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RE: Manosphere has lost?
(08-18-2013 01:08 AM)tiggaling Wrote:  I'm not at all down with manospheric nihlism which I think is largely borne out being burnt too many times (or even all the time!) by dysfunctional western status whores.

But you have to realize, more and more men coming to this realization is going to make these women irrelevant because there are fewer men willing to put up with their shit. The women will either eventually change (doubtful based on what we've seen so far) or just die out. Many career oriented women with no domestic skills are already on a path to extinction because they're denying the fundamental reality that most of their value comes from their looks and sexuality. They can only ignore the truth for so long..

I wouldn't say it is a significant number yet, but I do see less men willing to tolerate these high investment / low reward cunts than in the past. We're already seeing marriage rates dropping and without any incentives for men, more of us are going to avoid serious commitments with women. Over time this will definitely change things into something we haven't seen before.
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RE: Manosphere has lost?
One other thing, Nomad. It's entirely-possible you're ascribing hatred, bitterness and / or nihilism to the posts you're reading, because you can't gauge the temperament of the person writing through text.

I write what I write about women from a place of absolute logic, based on observable behaviour, predictable psychological drives and personal experience. I've learnt to expect nothing more than erratic, emotion-driven, often-irrational self-interest from them, and am therefore never disappointed by them. They're consistent in their inconsistency.

I'm not angry about them, because I recognise I don't need one to complete me. They're the agents of their own destruction and misery. I just don't entertain unrealistic fantasies about them either.
08-18-2013 02:53 AM
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RE: Manosphere has lost?
(08-18-2013 01:23 AM)Vitriol Wrote:  But you have to realize, more and more men coming to this realization is going to make these women irrelevant because there are fewer men willing to put up with their shit.

I'm not seeing much evidence of that realisation in women. I'm just seeing evidence of weak betas who just unconsciously feed the beast and for myself, having to deal with the betaman marks and tracks on women who spoil these women literally rotten.

Quote:The women will either eventually change (doubtful based on what we've seen so far) or just die out. Many career oriented women with no domestic skills are already on a path to extinction because they're denying the fundamental reality that most of their value comes from their looks and sexuality. They can only ignore the truth for so long..

This is all evident in the west, yes - even covered in the media. Well known even among so-called blue pill friends.

Quote:I wouldn't say it is a significant number yet, but I do see less men willing to tolerate these high investment / low reward cunts than in the past. We're already seeing marriage rates dropping and without any incentives for men, more of us are going to avoid serious commitments with women. Over time this will definitely change things into something we haven't seen before.

Yes, and I think men have to be pro-active into transforming the paradigm into something they want and make the point clear.

For many who post here, it is like, "Fuck this shit!" and go to some other country where the fruit is ripe and juicy. I'm down with that, but also feel a sense of duty to my home turf I don't feel able to truly fulfil to the extent that I could. Perhaps that is because I'm still part of the problem, rather than being able to provide any sort of solution.

(08-18-2013 01:16 AM)AnonymousBosch Wrote:  One truth I've learnt in life is this: you can't help people who don't want to help themselves. They also have to admit that they actually need help, and fat fucking chance getting a modern girl to admit she's anything less than perfect exactly how she is.

I agree. Perhaps it will get to a point where it is admitted or understood that this "help" is required, but also men are responsible for making that situation clear.

I actually do find some humility in some western women, even very pretty one's, but I find have less and less tolerance for spoilt rotten princesses, with nothing to give apart from validation I don't need and a vagina that doesn't get me hard.



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Looks like I'm a little late to this party, but read this: http://no-maam.blogspot.com/2012/07/bull...n-mrm.html

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(08-18-2013 07:48 AM)pump_and_romance Wrote:  Looks like I'm a little late to this party, but read this: http://no-maam.blogspot.com/2012/07/bull...n-mrm.html

We're not out to make a difference. We are mostly individualistic and loving it.

If I can make a difference in just one other man's life, then it was worth it.

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Right but the point is that most of us are just doing our own thing. This may be the 'Roosh V Forum' but most of us aren't blindly following Roosh or anyone else. This isn't a political victimization movement, it's just a bunch of dudes having a good time (hopefully) and sharing their experiences with each other.
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(08-13-2013 07:16 PM)Roosh Wrote:  What's surprising is that veggie_girl has a special "Endorsed" icon which means she was selected by a mod for having special and elevated insight into Red Pill thinking. Her comments seem to get a lot of upvotes. I wonder if that would be the case if her name was veggie_boy.

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A straight from the horse's mouth example of what happens when you allow women to infiltrate the manosphere: an attempt to hijack the movement, censor explicitly pro-male content and make the space comfortable for women. What a joke. These reddit chodes need to wake up, they're at risk of not only actively enabling the destruction of their own community, but making the rest of us look bad by association.

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Never understood the appeal of Reddit, always seemed like a sterilized attempt to mainstream 4chan, so who gives a fuck about their "red pill"?

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(08-13-2013 04:37 PM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:  3). As of Sunday, my sister-in-law hates me for mentioning boys get the short-shrift in school. She could not interpret what I was saying and took it on an attack on women in general.


I don't understand. Are you talking about elementary, high school, or college? How exactly do men have a disadvantage?(I've been out of school for a while). I am not necessarily disagreeing, I just don't know what you are referring to.
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The response to Roosh's article on Reddit is friggin' sad. There's a circle jerk of trying to agree what constitutes trolling; people trying to redefine the Red Pill Community to meet their own personal belief system; and Endorsed Contributers actually calling members misogynists. It's like listening to a bunch of women trying to organise something. It will implode or be feminised out of existence within a year.

My favourite bit:

Endorsed Contributer Humansockpuppet: We are not women.

Endorsed Contributer Veggie_girl: blah blah fucking blah....


160+ comments and no-one addresses the Veggie_Girl elephant in the room.

No, wait. This is my favourite bit.

Endorsed Contributer Humansockpuppet: [in criticism of Roosh, TVF and ROK] The celebrity mindset is how most people end up going off the deep end, and how most communities end up getting spoiled by a small minority of super-powered users who have become high on their own entitlement.

Phaint: Then we should remove the endorsement beside yours and everyone else's names.

Endorsed Contributer Humansockpuppet: That wouldn't do anything. The purpose of the "endorsed contributor" tag is to assist readers in identifying commenters who have a thorough understanding of Red Pill philosophy.


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RE: Manosphere has lost?
(08-18-2013 11:59 AM)scorpion Wrote:  
(08-13-2013 07:16 PM)Roosh Wrote:  What's surprising is that veggie_girl has a special "Endorsed" icon which means she was selected by a mod for having special and elevated insight into Red Pill thinking. Her comments seem to get a lot of upvotes. I wonder if that would be the case if her name was veggie_boy.

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A straight from the horse's mouth example of what happens when you allow women to infiltrate the manosphere: an attempt to hijack the movement, censor explicitly pro-male content and make the space comfortable for women. What a joke. These reddit chodes need to wake up, they're at risk of not only actively enabling the destruction of their own community, but making the rest of us look bad by association.

Exactly. Part of the red pill is an intimate understanding that it is in women's natures to attempt to shape male identity. They do it instinctively. It's what all this nonsense about "changing a man" in a relationship is all about. This red pill realization is what makes concepts like patriarchy and female oppression so laughable -- if patriarchy existed, women surely played a critical role in its formation, which of course makes a contradiction apparent.

Red pill to me means that one can see this, and that one can see that nothing has changed; the very same sociobiological forces are occurring on a macro scale in our civilization. Judgybitch recently published an article examining how the birth control pill prevents hormonal spikes and has made women favor more effeminate men. It's probably not a coincidence, then, that the cultural preeminence of the mangina began at around the same time as the availability of female hormonal birth control.

Veggiegirl can stamp her feet and call herself red pill until she's blue in the face. She just demonstrated the female tendency to attempt to control and shape male identity. She wants a "community agreement" that RoK sucks.

Western culture is one giant "community agreement" made by women on what sucks and what doesn't suck.

As has been previously documented in this thread, she's not above using her sex to exert this control.

At some point any red pill community will be coopted by women, who will attempt to control the identity of that community. At the point when they succeed, that community becomes blue pill again.
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Reddit avoids posting Gawker media because Adrian Chen doxes reddit moderators for fun and profit.

http://www.theguardian.com/technology/20...gawker-ban

Quote:However the consensus amongst the /r/politics mods was that Chen was witch-hunting an individual – not for breaking a law, but for doing something he, Chen, found distasteful. We (as a group) found that a dangerous precedent to set. We feel that Chen has had a long campaign against Reddit, and decided (as a group, despite individual concerns) that we did not want to condone someone attempting to destroy someone's else's life for doing something they didn't like.
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This is my follow up post on this topic:

http://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-27330.html
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