaroo courts at his university. She talks about it in the WSJ today:

Quote:"I am a feminist. I have marched at the barricades, subscribed to Ms. magazine, and knocked on many a door in support of progressive candidates committed to women's rights. Until a month ago, I would have expressed unqualified support for Title IX and for the Violence Against Women Act.

But that was before my son, a senior at a small liberal-arts college in New England, was charged—by an ex-girlfriend—with alleged acts of "nonconsensual sex" that supposedly occurred during the course of their relationship a few years earlier."

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"The frightening answer is that like the proverbial 800-pound gorilla, the tribunal does pretty much whatever it wants, showing scant regard for fundamental fairness, due process of law, and the well-established rules and procedures that have evolved under the Constitution for citizens' protection. Who knew that American college students are required to surrender the Bill of Rights at the campus gates?"

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424...%3Darticle

Paul Elam wastes little time before fucking her shit up:

Quote:"She closes her article, which simmered and seethed from start to finish, in a state of bewilderment, lamenting that the pursuit of women’s rights combined with politically motivated government policy is turning our schools into a “snake pit of injustice.”

That is a very strong condemnation – coming from a fucking snake.

Judith Grossman is just now finding out about one, and just one, of the many tertiary stage products of a narcissistic ideology that has run amok with her blind enabling for her entire adult life. She, rather her son, is paying the price for a half century of hatred disguised as women’s rights advocacy, and so suddenly she is filled with indignation and outrage. She wonders aloud how all this could have happened. She wonders what possibly have gone so wrong, right under her nose.

Fuck you, Judith Grossman. Fuck you right where you stand."

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It's obviously really fucked up that this happened to an innocent man---but it shouldn't escape notice that she wouldn't give a fuck at all if this had happened to anyone else. People like her built the system to destroy other people's sons, never thinking their kids would be targeted.

In a way, this reminds me of the draconian drug laws we have in this country. Nobody gave a motherfuck when only young black men were going to prison on that shit. But now that more and more guys who look like Michael Phelps are taking the rap we're hearing all type of shit about drug reform.

Glad she's (somewhat) awakened to the truth, but this bitch can still drop dead.
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This is how I think the old guard of feminism will start to drop it.

The young guard, the daughters will see what shit their mothers went through and may not even pick it up.

Time is on our side.
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This is why the feminine mind is incompatible with justice - for the feminine mind, whether a policy is appropriate hinges on how it affects her and her tribe. This woman would never have criticized feminism had her son not gotten attacked. Feminine solipsism 101. If a humdrum example of the system running according to plan is enough to reverse your beliefs, well, that doesn't speak very well of you.

I say 'feminine' because there are many men with a mindset like this, and some women who don't.
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Pretty obvious. feminism is all about teh self interest of women. they want to get whatever job they want, do what they want, have power over men using whatever means necassary etc.... However their self interest suddenly changes when they have a son and negative aspects of feminism impact them. I am quite sure many feminists opinions will blunt and soften with the birth of a son. Equally the same could happen for the guys on this forum were they to ahve a daughter.
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This just in, sisterhood isn't real!
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(04-17-2013 05:39 PM)Walderschmidt Wrote:  This just in, sisterhood isn't real!

Blood is thicker than gender...

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(04-17-2013 06:00 PM)Samseau Wrote:  
(04-17-2013 05:39 PM)Walderschmidt Wrote:  This just in, sisterhood isn't real!

Blood is thicker than gender...

I know it seems like a facetous post, but the spirit comes from this post by Ian Ironwood.

Still agree with what you say, though.
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This is yet another example of what I was saying in the cupcake thread, and what Emmanuel Goldstein noted above: women are not capable of forming an objective judgment of the world. The female notion of justice is not something that is just and fair to all parties, but rather "something that gives the outcome that I want." It is an entirely subjective notion.

This woman could have read case after case of men being accused of rape with zero evidence over the past two decades, and never batted an eye, because those cases had no personal connection to her. Yet as soon as her son falls victim, she's sounding the alarm and acting amazed - just amazed - that this sort of thing is going on.

You actually see this all the time with women, in every facet of life. Ever notice how women whose children die prematurely due to a disease or an accident (car, gun, drowning, etc...) so often become crusaders against the thing that killed their child? Suddenly it's the worst thing in the world to them, yet before it hadn't even registered on their radar.

In the female mind, nothing is real or important until it affects them personally.

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(04-17-2013 06:04 PM)scorpion Wrote:  This is yet another example of what I was saying in the cupcake thread, and what Emmanuel Goldstein noted above: women are not capable of forming an objective judgment of the world. The female notion of justice is not something that is just and fair to all parties, but rather "something that gives the outcome that I want." It is an entirely subjective notion.

This woman could have read case after case of men being accused of rape with zero evidence over the past two decades, and never batted an eye, because those cases had no personal connection to her. Yet as soon as her son falls victim, she's sounding the alarm and acting amazed - just amazed - that this sort of thing is going on.

You actually see this all the time with women, in every facet of life. Ever notice how women whose children die prematurely due to a disease or an accident (car, gun, drowning, etc...) so often become crusaders against the thing that killed their child? Suddenly it's the worst thing in the world to them, yet before it hadn't even registered on their radar.

In the female mind, nothing is real or important until it affects them personally.


Yes. The mindset you've described here can be readily distilled into that old feminists chestnut, "The personal is political". This really just means that whatever she feels is right, is right. If something makes her feel bad or uncomfortable it is wrong and the gov't or someone, somewhere, should doing something to put a stop to it and it doesn't matter if just the day before she was cool with it.

Too many men think this way, too---but I agree that is generally a feminine mode of thought.
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A woman who rides the cock carousel and brlieves that every man is a jerk eventually realizes that she will give birth to her own jerk. That has to be cause for some reflection.
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I thought the problem of feminists having male children was being solved by all those cases of lesbian couples having a male son who "completely of his own volition" declares himself a transsexual at the age of 5.
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Hahahahahaha!!! I saw a similar thing happen with a feminist manager of my old company we'll call Jane. She was so feminist she taught a course at the local college that was said to inspire several female students to leave their husbands for women. I've been waiting to tell the following story!!!

Jane had a son we'll call Matt. He was my age and we were college students just starting at the company his mom helped run. But Matt was raised by his mom to be a total wimp and be henpecked. At around 20, he fell for a slightly older girl in our office we all avoided because she was the most controlling nasty little bitch ever. Needless to say, she was a pre-law major. Jane LOVED her and couldn't wait to have the bitchy daughter-in-law in the family and/or promote her in the company. Grrl power!!

Scroll ahead a few years. The bitch became a lawyer, divorced Matt and took the kids far away. Word around the office was that Jane was devastated because she no longer could see her grandkids. Even though Jane had made several million $$$, she found her high-priced lawyer was no match for the female-centric family law system -- a system she used to champion.

Now scroll to the present. I found Matt's Facebook page. He's no longer the doughy, sad-eyed wimp. He's buff as hell, has a goatee and cool hair and now has a pleasant-looking Asian wife 15 years younger. Also in the photos was Jane looking happy as hell with her little half-Asian grandkids -- as the new Asian wife beams up at Matt. There were NO PICS of his nasty first wife or his first two kids who are apparently now property of Wife #1.

At some point, I assume, Matt must have said "You know what, Mom? Fuck this. Everything you taught me was wrong." And his mom must have said "You're right son. I'm sorry."

True story -- I'm tempted to steal the pics and post them, but not into lawsuits lodged against me by the rich.
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(04-17-2013 07:18 PM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:  True story -- I'm tempted to steal the pics and post them, but not into lawsuits lodged against me by the rich.

Great story.

Steal the pics now, and post them in a few years from now when you've safely distanced yourself from them.

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(04-17-2013 07:39 PM)Samseau Wrote:  
(04-17-2013 07:18 PM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:  True story -- I'm tempted to steal the pics and post them, but not into lawsuits lodged against me by the rich.

Great story.

Steal the pics now, and post them in a few years from now when you've safely distanced yourself from them.

I'm tempted, but no, because beyond lawsuits I don't want to do anything to bother this guy since he went through serious rough times with Wife #1. But I HAVE to share this FB comment exchange under his wedding pic:

There is a pic of him and his smiling bride, who looks out-and-out sexy, not like the usual made-up robo-brides of today. One of his friends comments "Well done, Matt!" And SHE replies "Thank you!" In other words: "Thanks for objectifying me as being a prize for him!"

This might not seem a big deal to you all, but if you knew him and his chubby little bridezilla in their twenties this would be like seeing Bill Gates morph into George Clooney.
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Everybody is like this. Just don't fucking say it loud if you can't back it up with your own action.

egSmile this parents advocates gay rights publicly. Now would they allow this flamboyant gay guy tutor their son?

I don't want a gay guy teach my son. But I wouldn't act like I support them either just to make myself look open-minded. Of course, people who would act the same way, will still get offended by my comment. 'oh what's wrong with gays teaching your children' (fuck you, you are the same as me)
What you should do is, don't talk about it and when gay guys apply to be a tutor, just make some excuses and not hire him.
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ha. the irony. that's what the bitch gets.
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(04-18-2013 07:26 AM)JoyStick Wrote:  ha. the irony. that's what the bitch gets.


Well, not really. After all, nothing happened to her--it was her son that was put through the ringer.
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(04-18-2013 07:20 AM)Sebastian Wrote:  Everybody is like this. Just don't fucking say it loud if you can't back it up with your own action.

egSmile this parents advocates gay rights publicly. Now would they allow this flamboyant gay guy tutor their son?

I don't want a gay guy teach my son. But I wouldn't act like I support them either just to make myself look open-minded. Of course, people who would act the same way, will still get offended by my comment. 'oh what's wrong with gays teaching your children' (fuck you, you are the same as me)
What you should do is, don't talk about it and when gay guys apply to be a tutor, just make some excuses and not hire him.
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I don't agree, really. It's possible to support gay marriage...and still think two guys making out is fucking gross. In fact, that's my position. I don't see why this is hypocrisy.

And I don't have kids but I do have younger siblings...I don't I think would have a problem with a gay tutor teaching them.
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I agree with many of the Wall Street Journal comments that the real problem is the campus kangaroo court. You have a bunch of students and administrators with no legal understanding. The Wall Street Journal previously championed a Jewish student at Penn who called some loud, black women "water buffaloes".

Water Buffalo Incident

Campus cases also include cheating.

Harvard Cheating Scandal

There are problems of underprosecution and overprosecution. Amherst got heat for not letting a girl transfer dorms after reporting a date-rape case one year late.

Amherst Rape Case

Basically lazy administrators want to minimize disruption and downplay charges until some something explodes. The next guy accused of date rape at Amherst will get crucified. But Harvard will ignore cheating for a while.
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duh? what's wrong with two humans who love each other kissing in public?

Can you tell those guys 'I support you guys marriage but just don't do anything physical in public, it's gross' Huh


(04-18-2013 08:30 AM)dragnet Wrote:  
(04-18-2013 07:20 AM)Sebastian Wrote:  Everybody is like this. Just don't fucking say it loud if you can't back it up with your own action.

egSmile this parents advocates gay rights publicly. Now would they allow this flamboyant gay guy tutor their son?

I don't want a gay guy teach my son. But I wouldn't act like I support them either just to make myself look open-minded. Of course, people who would act the same way, will still get offended by my comment. 'oh what's wrong with gays teaching your children' (fuck you, you are the same as me)
What you should do is, don't talk about it and when gay guys apply to be a tutor, just make some excuses and not hire him.
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I don't agree, really. It's possible to support gay marriage...and still think two guys making out is fucking gross. In fact, that's my position. I don't see why this is hypocrisy.

And I don't have kids but I do have younger siblings...I don't I think would have a problem with a gay tutor teaching them.
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(04-18-2013 03:52 PM)Sebastian Wrote:  duh? what's wrong with two humans who love each other kissing in public?

Can you tell those guys 'I support you guys marriage but just don't do anything physical in public, it's gross' Huh

Gore Vidal, one of many gay opponents of gay marriage, had this to say in response to such romantic sentiments. From an interview with the Times of London from 2009, in response to a question about a supposed love of his life:

“Don’t make the error that schoolteacher idiots make by thinking that gay men’s relationships are like heterosexual ones. They’re not.”
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(04-18-2013 03:52 PM)Sebastian Wrote:  duh? what's wrong with two humans who love each other kissing in public?

Can you tell those guys 'I support you guys marriage but just don't do anything physical in public, it's gross' Huh


(04-18-2013 08:30 AM)dragnet Wrote:  I don't agree, really. It's possible to support gay marriage...and still think two guys making out is fucking gross. In fact, that's my position. I don't see why this is hypocrisy.

And I don't have kids but I do have younger siblings...I don't I think would have a problem with a gay tutor teaching them.

What??

Go back and what I actually wrote, word for word. Read exactly what I wrote and please do not add any subtext. I've even taken the liberty of bolding it for you above.

Yes, I think two men making out in public is gross. No, I don't think they should be denied civil marriage rights (i.e., the right to see each on their hospital deathbeds, etc).

So, yes, I support gay marriage and you can make out in public if you want...but it's still gross. There is nothing confusing or contradictory about that.
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This is a great thread full of wisdom
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