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The Real Scoop on Las Vegas
I'm annoyed by pretentious stuff here about Las Vegas. So here is some practical info.

Casual topless pools are great places to meet strippers, hippies, nudists, and open-minded people.

It's 115 degrees in the summer - drink lots of water and eat light.

Gamblers drink free. At video bars, play a $20 bill through machine blackjack or video poker and you pay only the tip (even if you win).

Learn blackjack basic strategy from cards at the gift shop or internet. Play real 3:2 blackjack, not carnival games or ripoff 6:5 games in the "party pit". Get a players card and always use it at tables or machines. At least you will get on the mailing list for free/cheap rooms.

Depending on your level, you can get free rooms, meals, show tickets, airfare, and other complementaries. Make your first bets your largest, e.g., $200, as a "demonstration of high value". After the floor manager records it, reduce your bet, e.g., $50 or $25. Play slow, crowded tables and sit out hands if you get unlucky. Take bathroom breaks. They record 60 hands @ $200 average, but you really only played 30 hands @ $50 average. With a basic strategy disadvantage of .5%, you will lose only .5%*30*$50 = $7.50 on average. But their "theoretical" calculation is 2%*60*$200 = $60. When you leave, ask a host for a meal or show comp, especially if you had a big win or loss. You don't get unless you ask! The Comp FAQ is:
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.gambl...gambling.*

For deals on hotels, shows, pool parties, etc., go to the lasvegasadvisor.com Top Ten list. The best deals are downtown/off-strip. But stay on/near the strip attractions to avoid wasted time.

My Vegas stripper friends will ask you to stay for lapdances until their shift ends so they can leave with you. Ultimately they always get emergency phone calls about a sick kid. By then your credit card will be maxed out. If you avoid strippers, escorts, and thoughtless gambling, then Vegas can be a great cheap vacation.
10-18-2010 10:43 PM
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RE: The Real Scoop on Las Vegas
This is not the real scoop on Vegas coming from someone who grew up there. I'm not trying to be a dick, but some of this info is not very good....

First of all, I don't even really know of topless pools. They have them, but I don't know anyone who goes, and we all know that most people into that kind of thing are old women with saggy breasts. The pool parties in Vegas, such as Rehab, are off the hook! I'm a beach person, so those were always my favorites, over clubs or anything. MAD fly honies, and you can see what their bodies look like before you take her home.

Drink lots of water, good advice

Slot machines are a waste of time. Yeah, you'll win occassionally, but you're gonna win a lot more at the tables. But you had the right idea. Sometimes me and my boys will stop by a cheap casino with $3-5 dollar black jack and get loaded there before we go out. Honestly, we usually just drink for free, sometimes you win some, sometimes you lose some, but if you throw down $20, at least you probably got more money's worth than you would at a bar.

The black jack thing is a good call if you have the $

Come on man, Lasvegasadvisor.com? Why don't you just go buy lonely plannet? I don't recomend this at all. And I guess whatever, stay on the strip if it's more convenient, but there are mad spots outside the strip too that aren't going to be a waste of time, just like there are plenty of spots in Miami off South Beach that are probably great. If you want any advice about good spots off the strip, hit me up.

Yeah, if you go to a mid or low end club, them strippers are gonna fuck you over for sure. Talk to G about how to do strip/gentalmens clubs. I was never much into them though. It was never my steeze to spend all sorts of money on blue balls, or even if I would get laid, still not my style. I do know mad strippers though and know a decent amount about the clubs. Also, word of advice on the escort services the Mexicans are handing out cards for. Yeah, maybe they hand you a card that says an escort is $50, she is, but if you want a decent one, she's gonna want you to tip her $400. And if you tell her you don't have the money for that, she'll take the $50 you have to pay her for showing up, say she will get a girl more affordable, and that girl will never show up, you just lost $50.

One more peace of advice I would like to add: Never buy drugs off the strip unless they are actually in a casino and not on the street, and the guy looks like he has some money and isn't just trying to hustle you.
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10-19-2010 01:07 AM
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(10-19-2010 01:07 AM)Brandon E Wrote:  I don't even really know of topless pools.

LVA is local and listed eight at http://www.lasvegasadvisor.com/spotlight.cfm?id=49. Seriously, see their Top Ten Values at http://www.lasvegasadvisor.com/topten.cfm

(10-19-2010 01:07 AM)Brandon E Wrote:  Slot machines are a waste ... but if you throw down $20, at least you probably got more money's worth than you would at a bar.

Yes, but don't play slots, play video poker machines (with a strategy card). Full-pay 9-6 Jacks or Better has only a .5% disadvantage. As a local, you get inferior mail. But out-of-towners can play minimally and get room offers.[/quote]

(10-19-2010 01:07 AM)Brandon E Wrote:  Talk to G about how to ... spend all sorts of money on blue balls

Nice reference. You mean the Australian computer nerd who advertises a book on strip club seduction, blogs about the James Bond lifestyle with a guest manifesto "I only take casinos money-they never take ... my ... $3Gs"? Somebody tell him James Bond didn't frequent strip clubs, and gambled a lot more than $3,000!
10-19-2010 10:21 AM
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RE: The Real Scoop on Las Vegas
Normally I wouldn't address a fool like this, but I will.

"I'm annoyed by pretentious stuff here about Las Vegas"

Then you are annoyed about Las Vegas. Las Vegas is probably the most "pretentious" city in America.

"It's 115 degrees in the summer - drink lots of water and eat light."

Right here you can tell this guy has no idea what he is talking about. Las Vegas in summer is hell on earth. Good move there, squeaky.

"Learn blackjack basic strategy from cards at the gift shop or internet."

Great low profile tip. This is some strong stuff.

"For deals on hotels, shows, pool parties, etc., go to the lasvegasadvisor.com Top Ten list. The best deals are downtown/off-strip. But stay on/near the strip attractions to avoid wasted time."

I understand you are on a budget. Maybe you should take a trip to Zanesville, OH instead.

"My Vegas stripper friends will ask you to stay for lapdances until their shift ends so they can leave with you. Ultimately they always get emergency phone calls about a sick kid."

Says the guy with no Gentleman's Club Game.

"By then your credit card will be maxed out."

Re-read The G Manifesto. Always use CASH, sneezy.

"If you avoid strippers, escorts, and thoughtless gambling, then Vegas can be a great cheap vacation."

Also it will be cheap if you don't drink, don't eat at nice restaurants and don't tip. Great advice.

"You mean the Australian computer nerd"

Where do people get this stuff? I have been to Australia once in my life.

""I only take casinos money-they never take ... my ... $3Gs"? Somebody tell him James Bond didn't frequent strip clubs, and gambled a lot more than $3,000!"

Not sure where you are pulling this stuff from. And just so you know, James Bond was a fictional character.

Now, bring some real Data next time you post. Don't make me smack you around again.

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You have officially been roasted!!
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(10-19-2010 02:51 PM)MiXX Wrote:  You have officially been roasted!!

Damn G you didnt hold back with that one...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ePQKD9iBfU - Ether/Nas

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAnGnevKxJE - Takeover/Jay-Z

Pick your poison...Sheesh!
10-19-2010 03:22 PM
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RE: The Real Scoop on Las Vegas
(10-19-2010 01:59 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  "Learn blackjack basic strategy from cards at the gift shop or internet."

Great low profile tip. This is some strong stuff.

In case you are trying to be sarcastic, playing correctly is indeed strong and low profile.

Quote:I understand you are on a budget. Maybe you should take a trip to Zanesville, OH instead.

I hope you aren't criticizing forum participants on budgets - they will find my information valuable. U.S. and international casinos comp me and back-off my play. You must not be a high roller since you never even mentioned comps.

Quote:"I only take casinos money-they never take ... my ... $3Gs"

Not sure where you are pulling this stuff from.

It's from your self-described "International Playboy" blog, http://www.thegmanifesto.com/category/guest-manifesto, along with links to the James Bond lifestyle and strip club reports.

It is interesting that Roosh picks up girls in jeans and t-shirts, but you need custom suits. They don't even wear suits on Wall Street anymore! In Vegas, the only people in suits are casino and restaurant staff. I guess it's strong if your girl wants to date a waiter.
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(10-19-2010 03:32 PM)kimleebj Wrote:  In Vegas, the only people in suits are casino and restaurant staff. I guess it's strong if your girl wants to date a waiter.

Wow, did you really say that? How many times have you been to Vegas? Once for 2 days? And did you even venture off the strip, because Las Vegas is much bigger than just the strip. I'm pretty sure you are basically saying people on their vegas vacations aren't wearing suites, and even then, that's not true. I see mad people all over with suites on in Veags.
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(10-19-2010 05:23 PM)Brandon E Wrote:  How many times have you been to Vegas?

I had a house there and have gotten comped rooms at dozens of casinos. As you know, locals avoid the terrible strip traffic. So you may be less familiar with tourist issues like topless pools, gambling, comped rooms/airfare, and out-of-state promotional mail. But you would kick my ass at finding the best grocery stores and dry cleaners. Your perspective is still valid, your comment about pools reflects your demographic, and your warning about drugs is excellent. FWIW, a good Vegas friend got drugged and robbed by a prostitute who pretended to be a hapless tourist.

Stereotypically, people who wear suits at work don't wear them for leisure. While a few Vegas tourists may wear suits, they overwhelmingly dress casually, perhaps with a sports jacket. Suitcase space is precious, and Vegas is the land of the belly pouch. Seriously, how many times have you worn a suit out to clubs this year? I'm reminded of a recent Jersey Shore episode where Snooki incredulously asked an overdressed guy why he wore a suit in a dance club. G-man recommends going to strip clubs at 3:00 a.m. and smoking. By the time G-man wakes up, Roosh will already have picked up girls at the pool. In the evening G-man will be pale, tired, and overdressed, while Roosh will be tanned, rested, and rockin' by midnight.
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its all depend on where you go and the demographs ur trying to swoop.

i personally wouldnt wear a suit to most of the places i go to and for the girls i swoop.

if i was going to an upscale lounge or club where most the females were 30 and older than a suit would be the preferred outfit imo
10-19-2010 07:45 PM
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(10-19-2010 01:59 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  Maybe you should take a trip to Zanesville, OH ...

You plagiarized that remark from an anonymous comment on your blog. Weak!
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Quote:Now, bring some real Data next time you post.

Only computer nerds call information "data". Now crawl back into your cubicle so you can keep your miserable job and afford escorts.
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I am deleting this post since it's clear to me that kimleebj knows much more than his original post implied; thus my post was unnecessary.
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(10-20-2010 01:24 PM)Chaz Wrote:  get the BJ books by Wong and Snyder

That's good advice Chaz! While it won't make you a pro gambler, Comp City shows how to get maximum comps at minimum cost.

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Yes! I have Rubin's Comp City, too, and I think it's the only book of its kind (i.e., comp hustling).
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Just to let you know what's possible these days, here is an article on Mr. G (as in Grosjean).

http://www.cigaraficionado.com/webfeatur...r_9203/p/1
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The vegas club scene reminds me of some of the clubs in Cuba and the DR, not in ambiance, but in how many prostitutes work in there. As well in Vegas, most of the hot girls were in the private booths, so its sorta slim pickings unless you have cash... on top of that, weeding out the pros from the normal girls is a toughie too!!!

What I do, is ask the girl where she is from, and how long is she staying.... if she's a local its a red flag etc... just from my experience. If a girl is aggressive just like you are to women, then odds are she's a pro.... Day game is not too bad,, the malls in caesars and fashion show mall , plus casino pool can be good grounds too.
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(10-21-2010 07:27 PM)tomtud Wrote:  The vegas club scene reminds me of some of the clubs in Cuba and the DR, not in ambiance, but in how many prostitutes work in there. As well in Vegas, most of the hot girls were in the private booths, so its sorta slim pickings unless you have cash... on top of that, weeding out the pros from the normal girls is a toughie too!!!

What I do, is ask the girl where she is from, and how long is she staying.... if she's a local its a red flag etc... just from my experience. If a girl is aggressive just like you are to women, then odds are she's a pro.... Day game is not too bad,, the malls in caesars and fashion show mall , plus casino pool can be good grounds too.

I've never met a prostitute in a Vegas club.
10-21-2010 07:30 PM
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(10-21-2010 07:30 PM)Brandon E Wrote:  
(10-21-2010 07:27 PM)tomtud Wrote:  The vegas club scene reminds me of some of the clubs in Cuba and the DR, not in ambiance, but in how many prostitutes work in there. As well in Vegas, most of the hot girls were in the private booths, so its sorta slim pickings unless you have cash... on top of that, weeding out the pros from the normal girls is a toughie too!!!

What I do, is ask the girl where she is from, and how long is she staying.... if she's a local its a red flag etc... just from my experience. If a girl is aggressive just like you are to women, then odds are she's a pro.... Day game is not too bad,, the malls in caesars and fashion show mall , plus casino pool can be good grounds too.

I've never met a prostitute in a Vegas club.

Me neither, and I've been to almost every club on the strip. Never met one.

Only prostitute I ever met on the strip was at the bar in the Stratosphere at 4am (Don't ask why I was there). She was fucking disgusting too and VERY obvious.
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(10-21-2010 07:30 PM)Brandon E Wrote:  I've never met a prostitute in a Vegas club.
(10-22-2010 12:17 AM)Entropy4 Wrote:  Me neither, and I've been to almost every club on the strip.

Interesting contrast with other reports. Perhaps you guys frequent clubs outside "business hours". Or maybe you talk with groups of girls and not solitary ones.

I was playing blackjack with my friend Fezzik once and a women sat down to converse. Eventually she hinted that his bets could obtain superior entertainment in the room. When Fezzik declined, she indignantly exclaimed "I didn't think you were that cheap!". He disappointingly replied "I didn't think you were either."

I wonder whether the private message/e-mail feature of the forum works (Brandon/Chaz).
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kimleebj,

I got your PM and will send you one. You are friends with Fezzik? For real? I thought you were just impersonating the Kim Lee on Wong's Green Chip. Now I am confused. Now I am wondering what you are doing on Roosh's site! If you are the same Kim Lee who has consulted with Don Schlesinger (on Blackjack Attack, 3rd ed.), and posted on G.C., then you should be dropping some real knowledge. We could start with Fezzik and sports betting! Then poker, etc., etc.
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(10-23-2010 10:01 AM)kimleebj Wrote:  
(10-21-2010 07:30 PM)Brandon E Wrote:  I've never met a prostitute in a Vegas club.
(10-22-2010 12:17 AM)Entropy4 Wrote:  Me neither, and I've been to almost every club on the strip.

Interesting contrast with other reports. Perhaps you guys frequent clubs outside "business hours". Or maybe you talk with groups of girls and not solitary ones.

I was playing blackjack with my friend Fezzik once and a women sat down to converse. Eventually she hinted that his bets could obtain superior entertainment in the room. When Fezzik declined, she indignantly exclaimed "I didn't think you were that cheap!". He disappointingly replied "I didn't think you were either."

I wonder whether the private message/e-mail feature of the forum works (Brandon/Chaz).

I mean, I've been to the clubs at all hours. It's crazy, I haven't really met hardly any prostitutes in Vegas and I've probably been on the strip over 500 times. Only one girl I've ever approached on the strip turned out to be a hooker.
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(10-23-2010 10:01 AM)kimleebj Wrote:  
(10-21-2010 07:30 PM)Brandon E Wrote:  I've never met a prostitute in a Vegas club.
(10-22-2010 12:17 AM)Entropy4 Wrote:  Me neither, and I've been to almost every club on the strip.

Interesting contrast with other reports. Perhaps you guys frequent clubs outside "business hours". Or maybe you talk with groups of girls and not solitary ones.

I was playing blackjack with my friend Fezzik once and a women sat down to converse. Eventually she hinted that his bets could obtain superior entertainment in the room. When Fezzik declined, she indignantly exclaimed "I didn't think you were that cheap!". He disappointingly replied "I didn't think you were either."

I wonder whether the private message/e-mail feature of the forum works (Brandon/Chaz).

It's because you were playing blackjack. You weren't in a club. The hookers hang around the sketchy casinos. If you're going to Pure or XS or Tryst or whatever, you never run into them... ever.

Like I said, the only time I've met one was sitting by myself at the circle bar in the Stratosphere casino at like 4AM. And I've probably gone out clubbing 20-30 times in the last two years in Vegas.
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(10-24-2010 04:31 AM)Entropy4 Wrote:  
(10-23-2010 10:01 AM)kimleebj Wrote:  
(10-21-2010 07:30 PM)Brandon E Wrote:  I've never met a prostitute in a Vegas club.
(10-22-2010 12:17 AM)Entropy4 Wrote:  Me neither, and I've been to almost every club on the strip.

Interesting contrast with other reports. Perhaps you guys frequent clubs outside "business hours". Or maybe you talk with groups of girls and not solitary ones.

I was playing blackjack with my friend Fezzik once and a women sat down to converse. Eventually she hinted that his bets could obtain superior entertainment in the room. When Fezzik declined, she indignantly exclaimed "I didn't think you were that cheap!". He disappointingly replied "I didn't think you were either."

I wonder whether the private message/e-mail feature of the forum works (Brandon/Chaz).

It's because you were playing blackjack. You weren't in a club. The hookers hang around the sketchy casinos. If you're going to Pure or XS or Tryst or whatever, you never run into them... ever.

Like I said, the only time I've met one was sitting by myself at the circle bar in the Stratosphere casino at like 4AM. And I've probably gone out clubbing 20-30 times in the last two years in Vegas.

I was actually at LAX the club in luxor and my friends and I have run into a few. I saw a few at the casino where Drai's is as well.
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RE: The Real Scoop on Las Vegas
(10-25-2010 04:57 PM)tomtud Wrote:  
(10-24-2010 04:31 AM)Entropy4 Wrote:  
(10-23-2010 10:01 AM)kimleebj Wrote:  
(10-21-2010 07:30 PM)Brandon E Wrote:  I've never met a prostitute in a Vegas club.
(10-22-2010 12:17 AM)Entropy4 Wrote:  Me neither, and I've been to almost every club on the strip.

Interesting contrast with other reports. Perhaps you guys frequent clubs outside "business hours". Or maybe you talk with groups of girls and not solitary ones.

I was playing blackjack with my friend Fezzik once and a women sat down to converse. Eventually she hinted that his bets could obtain superior entertainment in the room. When Fezzik declined, she indignantly exclaimed "I didn't think you were that cheap!". He disappointingly replied "I didn't think you were either."

I wonder whether the private message/e-mail feature of the forum works (Brandon/Chaz).

It's because you were playing blackjack. You weren't in a club. The hookers hang around the sketchy casinos. If you're going to Pure or XS or Tryst or whatever, you never run into them... ever.

Like I said, the only time I've met one was sitting by myself at the circle bar in the Stratosphere casino at like 4AM. And I've probably gone out clubbing 20-30 times in the last two years in Vegas.

I was actually at LAX the club in luxor and my friends and I have run into a few. I saw a few at the casino where Drai's is as well.

Then it seems you attract them like moths to a flame. Wink

Seriously, I never run into them, neither do my friends who live there. But I'm sure there are some around.
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(10-19-2010 03:32 PM)kimleebj Wrote:  You must not be a high roller since you never even mentioned comps.
Yeah, only "high rollers" know what comps are. I'm a 21 year old student from Saskatchewan, and I go to LAS with a good friend of mine every few months. My friend is also a student, but he has also spent years getting on that blackjack tip, if you know what I mean. The dude gets comps all over town at the B, Caesar's, MGM, Luxor, etc. That's why I fly with him. One day we're back at home sitting in class being students on a tight budget (at least I am, he's got bank), the next we're getting comped surf and turf with dom at the Lux and I'm getting paid by the hour to bet $400 a hand with someone else's money. Who doesn't know what comps are? Take a hike.

(10-19-2010 03:32 PM)kimleebj Wrote:  It is interesting that Roosh picks up girls in jeans and t-shirts, but you need custom suits. They don't even wear suits on Wall Street anymore! In Vegas, the only people in suits are casino and restaurant staff. I guess it's strong if your girl wants to date a waiter.
I have no words for this. Did you think this through before you typed it, or did you just shit onto your keyboard? I have honestly been rendered speechless. Congratulations.

(10-20-2010 12:16 PM)kimleebj Wrote:  You plagiarized that remark from an anonymous comment on your blog.
If that's plagiarism, I better stop mentioning locations by name in conversation. Thanks for the tip, man.
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