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Yeah you've trolled this thread around fifty times with your ridiculous hate of the English.

Apparently English fans getting stabbed by violent turks in their backwards country is evidence of English aggression and violence.

Russian hooligans want to win the the football hooligan world cup, in their sad minds, attacking English fans in the Euros was the way to do that. There is evidence the Russians planned this trap for English fans, no evidence that the English planned to fight Russians.

So those are both terrible examples to prove your weak point, yet you keep making it every single page of this thread, and then arguing with everyone who disagrees with you. Why are you so desperately trying to start a fight with English RVF members? Do you want to see your greasy face get kicked in? Do you want to have to eat your pasta through a straw?

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OK, ignore the last two sentences I'm not good at this trash talk over the internet shit. Laugh

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Lol no, please keep going at it. The English-Italian beef is entertaining Laugh3

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(05-18-2018 09:50 AM)NomadofEU Wrote:  
(05-18-2018 08:27 AM)AceP Wrote:  Anyone care to make predictions on this year's World Cup winner?

I'd say Germany

Europe:
I don't understand why more people aren't talking about Portugal.
They're fresh off a Euro Cup win, maturing with Ronaldo as their captain and can outlast any team in Europe.

South America:
This will be Brazil's best team for this generation. Even without Neymar they are still SA's #1. Sorry Messi, your country let you down :|

Not hating on Portugal, but even historically I don't think they have won a lot of world cups titles.

I'm guess it just has more to do with being a small country, so they don't have a big enough pool of boys to pick the best out of them. CR is the exception.
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(05-18-2018 07:39 PM)RedPillUK Wrote:  Apparently English fans getting stabbed by violent turks in their backwards country is evidence of English aggression and violence.

Not apparently, it is evidence of English aggression and violence. Why didn't Turks ever stab fans from Italy, Spain, Germany, Portugal, France, Russia? They only did this to English. Why is that? Because English are angels? I'll tell you why, that's what happens when you provoke people.

(05-18-2018 07:39 PM)RedPillUK Wrote:  Russian hooligans want to win the the football hooligan world cup, in their sad minds, attacking English fans in the Euros was the way to do that. There is evidence the Russians planned this trap for English fans, no evidence that the English planned to fight Russians.

Why did Russians come to France, out of 24 teams, they only attacked English? Can you tell me why? Why didn't Russians start fight against home country France or Spain or Turkey or Germany?

Why did they attack English fans only? Did you ever ask this question to yourself? Why do Italians put 2 English fans in coma? Why did Russians only attack English? Why did Dutch police arrest 100 English fans for a friendly game?

This is called criticial thinking.


(05-18-2018 07:39 PM)RedPillUK Wrote:  So those are both terrible examples to prove your weak point, yet you keep making it every single page of this thread, and then arguing with everyone who disagrees with you. Why are you so desperately trying to start a fight with English RVF members? Do you want to see your greasy face get kicked in? Do you want to have to eat your pasta through a straw?

Last time I checked which was about 20 days ago, 2 Liverpool fans were in coma, not Italians buddy mrgreen
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I started this thread, please stop with the anti-English trolling. It's boring, do you actually post anywhere else on the forum?

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(05-19-2018 05:22 AM)AceP Wrote:  I'm guess it just has more to do with being a small country, so they don't have a big enough pool of boys to pick the best out of them. CR is the exception.

Eusabio and Figo also, though obvs CR is next level to those guys, as arguably one of the top two of all time.

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(05-19-2018 06:47 AM)Teedub Wrote:  I started this thread, please stop with the anti-English trolling. It's boring, do you actually post anywhere else on the forum?

Right bros.

Let's give some respect and tolerance to each other and stay on topic.
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I really dont think he's Anti-English. This thread is just his favorite and where he could give the most value with an Italian sense of humor/perspective. In any case the English can always troll and blast the Italian team/players/league in return. Give and take, we're men, its what we do.
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(05-19-2018 06:48 AM)Teedub Wrote:  
(05-19-2018 05:22 AM)AceP Wrote:  I'm guess it just has more to do with being a small country, so they don't have a big enough pool of boys to pick the best out of them. CR is the exception.

Eusabio and Figo also, though obvs CR is next level to those guys, as arguably one of the top two of all time.

Not only Eusebio or Figo, Portugal has a vast tradition in producing World Class players at least at some point in their careers, In the last 30 years I can easily recall other 10 or 20 of those.

Rui Costa (1× CL winner)
Paulo Sousa (2x CL winner)
Vitor Baia (1x CL winner)
Fernando Couto (multiple Uefa silverware no CL though)
Ricardo Carvalho (1x CL winner)
Paulo Futre (1× CL winner)
Rui Barros (multiple Uefa silverware no CL though)
Joao Pinto
Deco (2x CL winner)
Pepe (3x CL winner)
Pauleta
Bernardo Silva
Quaresma
Maniche (1x CL winner)
Jorge Costa (1x CL winner)
Nani (1x CL winner)
Rui Aguas (2x CL finalist)
Bosingwa ( 1x CL winner)
Sergio Conceição (multiple Uefa silverware no CL though)
Rui Patricio...

I think this hipothetical squad would beat most best squads of the same time frame. The combined Uefa competitions wins or finals of these players is just impressive.

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(05-19-2018 09:24 AM)El Padrone Wrote:  I really dont think he's Anti-English. This thread is just his favorite and where he could give the most value with an Italian sense of humor/perspective. In any case the English can always troll and blast the Italian team/players/league in return. Give and take, we're men, its what we do.

It doesn't hurt my feelings, it's just absolutely and utterly boring.

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(05-19-2018 06:05 AM)Rossi Wrote:  Not apparently, it is evidence of English aggression and violence. Why didn't Turks ever stab fans from Italy, Spain, Germany, Portugal, France, Russia? They only did this to English. Why is that? Because English are angels? I'll tell you why, that's what happens when you provoke people.

This is retarded logic, I guess all the terrorist attacks in Europe are due to European nations provoking people.

(05-19-2018 06:05 AM)Rossi Wrote:  
(05-18-2018 07:39 PM)RedPillUK Wrote:  Russian hooligans want to win the the football hooligan world cup, in their sad minds, attacking English fans in the Euros was the way to do that. There is evidence the Russians planned this trap for English fans, no evidence that the English planned to fight Russians.

Why did Russians come to France, out of 24 teams, they only attacked English? Can you tell me why? Why didn't Russians start fight against home country France or Spain or Turkey or Germany?

Why did they attack English fans only? Did you ever ask this question to yourself? Why do Italians put 2 English fans in coma? Why did Russians only attack English? Why did Dutch police arrest 100 English fans for a friendly game?

This is called criticial thinking.

I just told you why and you ignored it so you're not even thinking at all, let alone critically. By the way learn to spell critical thinking before you try to tell others to do it. You seem to fitting into the Italian stereotype: lazy, simple minded, emotional...

(05-19-2018 06:05 AM)Rossi Wrote:  
(05-18-2018 07:39 PM)RedPillUK Wrote:  So those are both terrible examples to prove your weak point, yet you keep making it every single page of this thread, and then arguing with everyone who disagrees with you. Why are you so desperately trying to start a fight with English RVF members? Do you want to see your greasy face get kicked in? Do you want to have to eat your pasta through a straw?

Last time I checked which was about 20 days ago, 2 Liverpool fans were in coma, not Italians buddy mrgreen

Yeah you're probably still celebrating. Come to a meetup.

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(05-19-2018 09:44 AM)Rocha Wrote:  
(05-19-2018 06:48 AM)Teedub Wrote:  
(05-19-2018 05:22 AM)AceP Wrote:  I'm guess it just has more to do with being a small country, so they don't have a big enough pool of boys to pick the best out of them. CR is the exception.

Eusabio and Figo also, though obvs CR is next level to those guys, as arguably one of the top two of all time.

Not only Eusebio or Figo, Portugal has a vast tradition in producing World Class players at least at some point in their careers, In the last 30 years I can easily recall other 10 or 20 of those.

Rui Costa (1× CL winner)
Paulo Sousa (2x CL winner)
Vitor Baia (1x CL winner)
Fernando Couto (multiple Uefa silverware no CL though)
Ricardo Carvalho (1x CL winner)
Paulo Futre (1× CL winner)
Rui Barros (multiple Uefa silverware no CL though)
Joao Pinto
Deco (2x CL winner)
Pepe (3x CL winner)
Pauleta
Bernardo Silva
Quaresma
Maniche (1x CL winner)
Jorge Costa (1x CL winner)
Nani (1x CL winner)
Rui Aguas (2x CL finalist)
Bosingwa ( 1x CL winner)
Sergio Conceição (multiple Uefa silverware no CL though)
Rui Patricio...

I think this hipothetical squad would beat most best squads of the same time frame. The combined Uefa competitions wins or finals of these players is just impressive.

I've always thought Moutinho was a great midfielder. Absolute rock for Monaco for years.
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(05-19-2018 10:50 AM)Enoch Wrote:  
(05-19-2018 09:44 AM)Rocha Wrote:  
(05-19-2018 06:48 AM)Teedub Wrote:  
(05-19-2018 05:22 AM)AceP Wrote:  I'm guess it just has more to do with being a small country, so they don't have a big enough pool of boys to pick the best out of them. CR is the exception.

Eusabio and Figo also, though obvs CR is next level to those guys, as arguably one of the top two of all time.

Not only Eusebio or Figo, Portugal has a vast tradition in producing World Class players at least at some point in their careers, In the last 30 years I can easily recall other 10 or 20 of those.

Rui Costa (1× CL winner)
Paulo Sousa (2x CL winner)
Vitor Baia (1x CL winner)
Fernando Couto (multiple Uefa silverware no CL though)
Ricardo Carvalho (1x CL winner)
Paulo Futre (1× CL winner)
Rui Barros (multiple Uefa silverware no CL though)
Joao Pinto
Deco (2x CL winner)
Pepe (3x CL winner)
Pauleta
Bernardo Silva
Quaresma
Maniche (1x CL winner)
Jorge Costa (1x CL winner)
Nani (1x CL winner)
Rui Aguas (2x CL finalist)
Bosingwa ( 1x CL winner)
Sergio Conceição (multiple Uefa silverware no CL though)
Rui Patricio...

I think this hipothetical squad would beat most best squads of the same time frame. The combined Uefa competitions wins or finals of these players is just impressive.

I've always thought Moutinho was a great midfielder. Absolute rock for Monaco for years.

He is indeed. Like a swiss watch. A stapple everywhere he plays, including the national team since 2005.

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Sporting ultras invading the team training ground, located in the village of Alcochete.

   

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You are insinuating that because English fans are attacked in foreign countries more than any other nationality, that the English fans must be the cause of the problem? Sure, it's a common denominator, but it's not the cause.

The cause is backward countries such as Turkey and Italy still thinking it's the 70s and wanting to 'get one over' the English, despite 99% of hooligans from that era now being out of action or banned from travelling abroad.

Ever wondered why no one else has ever supported your claims on these sorts of things? I sincerely hope you're trolling.
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(05-20-2018 07:52 AM)britchard Wrote:  You are insinuating that because English fans are attacked in foreign countries more than any other nationality, that the English fans must be the cause of the problem? Sure, it's a common denominator, but it's not the cause.

The cause is backward countries such as Turkey and Italy still thinking it's the 70s and wanting to 'get one over' the English, despite 99% of hooligans from that era now being out of action or banned from travelling abroad.

Ever wondered why no one else has ever supported your claims on these sorts of things? I sincerely hope you're trolling.

Rossi is right. Brits get attacked more than the others because they also attack, disrespect, destroy, misbehave and drink more than the others.

English fan is shameful, he does not know how to drink, and can't take a drink, he has a shitty life in some shithole like Wolverhampton, gets wasted and gets in some stupid bar fight on every weekend. Then travels abroad and replicates the same stupid behaviour, then gets his ass kicked by some sober locals. End of story.

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English people (and Irish and Scots) can drink anyone in the world under the table as far as I'm concerned. It's not a positive thing, simply an observation. Ask Nascimento from this forum, he was horrified by the amount Bojangles and I would get through on a night out, so you can't get us on that.

As for hooliganism, I 100% agree with britchard. Italians etc think the hooligans around now are the same as they were in the 70's, when the English invented the phenomena. They aren't. Those guys are either old, or like britch said, banned from travelling.

Finally, as I have said before Tommy Robinson—the most famous football hooligan in the world probably—would be rolled out on a red carpet were he to meet hooligans in Russia, Poland, or Italy (not Turkey for obvious reasons). People on here diss Islam, talk about kicking it out of Europe etc...who do they think will do that? Middle class types who clap at football sitting down, or drunk, rowdy Englishmen/Scots etc? Clue: it's not the middle classes.

And for the record, an apartment in the centre of somewhere like Wolverhampton provides a better standard of living than the equivalent in MANY countries in Europe, including Italy. And I love Italy by the way.

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I think the truth is probably somewhere in the middle here. The English (not British) fans are loud and can be antagonistic. One example would be the singing of songs such as "Ten German Bombers". There's no need for it and it rubs the locals and other fans up the wrong way.

They don't need to look too far to see examples of how to drink large amounts but keep the atmosphere fun and friendly - the Welsh, Irish, Northern Irish and Scots have shown them it can be done.

On the other hand, I'm sure there is an element of other countries' hardcore hooligans seeing the English as the biggest scalp.

I would say it's strange to see people from Southern Europe criticising the "shitty" lives of people in "shitholes" such as Wolverhampton. It's strange because it's quite difficult to buy a coffee from Starbucks in many British cities (including Wolverhampton) without being served by a young person from one of Southern Europe's thriving economies.

If you get chatting you are likely to find that they are a graduate from a reputable subject. Strange then, that they leave the utopia of Southern Europe for a "shitty life" in Middle England.

I seem to remember Portugal going begging to the IMF and EU for 78 billion Euros in 2011 because they didn't have a pot to piss in. A few years later and we're turning our nose up at "shitty" Wolverhampton. Strange.

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Insane end to Serie A season.

Lazio completely self-destructed in 5 minutes....went from comfortable and on top, leading 2-1, to losing 3-2 and a man down within 4 minutes.

Shame, because they play some fantastic football and would have been great in CL next season, but now we have to do with Inter.

Well, all that's left of club football is next Saturday in Kyiv. Hearing people are having big difficulties with accommodation and everything in the city is sold out or extremely priced out. I hope Mane and Salah won't be fasting before the game...
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(05-20-2018 06:53 PM)AManLikePutin Wrote:  Insane end to Serie A season.

Lazio completely self-destructed in 5 minutes....went from comfortable and on top, leading 2-1, to losing 3-2 and a man down within 4 minutes.

Shame, because they play some fantastic football and would have been great in CL next season, but now we have to do with Inter.

Well, all that's left of club football is next Saturday in Kyiv. Hearing people are having big difficulties with accommodation and everything in the city is sold out or extremely priced out. I hope Mane and Salah won't be fasting before the game...

Lol nope. It is standard practice for Muslim players to skip Ramadan on days where they play (or get an agreement with the club to train at 12 AM).

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(05-20-2018 09:13 AM)Rocha Wrote:  
(05-20-2018 07:52 AM)britchard Wrote:  You are insinuating that because English fans are attacked in foreign countries more than any other nationality, that the English fans must be the cause of the problem? Sure, it's a common denominator, but it's not the cause.

The cause is backward countries such as Turkey and Italy still thinking it's the 70s and wanting to 'get one over' the English, despite 99% of hooligans from that era now being out of action or banned from travelling abroad.

Ever wondered why no one else has ever supported your claims on these sorts of things? I sincerely hope you're trolling.

Rossi is right. Brits get attacked more than the others because they also attack, disrespect, destroy, misbehave and drink more than the others.

English fan is shameful, he does not know how to drink, and can't take a drink, he has a shitty life in some shithole like Wolverhampton, gets wasted and gets in some stupid bar fight on every weekend. Then travels abroad and replicates the same stupid behaviour, then gets his ass kicked by some sober locals. End of story.

He's probably someone who never went to any away game with England supporters.

He just doesn't get it. He's probably going to Premier league matches and he's thinking that's how England fans act at away games too. We're talking about fan base who's gone to FRIENDLY in Amsterdam and end up getting locked up, about 100-120 of them. Especially in a city where they have high tolerance to drunk people, even drug addicts.

Have you seen any other fan base in Europe who's gone for friendly and end up getting locked up 100-150 of them other than England? mrgreen

But according to English media, they're all angels. All Italians, Russians, Spanish, Turkish, Serbians, French attack them for no reason.

Look, I'm calling it right now. If there are gonna be 20 fights happening in World Cup in Russia, 18 will be between English vs some other country. We'll probably hear, Panamanian have attacked to innocent English fans in Nizhny Novgorod mrgreen
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I've been to both Naples and Rome. Apart from a small district, Naples is a shithole and Rome is lovely. I'd quite like to live there.

Thanks for the geography lesson though.

My team are winning the Champions League at the weekend. Can't wait.
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(05-19-2018 09:44 AM)Rocha Wrote:  
(05-19-2018 06:48 AM)Teedub Wrote:  
(05-19-2018 05:22 AM)AceP Wrote:  I'm guess it just has more to do with being a small country, so they don't have a big enough pool of boys to pick the best out of them. CR is the exception.

Eusabio and Figo also, though obvs CR is next level to those guys, as arguably one of the top two of all time.

Not only Eusebio or Figo, Portugal has a vast tradition in producing World Class players at least at some point in their careers, In the last 30 years I can easily recall other 10 or 20 of those.

Rui Costa (1× CL winner)
Paulo Sousa (2x CL winner)
Vitor Baia (1x CL winner)
Fernando Couto (multiple Uefa silverware no CL though)
Ricardo Carvalho (1x CL winner)
Paulo Futre (1× CL winner)
Rui Barros (multiple Uefa silverware no CL though)
Joao Pinto
Deco (2x CL winner)
Pepe (3x CL winner)
Pauleta
Bernardo Silva
Quaresma
Maniche (1x CL winner)
Jorge Costa (1x CL winner)
Nani (1x CL winner)
Rui Aguas (2x CL finalist)
Bosingwa ( 1x CL winner)
Sergio Conceição (multiple Uefa silverware no CL though)
Rui Patricio...

I think this hipothetical squad would beat most best squads of the same time frame. The combined Uefa competitions wins or finals of these players is just impressive.

Portugal has produced 2 truly exceptional players - one from Mozambique and one from Madeira.
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RE: The Soccer Thread
Rossi is definitely part of the infamous 'prawn sandwich brigade'. I've never been to a premier league game in my life, I've been to plenty of lower league games including away games, and your 'assertion' that English fans are terrified of the police in England and think that they can only have fun when they go abroad is just made-up.

You're right, I've never been to an away game with England supporters. Doesn't mean there isn't extensive video evidence of them just having fun outside bars and then being charged at by Spanish/Italian/Russian gangs.

What do you think about the man from Liverpool lying in a coma due to an attack from an Italian fan Rossi? Or those who were put in comas, or had broken bones from 2016?
05-22-2018 01:24 PM
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