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RE: Extreme road rage in NYC
I hope a few of those bikers become paraplegics. Had I been in that SUV and with a loaded gun I would have fired on the guy opening the door. Or at least shot a bullet upwards while the misses was calling 911.


When he was trying to speed away, he should have slammed on his brakes and checked the guys behind him.

Bunch of idiots and they all deserved what they got.
10-01-2013 11:30 AM
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^ That movie changed my life at a very young age. Needless to say anyone who fucks with me on the road has gotten it real good, I probably would have killed most of those bikers even though I was one myself. With my kid in the car though everything is X1000
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the stupidest thing the RR guy did was pull off into Washington Heights.
10-01-2013 11:39 AM
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Would it feel great to pull out a P229 and get a few shots off? Yes, but it's not worth it IMO. Always better to de-escalate if possible.

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(10-01-2013 11:41 AM)RexImperator Wrote:  Would it feel great to pull out a P229 and get a few shots off? Yes, but it's not worth it IMO. Always better to de-escalate if possible.

Agree, but it's obvious some people wake up some days hell bent on starting shit. I think the RR driver would have loved to de-escalate given the opportunity.

When some random motherfucker is hell bent on starting shit, you have to be willing to get ugly.

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(10-01-2013 11:41 AM)RexImperator Wrote:  Would it feel great to pull out a P229 and get a few shots off? Yes, but it's not worth it IMO. Always better to de-escalate if possible.

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(10-01-2013 11:43 AM)thedude3737 Wrote:  
(10-01-2013 11:41 AM)RexImperator Wrote:  Would it feel great to pull out a P229 and get a few shots off? Yes, but it's not worth it IMO. Always better to de-escalate if possible.

Agree, but it's obvious some people wake up some days hell bent on starting shit. I think the RR driver would have loved to de-escalate given the opportunity.

When some random motherfucker is hell bent on starting shit, you have to be willing to get ugly.

He wanted ugly, he got ugly.

And now, their pussy ass biker gang probably won't be allowed to go around NYC.

Good.

UPDATE: NO SURPRISE: No surp The biker was from Passaic NJ.

Now it all makes sense..
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The RR was chill and handled it calmly.

If it would have been my ass I would have intentionally started running those mofo bitches into the medians etc. it's a fucking RR; then can handle some heat.

The hysterical part was the stupid fuck trying to break the RR window with his helmet and it wouldn't. : )

I've ridden; a lot of my friends have ridden/ride and they definitely instigated that shit.
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That shit don't fly here in the South. Someone opens your door you shoot, no questions asked. I rode for years and just saw a 6:27 second legal clusterfuck. That video will be their downfall (bikers).


I wouldn't stop either with family in the car and 40 bikes chasing me. Awesome video though. Let me know how those gun laws are helping you out in NYC.

In California I don't think anything bigger than a Vespa is allowed on the streets.
10-01-2013 01:11 PM
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(10-01-2013 12:38 PM)soup Wrote:  UPDATE: NO SURPRISE: No surp The biker was from Passaic NJ.

Now it all makes sense..

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I'm curious when 911 was called as well. Didn't the guy driving ask his wife to call 911 while he was trying to get away?

If he did that's a really pathetic response time from the police. It also looks like massive segments of that video were cut out.
10-01-2013 01:31 PM
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These are the same guys who back down from a 1v1 fight. What this video teaches us is to be armed or at the very least, call the cops whilst running these fairies off the road.

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10-01-2013 03:23 PM
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(10-01-2013 01:11 PM)Aliblahba Wrote:  That shit don't fly here in the South. Someone opens your door you shoot, no questions asked. I rode for years and just saw a 6:27 second legal clusterfuck. That video will be their downfall (bikers).


I wouldn't stop either with family in the car and 40 bikes chasing me. Awesome video though. Let me know how those gun laws are helping you out in NYC.

In California I don't think anything bigger than a Vespa is allowed on the streets.

That's what I've been telling people all day. If this were in Florida or Texas those bikers would have been greeted with a shotgun. I don't think a single person sided with the bikers.

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I was hoping he could lay out a few more of them. I guess when your family is in the car, you can't go balls-to-wall.
But he's seriously an idiot for getting off the highway, and then not slamming it in reverse once he was cornered.
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Just to add to the stupidity of the bikers, why the fuck would you want that video floating around? "Oh look, I have video of me and gang picking on a guy and his family. Oh and my buddy brake checked him and he got hit - but that is the driver's fault."

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What happened above would've still happened in the south. Not everyone is packing.

The above and the video reminds me that I need to buy a gun.

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There is a big difference between Harley riders and wanna be tough crotch rocket riders. The latter never would fuck with me or my crew. All talk.
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Whats interesting is that once you get a couple of guys together group think takes over and every logic goes out the window. Anyone whos ever been a big group fight knows those bikers would have probably beaten that guy to death and laughed about it while doing so.
And for the guys siding with the bikers how stupid can you get, making a biased opinion saying he should be charged with murder attempt and such, just cause you ride bikes too, just like a feminist ho.
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Quote:For anyone who has ever ridden, the beginning shows they are clearly paying no attention to lane etiquette ....

Ok idk where you're from or how densely populated it is but that's not unusual for NYC. Ppl drive fast and seldom signal. Cutting off is rude but not illegal nor ticketable so saying: The guy cut me off and I ran him over won't fly in court.

Quote:"Would one of these bikers, riding by THEMSELVES, also ride in the same way to instigate an accident?

Moral high ground won't make stop them from stomping a mudhole in your ass though.

Quote:Of course not, they wanted to cause a situation so they could intimidate or beat down someone, assured they'd win because there is 30 of them.

These type of people are automatically lower forms of life, and that is where any further debate ceases to be necessary.

Don't disagree with you. But a dog is a lower form of life and can severely injure me if I enrage it. When he hit the gas and plowed over the biker, he was pissed. He was in their frame. No rational person would've ran someone over.

Biker who cut him off is a knucklehead and so is the Asian dude. You don't follow a stupid act with an equally stupid act. Both parties are at fault. I just find it interesting how everyone here seems to think that only the bikers are in the wrong.


Quote:If you're someone who sheds any sympathy to these type of guys, you need to take LONG hard look at yourself.

I feel bad for neither side but am surprised how much support the Asian guy has on here and everywhere else. It take serious mental gymnastics to rationalize running someone over b/c you got cut-off and break-checked. Idk if the family, race, or something else, i don't get it.

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(10-01-2013 07:17 PM)Goldin Boy Wrote:  
Quote:For anyone who has ever ridden, the beginning shows they are clearly paying no attention to lane etiquette ....

Ok idk where you're from or how densely populated it is but that's not unusual for NYC. Ppl drive fast and seldom signal. Cutting off is rude but not illegal nor ticketable so saying: The guy cut me off and I ran him over won't fly in court.


Check the video again: the biker cuts the driver off and then slams on the brakes and this causes the accident.


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Quote:"Would one of these bikers, riding by THEMSELVES, also ride in the same way to instigate an accident?

Moral high ground won't make stop them from stomping a mudhole in your ass though.

Quote:Of course not, they wanted to cause a situation so they could intimidate or beat down someone, assured they'd win because there is 30 of them.

These type of people are automatically lower forms of life, and that is where any further debate ceases to be necessary.

Don't disagree with you. But a dog is a lower form of life and can severely injure me if I enrage it. When he hit the gas and plowed over the biker, he was pissed. He was in their frame. No rational person would've ran someone over.

Biker who cut him off is a knucklehead and so is the Asian dude. You don't follow a stupid act with an equally stupid act. Both parties are at fault. I just find it interesting how everyone here seems to think that only the bikers are in the wrong.


What exactly did the driver do wrong? The bikers slash his tires and smash his car, of course he tried to get away.


Quote:I feel bad for neither side but am surprised how much support the Asian guy has on here and everywhere else. It take serious mental gymnastics to rationalize running someone over b/c you got cut-off and break-checked. Idk if the family, race, or something else, i don't get it.

They started attacking his car, including slashing the tires.
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I would tell what I really think about this incident, but I really like this forum and don't want to get banned.
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(10-01-2013 07:17 PM)Goldin Boy Wrote:  
Quote:For anyone who has ever ridden, the beginning shows they are clearly paying no attention to lane etiquette ....

Ok idk where you're from or how densely populated it is but that's not unusual for NYC. Ppl drive fast and seldom signal. Cutting off is rude but not illegal nor ticketable so saying: The guy cut me off and I ran him over won't fly in court.

As I said, for those that understand riding in groups.

I'm not talking about merging, changing lanes which can be charged in a high speed environment. I'm talking about the wanton recklessness in shutting off lanes and acting if they have sole authority of the roads.

They were acting in a manner as if they were sole agents of the road. They are not entitled to that degree of arrogance.

This automatically makes them the wrong party.

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Quote:"Would one of these bikers, riding by THEMSELVES, also ride in the same way to instigate an accident?

Moral high ground won't make stop them from stomping a mudhole in your ass though.

We can all engage in a race to the bottom.

Winners don't believe we should race to the bottom.

This is a winners forum.

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Quote:Of course not, they wanted to cause a situation so they could intimidate or beat down someone, assured they'd win because there is 30 of them.

These type of people are automatically lower forms of life, and that is where any further debate ceases to be necessary.

Don't disagree with you. But a dog is a lower form of life and can severely injure me if I enrage it. When he hit the gas and plowed over the biker, he was pissed. He was in their frame. No rational person would've ran someone over.

A dog has limited understanding.

A person understand that brake-checking a car tends to put the drivers of the car in an unavoidable position.

That is the story here, this group of bikers was determiend to make someone.... anyone..... liable for a position they can't avoid.

In this case it was a poor asian bloke driving around with is wife and child, hardly a menace to society, and definately not someone who would have plowed into a bike rider except when pushed into it in the most extraordinary circumstances.

Circumstances these bikers were determined to make unavoidable.

The ony defence here is 'well the bikers were being assholes, and as they had numbers, they were going to deliver a beatdown no matter what.

Asian bloke should have let assholes be assholes.'

No, that's the mindset of someone who has been conditioned to a world of haters, assholes should no be tolerated.

Quote:Biker who cut him off is a knucklehead and so is the Asian dude. You don't follow a stupid act with an equally stupid act. Both parties are at fault. I just find it interesting how everyone here seems to think that only the bikers are in the wrong.

The RR driver is not at fault, that's like saying I'm at fault for splattering blood on your shirt after you punched me in the nose.

The RR drivers could not have avoided a situation when the bikers sole purpose was to create one.

The RR drivers may have been unwise taking the action he did, but he is no way at fault at all. A drivers got in a car with his wife and kids, he had no premeditated action other than enjoy time with his family.

The bikers has definately had a premeditated view of ruining someone's day, if not the RR drivers then it would have been someone else.

As I said, if you feel this way, you need to take long look at yourself.

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Quote:If you're someone who sheds any sympathy to these type of guys, you need to take LONG hard look at yourself.

I feel bad for neither side but am surprised how much support the Asian guy has on here and everywhere else. It take serious mental gymnastics to rationalize running someone over b/c you got cut-off and break-checked. Idk if the family, race, or something else, i don't get it.

He didn't just run over someone who brake-chekced him.

He was brake-checked, surrounded by 30+ people, violent gestures were thrown at him for hitting the brake-checker and his tyres slashed.

He was a guy driving around with hjis wife and kid when this sort of trash enters his life, and makes his life shit because they wanted some drama.

Like we say when feminists are out of control....

These bikers are not entitled to act this way

You giving them a get out of gaol card in a search for some sort of moral equivalence is why society degenerates in the first place.

I can't fathom how how anyone who is a winner thinks the asian guy has anything to apologise for.

The bikers crossed a line of decent behaviour, and crossed it by a long way. Once they do that, they are not victims of any response they get.
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(10-01-2013 07:17 PM)Goldin Boy Wrote:  
Quote:If you're someone who sheds any sympathy to these type of guys, you need to take LONG hard look at yourself.

I feel bad for neither side but am surprised how much support the Asian guy has on here and everywhere else. It take serious mental gymnastics to rationalize running someone over b/c you got cut-off and break-checked. Idk if the family, race, or something else, i don't get it.

Let's walk through the simple scenario.
1) Guy hits bike, he stops, he plans on handling it responsibly - even though the biker looks like he stopped an created the accident.
2) Gets surrounded, starts feeling his life and his family's safety is at risk - doesn't think there is a safe way out of this. For all the stand your ground folks - this is similar even if NY doesn't have the law. He feels his life is threatened and does something about it. You can't judge what he is feeling, he is making choices based on his decision process, perspective and data being presented to him in a tense moment. Tell me how you feel surrounded by 40 assholes.

I hate to make those a "real man" does xyz statements. But I'll do it here, a real man protects his family, even if he has to suffer consequences later. Even if he has to die. I don't think any man could really stomach knowing he could have done something but was too scared. No man wants to see his family suffer or be harmed.

So he did what he had to do. He just shouldn't have gotten off the freeway though.

So ya, I can see him doing that. I bet a lot of the guys on this board would have done that, aside from the gun advocates, they would have remodeled some faces and added some extra windows to these assholes. Biggrin

I don't think any jury trial or civil trial is going to really have much sympathy for the guy who got crushed (I read no charges were being made against the driver).

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(10-01-2013 11:21 AM)Kingsley Davis Wrote:  I deal with this shit all the time by residing in a major city. You're bound to run into packs of road using vehicles of every variety bikers, bicyclists, scooter riders, skateboarders, etc. It's no different than taking a drive through the country side/national park and have your ride interrupted by a pack/herd of animals. You just stop/slow down and make them move along.
Sure that idiot goaded the Range Rover (there's a goader or three in every pack) that's when he should've put his hazards on, slow down, pull over, smile and wave them along. Especially with his family along, he's not Mad Max and this is not The Thunder Dome, yet.

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He should have pulled over to the side of the road on the interstate so people could drive past him on motorcycles?
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I'm all for concealed carry, but I'm not really seeing how a gun would have improved a situation like this.

There were a million angry bikers who wanted blood, 7 rounds in a clip... You do the math on that one.
IMO had the guy got out and pulled a gun he probably would have been killed.

I take simple comfort in the statistical likelihood that several of the idiots in this video will be involved in a fatal single vehicle crash later in their lives. Good riddance! Please check the organ donor option on your drivers license, thanks.
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