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(01-06-2019 04:35 PM)dannyboy318 Wrote:  I get what World traveler is saying though, it's just a blanket statement..I grew up in redneck Georgia, so I'm sure my experience is alot different than my cousins on California but overall ( not including the Asian studs) America sucks for asians male wanting to date white girls if you're unwilling to embrace some of western culture..At the end of the day.. Game is Game..

There in lies the problem....

Same for Asian dudes if they're in Latin America or anywhere as well

Yes game is indeed game but being able to communicate with people on their own level actually comprises "half of the game" in certain parts of the world more so than other parts. That is exponentially more important than pre-meditated tactics taught by your PUA gurus.

As crazy as it sounds, the ability to communicate on a more "superficial level" is more valued in places like Latin America, North America, or anywhere in the Anglo world. I don't mean that by flashing cash, bragging about wealth, etc.

Making timely jokes, certain types of nonverbal communication, a deeper understanding of their pop culture, and being able to react accordingly to locals in a way that touches their "emotional" buttons correctly are valued more than say how things work in say Europe/Asia. Even the best looking guys of any ethnicity will not succeed in game consistently if they can't find common ground with locals on their own "superficial" level of thinking in these areas. I think that's a problem many Asian PUAs have when it comes to sitting back & analyzing how game works in the Anglo world.

I'm not saying you can't get laid in Latin America, Spain, or the Anglo world without finding common ground with these people on their level but getting the desired results "consistently" will be a much tougher feat to achieve without that.

In most parts of Europe/Asia however (Not UK/Spain), it's ok to be perceived as "socially awkward" where demonstrating traits like intellect and logical thinking is more valued in these areas. Style, looks, and generic game tactics goes a much longer way here without going the extra mile to find cultural common ground with locals on the levels they were raised in.

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(10-27-2018 12:53 AM)monsquid Wrote:  Don't know about you guys but I'm about ready to pack it all up to seek a different life in Asia. Tired of feeling sexually invisible to most women. The amount of effort required to bang a 6 in the mid atlantic is heinous. At 33 I don't have much time left to be fucking around. I just don't see myself getting anymore satisfaction out of life in the US. I've thought this carefully through and I'm ready to take career hit to make this transition. Maybe after I have a family I will come back so I can raise my kids here but even that is questionable if I can maintain a decent of quality of life overseas.

Other than money living in the US seems to offer nothing else. Security and stability can be had in top tier asian cities.

Have you guys had similar thoughts? Maybe my patience is wearing thin.
Funny, I feel a little similar, although in my case it's mostly my age (early 40s) and not being willing to lie about it (I look 35). Plus being in the Bay Area, totally saturated with dudes and ok not great looking chicks. Nothing wrong with my age but here I can only go out with women in their 30s who are 6s.

My solution is to relocate to Colombia / Mexico. My first trip to Colombia my Spanish was almost nothing and I was banging 6s in their early to mid-30s. By my third trip (3rd month total) I was banging 7.5s in their early 20s to early 30s, which is definitely good enough for me. Even the early 30 year olds can be smoking hot in Colombia, and in Bogota I love the educated, sophisticated-sexy vibe. What I've found in Bogota at least is that it's easier to stand out right away, and that gives entry into them finding out how cool and awesome you really are, assuming you've done that work to build up your life. Whereas here I think it's easy to get written off as just another Asian techie before even given a chance.

As an Asian-American professional, let me count the ways in which your status goes up in Colombia:
- You are suddenly tall (I'm 5'9", avg Colombian man is 5'5")
- You suddenly are rich (assume purchasing power multiplier of 2.5x)
- You are unique (not an Asian in a sea of Asians)
- Gringo factor (if not literally, the prospect of being exposed to American culture)
- You are a world traveler, which just happens to be the biggest dream a lot of Colombian women seem to have. There are whole new year's day rituals designed around hoping to travel as far as possible in the world, no lie! (lifestyle game is a layup)
- There is a mildly curious view of Asians there (to me, I view it as a slight plus, which is noticeably better than in the States)
- Age gap is much less of a problem (this stacks great with Asian youthful genes...last trip I got action with 2 21-year old 7.5s)

On top of that, I have these status raisers:
- Good salsa dancer. I know 3 different styles and can adapt to almost anyone. I love the music and feel it deeply, a salsa club is my home away from home.
- Solid musician - pay my rent with music and have good clips to pique girls' interest
- Better than avg spanish - you guys are smart, spanish is not hard, use that to your advantage
- I'm enamored with Colombia and girls want to be excited with me - it's an attractive quality when you are feeling alive, it's contagious

Essentially I have almost no 'game', but some of the game concepts like DHV are in the back of my mind when I go on first dates. Also what's funny is dating in Spanish is somehow easier for me I think, because there is more space to be silly when you are a non-native foreign speaker (think Borat). Also easier to sound sophisticated by using a few fancy words now and then. The ambiguity makes it easier for me to take pauses and pay attention to the girl's non verbals, and i naturally feel more adventurous saying directly romantic / sexual things---no deprogramming to do.

I love the warmth of the people, and the pace of life, a great foil to the heavy tech R&D work I do. Reality is I'm going just as much for the lifestyle outside of dating as in it. I guess I've found a niche, so keep trying till you find yours....experiment, analyze, and keep improving yourself brothers! Question everything!
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Are you living there and doing work remotely?
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Great video of Asian guy doing well in Medellin.

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Mike? Yeh he is doing well there
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(02-01-2019 07:28 AM)worldtraveler3 Wrote:  Are you living there and doing work remotely?
Yes, the only way to roll in Colombia Smile
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Hmm, any EastAsian guys with European/MiddleEastern women here?

I live in London and I've noticed sometimes I get stares from MiddleEastern women (including ones from North Africa)...Also, I've fing**** a 7 MiddleEastern girl at her home in London before
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Well I have a Macedonian girl. She has a Balkan look with brown hair which isn't that far from the Turkish look.
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(01-31-2019 02:53 AM)aeye Wrote:  
(10-27-2018 12:53 AM)monsquid Wrote:  Don't know about you guys but I'm about ready to pack it all up to seek a different life in Asia. Tired of feeling sexually invisible to most women. The amount of effort required to bang a 6 in the mid atlantic is heinous. At 33 I don't have much time left to be fucking around. I just don't see myself getting anymore satisfaction out of life in the US. I've thought this carefully through and I'm ready to take career hit to make this transition. Maybe after I have a family I will come back so I can raise my kids here but even that is questionable if I can maintain a decent of quality of life overseas.

Other than money living in the US seems to offer nothing else. Security and stability can be had in top tier asian cities.

Have you guys had similar thoughts? Maybe my patience is wearing thin.
Funny, I feel a little similar, although in my case it's mostly my age (early 40s) and not being willing to lie about it (I look 35). Plus being in the Bay Area, totally saturated with dudes and ok not great looking chicks. Nothing wrong with my age but here I can only go out with women in their 30s who are 6s.

My solution is to relocate to Colombia / Mexico. My first trip to Colombia my Spanish was almost nothing and I was banging 6s in their early to mid-30s. By my third trip (3rd month total) I was banging 7.5s in their early 20s to early 30s, which is definitely good enough for me. Even the early 30 year olds can be smoking hot in Colombia, and in Bogota I love the educated, sophisticated-sexy vibe. What I've found in Bogota at least is that it's easier to stand out right away, and that gives entry into them finding out how cool and awesome you really are, assuming you've done that work to build up your life. Whereas here I think it's easy to get written off as just another Asian techie before even given a chance.

As an Asian-American professional, let me count the ways in which your status goes up in Colombia:
- You are suddenly tall (I'm 5'9", avg Colombian man is 5'5")
- You suddenly are rich (assume purchasing power multiplier of 2.5x)
- You are unique (not an Asian in a sea of Asians)
- Gringo factor (if not literally, the prospect of being exposed to American culture)
- You are a world traveler, which just happens to be the biggest dream a lot of Colombian women seem to have. There are whole new year's day rituals designed around hoping to travel as far as possible in the world, no lie! (lifestyle game is a layup)
- There is a mildly curious view of Asians there (to me, I view it as a slight plus, which is noticeably better than in the States)
- Age gap is much less of a problem (this stacks great with Asian youthful genes...last trip I got action with 2 21-year old 7.5s)

On top of that, I have these status raisers:
- Good salsa dancer. I know 3 different styles and can adapt to almost anyone. I love the music and feel it deeply, a salsa club is my home away from home.
- Solid musician - pay my rent with music and have good clips to pique girls' interest
- Better than avg spanish - you guys are smart, spanish is not hard, use that to your advantage
- I'm enamored with Colombia and girls want to be excited with me - it's an attractive quality when you are feeling alive, it's contagious

Essentially I have almost no 'game', but some of the game concepts like DHV are in the back of my mind when I go on first dates. Also what's funny is dating in Spanish is somehow easier for me I think, because there is more space to be silly when you are a non-native foreign speaker (think Borat). Also easier to sound sophisticated by using a few fancy words now and then. The ambiguity makes it easier for me to take pauses and pay attention to the girl's non verbals, and i naturally feel more adventurous saying directly romantic / sexual things---no deprogramming to do.

I love the warmth of the people, and the pace of life, a great foil to the heavy tech R&D work I do. Reality is I'm going just as much for the lifestyle outside of dating as in it. I guess I've found a niche, so keep trying till you find yours....experiment, analyze, and keep improving yourself brothers! Question everything!

Interesting... how does it compare to EE / other places you've been? Can you get by with no spanish? Did day approach, tinder etc work best for you?

I wouldn't have thunk locals were that short.

Also straying off topic - what do you people think about Lithuania and Balkans for asian dudes? (compared to more standard EE countries)
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(03-08-2019 05:40 AM)Joeno Wrote:  
(01-31-2019 02:53 AM)aeye Wrote:  
(10-27-2018 12:53 AM)monsquid Wrote:  Don't know about you guys but I'm about ready to pack it all up to seek a different life in Asia. Tired of feeling sexually invisible to most women. The amount of effort required to bang a 6 in the mid atlantic is heinous. At 33 I don't have much time left to be fucking around. I just don't see myself getting anymore satisfaction out of life in the US. I've thought this carefully through and I'm ready to take career hit to make this transition. Maybe after I have a family I will come back so I can raise my kids here but even that is questionable if I can maintain a decent of quality of life overseas.

Other than money living in the US seems to offer nothing else. Security and stability can be had in top tier asian cities.

Have you guys had similar thoughts? Maybe my patience is wearing thin.
Funny, I feel a little similar, although in my case it's mostly my age (early 40s) and not being willing to lie about it (I look 35). Plus being in the Bay Area, totally saturated with dudes and ok not great looking chicks. Nothing wrong with my age but here I can only go out with women in their 30s who are 6s.

My solution is to relocate to Colombia / Mexico. My first trip to Colombia my Spanish was almost nothing and I was banging 6s in their early to mid-30s. By my third trip (3rd month total) I was banging 7.5s in their early 20s to early 30s, which is definitely good enough for me. Even the early 30 year olds can be smoking hot in Colombia, and in Bogota I love the educated, sophisticated-sexy vibe. What I've found in Bogota at least is that it's easier to stand out right away, and that gives entry into them finding out how cool and awesome you really are, assuming you've done that work to build up your life. Whereas here I think it's easy to get written off as just another Asian techie before even given a chance.

As an Asian-American professional, let me count the ways in which your status goes up in Colombia:
- You are suddenly tall (I'm 5'9", avg Colombian man is 5'5")
- You suddenly are rich (assume purchasing power multiplier of 2.5x)
- You are unique (not an Asian in a sea of Asians)
- Gringo factor (if not literally, the prospect of being exposed to American culture)
- You are a world traveler, which just happens to be the biggest dream a lot of Colombian women seem to have. There are whole new year's day rituals designed around hoping to travel as far as possible in the world, no lie! (lifestyle game is a layup)
- There is a mildly curious view of Asians there (to me, I view it as a slight plus, which is noticeably better than in the States)
- Age gap is much less of a problem (this stacks great with Asian youthful genes...last trip I got action with 2 21-year old 7.5s)

On top of that, I have these status raisers:
- Good salsa dancer. I know 3 different styles and can adapt to almost anyone. I love the music and feel it deeply, a salsa club is my home away from home.
- Solid musician - pay my rent with music and have good clips to pique girls' interest
- Better than avg spanish - you guys are smart, spanish is not hard, use that to your advantage
- I'm enamored with Colombia and girls want to be excited with me - it's an attractive quality when you are feeling alive, it's contagious

Essentially I have almost no 'game', but some of the game concepts like DHV are in the back of my mind when I go on first dates. Also what's funny is dating in Spanish is somehow easier for me I think, because there is more space to be silly when you are a non-native foreign speaker (think Borat). Also easier to sound sophisticated by using a few fancy words now and then. The ambiguity makes it easier for me to take pauses and pay attention to the girl's non verbals, and i naturally feel more adventurous saying directly romantic / sexual things---no deprogramming to do.

I love the warmth of the people, and the pace of life, a great foil to the heavy tech R&D work I do. Reality is I'm going just as much for the lifestyle outside of dating as in it. I guess I've found a niche, so keep trying till you find yours....experiment, analyze, and keep improving yourself brothers! Question everything!

Interesting... how does it compare to EE / other places you've been? Can you get by with no spanish? Did day approach, tinder etc work best for you?

I wouldn't have thunk locals were that short.

Also straying off topic - what do you people think about Lithuania and Balkans for asian dudes? (compared to more standard EE countries)

Lithuania is good for Asians, Balkans are not bad if you are good looking and tall. There are actually a few Balkan girls that like Asian guys.
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(01-03-2019 04:33 AM)dannyboy318 Wrote:  As an American Asian dude that have been traveling constantly for the last 5 years, I can say Northern and Eastern Europe is the best for Asian male. I see loads of AM dating WF all over Europe. In Asia the only country I have seen the local AM date WM would some parts of Thailand, Philippines (Boracay) and Bali def leads the pack in that category. But ultimately comes down to how you present yourself. I have actually never dated an Asian woman and growing up in the Georgia,and being in military, majority of my friends are white,black or Hispanic so I picked up different hobbies that makes some of the western girls find attractive. Anyways good luck hunting guys!

Which countries do you think AMWF couples would get stares?
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Starting to notice that Asian guys with Jewish girls is definitely turning into a thing here in NYC, a lot of these girls are sexy as fuck too. Asian dudes definitely get play from Jewish and Eastern European women in NYC, I am not talking FOB Eastern Euro women, I mean the ones who are more westernized and chill. The couples are usually young too (college age and 20s) and the guy is definitely well put together (fit, style on point, and overall cool kid).

I have to say from where stuff was at years ago, Asian dudes have come a long fucking way in the US. I've seen some of the taller decent looking ones with quality girls of all races. Even starting to see sexy Indian women with Asian guys as well. I am starting to almost envy Asian dudes these days as an Indian guy, like I wish my brown brothers would learn from you guys because you're doing way better than us out there.

As for the recent comment about Middle Eastern women and European women with that swarthy look, here is my experience in the US with those kinds of women, cannot speak to Europe. I've said this in so many other threads and even brought it into the thread about French women which got me a lot of shit.

If you guys in the US want women with that kind of a look, just game Jewish girls, "American" girls more on the tanned side, and Eastern European women (Slavic chicks are kind of a wild card though). Women from these groups are proud of their backgrounds, some very educated (Jewish girls), and tend to go for alpha guys in general. The kind of culture a woman is raised in has a huge say in the kinds of men she goes for.

I'd stay far away from Middle Eastern and Mediterranean women, at least here in the US. Most of them come from narcissist, vain, and largely insecure cultures that value status and popularity a great bit, this is why they commonly go for the blond hair blue eyed trollish looking dudes.
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How’s Moldova for Filipino guys
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(03-13-2019 12:26 AM)Tyrantkid Wrote:  How’s Moldova for Filipino guys

That's actually a great question, but unfortunately, it is something that you may have to find out by yourself.

On the flip side, actually exploring Moldova as a Filipino guy and writing a datasheet about it will definitely help you gain reputation significantly on this forum.
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The best country for an Asian guy from the west to score with a white/non-Asian girl is actually most Asian country. Most white/latina girls I met in Asia had yellow fever or were opened to dating Asian men. This is my experience after travelling around Asia.
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(03-12-2019 05:20 PM)Tall_asian_guy Wrote:  
(01-03-2019 04:33 AM)dannyboy318 Wrote:  As an American Asian dude that have been traveling constantly for the last 5 years, I can say Northern and Eastern Europe is the best for Asian male. I see loads of AM dating WF all over Europe. In Asia the only country I have seen the local AM date WM would some parts of Thailand, Philippines (Boracay) and Bali def leads the pack in that category. But ultimately comes down to how you present yourself. I have actually never dated an Asian woman and growing up in the Georgia,and being in military, majority of my friends are white,black or Hispanic so I picked up different hobbies that makes some of the western girls find attractive. Anyways good luck hunting guys!

Which countries do you think AMWF couples would get stares?

I second dannyboy318. I'm here in Bali at the moment, and our Bali dudes are aggressive with the approaches. This is such a contrast to what I saw in Chiang Mai where Thai guys are absolutely too shy to approach. I see quite a few of Bali guys with attractive to very attractive western Euro girls (it's mostly Swedes and Scandis here). I makes me happy to see these guys going for it.

For Tall_asian_guy, the country where I got the most stares walking with a white girl was definitely mainland China. I was in Shenzhen and I was walking with a tall attractive Albanian girl and the stares I got from Chinese people were just crazy. I felt like a rockstar. I also got stares when I was in Thailand too. Basically, all the Asian countries I been to were the places where I got the most stares being AMWF.
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(03-14-2019 07:41 AM)ZAMSKI Wrote:  
(03-12-2019 05:20 PM)Tall_asian_guy Wrote:  
(01-03-2019 04:33 AM)dannyboy318 Wrote:  As an American Asian dude that have been traveling constantly for the last 5 years, I can say Northern and Eastern Europe is the best for Asian male. I see loads of AM dating WF all over Europe. In Asia the only country I have seen the local AM date WM would some parts of Thailand, Philippines (Boracay) and Bali def leads the pack in that category. But ultimately comes down to how you present yourself. I have actually never dated an Asian woman and growing up in the Georgia,and being in military, majority of my friends are white,black or Hispanic so I picked up different hobbies that makes some of the western girls find attractive. Anyways good luck hunting guys!

Which countries do you think AMWF couples would get stares?

For Tall_asian_guy, the country where I got the most stares walking with a white girl was definitely mainland China. I was in Shenzhen and I was walking with a tall attractive Albanian girl and the stares I got from Chinese people were just crazy. I felt like a rockstar. I also got stares when I was in Thailand too. Basically, all the Asian countries I been to were the places where I got the most stares being AMWF.

Interesting observation, actually I know AMWF is a huge deal in Asia and would obviously get stares. Just think about of how that Chinese guy with the Ukrainian wife became an overnight sensation.

How about your experiences with being with a white girl in the west? What countries got you the most stares, which they didn't care?
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(03-14-2019 07:41 AM)ZAMSKI Wrote:  I second dannyboy318. I'm here in Bali at the moment, and our Bali dudes are aggressive with the approaches. This is such a contrast to what I saw in Chiang Mai where Thai guys are absolutely too shy to approach. I see quite a few of Bali guys with attractive to very attractive western Euro girls (it's mostly Swedes and Scandis here). I makes me happy to see these guys going for it.

For Tall_asian_guy, the country where I got the most stares walking with a white girl was definitely mainland China. I was in Shenzhen and I was walking with a tall attractive Albanian girl and the stares I got from Chinese people were just crazy. I felt like a rockstar. I also got stares when I was in Thailand too. Basically, all the Asian countries I been to were the places where I got the most stares being AMWF.

In Bali, there is a group known as the Kuta Cowboys of Kuta Beach Bali.
There are a lot of articles written about them online.
Basically they are surfer dudes that teach white people and often white women how to surf, and they act as gigolos to older white women.
I think some older/milf white women act as sex tourists in Bali the same as they do in parts of Africa apparently.
But the macho surfer dude culture of Bali makes the Kuta Cowboys very proficient at dating both young and old white girls.
When I visited Bali, I did see many Kuta cowboys with white women. One tall dark guy was with an older white woman.
Another younger surfer dude had just broken up with his teenage australian girlfriend.
Its a great place where a lot of Australians and probably Swedish mingle easily with the Bali men.

I don't know why the Thai men would be more reluctant to date white women.
Maybe its a language thing or due to the unstable government and political repercussions of western influence.
There does seem to be a lot more friction from news reports of westerners ruining parts of Chiang Mai beaches.
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(03-14-2019 08:22 AM)Tall_asian_guy Wrote:  Interesting observation, actually I know AMWF is a huge deal in Asia and would obviously get stares. Just think about of how that Chinese guy with the Ukrainian wife became an overnight sensation.

How about your experiences with being with a white girl in the west? What countries got you the most stares, which they didn't care?

My sample size is too small as the dating I have been doing were in SEA and Eastern Europe. In the west, I would say America. I went on a Tinder date with a white American girl of German descent. We ate some KBBQ and I got some stares from other asian girls. lolz Whites and other ethnicities didn't really care as the area I was from is really diverse.
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