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(03-24-2019 06:49 AM)Trent W. Wrote:  Posting this as a self-review. If anyone puts the time into reading and giving feedback or sharing similar situations I'd appreciate it.

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What do you guys do when you're on the couch making out, but not getting any physical escalation or hints to push it from her side? Where do you draw the line between sex coming naturally and pushing for it?

BroodingSea pretty much nailed it. You have to be the man in that situation and lead. She's waiting for you to take the lead. She invited you over to her place...she knows what's up.

Making Out, freezing out and then restarting the cycle can get boring. You said it yourself so how do you think she felt? Yes, her body language may have been saying one thing but as strange as it sounds...they want you to break that barrier.

Ironically, the last two girls I have fucked both kept their pants on in bed and it was the last barrier I had to breach. I suggested they take their pants off and they both said "no" and finally both had to pretty much tell me to take them off myself. I have done it so many times and I think each girl is different but I am constantly reminded that they are all the same at their core. They want you to dominate. Especially in those situations.

Just remind yourself of the subtle signs she is giving you. Chances are she's not going to take her pants off or tell you to fuck her now. At least not in the way we want. But she will do that, in her own way.

For the next date, I would suggest inviting her over to your place and show her who is boss. Escalate and if at any point she's clearly not into it, then tell her you misread the situation and ask her to leave. At least you'll know where you stand.

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(03-24-2019 06:55 AM)BroodingSea Wrote:  What I'd do here is put a hard escalation move on. Many women in this situation are simply waiting for the man to take control. Be direct. Be confident. Tell her you find her attractive. Kiss her. Tell her you want her and lead the process. You have to roll the dice. Worst case is she doesn't want anything and makes it clear this is the case. But often in situations like this, women are waiting for the man to exercise a form of dominance and confidence. Lighten the tone, make it fun and escalate hard in that moment. Try it twice in an hour and if she still holds back treat it as no biggy. But maintain that ethos that you want her. She has to know this.

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(03-24-2019 06:49 AM)Trent W. Wrote:  Posting this as a self-review. If anyone puts the time into reading and giving feedback or sharing similar situations I'd appreciate it.

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What do you guys do when you're on the couch making out, but not getting any physical escalation or hints to push it from her side? Where do you draw the line between sex coming naturally and pushing for it?

BroodingSea pretty much nailed it. You have to be the man in that situation and lead. She's waiting for you to take the lead. She invited you over to her place...she knows what's up.

Making Out, freezing out and then restarting the cycle can get boring. You said it yourself so how do you think she felt? Yes, her body language may have been saying one thing but as strange as it sounds...they want you to break that barrier.

Ironically, the last two girls I have fucked both kept their pants on in bed and it was the last barrier I had to breach. I suggested they take their pants off and they both said "no" and finally both had to pretty much tell me to take them off myself. I have done it so many times and I think each girl is different but I am constantly reminded that they are all the same at their core. They want you to dominate. Especially in those situations.

Just remind yourself of the subtle signs she is giving you. Chances are she's not going to take her pants off or tell you to fuck her now. At least not in the way we want. But she will do that, in her own way.

For the next date, I would suggest inviting her over to your place and show her who is boss. Escalate and if at any point she's clearly not into it, then tell her you misread the situation and ask her to leave. At least you'll know where you stand.

It's like you both say, and I myself realized almost as soon as I left her place. The funny thing is that I've been on similar situations before. The main difference is that those times the girls hadn't shown me that much interest so I had my "game on". This time she was so invested before that I felt it wasn't needed. Plus, she wasn't really the shy type in any other way. Anyway, lesson learned.

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(03-25-2019 05:27 PM)Trent W. Wrote:  
(03-24-2019 06:55 AM)BroodingSea Wrote:  What I'd do here is put a hard escalation move on. Many women in this situation are simply waiting for the man to take control. Be direct. Be confident. Tell her you find her attractive. Kiss her. Tell her you want her and lead the process. You have to roll the dice. Worst case is she doesn't want anything and makes it clear this is the case. But often in situations like this, women are waiting for the man to exercise a form of dominance and confidence. Lighten the tone, make it fun and escalate hard in that moment. Try it twice in an hour and if she still holds back treat it as no biggy. But maintain that ethos that you want her. She has to know this.

(03-25-2019 08:50 AM)[email protected] Wrote:  
(03-24-2019 06:49 AM)Trent W. Wrote:  Posting this as a self-review. If anyone puts the time into reading and giving feedback or sharing similar situations I'd appreciate it.

TL;DR:
What do you guys do when you're on the couch making out, but not getting any physical escalation or hints to push it from her side? Where do you draw the line between sex coming naturally and pushing for it?

BroodingSea pretty much nailed it. You have to be the man in that situation and lead. She's waiting for you to take the lead. She invited you over to her place...she knows what's up.

Making Out, freezing out and then restarting the cycle can get boring. You said it yourself so how do you think she felt? Yes, her body language may have been saying one thing but as strange as it sounds...they want you to break that barrier.

Ironically, the last two girls I have fucked both kept their pants on in bed and it was the last barrier I had to breach. I suggested they take their pants off and they both said "no" and finally both had to pretty much tell me to take them off myself. I have done it so many times and I think each girl is different but I am constantly reminded that they are all the same at their core. They want you to dominate. Especially in those situations.

Just remind yourself of the subtle signs she is giving you. Chances are she's not going to take her pants off or tell you to fuck her now. At least not in the way we want. But she will do that, in her own way.

For the next date, I would suggest inviting her over to your place and show her who is boss. Escalate and if at any point she's clearly not into it, then tell her you misread the situation and ask her to leave. At least you'll know where you stand.

It's like you both say, and I myself realized almost as soon as I left her place. The funny thing is that I've been on similar situations before. The main difference is that those times the girls hadn't shown me that much interest so I had my "game on". This time she was so invested before that I felt it wasn't needed. Plus, she wasn't really the shy type in any other way. Anyway, lesson learned.

As long as she's not actively trying to leave your condo, it's ON. That's all. As long as she complies, it's ON. As long as she's not giving you firm "no" one after the other, it's ON. Don't expect her, however wild she may be at heart, prior the first time, to scream out loud "Trent, fuck me now!!!". If she did so, she'd be a whore or a porn star. Which, I doubt, is what you're after. Basically, what Villain said in his post above.
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I used to take the same developmental misteps many times in my 20s. Its normal. Part of your development.
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Got a text out of the blue from a plate I had to let go of last year, thanking me for our time together and talking about how she uses the stuff I taught her with her new man.

I always try to leave 'em a little better than I found 'em so that made me proud.

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What did you teach her?
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(03-27-2019 03:10 PM)BroodingSea Wrote:  What did you teach her?

I was her introduction to BDSM. Ropes, toys, all that kinda stuff.

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(03-11-2019 06:25 PM)Anchor Man Wrote:  Quick question:
I had a girl from tinder directly to my place one time before . After a glass of wine, a little chat and kissing , she said “ what do you want from me “ in playful manner .

I replied : I want to fuck you.

Me thinking this is a direct and confident way instead of hiding my intentions .
Is good reply or way too forward ?
I ended fucking anyways , but if it worked one time , doesn’t it will work every time

IT really depends on the girl but something I learned when I really shifted my focus from "meeting women" to actually getting laid is this mentality.

"Most girls will forgive you for being too aggressive or direct but will not forgive you for being a pussy"


I can recall throughout my life that when I had opportunities with girls and didn't take action, I either never saw the girl again or her attraction dropped drastically.

Now I think a lot of this can be conveyed in your body language, how you carry your self, speaking in a seductive tone, charm, having a good physical body etc, but when all else fails doesn't hurt to go direct. Now, will you lose some girls sure of course, but it depends on the girls, her culture, her norms, fear of being judged etc.

I've found that most girls actually want to get fucked and will fuck faster than our timeline, but she needs to know your the kind of guy who can fuck her and be cool about it. Girls have categories they put guys in.

When it comes to things like tinder I'd much rather be in the guy who fucks category IE: player/sleazebag then the "maybe" category and have to jump through all the hoops and test because she is "unsure" about you.

Nothing wrong with raising a girls interest but I've hooked up with more girls on the first night then having to go on multiple dates simply because I have the vibe of a guy who gets laid and knows how to handle women+striking when the iron is hot.

Just put yourself in positions to fuck - No pun intended!Blush

(03-23-2019 10:24 PM)floridaboiii Wrote:  My ex and i broke up close to a month ago so ive been going out more but Damnnnnnnnnnn I am going through a serious rough patch in the country that I'm in. I cannot wait to get over to Argentina (even though thats supposed to be gaming on hard mode). I have been trying to switch up my game just to see what works but i cant find a formula. The most frustrating thing is the amount of girls showing interest then flaking...

Hopefully yall have some idea of what im doing wrong...

I had a little petite chick ask me to take a picture. Take a pic and we start talking. We start dancing and making out. Get her number. First thing she sends is the heart emoji and that she loves me (normal here). I tell her she can come with me and of course she says she needs to leave with her friends.

Texting her during the week to see when we are hanging out again. She says she doesnt have any time. I dont answer. I give it three days then say whats up and she doesnt respond.... deleted her number.

This is a girl who said and i quote "sos un sueno," (youre a dream)...

While im dancing on the chick above i see another girl standing solo and kinda side eyeing whats going on. I stand next to her and eventually say whats up. I grab her number quick and go back to the other girl. This new girl texts me a little and tells me she lives by herself(good sign in the country im in). I comment on some of her pictures shes posting and she just gives me smileys. Im not patient so i ask her when i can come over. No answer. Deleted her number (longshot anyways).

Theres this woman whos number i delete almost every month... its been like four or five months. Out of nowhere she will text me hey. I always try to schedule a meetup and she always flakes. Not only does she flake but she just stops answering... last time she did that i told her that she could have just said she cant go. She apologized.

A few weeks later i see her popup in my facebook. I wait a while then accept. Ask her why she wants to follow me on IG FB but doesnt want to meet. "You live far." So once again delete and block. Bitch is retarded...

(The story above in this thread about the affair) I see a woman walking down the street after the night of dancing with the petite chick. She walks by mouth agape and we make eye contact. I keep walking but then im like what the fuck and run back. She tells me i can only text her M-F because shes married. She texts me the entire week and while we were supposed to meet up this weekend she flakes (has kids). This one i will keep in my phone and be patient with.

I keep walking and see another girl who grabbed me to dance in the club (a different one from the one above). She waves me over and im thinking hell yes i hit the jackpot. Anyways im walking all around with these fuckers and finally we sit down. The girl turns and makes out w me. I ask her where shes going and tell her to come with me. She says she needs to go with her friends of course... lol. I tell her she didnt even get my number, try to give it to her then she leaves. All that for my dick in my hand... also she never texted me.

Next night im out and im just not feeling it after the unsuccessful night before. Im sure people can pick up on it. Anyways i walk in and normally eyes turn towards me but im feeling nothing... eventually some fat chicks come up and im like what the hell. I start dancing and having fun and i feel at least 10 chicks turn and start eyeing me. So of course now i gotta go talk to them.

I start approaching and get shut down by every single fucking one lol. My approaching style isnt even anything crazy i will go up and shake their hand and ask what their name is... this one bitch i go up to turns her face away (probably the most vicious rejection ive gotten in PY). The funniest part is i went up to this girl to ask about her friend lol. I turn to the friend and tell her that i wanted to ask her friend about her and she is like, "seriously?" The friend is nice but says shes not interested or had a bf? I cant remember. Then a dude comes over and tells me the girls dont want to talk to me lol. I look at this dude like hes crazy (all im doing is standing next to the girls). He tries to dap me up and say theres no problem, i shoo him away. Its Amazing how insecure these nerds are here.

The final girl i cant remember how i approached. Anyways her friend is telling me shes really interested but the girl just doesnt seem at all interested. I dont remember taking a picture but we did. I got her number before i left. She texts me a couple days later and sends the pictures we took. Standard how are you blah blah blah... Delete her number.

The weekend before a girl saw me chilling by myself and she says lets go get you a girl. So i meet another girl we're grinding making out and she goes to leave to her hotel. Of course I try to go and you know what happens next... nothing. She gives me her number and asks if shes allowed to text me during the week. Im texting her and shes asking me why im texting her so much... so guess what... i delete her number.

While i was heading outside to meet the girl above i see a chick eyeing me on the sidewalk. I approach her and get her number and its back ro the other girl. I text this girl and she has invited me back to the club but barely texts me back past hi and how are you. Next time i will ask where shes at and try to hangout. Her number is deleted though.

One girl off tinder matched me. She tells me shes not sure why we stopped talking. We start talking again and she says next week i can come see her in her house. One day i text her saying whats up. She doesnt respond. Wait for her to invite me to her house ans of course she doesnt. Delete her number.

I know some of yall are reading this and thinking this dude is dumb why is he so impatient. I literally have a girl who has been texting me for 6 months but doesnt want to meet... i cant play with them anymore. Its also just a matter of me trying everything. Ive tried giving girls a lot of attention and they ask me why i text them so much. I had one girl i stopped texting and she told me she thought i didnt like her anymore. I had another who said, "you are malo!" (You are bad) after i stopped texting her. Feels like no matter what i am not doing the right thing.

At the end of the day all of this may just be logistics as i live almost two hours away from most of these girls and i have to try to get in their house or to a motel... but still these blowouts are killing me.

Ive been asking dudes from the country im in what im doing wrong snd they just say the girls are scared. Come on... thats ridiculous.

During rough patches what do you guys do to snap out of it? Are yall experiencing shit like this? I would rather get shut down 100 times then get these dumbass experiences im having... If you guys are wondering in about 6 months last year i hooked up with 15 or 16 chicks and maybe 1 or 2 new ones this year. Idk what changed.

Any tips about latina girls in latin America i need to hear? I kinda feel like the country im in is a weird outlier as well.

I haven't been in PY but I have experience with Latina women in Mexico. I dropped a report a few weeks back and I had pretty good success for the time there. However, the phone number ratio of women who eventually went cold, or never met up was crazy but I've chalked it up to Latina women and also the "curiosity factor. Not only in my game but also another brother and a few others have experienced the same thing.

Many examples are similar to yours. A girl is showing interest but then the meet up never happens. A lot of them are "intrigued" by a foreigner or just being the only black guy they may have seen aside from TV so they are caught up by the attention but then other factors start playing in. One thing you mentioned is logistics and I know before you had success but it can certainly play a factor in the ease of the lay.

My first 3 months in Mexico I got laid much more than when I was living further out. Logistics play an important key in getting laid no doubt. As for your situation just chalk it up to curiosity and exotic factor. Hell, I can recall plenty of women who were eyeing me up, checking me out body language all encouraging me to approach.

Then we exchange numbers, and then later she tells me she has a boyfriend and I don't want to cheat.<----Then why the hell are you giving me your number? Trying to test the market? It's true women will always have a backup guy lined up before they break up or step out on a relationship.

That said what's helped me the most is understanding female nature. Especially in Latin America where gender roles are more prevalent. The best advice I can give position yourself as a high-value male with limited time and keep her chasing your validation. Women live on attention and validation. Once she is satisfied with all your non-sexual attention she is less likely to give you her sexual attention, that or she already has someone for that.

Also in my case I eventually got burned out in my city and moving to a different area helped reignite my flame. I've been away for a few months so once I step back out there again I will be ready, but also I'm actually indifferent to putting in a ton of work to get chicks at the moment. These chicks gotta understand I ain't got time to be texting you all day just for you to be wasting my time.

When the girls shoot down or ignore your meetup I would either try back in a couple of weeks or wait for her to text back and say something along the line of "just hit me up or text me when your schedule clears and we'll go from there"

Depending on the girl if she straight up flakes or ignores my text after we planned a meetup I don't bother sending her a new text or asking her out again because it puts you in a position of chasing. I prefer to keep my texting limited and use it primarily for setting up dates.

Better yet I got good at setting up multiple dates and if the girl I really wanted shows up and things go well, I would be the one flaking on girls without a response. These girls don't give a damn when they have a better offer and just flake. As much as I enjoy the company of women I value my time with good company more.

The more you are texting back and forth with a woman, the easier it is to fuck it up or start lowering her interest. Best to be the mysterious exotic foreigner with limited time, then to be readily available. This is easier to do when you genuinely are busy and limited on time but shifting my attitude and the mentality has helped a ton to become indifferent either way.
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Disclaimer : I don't care about this chick. I do talk to other women.

I met this MILF in social event a year ago.She was by herself. We exchanged numbers. She cancelled on me the day of date , citing age difference . She actually looked at my linkedin profile.
Last text exchange was
Her: Blah Blah, I wish we can remain friends
Me: Thanks, but I have enough friends . best of luck
Her: Thanks , you too

Tonight, I went to a social event ( same event ) and I saw her. She was with her younger friends . She made a lot of eye contacts with me even when she was talking with other guys. I didn't go and talk to her.

Then, she passed by me going to restroom. I stopped her and said "hi ". She gave me a hug and said " hi, how are you". Then, she followed by saying" I am going to the restroom." Of course, she went then came back to her friends . I was shocked because she gave a lot of eye contacts .

What did I do wrong?

1- I was pussy because I didn't go in and talk her and I only talked to her while she was passing by me. This is why she blew me off
2- She was attention whore
3- She didn't want to be seen talking to younger guy in front of her friends and other potential younger guys.
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^^^You met her a year ago and saw her recently that's why.

You also failed her shit test and didn't run enough comfort with her to not worry about the age difference.

You also shouldn't of been worried about observing her this last time you saw her, you should've been gaming other girls, flirting, and having a good time not giving a fuck about what she thinks.

She wants to say what's up, she'll say what's up, it's her loss if she doesn't, you've got other girls to game and give attention to.

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(03-29-2019 11:26 PM)kaotic Wrote:  ^^^You met her a year ago and saw her recently that's why.

You also failed her shit test and didn't run enough comfort with her to not worry about the age difference.

I Agree.

You also shouldn't of been worried about observing her this last time you saw her, you should've been gaming other girls, flirting, and having a good time not giving a fuck about what she thinks.

She wants to say what's up, she'll say what's up, it's her loss if she doesn't, you've got other girls to game and give attention to.
I was talking to other girls. But here my question: I should have left up to her to initiate conversation, regardless of whatever signs she gave. This is what you mean. She should be the one who comes and talks to me, right ?
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(03-18-2019 07:34 PM)kaotic Wrote:  
(03-11-2019 12:43 AM)kaotic Wrote:  Black Former Cheerleader- been banging for 6 months, the first few times we banged was a bit weird, I've worked her on positions and flexibility and she's alot better, she loves me dicking her down, took her anal virginity recently the only issue she's a bit skitting with the "what are we" - it boils down to us going out occasionally and making her feel like more than just a fuck buddy, not hard to do.

Looks like I spoke too soon about this girl.

She basically dropped a few lines saying "hey I want this to be a relationship at some point soon because I cant do the whole hook up for a long time thing"

Basically told her my time's spread too thing and it wouldn't be fair to her and the last thing I want to do is lead her on or hurt her.

So I left it at that, she didn't respond after I told her, I understand where we both stand.

I have no plans on reaching out to her.

Turns out she was super busy and sick, I ended up fucking her this week, she's back on her getting tied and dicked down mode.



There's this latina I banged before was being a bratt about hanging out, she flaked last Friday cause she had to get up early for work Saturday.

She was bitching about this Friday because she had a 1.5 hour drive from home to work (and she lives past me). Said fuck it hang out tomorrow, but this bitch wants see a stupid ass movie, she was insistent in a funny way.

I leveraged it to her coming to me, buying the tickets for the movie and the first round of drinks after and making sure we go out.

If she flakes, she's deleted, I already banged her, I don't care.



I don't miss dating apps at all, but also I haven't been an approach machine, social circle is good as always, I've banged enough women to know what girl I want to swoop on. I've been working on this 8.5 freak latina cop whose my best friends, best friend. It's working cause even my best friend is saying we should just fuck and get it over worth since we're both into bdsm and freaks.

I still got my plates on the rotation so I'm running through a few of them every week.

I've been focusing all that time going on new dates and new bangs and turning it into productive shit.

I've been stacking all my cash, haven't been spending shit, I've been absolutely killing it at work, had my best quarter to date, we also had the best month in our companies entire history.

I've been riding the Harley alot more, I haven't been on a bender or done any drugs in months, my drinking is at a minimal, shit on St Paddy's I had 2 beers and went home.

My diet has been fine tuned to a caloric deficit by a trainer buddy of mine, whose also training to with me with what looks like every Saturday or every other Saturday. I'll be getting a new workout plan this weekend.

I feel lean, still retained most my gains from my last cycle and also getting scans I need for the back issues I've had.


Everything is looking solid, life is good, blessed to be alive.

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(03-29-2019 11:30 PM)Anchor Man Wrote:  
(03-29-2019 11:26 PM)kaotic Wrote:  ^^^You met her a year ago and saw her recently that's why.

You also failed her shit test and didn't run enough comfort with her to not worry about the age difference.

I Agree.

You also shouldn't of been worried about observing her this last time you saw her, you should've been gaming other girls, flirting, and having a good time not giving a fuck about what she thinks.

She wants to say what's up, she'll say what's up, it's her loss if she doesn't, you've got other girls to game and give attention to.
I was talking to other girls. But here my question: I should have left up to her to initiate conversation, regardless of whatever signs she gave. This is what you mean. She should be the one who comes and talks to me, right ?

Yes, let her come talk to you if she's interested, and game accordingly.

Just keep in mind, she gave you some lame ass excuse to bail out on your date.

You don't owe her shit and she sure as hell doesn't deserve your attention.

Yeah sure you could've caught her alone and said hi besides the bathroom- but she might of given you the cold shoulder just like she did on her way to the bathroom.

Im guess you probably kept looking at her while she kept looking at you, when instead she should be the only one looking, you don't give women attention who don't deserve it.

But to be honest this whole thing was DOA as soon as you failed the age shit test last year, that dried her pussy up.

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(03-29-2019 11:51 PM)kaotic Wrote:  
(03-29-2019 11:30 PM)Anchor Man Wrote:  
(03-29-2019 11:26 PM)kaotic Wrote:  ^^^You met her a year ago and saw her recently that's why.

You also failed her shit test and didn't run enough comfort with her to not worry about the age difference.

I Agree.

You also shouldn't of been worried about observing her this last time you saw her, you should've been gaming other girls, flirting, and having a good time not giving a fuck about what she thinks.

She wants to say what's up, she'll say what's up, it's her loss if she doesn't, you've got other girls to game and give attention to.
I was talking to other girls. But here my question: I should have left up to her to initiate conversation, regardless of whatever signs she gave. This is what you mean. She should be the one who comes and talks to me, right ?

Yes, let her come talk to you if she's interested, and game accordingly.

Just keep in mind, she gave you some lame ass excuse to bail out on your date.

You don't owe her shit and she sure as hell doesn't deserve your attention.

Yeah sure you could've caught her alone and said hi besides the bathroom- but she might of given you the cold shoulder just like she did on her way to the bathroom.

Im guess you probably kept looking at her while she kept looking at you, when instead she should be the only one looking, you don't give women attention who don't deserve it.

This is true. I did that.

But to be honest this whole thing was DOA as soon as you failed the age shit test last year, that dried her pussy up.
I thought it would be needy if I tried to convince her about the age difference. How would you do it, man? You just say "come on, age is just a number "?
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(03-29-2019 11:57 PM)Anchor Man Wrote:  I thought it would be needy if I tried to convince her about the age difference. How would you do it, man? You just say "come on, age is just a number "?[/size]

It's not needy and you can play it many ways.

She says:
"You're too young"
"I think the age difference is a bit too much"
"Im too old for you"

etc

Your response:

"I've date old than you and younger than you, it's not the number, it's how you act, so let's find out who you really are"

"Age is just a number, attitude and how you act is everything"

"Don't tell me you're one of those girls whose insecure about an age difference haha"


All you do is flip the frame on her, have her qualify herself as to how she's worth your time to meet up with you.


These are just some thoughts off the top of my head, but you get the idea.

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I was consistently dating a girl for about 7 mos who had an amazing body but plain-faced, personality was wife material and she initiated sex constantly on me but she dumped me two days ago because I flaked out on her without texting and slept in a different girl's bed on a night when my girlfriend was expecting my attention. She knew I didn't like monogamy but we had been playing this game where we would both just avoid the topic and I would only see other women when she could plausibly pretend like I was just having some "alone time." But the fact that on this particular night she was expecting me to come over to her house and then I flaked without calling made her really sad, and she started asking about where I had slept. I chose to be honest, rather than deceive her, because I was hoping to transition to an officially open relationship, or else bring it to a close. She opted to break up. For a few days, I was questioning whether I shouldn't have slept with that other girl, or else lied to my ex, considering how well she treated me (great sex, cooked and cleaned for me, very agreeable, self-reliant, energetic, etc.) but now I'm headed out again to run some game on a Friday night, and I am happy for my new independence. I am going to drive for Uber in the downtown area and gather some intelligence on where my next prospect might like to spend her Friday night.
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Just got a blowjob from a tiny Chinese-American raised girl, that was unexpected, I haven’t had my dick felt since December, it feels good. We were both tired and she was on her period, so no bang but that’s cool. She asked me if I’m in a relationship in the middle of it (and I am) and I just said: nope.
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Players,
This was in-person .
- Her: I have a boyfriend.
- Me: Are you happy ? ( I stole this line from the forum )
- Her: yes I am ( in plain tone )
-Me: you don't look like you are happy .

Then she spent about 30 min asking me why she doesn't look like she is in a happy relationship.

My verdict : She is not happy. If she was happy , she wouldn't bother that much asking me why I made that assumption. At least, she would brush my comment off.

What are your thoughts, guys, based only on this interaction ?
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(03-31-2019 04:03 PM)Anchor Man Wrote:  Players,
This was in-person .
- Her: I have a boyfriend.
- Me: Are you happy ? ( I stole this line from the forum )
- Her: yes I am ( in plain tone )
-Me: you don't look like you are happy .

Then she spent about 30 min asking me why she doesn't look like she is in a happy relationship.

My verdict : She is not happy. If she was happy , she wouldn't bother that much asking me why I made that assumption. At least, she would brush my comment off.

What are your thoughts, guys, based only on this interaction ?

I've used that line, it's always entertaining gauging their response.

In this case, she spent 30 minutes asking you and you couldn't or didn't turn it into an in. Either she was interested and you let the attraction die letting her frame the conversation, or she wasn't happy AND she wasn't that interested. Either way, a lose-lose.

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@AneroidOcean

Thanks . I didn’t share the rest of the convo so to make my post shorter . I wasn’t that interested but I was testing the technique and getting feedback from you guys.

Anyway, thanks again .
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The sun is out. It is shorts and t-shirt weather. The women are looking hot. I'm invigorated. What a great season. I was waiting for it to come after a dreadful winter. Time to show off the muscles.
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Sorry for keep asking questions as I am gaming pretty hard those days .
It is more general question .
Plenty of times I am with a group of girls (friends, acquaintance, or coworkers) . If I starts giving more attention to a particular girl , the others start competing for my attention.(typical female behavior)
My question is as the following :
Is there a way to tell if a girl is really jealous because she is interested or she is just competing for the attention against the other girls ?
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I started counting my approaches in a very detailed way half a year ago. After my first 100 day approaches I didn't get far. It took me 3 months to get there. One date that was not really a date - rather a hangout. My next 77 approaches got a bunch more numbers and finally I'm able to got some dates. Still no bangs, but my pipeline is full - 8-10 girls texting and trying to schedule dates. I have no capacity to go day game until some of these girls drop out. So 1 approach a day is kinda pointless once you get a full pipeline right?

A couple of observations:
- The better I become at approaching the more approaches I can crank in a day (duh)

- When I get into a venue during the day or night I am subconsciously looking to position myself next to good looking girls. That's a great habit to develop

- I am actively looking for girls to open if I am not in a hurry - another good habit to develop.

- If I approach only the good looking girls (top of what I can find) I get nowhere - numbers lead to nothing, girls don't even care about giving their numbers, they are not really curious about you and it is hard to come by girls that are very attractive.

- If I lower my standards slightly I get much higher levels of interest from the girls which is great but then you're not really going after the top girls.

- Same observation at night - if I approach less attractive girls I find them much more receptive.

- The younger generation has given up on day/night game? The less than 27yo girls/guys are only doing online dating: Tinder/Bumble/Hinge/whatever. They are tired of putting up the work. Does this mean it's harder in that age group?

- I am starting to contemplate a strong social circle development effort. It sounds like the right way forward if you want to optimize your results.

- Night game is almost dead for me from a sheer numbers of girls perspective - I can find a lot more girls during the day than during the night. It is hard to find girls worth approaching during the night - big groups, cockblocking friends, lots of guys etc. Every once in a while I'll be "at the right time at the right place" during the night and a girl will just appear to be completely into me. But I find this very passive - all I can do is just wait for this to happen rather than make it happen.
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177 approaches a handful of dates and no bangs?

Are you maximizing everything you have to offer? Looks, physique, style/dress, etc

Do you think your approach is also up to par? Do you log the actions and reactions of your approaches?

Girls usually date up, guys usually date down - so it does make sense when you lower your standards you get more interest.

As the world becomes ever more connected, humans become less connected to eachother, we're all staring down on our iPhones.

I would highly invest in getting a good social circle created or joining one and networking.

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(04-09-2019 11:37 PM)Anchor Man Wrote:  Sorry for keep asking questions as I am gaming pretty hard those days .
It is more general question .
Plenty of times I am with a group of girls (friends, acquaintance, or coworkers) . If I starts giving more attention to a particular girl , the others start competing for my attention.(typical female behavior)
My question is as the following :
Is there a way to tell if a girl is really jealous because she is interested or she is just competing for the attention against the other girls ?

I get this all the time since I usually go out solo. I think that many girls do want that validation, which is annoying. Sometimes the friends do not get in the way and let you work the one girl. I think that this is the best indicator. Here is a good article on this specific topic:
https://www.girlschase.com/content/when-...e-over-you
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