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(08-30-2013 02:47 PM)Vicious Wrote:  I don't understand this notion from his attackers that Bacon should sign with his real name.

Hardcore anti-abortion supporters such as the mouth-breathers in the article's comment section have a history of bombing and even killing people facilitating abortions. You don't reason publicly with such lunatics.

Anonymity is the great thing about the internet. You can post about controversial topics without having your personal life ruined because of it.

Bacon isn't really trolling. He's discussing a topic that's important to men. Usually this type of thing is discussed quietly between men behind the scenes however. I guess the world isn't used to hearing some real "guy talk".

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The ragers are completely right. Choice is only OK for Women and women only, because a mother deciding to kill it off is different than a father pushing to abort it. If you don't believe it, employ your Double-think!

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The dorks are pissed off at Bacon's article for the same reason that the dorks were pissed off at Christian McQueen's article on keeper qualities in women. In their worldview, opinions on family, motherhood, women, and child-bearing are EXCLUSIVELY the province of women. Men are not allowed to have opinions on these topics, in their worldview. Of course, men are required to pay for everything, but they're not permitted to express any preferences or opinions. A man's honest perspective is not allowed.
So, when the dolts and trolls read a piece where a man unabashedly expresses his opinions as a man, they can't handle it.

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I would like 2Wycked to answer this, perhaps it is a symptom of narcissism.

I've always thought that feminism is about women having a monopoly on judgement.

It goes along with the popular opinion of 'never hit a women' in western societies.

It implicitly says that there are times that it is ok to hit a man for the same thing you wouldn't hit a woman for, and vice versa. Also it is OK for women to hit men.

To me that says women will never conduct themselves poorly, and anytime a woman hits a man, he must have conducted himself poorly, and she judged him to do so.

Here from the thread, it blew up from 50 to 800 comments in between me reading it, what the view is here is similar.

A man making a judgement to abort is always abhorrent.

A woman making this judgement, well it is still an abhorrent act, but she has obviously taken into account the reasonable exceptions, for no other reason she is a woman. Also, a man is incapable of realising those exceptions.

To me it is they recognise that abortion is abhorrent, but giving women a free exclusion.
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Wow, Brochoice and RoK have gotten play on National Review and Red State, two of the biggest conservative sites out there. The hatred is unanimous and epic. Which is odd to me as I always thought the PUA community was very conservative, but I see its really its own unique ideological grouping. Hmm. But what's really interesting, doing a Google News and blog search and hitting up Twitter, is that feminists are very silent on this matter. Jez, Xo, Feminsting are all silent. Does this hit too close to their own pro-choice beliefs?

BTW, I wonder what kind of boost RoK is getting. The attention has to be great for traffic.
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No offense to anyone but this isn't even close to my radar. People who read these things have nothing better to do with their time. I only ever encounter RoK, and that's just because I'm on RVF.

I think nobody has a right to assail someone for having an opinion, ESPECIALLY if they find it offensive. Those are the most important opinions to allow.

I personally have never forced myself to sit down and think about what I would do in a situation like that. I do know, however, that feminists on the internet are not reasonable enough for a debate, and definitely not worthy of my time.
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(08-30-2013 07:19 PM)Sumanguru Wrote:  Wow, Brochoice and RoK have gotten play on National Review and Red State, two of the biggest conservative sites out there. The hatred is unanimous and epic. Which is odd to me as I always thought the PUA community was very conservative, but I see its really its own unique ideological grouping. Hmm. But what's really interesting, doing a Google News and blog search and hitting up Twitter, is that feminists are very silent on this matter. Jez, Xo, Feminsting are all silent. Does this hit too close to their own pro-choice beliefs?

BTW, I wonder what kind of boost RoK is getting. The attention has to be great for traffic.

The manosphere is somewhat libertarian, but that doesn't mean it is "conservative" in a mainstream sense. The social conservatives (aka Christian conservatives) and feminists hate us equally for different reasons.
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Is this what keeps sinking the server now? Too much traffic from the article?
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Thought this thread was going to be about a brand of bacon that failed to live up to tasty breakfast expectations.

"Some people don't think it be like it is but it do".
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(08-30-2013 10:22 PM)kbell Wrote:  Is this what keeps sinking the server now? Too much traffic from the article?

No. They are on different servers.

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+10 Kingsley.

That was an awesome comment!
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I love this #BroChoice meme. Banana

I hope it catches on. I suspect a follow-up article to bacon's epic post is needed.



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(08-30-2013 07:52 PM)polymath Wrote:  No offense to anyone but this isn't even close to my radar. People who read these things have nothing better to do with their time. I only ever encounter RoK, and that's just because I'm on RVF.

I think nobody has a right to assail someone for having an opinion, ESPECIALLY if they find it offensive. Those are the most important opinions to allow.

I was just having a conversation with my buddy tonight about the shit that pisses me off. He didn't bullshit me: He flat out told me that I can't change someone else's opinion, I need to stop getting pissed off that people on the Internet have different opinions than I do about things.

I'm allowed to think the opinions are idiotic, but once I let people with stupid opinions get under my skin, I'm wasting my time.

Opinions, mind you, are not facts, but I can't show facts to an idiot who can't see them.

Case in point: Feminists and white knights (who never get laid) who think a man can get a piece of ass just by "being himself". Errrrr, no. But there is no way in hell I'm going to be able to give a white knight mangina the red pill. He wants to stay in his ignorance and beat off for the rest of his life.
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(08-30-2013 07:19 PM)Sumanguru Wrote:  Wow, Brochoice and RoK have gotten play on National Review and Red State, two of the biggest conservative sites out there. The hatred is unanimous and epic. Which is odd to me as I always thought the PUA community was very conservative, but I see its really its own unique ideological grouping.

It's important to realize that abortion is a huge issue for a faction Christian conservatives (and not just the clinic-bombing types), to the point of being the ONLY relevant morality litmus test for political candidates. They basically consider abortion to be homicide, and when you look at the numbers, more human fetuses are killed by abortion each year than adults die of heart disease.

Furthermore, most believe (and often quite strongly) that an abortion also causes (potentially severe) psychological damage to any woman who has one. So to advocate manipulating a woman into an abortion just shocks them to the core.

Also, it's worth noting that a propensity for pointing out the glaring faults in modern liberal groupthink is not the same as actually being conservative. Most players really do not hold traditional family values, however much they might enjoy pointing out how feminism is destroying them.
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(08-31-2013 05:28 AM)placer Wrote:  He didn't bullshit me: He flat out told me that I can't change someone else's opinion, I need to stop getting pissed off that people on the Internet have different opinions than I do about things.

You can change someone's opinion if they're intelligent enough to be capable of listening to reason and following logic. Unfortunately, most of them aren't. Feminism is simply a faith-based religion to me, based upon feeling something is true rather than scientific method producing observable facts.

I'm in the early dating stages with an educated young woman 15 years younger than me. Yeah, she's a divorced single mother but I'm only looking short term friend-with-benefits, but I'm starting to realise the bang isn't worth the effort. She's trying to peacock by saying she's done 'some psychology'. She kept challenging me via text, and this one really pissed me off, so I dropped my usual performance of 100 IQ, and let rip.

HER:
"I believe your comment is a generalisation. I do not like to box people in categories. It falls too closely to links of racism for me. Generalisations are what can lead to bigotry and prejudice. Everyone's an individual and needs to be treated as such. Too easy to pre-judge people based on generalisations. We're all equal."

[She sounds like fucking Brainy Smurf lecturing someone on the evils of Not Recycling].

ME: "You engage in prejudicial selection every time you choose a sexual partner."

HER: "That's different."

ME: "Why?"

HER: "It just is!" [<- translation, 'because i FEEL it is']

ME: "If everyone is equal, then why have you spent 4 years of your life getting a university degree to prove to others you have a superior intelligence?"

HER: "THAT'S NOT THE SAME THING!" [It is]

ME: "Doesn't your degree mean you expect higher pay for the work you do?"

HER: "That's definitely different. I've earnt it."

ME: "So effort negates equality?"

HER: "Is this even you? Look, all people are created equal, otherwise you're racist."

ME: "Next time we go away for a few days, I'm bringing your daughter a babysitter from [local special school]. All people are equal, so he'd be qualified to look after her."

HER: "Now you're just being stupid. Obviously not everyone is equal then."

ME: "So All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others?"

[she doesn't get the reference.]

"You can't understand because you haven't studied psychology like I have." [<- yet she avoids arguing the issue]

"I've read enough psychology to understand it."

"You can't say that. You're not a qualified psychologist!"

"I don't need an authority figure telling me when i've understood something. The need for qualification as validation of thought is a crutch for lesser intellects. You're saying you value qualified thought over unqualified thought. Therefore, you believe in in inequality."

"Look, I need to get some work done. I haven't done a scrap of work int the last 15 minutes or so."

"That's a transparent defense mechanism, now that your ego has been challenged. I won't accept that. You can go when you say it: You believe in inequality."

"Only if you look at it that way! [<ie logically] You're being a jerk! I'm going!"
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(08-31-2013 04:43 PM)AnonymousBosch Wrote:  
(08-31-2013 05:28 AM)placer Wrote:  He didn't bullshit me: He flat out told me that I can't change someone else's opinion, I need to stop getting pissed off that people on the Internet have different opinions than I do about things.

You can change someone's opinion if they're intelligent enough to be capable of listening to reason and following logic.

You're right. The people that were pissing me off were "true believers" on the Internet. The kind of people who believe something really bonehead stupid like "the moon landing was faked" or "only 2% of rape accusations are false".
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I'm having immense fun arguing.

Two of my comments spawned in 42 comments calling me a monster, a murderer, selfish, etc for my views.

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Follow up article ideas:

How to sexually assault women in church.

How to fuck your pastors daughter.

How to murder your girlfriends baby, legally.

How to have sex with thy neighbors wife, unprotected.
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(09-01-2013 03:30 AM)RioNomad Wrote:  Follow up article ideas:

How to sexually assault women in church.

How to fuck your pastors daughter.

How to murder your girlfriends baby, legally.

How to have sex with thy neighbors wife, unprotected.

I would pay good money for tickets to that shitstorm.

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This post also made Bristol Palin's blog on the Patheos "Christian faith" Web site. Her headline was "Gross!" and she quoted the National Review article by Caitlin Moran.

Bristol's big complain was: "I’m sure you won’t hear any feminists calling these jerks out on this." Meaning, because ROK was pro-abortion, feminists would agree with it. While that's not true, it does bring up an important point as to why conservatives don't get the whole PUA/MRA/Red Pill crowd and no one here can really consider them allies (except on some economic issues).

Conservatives can't see that what's going on is a response to feminism, not a "problem" that came about out of the blue. Bristol Palin clearly can't see it in her blog post our she would have said "Look what feminism and Roe V. Wade has wrought! This is what you get when you give women 100 percent reproductive control and men none."

The problem with conservatives is they view things from a black/white good/evil perspective and therefore have no intellectual means to suss out nuance and examine WHY things are the way they are. To them, you're either on their "team" or the enemy. It's as if they just know "God" and "The Devil" and nothing in between. Plus, their focus on the bible leads them into believing unrealistic things about women's behavior. Occasionally someone like Dennis Prager (a talk show host) will have some smart ideas, but he's relegated to the sidelines and on stations no one listens to.

Liberals, on the other hand, are often pretty smart, yet completely misguided, usually because deep personality flaws color their intellectual focus. Hence, anyone posting here would probably not slot easily into the left or right side of the political spectrum.

All that said, I still think Bristol is sexy as hell and would put up with her misguided shit if those legs were wrapped around my waist.
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@DoBA:

You are correct about assestments of mainstream political discourse.

Look at the comments. A feminist states feminists are against all forms of reproductive coercion. Funny, for a supposed Christian website they forget the the phrase: "By the fruits ye shall know them." Look at what feminists do - they have zero credibility on anything.

I have seen so many conservatives take to misogyny rhetoric to uphold their false views of women.

As for liberal intelligence, they use to justify the status-quo. It is sad to see smart people waste their whole life on on narcissistic defenses. I know a very smart black man who only cares about proving everybody hates him because he is black - Afro-American studies PhD.

Look at the comments wanting to pretend it is satire. Show how monochromatic American psychology is - could hear the same bullshit on a liberal website.

How dare anybody not see the world just like me! Must be satire!

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Just saw your post, T & A Man.

When considering your post, I had a few stray thoughts.

I will respond at full as soon as I gather my thoughts.

(08-30-2013 06:51 PM)T and A Man Wrote:  I would like 2Wycked to answer this, perhaps it is a symptom of narcissism.

I've always thought that feminism is about women having a monopoly on judgement.

It goes along with the popular opinion of 'never hit a women' in western societies.

It implicitly says that there are times that it is ok to hit a man for the same thing you wouldn't hit a woman for, and vice versa. Also it is OK for women to hit men.

To me that says women will never conduct themselves poorly, and anytime a woman hits a man, he must have conducted himself poorly, and she judged him to do so.

Here from the thread, it blew up from 50 to 800 comments in between me reading it, what the view is here is similar.

A man making a judgement to abort is always abhorrent.

A woman making this judgement, well it is still an abhorrent act, but she has obviously taken into account the reasonable exceptions, for no other reason she is a woman. Also, a man is incapable of realising those exceptions.

To me it is they recognise that abortion is abhorrent, but giving women a free exclusion.

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Bristol Palin, WYB?

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(08-31-2013 04:43 PM)AnonymousBosch Wrote:  She kept challenging me via text, and this one really pissed me off, so I dropped my usual performance of 100 IQ, and let rip.

Thats pretty funny, although this is the reason I dont date "educated women" I don't have time to discuss shit like that. The ionly time Ive been with educated women is when they wanted some dick, and I was the nearest one available.

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