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The young people of Iran don't support the Ayatollahs.

From what I can tell.
06-02-2013 11:55 AM
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(06-02-2013 11:34 AM)Sonsowey Wrote:  I have never been to Turkey, but in the Western/Internationalist press the impression I always got was:

"Turkey's mildly islamist government has a strong democratic mandate in Turkey, with secular opposition mainly focused in Ankara and Istanbul."

So it will be interesting to see if unrest spreads beyond the two main cities to other areas.

It's spread BIGTIME apparently. Yesterday there there were more than 1 million protestors in Istanbul alone. Ankara is heating up, and across the country the anti-Ergogan crowd is out - count is up to 67 cities where protests are in process still. That's over 90% of the country. 2000 arrests but no deaths (so far).

I was in Gorky Park today and right at the entrance there was even a little group of 40-50 Turks here protesting as well!!

Apparently Erdogan could give a sh*t and is acting very hawkish against the opposition, called Ataturk a "drunk", said Twitter was "evil"))

So I think we might not be seeing such a 'mildly Islamist' government soon enough, but who knows.

some of what the international press are reporting...of course in the US this takes backstage to tornados in Oklahoma Huh

http://www.foxnews.com/world/slideshow/2...y/#slide=2

http://edition.cnn.com/2013/06/02/world/...?hpt=hp_t1

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06-02-2013 01:32 PM
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Edrogan needs to go.
06-02-2013 02:02 PM
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I am staying in Ankara and it´s getting very loud now in the neighborhood. I won´t get probably sleep this night. People are on the street, no police at all. Tough times for Erdogan. Now things will get probably critical. Let´s see.
06-02-2013 02:10 PM
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So when I thought that the Turkish government uses a mandatory draft to combat it's Islamic extremists, I was right, but it's not the Kurdish people who are the extremists. Turns out the extremists are right in the Western parts.

The Kurdish people are just one more Turkish problem on top of many others.

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06-02-2013 02:10 PM
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Today they arrested a famous anchorman because he was giving free milk and water to protesters. He is questioned now in the department of "terrorism". Wow it's a shock even for me.
06-02-2013 03:42 PM
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Erdogan should resign.
People that lived in Turkey or know the country well know that this place isn't a real democracy.
The limitations on various fundamental liberties and on the news system are real and serious.
My heart goes to the protesters and to all my Turkish friends, I hope that if they succeed the new PM will be wiser and a little more liberal.
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06-02-2013 04:36 PM
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06-02-2013 09:47 PM
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06-02-2013 09:48 PM
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Notice how this Turkish protest movement happened right about the time Roosh took a hiatus from blogging and talked about leaving Romania for something new?! Coincidence, I think not! I got my eyes on you, Roosh. From DC, hmm, maybe working for the CIA to cause havoc in another Muslim country.
06-02-2013 09:55 PM
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My girl (Who is Turkish) was telling me that there is a big controversy going on right now about people thinking the president is Jewish.
06-02-2013 10:08 PM
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(06-02-2013 10:08 PM)InternationPlayboy Wrote:  My girl (Who is Turkish) was telling me that there is a big controversy going on right now about people thinking the president is Jewish.

There is always this kind of conspiracy theory shit .
06-02-2013 10:22 PM
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(06-02-2013 02:09 AM)ao85 Wrote:  Hopefully this stops the temporary flow of Turkish sex tourists to Russia so I can enjoy the summer in Moscow.

The day you’ll stop seeing Turkish sex tourists in Russia is the day Russian women stop having sex with Turkish men for money.
06-03-2013 12:15 AM
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A turkish chick i am seeing told me the prime minister is trying to flee
06-03-2013 12:59 AM
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(06-02-2013 02:09 AM)ao85 Wrote:  Hopefully this stops the temporary flow of Turkish sex tourists to Russia so I can enjoy the summer in Moscow.

ha ha I hear you, they do seem to be everywhere sometimes, but as another poster said good luck with that Smile

I feel for Turkey, this is clearly much worse than what was going on in Russia last year, and I fear more arrests and political backlash will soon be seen. The amount of protestors and violence from the police was much worse from what I saw. If anything seems like a much larger percentage of Turks are scared. From my discussions with Turkish friends abroad in NYC and London and just the guys on the street in Istanbul last year (ok so it was just my tour guide last year + the guys in the Grand Bazaar) most of the more western international and business crowd are firmly anti-Erdogen, seems to be at least half the country now! The Turkish economy was on a heater with strong growth over the past few years, but seems to be stalling a bit now.

From a pure international finance side the flows are already being seen out of Turkey, bonds dropping off a bit (but not massively), think that will continue until things get resovled. Might even be time to pick some stuff up cheap, but Turkish equities had such a huge run up and bonds were so tight they offered little value. Russia will actually benefit a bit from int'l fund flows as the 'baskets' for sovereign risk overlap....

Edit: Turkish equities down -5% right at the open, so could be in for a rough ride today!!

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It doesn't help that the Turkish authorities have absolutely no idea how to handle demonstrations like this.

Trying to calm a situation with tear gas is like trying to satisfy Lindy West with celery. It's just not going to happen.
06-03-2013 12:49 PM
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Turkish equities down -10.5% yesterday, bonds off 11%....could get uglier before it gets better. Erdogan seems to have really misplayed his hand here and even people in his own party are calling him on it....

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06-04-2013 04:36 AM
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(06-01-2013 11:50 AM)cardguy Wrote:  Why are people mad about a park being built on?

It began after a simple environmental protest against the destruction of Gezi Park was met with riot police.

After years of tension against Erdogan’s authoritarian stance against journalists, protestors, and even comics, the use of tear gas on peaceful protestors triggered the violent protests, with this image becoming the symbol of the protests:

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(06-02-2013 09:55 PM)Big Nilla Wrote:  Notice how this Turkish protest movement happened right about the time Roosh took a hiatus from blogging and talked about leaving Romania for something new?! Coincidence, I think not! I got my eyes on you, Roosh. From DC, hmm, maybe working for the CIA to cause havoc in another Muslim country.
Yea he's barley keeping his Twitter moving..

Hey Roosh while you're there you need to convince the Turks to move their cash into Bitcoins while they still can!
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I should game some of these solidarity chicks before it’s too late. I'll tell them I’m a Turkish warrior fighting for the freedom of my people from the fascist police.
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Ugly attention-whoring probably American or English women were waiting for an excuse to do this.
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(06-04-2013 03:19 PM)Kristian Wrote:  the end of Erdogan is near..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1BQ3mkF0...r_embedded

doesn't seem like Erdogan is going anywhere yet, but today there were more riot police storming the square's protestors:

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-06-11...ue-extreme

Turkish long bond way off....EM markets in the region have been hit pretty hard lately...Turkish long bonds got hammered the last couple of weeks (down about 8 points), sure feels like it will get worse before better especially given the bond flows...nobody buying (but the markets have run uup a TON already this year).

Russia not feeling all that strong either now given our wonderful 1.6% GDP growth in the 1Q. We're still fine but things can get ugly in a hurry.....

EDIT: Sh*T I finally figured out that Taksim square is in a pretty swanky region of Istanbul right around where some 5* hotels and apartment blocks are (and near where I stayed last time). Supposedly one of the most European and Cosmopolitan areas of Istanbul. Wonderful...

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