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(05-02-2018 10:28 AM)Matt3B Wrote:  "Liverpool shouldn't be talking about refs" Laugh Laugh

Look at the penalty given away against Roma and the same 2 incidents that happened against Madrid last night where Bayern weren't given pens. Also, look at the Liverpool match at the weekend where an even more obvious penalty wasn't awarded. Let's not mention the Harry Kane debacle again either.

I can't even remember the last time Liverpool were given a pen.

Every team that plays Madrid in the Champions League has to worry about the ref. Liverpool will beat them anyway.

In regards to hooliganism, if you think it's just the English that Roma fans target, why not look back to the time that a Napoli fan was killed before the Italian cup final in 2014, by a Roma fan whose team wasn't even playing. Sure, the English are targeted, but it's not just the English that have to face the wrath of the arse stabbers.

And? Did anyone say, Real Madrid advanced because they deserved it? I also said that refs protected Real Madrid against us and also against Bayern.

Just because refs protected Real Madrid against Bayern/Juve, doesn't mean they have to protect Liverpool as well.

I just listed 4 incidents went in favor of Liverpool against City.

There were 2 clear penalties for Roma today against Liverpool + one red card. It wasn't given. You'll see in final how those calls will be called in favor of Real Madrid in the final mrgreen But refs took Liverpool to final anyway, I don't think they'll have nerves to complain.

In regards of hooliganism, did I ever give you an example about English fighting against English? No. Why are you giving me Napoli as an example? It's out of the question because North Italy vs South Italy have domestic problem.

Italians always fight against English, just like rest of the world. Did you ever see Italians fighting against Spanish? No.

Did we see English fans fight against Spanish, Italians, Russians, French, Turkish etc? Yes.

So, it's English fans fault, not anyone else's. Because it's the English who cause the trouble. Can you tell me any other nation in Europe, whose away fans go for friendly in Amsterdam and end up getting locked 100 of them?

I don't think so. Even English manager Soutgate is tired of criticizing his own fans.
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You're not making any coherent points. A Liverpool fan is lying in a coma because he was attacked by 2 Roma fans. 6 years ago, a Spurs fan was stabbed in Rome.

Then you say that it's the English's fault, because they're the common denominator in these events. YES, because they're being attacked. The common denominator isn't always the problem.

You are seriously delusional, seek help. I know Italy not qualifying for the World Cup hurt you, but I didn't realise it would be this bad.
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(05-03-2018 05:22 AM)britchard Wrote:  You're not making any coherent points. A Liverpool fan is lying in a coma because he was attacked by 2 Roma fans. 6 years ago, a Spurs fan was stabbed in Rome.

Then you say that it's the English's fault, because they're the common denominator in these events. YES, because they're being attacked. The common denominator isn't always the problem.

You are seriously delusional, seek help. I know Italy not qualifying for the World Cup hurt you, but I didn't realise it would be this bad.

Exactly, Spurs and Liverpool are English teams, aren't they?

Why didn't Roma fans attack Atletico Madrid fans? Why didn't they attack Shakhtar fans? Why didn't they attack Barcelona fans?

Bayern came to Rome and beat Roma 1-7 few years ago. Why didn't Roma fans attack German fans?

Why did Turks stab and kill English fans only? Did they ever kill German, Italian, Spanish or Russian? No.

Why do Russians come all the way to France and they only attacked English fans in Marseille? Why did French only fight against English in Paris as well?

List goes on.

If the common denominator is English, there is a reason why mrgreen Do you guys ever ask this question to yourself: "Why is it always happening against us? Are we doing something wrong?"
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Well since we're on a violence theme, Arsenal's hopes of Champions League football next year just got murdered in Madrid.
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(05-03-2018 04:40 PM)Matsufubu Wrote:  Well since we're on a violence theme, Arsenal's hopes of Champions League football next year just got murdered in Madrid.

It's time to watch Arsenal Fan Tv mrgreen That's what I have been doing past half hour.
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I don't typically support any UK teams ever but my god Real Madrid have been gifted passage through to this year's final by UEFA.

VAR can't come soon enough. I've seen it put to excellent and extremely accurate use in league matches. It does what it promised.

I hope in the name of some sort of justice Liverpool win the final. All odds will be against them, most of all RM's 12th man.
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8esides the immediate fans would anyone really want to watch a Roma vs Bayern Munich final?

Don't debate me.
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(05-04-2018 07:47 AM)Pride male Wrote:  8esides the immediate fans would anyone really want to watch a Roma vs Bayern Munich final?

We want to watch a final where two teams get here by deservedly.

Real Madrid: Very dubious call for 2nd yellow for Dybala when it was 0-1. Juve were playing much better, then 10 vs 11, it ended 0-3.

Second match, Juve went up 0-3 and then ref shows up at 93rd minute with a penalty.

Then Bayern comes. First game was fair and square. Ref somehow didn't see the clear penalty, it was gonna be 1-2, game was gonna go to extra time.

Ref was the same ref, who showed 2nd yellow to Dybala in Torino by the way. Same ref, who showed Nani straight red card when Real Madrid knocked out Manchester United 4 years ago.

Somehow this Cuneyt Cakir always had dubious calls in past 5 years, all of those decisions went favor of Real Madrid.


Then there's Liverpool. There are 4 wrong calls in favor of Liverpool against City.

Salah's first goal was offside.
Sane's goal was legit.
Sterling's penalty not called.
2nd match, ball came from Milner, goal was legit. It was gonna be 2-0 on 43rd minute.

And then they played Roma. One goal was offside for Liverpool in England. Two clear penalties are not called for Roma in Italy, one was also red card.

So, both teams, Real Madrid and Liverpool got here with the referees.
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Tv says, Alex Ferguson is in coma? Damn. Get well soon, Fergie.
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FC Porto the new Portuguese champions after4 years with no titles
Finally at its natural place
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(05-05-2018 03:01 PM)Rossi Wrote:  Tv says, Alex Ferguson is in coma? Damn. Get well soon, Fergie.

Yep, official news sources say the operation was successful. However, once you've had one haemorrhage, you often have another fatal one within fairly close proximity - could be a month, could be 6 months. Not pleasant. In any case, that's the end of him as a public figure. God bless him and his loved ones. A remarkable figure, and I don't think any rival fans will make distasteful jokes in this thread.

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(05-05-2018 05:01 PM)morales Wrote:  FC Porto the new Portuguese champions after4 years with no titles
Finally at its natural place

And Sporting ultras beat the hell out of their players mrgreen
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I guess the Sporting ultras were English?
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Anyone care to make predictions on this year's World Cup winner?

I'd say Germany
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^ Rossi - Italy, ME - wait who??? Rossi - ok, ok, ok. But the next WC is ours. We appointed Mancini, one of the world best. Me - yeah, at least, he has not been caught in match fixing- yet. Also, was he not kicked out of man city? Rossi - *i need a drink* :-)
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(05-18-2018 08:27 AM)AceP Wrote:  Anyone care to make predictions on this year's World Cup winner?

I'd say Germany

Europe:
I don't understand why more people aren't talking about Portugal.
They're fresh off a Euro Cup win, maturing with Ronaldo as their captain and can outlast any team in Europe.

South America:
This will be Brazil's best team for this generation. Even without Neymar they are still SA's #1. Sorry Messi, your country let you down :|

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I'm going for Brazil.
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(05-18-2018 07:57 AM)Matt3B Wrote:  I guess the Sporting ultras were English?

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(05-18-2018 09:50 AM)NomadofEU Wrote:  I don't understand why more people aren't talking about Portugal.

I think Portugal may well be a dark horse, I won money when I bet on them before the Euros. Maybe I'll do it again and just hope Ronaldo carries his recent great form into the tournament, though he won't get the same service.

(05-18-2018 09:55 AM)Matt3B Wrote:  I'm going for Brazil.

One of my staff at work said this today, think it's a good shout. But, as you prob know already, no SA team has ever won a tournament in Europe, and vice versa. Though, this time, most of their players play here...so it could be a different story.

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(05-18-2018 04:03 AM)Rossi Wrote:  
(05-05-2018 05:01 PM)morales Wrote:  FC Porto the new Portuguese champions after4 years with no titles
Finally at its natural place

And Sporting ultras beat the hell out of their players mrgreen

Thats the new soap opera around here. Sporting president is a crazy mofo, he might have given that order to the ultras. The whole squad is planning to get anulation of their professional contracts with Sporting.
If this happens, Sporting will never rise up again...the squad is the biggest asset of any big team.

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I'd say Germany wins again!
I am not sure what you guys see in Portugal, their team is just OK. Don't think CR7 will win games on his own.
Brazil won't be a total fiasco like 2014 but I don't see them as winning this.
On the other hand Spain, Uruguay and Argentina are solid teams that can aim for the semi finals!
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(05-18-2018 03:07 PM)kuqezi Wrote:  I'd say Germany wins again!
I am not sure what you guys see in Portugal, their team is just OK. Don't think CR7 will win games on his own.
Brazil won't be a total fiasco like 2014 but I don't see them as winning this.
On the other hand Spain, Uruguay and Argentina are solid teams that can aim for the semi finals!

Just looked at the players that where called up to the Portuguese team and I believe a really strong starting 11 can be done, and that can easily function as a real team.

Patricio,
Ricardo Pereira, Fonte, Pepe, Raphael Guerreiro
William Carvalho, Bruno Fernandes, Moutinho
Bernardo Silva, Ronaldo and Gelson or Gonçalo Guedes.

I think this tops the the 2016 team, with more youth, hungry for win and talent, specially in guys like Ricardo, Bruno, Bernardo or Gonçalo.

Spain has a great team as usual, but regarding Argentina I dont see nothing special about them appart from the attack and obviously Messi, take him out of the team and you have a 6-0 route against Spain. Urugay also not superior to Portugal's squad, strong and brave team though.

Agree also that Brazil has very few chances at winning, but Tite was smart in calling those guys from Shaktar Donetsk or formerly from them, like Taison, Douglas Costa, Willian, Fred and Fernandinho, who where overlooked many times, and when you have a core of players in a national team who have routines between themselves is half way to success and mixing it with other exceptional players then even better (Bayern/Germany 70s, Ajax/Netherlands 70s, Barcelona/Spain 00s, Porto/Portugal 2004/6, etc).

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(05-18-2018 12:38 PM)Teedub Wrote:  
(05-18-2018 09:55 AM)Matt3B Wrote:  I'm going for Brazil.

One of my staff at work said this today, think it's a good shout. But, as you prob know already, no SA team has ever won a tournament in Europe, and vice versa. Though, this time, most of their players play here...so it could be a different story.

In 1958 Sweden was still Europe, not Eurokistan.

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(05-18-2018 03:07 PM)kuqezi Wrote:  I'd say Germany wins again!
I am not sure what you guys see in Portugal, their team is just OK. Don't think CR7 will win games on his own.
Brazil won't be a total fiasco like 2014 but I don't see them as winning this.
On the other hand Spain, Uruguay and Argentina are solid teams that can aim for the semi finals!

The winner will come from any of the mentioned above plus France. Poland, Colombia, and Belgium could all very well make it to the semis as well.

(05-18-2018 03:27 PM)Rocha Wrote:  Just looked at the players that where called up to the Portuguese team and I believe a really strong starting 11 can be done, and that can easily function as a real team.

Patricio,
Ricardo Pereira, Fonte, Pepe, Raphael Guerreiro
William Carvalho, Bruno Fernandes, Moutinho
Bernardo Silva, Ronaldo and Gelson or Gonçalo Guedes.

I think this tops the the 2016 team, with more youth, hungry for win and talent, specially in guys like Ricardo, Bruno, Bernardo or Gonçalo.

Spain has a great team as usual, but regarding Argentina I dont see nothing special about them appart from the attack and obviously Messi, take him out of the team and you have a 6-0 route against Spain. Urugay also not superior to Portugal's squad, strong and brave team though.

Agree also that Brazil has very few chances at winning, but Tite was smart in calling those guys from Shaktar Donetsk or formerly from them, like Taison, Douglas Costa, Willian, Fred and Fernandinho, who where overlooked many times, and when you have a core of players in a national team who have routines between themselves is half way to success and mixing it with other exceptional players then even better (Bayern/Germany 70s, Ajax/Netherlands 70s, Barcelona/Spain 00s, Porto/Portugal 2004/6, etc).

Argentina has the potential to be unbeatable, it needs a change of attitude that's all. You are absolutely right, half of the battle is having that connection in as many sectors of the field as possible, and achieve a solid team. Any of the teams mentioned above that brings that to the games during the 30 days of the WC, and gets a little lucky, will take the trophy home.

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(05-18-2018 07:57 AM)Matt3B Wrote:  I guess the Sporting ultras were English?

I explained this 50 times in here, I'm actually trying to speak your native language but somehow, you purposely don't want to comprehend it.

What Sporting fans did is domestic violence towards their own players. They didn't fight against Italians or Russians or Turkish or Spanish. We're talking about in here fights that happened between two different fan groups from different country.

How hard is that to understand?

Let me give you an example. Russians flew all the way from Russia to France for Euro 2016. They beat the hell outta English only, they didn't touch nobody else.

English flew all the way to Istanbul from England. Turkish fans killed 2 English fans. They didn't ever kill anyone else in any UEFA's competition ever.

Roma played against Shakhtar, Barcelona, Atletico Madrid etc. so on this year. No fight but when they played against Liverpool, 2 English went into coma.

Clear examples enough or are you gonna say, didn't Napoli fans fight against Roma few years ago? Before you tell me, I'll tell you: Napoli and Rome are two different cities in Italy. Just so you know mrgreen
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