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(07-04-2019 09:17 PM)Aquarius Wrote:  
(07-04-2019 06:45 PM)Dr. Howard Wrote:  Updating this thread.

The democrats are coming.

Now that Nashville is full, all of the out of state emigration from California and New York is targeting east Tennessee. The city of knoxville has been 'discovered' and will be overrun in 10 years max. However, the smaller towns and 'cities' that have never been on the national news and blend in with google maps are still great. Full churches everywhere, great place to be a christian or find a girl if you have a Dolly Parton fetish.

At the rate things are going, any sizable population center in the South that's not an economically stagnant shithole will be overran by Yankees and Californians. I know that Chattanooga, Greenville, and possibly Huntsville have similar issues.

The worst part is that they have zero respect for what's there in the first place and just change the existing culture into an inferior mini-version of California or the Northeast.

This is depressing.

There are virtually no large conservative cities left in the US and now 2nd and 3rd tier places are getting the libtard treatment as well. There are plenty of towns in upstate NY or eastern California that these libtards could take over and re-model in their image.

BUT NO.... they HAVE to go into deep red places like Idaho, Tennessee, and Texas and just shit in the pool. Honestly, a part of me rather just move overseas at this point if every desirable conservative town and state is gonna get run over by coastal libtards in the end. I'm tired of seeing nice places eventually turned into high tax/expensive/bum shit everywhere dumps because of these libtards and their stupid ass politics. It's one thing to make a mistake and learn from it; it's whole another can of worms when they just run away from their mistakes and want to repeat the same stupid program again in a new location time after time.

Internal passports would be amazing but are impossible to implement under the current US governmental legal structure.

The only way this is getting fixed at this point is via breaking up the USA.
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RE: East Tennessee Data Sheet
What's a "conservative city".
Most conservatives I know prefer living out in the country with their families - or at the very least, in the burbs. When someone says a "conservative city", I can think of only a handful of places where there is perhaps a strong military presence. For the most part, I wouldn't want to live in any of those places. Even Boise, Idaho is pretty liberal, look at the election results. Look at Utah. Mormons are way more conservative than protestants, but SLC is a rabidly left wing globohomo nightmare. My conservative family is mostly from Tennessee, but they don't go anywhere near Nashville proper.

What you're looking for just doesn't exist.
Knoxville, I've been there years ago... it's a college town with a strong hipster element. It's always leaned left. I don't perceive it to be a place where most people stay after graduating college due to the lack of jobs. Most young people that hang out there smoke a ton of weed.

Some of the most liberal people I know in Dallas are not the Californians that are moving there, but the locals... Nonetheless, even in Dallas, the epicenter of California/NY emigration, we have plenty of conservatives here in the burbs. Doesn't take much to find them.

And just throwing this out there, if you're in the game why would you want to live in a place where most people are settled down and raising families which pretty much describes most Southern cities except New Orleans and Atlanta...

There are pockets of conservatives everywhere. In NYC, we had the Upper East Side. In Baltimore, Federal Hill/Harbor East has a more conservative vibe - yet not sacrificing on the singles/nightlife front.
Would rather live in either of those places than Knoxville...
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(07-07-2019 12:08 PM)FullThrottleTX Wrote:  What's a "conservative city".
Most conservatives I know prefer living out in the country with their families - or at the very least, in the burbs. When someone says a "conservative city", I can think of only a handful of places where there is perhaps a strong military presence. For the most part, I wouldn't want to live in any of those places. Even Boise, Idaho is pretty liberal, look at the election results. Look at Utah. Mormons are way more conservative than protestants, but SLC is a rabidly left wing globohomo nightmare. My conservative family is mostly from Tennessee, but they don't go anywhere near Nashville proper.

What you're looking for just doesn't exist.
Knoxville, I've been there years ago... it's a college town with a strong hipster element. It's always leaned left. I don't perceive it to be a place where most people stay after graduating college due to the lack of jobs. Most young people that hang out there smoke a ton of weed.

Some of the most liberal people I know in Dallas are not the Californians that are moving there, but the locals... Nonetheless, even in Dallas, the epicenter of California/NY emigration, we have plenty of conservatives here in the burbs. Doesn't take much to find them.

And just throwing this out there, if you're in the game why would you want to live in a place where most people are settled down and raising families which pretty much describes most Southern cities except New Orleans and Atlanta...

There are pockets of conservatives everywhere. In NYC, we had the Upper East Side. In Baltimore, Federal Hill/Harbor East has a more conservative vibe - yet not sacrificing on the singles/nightlife front.
Would rather live in either of those places than Knoxville...

To each their own. Someone may not want to live in NYC or Baltimore vs. Tennessee due to cost of living, weather or high densities of evangelical Christians.

Also, if you are 'in the game' to find a family minded wife, looking in areas where the population is family minded is probably a good idea. If you are looking for a steady supply of sluts, seek a destination that attracts sluts.

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RE: East Tennessee Data Sheet
(07-07-2019 05:11 PM)Dr. Howard Wrote:  To each their own. Someone may not want to live in NYC or Baltimore vs. Tennessee due to cost of living, weather or high densities of evangelical Christians.

Also, if you are 'in the game' to find a family minded wife, looking in areas where the population is family minded is probably a good idea. If you are looking for a steady supply of sluts, seek a destination that attracts sluts.

I'm with you on finding a long-term thing (wife... eh, I'm divorced not sure that will happen again). No doubt, NYC isn't worth the cost of living - and is sort of a special case anyway....

Disagree though on your premise about living in a "family-oriented" place to find a wife. What you'll more likely find is a surplus of single moms. I have nothing against single moms, but most of us aren't looking for that. The options in terms of finding a wife in a place like Knoxville without already having a social circle are really sparse, especially if you're not a Southerner by trade and it decreases to almost nothing if you're not part of a Protestant church...

Divorce rates in the South are much higher than in the North. New York, New Jersey, ect - these places have the most intact families. It's very apparent, being I'm from the Midwest - the land of single moms, that the single parent phenomena is not as common in the Northeast as it is in the South/Midwest... I felt a little out of place in the Northeast not having two parents frankly...

EDIT: Also disagree with the notion that New Yorkers aren't family oriented. Visit Park Slope and you'll see a ton of educated white girls pushing baby strollers... Agree, not the best place to settle down (the 20 something transplants are actually the problem), but I see signs of civilization everywhere I look lol...
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RE: East Tennessee Data Sheet
(07-07-2019 12:08 PM)FullThrottleTX Wrote:  What's a "conservative city".
Most conservatives I know prefer living out in the country with their families - or at the very least, in the burbs. When someone says a "conservative city", I can think of only a handful of places where there is perhaps a strong military presence. For the most part, I wouldn't want to live in any of those places. Even Boise, Idaho is pretty liberal, look at the election results. Look at Utah. Mormons are way more conservative than protestants, but SLC is a rabidly left wing globohomo nightmare. My conservative family is mostly from Tennessee, but they don't go anywhere near Nashville proper.

What you're looking for just doesn't exist.
Knoxville, I've been there years ago... it's a college town with a strong hipster element. It's always leaned left. I don't perceive it to be a place where most people stay after graduating college due to the lack of jobs. Most young people that hang out there smoke a ton of weed.

Some of the most liberal people I know in Dallas are not the Californians that are moving there, but the locals... Nonetheless, even in Dallas, the epicenter of California/NY emigration, we have plenty of conservatives here in the burbs. Doesn't take much to find them.

And just throwing this out there, if you're in the game why would you want to live in a place where most people are settled down and raising families which pretty much describes most Southern cities except New Orleans and Atlanta...

You are right in the sense that in the USA at least, urban areas trend more liberal. Always has been the case during modern history.

However, places like Colorado, Idaho, North Carolina, Tennessee, Texas, and Virginia that were once solid red/lean red places are now shifting towards purple or even blue now due to mass emigration from one-party libtard failed states like NY and CA. As the states become less red, the checks and balances on the worst tendencies of the liberal cities within red states start evaporating and we start to see cities go Full Libtard with no brakes to stop the madness train.

Eventually, the state goes solid blue and it's virtually impossible to turn the ship around. Between the lost of control at the state level AND the mass influx of outsiders with no respect for the local culture and customs (and no sense about WHY they left their beloved libtard homes), THAT'S when the wheels REALLY start to fly off. It can happen very fast once certain conditions are met.

California and what has occurred there over the last several decades is a great example of what I'm talking about: Always had liberal cities but the overall state populace kept shit in check. But between Reagan's amnesty in the 1980s and the corrupt federal courts blocking of 1994's Proposition 187 (blocked illegals from using public services, voted YES 60 to 40% by Californians!! - crazy to imagine now), the overall state populace lost control to the libtards and the great downfall begun. In short, the inmates took over the insane asylum, people of lesser means and power jumped ship, and everything ultimately up in a unrecoverable death spiral.

If you live in a red state that is seeing a huge influx of libtards, a repeat of California is a very real risk given the historical evidence, the state-to-state emigration data, and the current trends regarding demographics.

Today, Tennesee is very ripe to get the Californication libtard treatment. No income taxes, low property taxes, affordable homes, and it's becoming the hip place like Austin and Texas overall was in the 2000's. And who's got the money and jobs right now that every money grubbing state can't resisit? BIG TECH. Amazon for example just suddenly became the 1st or 2nd largest private employer in Nashville with their announcement of their OPS center there or whatever it was. In the 2000's, Austin was welcoming all the Big Tech/coastal money and NOW, we seriously talk about about when Texas will vote blue in a Presidential election. So ask yourself:

How long before Tennessee scraps its statewide anti-sanctuary for illegals law?

How long before Nashville is covered in shit and the homeless are allowed to run amok?

How long before the cost of living skyrockets because the libtards impose NIMBY building restrictions that prevent market demanded real estate development?

How long before we are talking about Tennessee being a purple state in Presidential elections?

So while no real deal true conservatives cities have largely existed in most of modern day America, there are PLENTY of once nice cities (with liberal leaning populaces) in solid conservative states that are now on tracked to be destroyed by the libtards. Personally, I think the best deals in America (especially for single guys) are living in liberal leaning cities in solid conservative states. A lot of people feel that way. Remember when everyone RAVED about Austin in the 2000's? They said: "It's liberal... but it's Texas liberal." Now? Not so much. Too expensive, too many homeless, too crowded, too many libtards, etc. At the same time, you got tards like Beto almost becoming US senators. THAT's a consequence of too many libtards flooding Austin and overall Texas too fast with no controls.

That same story is playing out all over numerous red states right now at various levels. It' generally always ends the same.

Unfortunately, there are zero mechanisms in place in the current USA framework to stop the aforementioned. If I could wave a magic wand and could go back in time a bit, I would have quotas on how many registered democrats from NY and CA were allowed to move into certain GOP stronghold states. But... this country now can't even agree on preventing foreign invaders from coming in and stealing from native citizens so it's basically hopeless at this point in the long run.

The last hope now is that some true MAGA super based governor in a very red state will rebel against the union for valid reasons that other states can rally behind. A good example would be to refusing to accept refugees and illegals into their towns by a libtard federal government. And I mean real deal refusal; like blockades and mass deportations by state LE and national guard with no regard for the federal governments preference or opinion.

This is why I say the only way this gets fixed is via USA separation in the end. Sad but that's how it is.
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^^ Whites aren't getting more liberal as time goes on. It's just that there are more and more minorities voting. In places like texas, where latino turnout is poor, it's just a matter of time til they recognize their own voting block and turn texas Blue. Something like 70 percent of all kids being born in Texas now are latino.
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The Black Knight, you make some good points and while I think California is a worst-case scenario of left lunacy and government mismanagement, it is possible for it to happen again. For day-to-day living though, understanding the character of a city (particularly in the part of the city where you actually WANT to live) is far more important rather than just looking at voting trends.

For example, both the Seattle and the Miami metro areas had 62% of the vote go to Clinton in 2016, but the two places couldn't be any more different politically. Miami is generally a pretty apolitical place. People don't really give a shit. Sure, you'll see some basic virtue signaling (like the Pride Parade) but it is easy to ignore and in many neighborhoods you literally won't even notice it. Meanwhile, in Seattle you could throw a stone and hit either a junkie or some ANTIFA nutcase.

A few other places such as Phoenix and Las Vegas come to mind. Both places technically lean left, but I'd hardly call them "liberal" cities. Walking around I always see plenty of people wearing MAGA hats, gun rights shirts, and showing conservative beliefs openly. This is particularly true in suburban areas though I've seen it everywhere.

Even in California, I can name probably 20 suburban neighborhoods (think 20-50k population & close to a major city) where relatively conservative people have great quality of life while almost never seeing homeless, people shitting on streets, etc. The only time when politics affects their lives is when they're paying taxes, or during the election when they find out CA voted Democrat again (surprise surprise).

Unless you choose to live in a complete SJW stronghold such as SF, Seattle, Brooklyn, etc, the changes that occur from having out-of-state people moving shouldn't be that meaningful, particularly in a short period of time.
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Thanks for the update.

Still planning on coming down to TN for road trip. I want to pack the dirtbike too and do some riding on the backcountry roads.

When is the best month for camping?
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(07-07-2019 07:35 PM)FullThrottleTX Wrote:  
(07-07-2019 05:11 PM)Dr. Howard Wrote:  To each their own. Someone may not want to live in NYC or Baltimore vs. Tennessee due to cost of living, weather or high densities of evangelical Christians.

Also, if you are 'in the game' to find a family minded wife, looking in areas where the population is family minded is probably a good idea. If you are looking for a steady supply of sluts, seek a destination that attracts sluts.

I'm with you on finding a long-term thing (wife... eh, I'm divorced not sure that will happen again). No doubt, NYC isn't worth the cost of living - and is sort of a special case anyway....

Disagree though on your premise about living in a "family-oriented" place to find a wife. What you'll more likely find is a surplus of single moms. I have nothing against single moms, but most of us aren't looking for that. The options in terms of finding a wife in a place like Knoxville without already having a social circle are really sparse, especially if you're not a Southerner by trade and it decreases to almost nothing if you're not part of a Protestant church...

Divorce rates in the South are much higher than in the North. New York, New Jersey, ect - these places have the most intact families. It's very apparent, being I'm from the Midwest - the land of single moms, that the single parent phenomena is not as common in the Northeast as it is in the South/Midwest... I felt a little out of place in the Northeast not having two parents frankly...

EDIT: Also disagree with the notion that New Yorkers aren't family oriented. Visit Park Slope and you'll see a ton of educated white girls pushing baby strollers... Agree, not the best place to settle down (the 20 something transplants are actually the problem), but I see signs of civilization everywhere I look lol...

I agree with what you say but you are missing the point here. There are tons of both liberal loony heritage Southerners and conservative, attractive, wife material Yankees.

The main issue is not whose having families and whose not, but differences in culture. What makes the South desirable is not just the weather or the cost of living, but the culture. Southerners have a distinct history as a people. Being southern is a distinct cuisine, distinct mindset, distinct cuisine, and even distinguishable looks, style, and accent. Something as little as small talk with cashiers or holding the door open for people is a part of the Southern way of life. Something that's unknown and in fact unfeasible in the fast paced, high density atmosphere of NYC.

While many multigenerational city dwellers in the South are also hardcore neoliberal Democrats, the way they carry themselves, their accents, style, outlook on life, down to their favorite foods is distinctly southern. None of this can be replicated by their counterparts in other areas of the region. The brash New York hustler doesn't have much in common with the genteel Southern gentleman.

Yankees and the Californians from the big city simply have a different familial history and brought up with different values. When they move en masse into the South, they not only clash with the conservatives, but also the liberal locals. When a local's favorite old timey meat and threes diner gets priced out by a third wave coffee shop owned by young, hip Jersey transplants, the effects of such radical changes always ends in resentment. This is true even if the regular at the former diner is just as politically liberal as the baristas in the new coffee shop. As different values clash head on and resentment brews, the fabric holding society collapses: Crimes rises, stress rises, and the very hospitality that New York hipsters enjoy and feel welcomed by gets tossed out of the window.

With old establishments start closing their doors and moves on with the new residents, increased traffic and crime are the other immediate consequences. At the end of the day, everyone involved get on the short end of the stick: Locals no longer recognize their home they grew up in and the transplants end up dealing with the very same overpriced, congested crime ridden shithole that they fled from: It might even be worse than their hometowns as its an inauthentic copy of the original.

Fast forward, with the glue binding the locals together falling apart, the children of the locals only know of the friendly southern city their hometown once was as dinner table anecdotes. Going to a school with transplant teachers and classmates, dealing with an overgrown major city and associated problems, and frequenting neighborhood businesses that now cater to transplant tastes, all of this gets internalized and becomes their new identity: Southern culture becomes just as alien to them and instead they become inferior, inauthentic versions of coastal hipsters. In fact, many even have chips on their shoulder as a consequence.

This phenomenon is almost unfair for the transplants who are genuinely attracted to the south for its distinctive culture and lifestyle. Not only the locals lose the home they hold dear to, but also well-meaning transplants get robbed of the chance to move to a place they truly resonate with.

The end result of all of this? The destruction of a distinct culture. The destruction of what made a certain city or state unique and attractive. Arguably, this is very much a form of social engineering.
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Excellent post Aquarius

I live in the ultimate liberal shithole of Toronto, Canada. For over a decade, I have been a regular listener of WDVX, an excellent Americana radio station based out of Knoxville. The personalities of the DJ's comes through. I have learnt a lot about the region from just listening to this station.
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(07-08-2019 10:25 PM)Aquarius Wrote:  The main issue is not whose having families and whose not, but differences in culture. What makes the South desirable is not just the weather or the cost of living, but the culture. Southerners have a distinct history as a people. Being southern is a distinct cuisine, distinct mindset, distinct cuisine, and even distinguishable looks, style, and accent. Something as little as small talk with cashiers or holding the door open for people is a part of the Southern way of life. Something that's unknown and in fact unfeasible in the fast paced, high density atmosphere of NYC.

Frankly, there is nothing you mentioned that I can't find in a smaller town in New Jersey. You should visit some time...
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