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I'm still up for table service haha, man American girls love that

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Slubu (Lawdogger on ROK) wrote an article on Vegas being the easiest city in the world to get laid; I concur and multiple players on this board agree.

I'm down to help you out OP, but tell me more about your game in Vegas, what's your experience level like, etc.
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To think that it takes $500+ a night in alcohol in order to get laid by a "beautiful baby" in Vegas isn't really reality. Lots of rich guys with no game do this and they get nothing. Lots of guys get suckered on tables, the bottle rats drink and leave. Face it, you're not going to be able to outspend everyone in the club, so if you get a table you go there and only use it as a base and don't let girls drink your shit. Too often I see a large group of herbs go there, buy a table, get suited up, and they're just chillin with their boys the entire night or maybe by some miracle they can attract a wildabeast to drink their free vodka. I mean ideally you can buy 10 bottles per night and have models drink them all and bang them, but that's usually not going to happen to the average person. I see too many people use it as a crutch to replace actual game/approaching.

I've done big baller weekends and those weekends are obviously more fun, but my wallet was hurting. Like I said, I go alot and for me to be able to go alot I have to be able to hack it so I spend as little as possible the whole way around. For me, its just an extension or replacement for LA's semi-lame nightlife, so I go there, don't get all in this "WOO HOO VEGAS" mindset. I see it as a regular night on the town that is part of my lifestyle. I'm not anti-Tables or anything, I love doing it right with the right crew, the right location in the club, etc. Its all logistics. Where you're staying, who you're with and how cool you are.

And you don't even need a crew, I've done great just with one other wing who didn't drink at all for a whole weekend without any tables nor buying girls any drinks or any of this stuff.

I also disagree that "what happens in vegas stays in vegas" is a myth. Girls get dirty and scandalous there. Married girls, innocent girls, all girls. Its no illusion or marketing scheme. There are tons of sluts in Vegas. Maybe you can't get a 10 without getting the big baller table, but you can certainly bang some recently graduated sorority girls from the midwest in vegas.

Yeah, also, you can't stay off the strip. Horrible, you need to be walking distance to the clubs you're going to be at, no exception.
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BTW, "The Act" closed last night all of the sudden. Not surprising but it was a fun spot.
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I never said it takes $500 a night to get laid in Vegas; however if a cat is staying OFF the strip and microwaving meals, then most definitely, unless his game is excellent will have difficulties.

$500 a night is nothing when you factor in cabs, drinks, etc. Worrying about every dime you spend at the club puts you in a bad mood and sends off a vibe to girls that they can smell a mile away. I know; because I used to be that guy.

Don't eat steak dinners on a bologna income.

Going to vegas, staying off the strip, and eating microwave meals and expecting to pull dimes is like me taking my car to the racetrack a couple times and then expecting to win the Indy 500.

Not happening.
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(10-14-2013 06:37 PM)McQueensPlayboyRules Wrote:  Slubu (Lawdogger on ROK) wrote an article on Vegas being the easiest city in the world to get laid; I concur and multiple players on this board agree.

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Perhaps in summer it's decent. If we're talking about the city I've seen, I guarantee you this isn't the easiest place to get laid in the world, and I don't see anybody else saying that.

With the kind of money you're suggesting spending in vegas, I could bang a pornstar, or two. I mean, if you're getting a table, are suited up, are staying in the best hotel, then what is really attracting the girl to you? Sure, you still have to approach, but it becomes much less of "you" she is attracted to, and more based on the things around you, your money, etc. I'm not necessarily knocking it,


Quote:I'm down to help you out OP, but tell me more about your game in Vegas, what's your experience level like, etc.

I'm rolling out with a wing, in a pretty normal button up shirt, blue jeans, dress shoes. I'm not getting a table or bottle service. My game level is moderate. Most of my bangs have been outside of the US, where my exoticism gets me attention. I'm somewhat lower energy, post up at the bar, type guy.

Frankly, I'm not expecting much more out of vegas. To each his own, I suppose.
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Shudda hit chandelier bar in Cosmo, fireflys off the strip, mcfaddens for some college ass (thursday are popping, but its been a while since I last went), maybe do town square in Vegas. Kabuki has some stunners that roll in for the 9-10 reverse happy hour.

Vegas is hyped up, but its still do-able. You just need knowledge and stamina. I was doing vegas for 100 buxs/day excluding flights+hotel. But i pre-drink and didn't eat fancy dinners.

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I think how much you are willing to spend and how much you're not willing to spend can affect your results to an extent. At the end of the day, it all boils down to how much you are enjoying your surroundings, which will affect how much positivity you will exude not to mention the importance of finding a way to make "the moment" more fun for yourself as well. From the sounds of it, that clientele you were around is kind of a turn off for me haha.

I personally appreciate the field work because I'm probably going to avoid the high end clubs off the strip due mainly to time constraints (here working a convention with even longer hours my last day being Friday) and the fact that I have "been there done that" albeit last time was in 2010. That leaves about late Friday night around 11PM/Midnight+ for me to try something as I will probably test out local places off the strip mentioned by DVY or McQ.
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You're gonna get nowhere with daygame on the strip unless you don't have courage to open groups of girls

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Are there day game places off the strip?
10-15-2013 07:48 AM
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Dunno, I've not ventured off the strip, I don't even know what day it is man body clock is fucked. Any suggestions for a bar or a club tonight?

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I don't understand this 'off the strip' talk.

You cats are in Vegas. Tons of slutty girls in Vegas...on the strip...off the strip is 99.9% local girls who are harder to game unless you have airtight game plus logistics on lock.

Don't make it harder than it is. Walk around Planet Hollywood Mall and the one across from the Wynn. To be honest though if you're able to go out during the day and game, then you're not doing the night right. Daytime for Vegas is sleep time.

Just my humble 2 cents.
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I was going to say the same thing about "day game". There is no day game in vegas unless its a party brunch or pool party (or pool). I usually sleep in, recover a bit (or a lot), have something to eat and then go shopping for some clothes. I mean you can go to the margarita bars at the 3rd tier hotels but the quality is kind of low and your time is better served recovering.

I also try not to start my night so late. There is a definite "hot time to strike" and its not at the end of the night. Vegas is not an all night town. Granted, I am usually up all night, but there is an optimal time to try to hook up and that's somewhere between 12pm and 2am. If you're not "in" by that time, you probably won't be "in" any females unless you're good at throwing hail marys at the end of the night. Not saying its a strict rule, you can't be waiting around and assume that people are partying all night because they're not.

If there's no pool party that I'm hitting up during the day (I get really wasted at those and need to sleep until about 1/2 hour before going into a club) then I'm at a cool restaurant like Holsteins or Jaleo or something grabbing dinner or a small lounge grabbing a drink to "warm up". I'm in Vegas, I'm not eating at Dennys or Subway. Take a look at the patrons in those spots and that's basically putting you in that frame of mind.
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(10-15-2013 09:28 AM)bojangles Wrote:  Dunno, I've not ventured off the strip, I don't even know what day it is man body clock is fucked. Any suggestions for a bar or a club tonight?

Tuesday is probably the deadest night of the week. LAVO and 1Oak are open, but that doesn't say much or guarantee a crowd. I'd probably grab a drink at some random bars like Bond Bar/Chandelier at the Cosmo or the Aria bars if I were you and if that didn't pan out, hit up a strip club.

http://wantickets.com/events/default.asp...2013-10-15

edit: Maybe see if you can find conferences.

http://www.vegasmeansbusiness.com/planni...-calendar/

There's a nursing convention at the Paris hotel, they might all be going out at the bars around there or something like that.
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Any tips on how to get cheap tickets to shows? girl wants to check out zumanity and I want to check out Pen and Teller, O
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(10-15-2013 03:36 PM)chyamor Wrote:  Any tips on how to get cheap tickets to shows? girl wants to check out zumanity and I want to check out Pen and Teller, O

I hear you can get them cheap the day of by ticket brokers on the strip trying to sell out the show? There are a few booths, like in front of the Fashion Show Mall. You also might want to try groupon, travelzoo or vegas.com.
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This guy reminds me of Captain Power.

Why don't you guys who come to Vegas listen to people who have been there repeatedly and in the case of some of us (Mcqueen, fisto, myself) lived there.

There have been so many Vegas posts breaking it down.

But you guys show up and act like you're reinventing the wheel, disregarding what vets say, etc.

Then you say, "Vegas sucks!"
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Thanks Partyonbro, I'm at the Cosmo and there's a lot of girls here today so I'll hit up chandelier.

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(10-15-2013 08:46 PM)bojangles Wrote:  Thanks Partyonbro, I'm at the Cosmo and there's a lot of girls here today so I'll hit up chandelier.

If you need to separate a girl from her friends there, try:

"My friend told me something about a secret pizza stand in this hotel, can you help me find it?" (its on the 3rd floor, no sign). There are several long hallways near the convention center that you may be able to do some business (there are cameras everywhere though).
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I never said vegas sucks outright.

If you factor in price, then yeah it basically does. Saying that it's "the easiest place in the world to get laid", but then saying that you have to spend hundreds a night, suit up, potentially use social circle game/connections, and stay in only a few mega hotels next to the strip....these are contradictory statements.

I may come back here during summer next year for a weekend and see how it is, but considering all the other places on earth I could be, and given my normal budget, I may not.

I listened to what guys here posted and did that. I went to marquee, surrender, and xs. I didn't stay on the strip, but then again my car was parked in the lot right next to the club, and if I can't get a girl to come to my car, then she's probably not coming to my room. "Staying on the strip" is a meaningless term anyway.

Lets say you stay at the Cosmo, but then hit up XS. At 2am it doesn't matter if I'm staying at the motel 6 on tropicana, because it's probably only 120 seconds longer to get there than to cosmo, or to a place at MGM grand. Plus, you can technically "stay on the strip" just north of encore, and stay at a place for 30 dollars a night, but that's the ghetto part of the strip.

Apparently saying vegas is not that great is a sin around here. I appreciate all the opinions being expressed on this board, but I'm just disagreeing with the overall rep that vegas has. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe my game is just off right now. I think someone considering going to vegas will benefit by reading this thread and taking everything into account.
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(10-15-2013 10:20 PM)Tenerife Wrote:  Lets say you stay at the Cosmo, but then hit up XS. At 2am it doesn't matter if I'm staying at the motel 6 on tropicana, because it's probably only 120 seconds longer to get there than to cosmo, or to a place at MGM grand. Plus, you can technically "stay on the strip" just north of encore, and stay at a place for 30 dollars a night, but that's the ghetto part of the strip.

Where you stay is everything because of two words:

Cab line.

See, if you pulled a girl at 2 a.m., you'd know that the cab line (and traffic) can totally destroy momentum. You do not want to wait in that fucking line. You want to walk back to the room. "Hey, let's get out of here and go get a drink out of my room."

Since you're concerned about cost, you're not gonna skip the cab line to get a limo.

Sorry, bro, but you're just ignoring everything guys are telling you.

You have it in your mind that you know something about Vegas, when in fact you do not.

It's OK to be ignorant. We all start off ignorant.

But you are ignoring reality and refusing to listen.

I am only responding to you so that hopefully other guys learn from your mistakes.
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Well, I'm driving my own car, so I'm not worrying about a cab line.

At 2am, I didn't notice any traffic, but maybe that's because I'm "ignorant" as you say.

I think it's funny that saying vegas is not that great is a "big issue" here on rvf. There are plenty of guys having poor experiences here. I'm actually going out and giving my field report. If you don't like it, too bad.
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Just curious, where did you stay at off the strip?
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Building rapport with a girl in Vegas:

"my car is right over here let's go to it and drive to my hotel off the strip"

Girl: Ummm... (Hamster runs "I don't know this guy...where is he taking me???")

OR

(Grabbing her hand) "I'm at Cosmo/Encore/Wynn/Insert nice strip hotel and I have the best room service"

Girl: "Ohhh I love Cosmo etc etc hotel!"

Walk out to cab line. It's 45 min wait. Because you took my advice in my Vegas Data Sheet Tax Tips section, you palm the bellman a $10 dollar bill. He smiles broadly and the next cab is yours. Your wait time? 30 seconds. The club slut feels special cutting in front of the other schmucks who's time is not worth an extra $10. Your DHV shoots even higher. She gets wetter.

Quick cab ride later in which you're fingering her soft wet tight smooth pussy, instead of worrying about a DUI, you've arrived at your strip hotel Cosmo, Wynn, Encore etc etc and take her up to your room for dirty Vegas sex.

Game, point, match.
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Nice pizza call, I was hungry

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