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Alabama did the right thing if you ask me. Fuck these feminists
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RE: What Are Your Thoughts on Abortion?
The first issue is, leave it to the states. People are less angry if they have some autonomy. If they are closer to the decision making (voting at a state level = vote means more) and have options (much easier to move to the state nextdoor vs moving out of country), there's far less conflict on issues like this. I.e. pre Roe v Wade

The second issue is, not pretending the morning after pill is the same as jamming a pair of scissors into the back of the head of a third trimester baby. After point #1 (leaving it up to states), let states determine laws based on xx weeks old. Again, this offers a compromise to "abortion is murder" and "mothers/doctors who perform abortions should be imprisoned".

The last and final issue is, how each individual feels about abortion. Most people fall on the gradient between morning after pill and ~30 weeks.

Also, abortion is still a very relevant issue even if as a proxy for states' rights. Drug laws? States' rights. Marriage laws? States' rights. etc, etc.

As much as I disagree on most issues with Louis CK, his opening abortion bit on his last special actually tackles the issue as well as anything I've seen.

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How do you guys balance being pro abortion and the declining white demographics?

Don't debate me.
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(05-15-2019 03:41 AM)loremipsum Wrote:  
Quote:Alabama just passed a near-total abortion ban with no exceptions for rape or incest

The legislation -- House Bill 314, "Human Life Protection Act" -- bans all abortions in the state except when "abortion is necessary in order to prevent a serious health risk" to the woman, according to the bill's text. It criminalizes the procedure, reclassifying abortion as a Class A felony, punishable by up to 99 years in prison for doctors.

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Waiting for the outrage

This was on purpose and apart of a larger plan.

This will get tossed out on its face in court and move up the circuit.

The whole point is to get this law/argument to the supreme court and overturn Roe V Wade there.

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(05-16-2019 10:57 AM)kaotic Wrote:  
(05-15-2019 03:41 AM)loremipsum Wrote:  
Quote:Alabama just passed a near-total abortion ban with no exceptions for rape or incest

The legislation -- House Bill 314, "Human Life Protection Act" -- bans all abortions in the state except when "abortion is necessary in order to prevent a serious health risk" to the woman, according to the bill's text. It criminalizes the procedure, reclassifying abortion as a Class A felony, punishable by up to 99 years in prison for doctors.

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Waiting for the outrage

This was on purpose and apart of a larger plan.

This will get tossed out on its face in court and move up the circuit.

The whole point is to get this law/argument to the supreme court and overturn Roe V Wade there.

It will get tossed at the circuit level, and the appellate and then be put to SCOTUS, but I doubt SCOTUS will agree to hear it.

Its interesting that this is all of a sudden coming to the forefront in several states simultaneously.

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RE: What Are Your Thoughts on Abortion?
Missourah just passed the same bill today (if I remember correctly)


To answer the op.


If they want abortions , they have to pay for them themselves. Mind your business.
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(05-16-2019 11:11 AM)PapayaTapper Wrote:  
(05-16-2019 10:57 AM)kaotic Wrote:  
(05-15-2019 03:41 AM)loremipsum Wrote:  
Quote:Alabama just passed a near-total abortion ban with no exceptions for rape or incest

The legislation -- House Bill 314, "Human Life Protection Act" -- bans all abortions in the state except when "abortion is necessary in order to prevent a serious health risk" to the woman, according to the bill's text. It criminalizes the procedure, reclassifying abortion as a Class A felony, punishable by up to 99 years in prison for doctors.

link

Waiting for the outrage

This was on purpose and apart of a larger plan.

This will get tossed out on its face in court and move up the circuit.

The whole point is to get this law/argument to the supreme court and overturn Roe V Wade there.

It will get tossed at the circuit level, and the appellate and then be put to SCOTUS, but I doubt SCOTUS will agree to hear it.

Its interesting that this is all of a sudden coming to the forefront in several states simultaneously.

Agreed, I don't think SCOTUS will hear it, but this was coordinated, this wasn't some coincidence these abortions laws being passed at the same time.

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RE: What Are Your Thoughts on Abortion?
I think men should have a say on abortion and that it's not only a woman's issue simply because it's her body. A child affects a man as much as it affects a woman. If a woman wants to have a child but the man doesn't she should have an abortion or pay for it entirely on her own. If a man wants to have the child but the woman doesn't then she should get the final say but she should realize how that is going to emotionally impact the man and society shouldn't handwave that fact.

I agree with abortions entirely because to me it's a last resort to prevent men and women from 18 years of servitude that they may not willingly want to engage in. No one should be forced to have a child they don't want. The fact that sex is a choice doesn't mean pregnancy is a choice. Sex is programmed into us at a genetic level and is required for most people to be happy. We can't expect people to forgo sex simply to forgo pregnancy because that will lead to a lot of unhappy people. Statistically, we know it just doesn't work. People's genetics overpower their logic.
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RE: What Are Your Thoughts on Abortion?
Anything women are behind, I am fairly certain it is 666% evil.
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I have learn recently that there are roughly 200 000 abortions yearly in France since the 80's.

The immigration in France each year is also in the 200 000's.

And there's still people who will say that there's no replacement and tell you you're a racist.
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At least abortion is one thing you can't blame on the Jews. It is women doing it to themselves.

Don't debate me.
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The Washington Post ran an opinion piece today titled "Can corporations save us from the attack on reproductive rights?"

I don't think the writer and editors get how unintentionally ridiculous this is. Here we have a newspaper, owned by a guy who runs a mega-corporation (Amazon), and they run an op/ed concerned first and foremost about the plight of female worker bees.

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By Catherine Rampell

When our political system fails us, when our electoral system fails us and when even our judicial system fails us, can corporate America serve as our final firewall against terrible state policies designed to rob women of their reproductive autonomy?

That is not a reassuring question to have to consider.

This year, more than a dozen states have worked to ban abortion about six weeks after conception, before many women even realize they’re pregnant. In a handful of states, the bills have already been signed into law. Combined, they place draconian new limits on women’s control over their bodies, limits that appear to contravene Roe v. Wade, as well as Americans’ own mixed views on abortion rights.

Georgia’s new law, for instance, may interact with other statutes already on the books to criminalize leaving the state or even helping someone leave the state for an abortion. Depending on how the law is interpreted, women who miscarry might be interrogated or even prosecuted.

Missouri banned abortion at eight weeks, with no exceptions for rape or incest — exceptions favored even by 57 percent of Americans who self-identify as “pro-life,” according to Gallup. Doctors who violate the law would face up to 15 years in prison.

Alabama’s governor has signed a law that bans nearly all abortions, also with no exclusions for rape or incest; it threatens doctors who perform abortions with up to 99 years in prison. A doctor in Alabama who helps end the pregnancy of a raped 13-year-old could therefore be subject to a harsher prison sentence than the person who committed the rape.

Such legislation presents a terrifying situation for women who miscarry or otherwise have complicated pregnancies; for women and girls who are victims of sexual assault; or for women who simply wish to control their own reproductive health choices.

But such legislation also presents a problem for companies in these states.

There are, after all, lots of big firms headquartered in places such as Atlanta, Columbus, St. Louis and Birmingham. Many have worked hard to recruit and retain talent, including young female talent.

What kind of sales pitch is it to say: Come join Coca-Cola in sunny Atlanta — where if you have a miscarriage, you might be questioned by police!

Or: Please manage an auto plant in friendly Alabama, where if your 12-year-old daughter is raped, she will be forced to give birth to her rapist’s child!

Or: Sign on to the Macy’s management team in Cincinnati, where if you have an ectopic pregnancy, our health insurance may be legally barred from covering the medical treatment needed to save your life!

All the pink ribbons and paid leave and Lean-In circles in the world may not be enough to recruit women to states where they have to check their reproductive autonomy at the border.

To be sure, larger companies and industry groups may be loath to take a public position on a polarizing issue that could alienate some customers. In fact, I contacted a half-dozen multinational companies headquartered in states that recently passed antiabortion legislation to ask whether they worry that the new laws might affect their ability to recruit talent. Only one (Delta Air Lines, based in Atlanta) responded, to say no comment.

So far, just a smattering of small film production companies have announced an outright boycott; in response to antiabortion legislation in Georgia (which offers generous film tax credits), they said such legislation is both morally objectionable and threatens the rights of crew members. The Motion Picture Association of America has been cagey about its own position, suggesting in a statement that it may not be worth worrying about a law that could get stalled in the courts.

But incentives may change, particularly if the courts allow these laws to stand — and employees begin to realize how intrusive they truly are. Recall that we’ve already seen companies cancel corporate conventions, sports and entertainment events, relocations, expansions and other investments over other social issues, such as North Carolina’s so-called bathroom bill and Indiana’s anti-gay “religious freedom” law.

Presumably, most of these boycotts or canceled investments happened not because the companies have much of a moral compass. It’s because they realized — given the preferences of their employees and customers — that spending dollars in these places would be bad for business. Rattled by the corporate defections, politicians ultimately rolled back or amended their inflammatory laws.

Counting on cynical, amoral, profit-maximizing private firms to serve as the last bulwark for women’s rights certainly seems risky. But given the makeup of the Supreme Court, we may not have much of a choice.

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(05-17-2019 02:24 AM)Pride male Wrote:  At least abortion is one thing you can't blame on the Jews. It is women doing it to themselves.


Women have their part of responsibility on this of course, nobody is forcing them to do it.
But look at how they have been brainwashed for the past 50 years into thinking that abortion is a right, and look at ((who)) started that propaganda.
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/ar...abama.html

Emily Ratajkowski let it be known that she is not pleased with the recent Alabama law prohibiting abortions.

The 27-year-old actress posed naked for a photo shared on Instagram where she decried the '25 old white men' who approved HB 314, a comprehensive bill essentially banning abortions even in the event of rape and incest.

Emily kept her arm over her chest and positioned a pink flower below for the daring photo posted on Thursday morning.

[Image: 13586864-0-image-a-144_1558027802675.jpg]


Love how everyday job of getting naked suddenly is 'daring' in this case
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(05-17-2019 08:30 AM)Deusleveult Wrote:  
(05-17-2019 02:24 AM)Pride male Wrote:  At least abortion is one thing you can't blame on the Jews. It is women doing it to themselves.


Women have their part of responsibility on this of course, nobody is forcing them to do it.
But look at how they have been brainwashed for the past 50 years into thinking that abortion is a right, and look at ((who)) started that propaganda.

Women don't believe in responsibility. At least, they don't believe in their own personal responsibility.
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I find it (abortion) barbaric and revolting. In cases of rape , incest and threats to the mothers life, I don't think we could rule out abortion. Otherwise, convenience is not a reason to kill a child
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(05-17-2019 08:50 PM)hedonist Wrote:  [Image: 13586864-0-image-a-144_1558027802675.jpg]


Love how everyday job of getting naked suddenly is 'daring' in this case


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I wish more states would ban abortion if it means more of these photoshoots. I am about to give up on no fap for a little bit.

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I hate abortion, it's murder and sacrifice to satan, and i hope all those who support it burn in Hell. Good on you Alabama.
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(05-17-2019 02:24 AM)Pride male Wrote:  At least abortion is one thing you can't blame on the Jews.

Abortion in France was made legal by the Veil law :
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loi_Veil

Named after Simone Veil :
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simone_Veil

That does not make me an antisemite but the cumulated sum of coincidences is still impressing.
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Completely support this ban. Abortion supporters have shown how tremendously irresponsible and greedy they are thousands of times since abortion was first legalized, and instead of being happy that they were granted this right as a lesser evil they escalated it to demonizing anyone mildly encouraging them to use it with consideration and finally dialed it up a notch to killing babies at birth and selling their organs. Enjoy your blowback, freaks!

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(05-18-2019 04:33 AM)Zevs Wrote:  I hate abortion, it's murder and sacrifice to satan, and i hope all those who support it burn in Hell. Good on you Alabama.

I think of it as modern-day Molech worship.

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(05-17-2019 10:23 PM)eradicator Wrote:  
(05-17-2019 08:50 PM)hedonist Wrote:  [Image: 13586864-0-image-a-144_1558027802675.jpg]


Love how everyday job of getting naked suddenly is 'daring' in this case


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I wish more states would ban abortion if it means more of these photoshoots. I am about to give up on no fap for a little bit.

Dude, she's over 25. Even noticing her existence makes you an insta-beta.

I jest.

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