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Kanye is big enough that he doesn't need the (((producers))) and (((distributors))) to sign off on his music anymore.

Props to him for his willingness to alienate a large part of his fan base with this album. Putting faith over money is not easy.

That said I hope this works out financially for him as well.
10-29-2019 04:17 PM
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(10-28-2019 06:47 AM)Sosa Wrote:  "But honestly if Kanye does nothing to us but deliver Christian rap from here until eternity, I think that's going to mean kind of the end to his career ......"






These powerful liberals in the music industry ALL have the same talking points. Now that Kanye's has turned his life to God, they want to to cancel him.

Talk about money, murder, high fashion, f**cking girls and bleaching their butt holes - they'll promote your message to the masses, however the moment you even mention the word "Jesus", everyone loses their damn minds, your music is trash and you're a lame. They wish the "old" Kanye was back.





If this does not convince you a spiritual manifestation is ongoing right now, I don't know what will. #JesusisKing caused a nuclear sized glitch in the simulation, just as when Roosh announced the rule changes on the forum banning casual sex and hooking up. The vicious backlash he received was shocking, even though hes been the same guy we've known for over a decade. Imagine the backlash Kanye is getting globally. There are people who actually want to KILL this man. It makes you wonder who is controlling the system.

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Yep.

To some extent, I don't really give a crap whether he's serious and/or actually understands the subject matter. He's always been a personality of unhinged excess but it's still remarkably useful for the cause to have someone with this kind of celebrity cache displaying rabid enthusiasm.
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Kanye turned reporters to whine.
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Seems he's also been slagging off his wife Kim Kockdashian an awful lot these days, whether directly or indirectly. No man who has made a turn to God, (if his turn to God is indeed genuine) could feel good about himself when you choose to marry a cum dumpster like her.
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^ The Orthodox church teaches us not to divorce in this situation. She's the cross he has to bear, and her salvation will likely be due to him. God intends all to be saved. Instead of insulting her, pray for her salvation.

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Here's something to think about-

Imagine in two years Kayne falls away from Christ and goes back to making mainstream hip-hop. He declares himself a Scientologist and denounces God. How would you feel. Would it affect your faith?

Imagine a Christian hero who has produced half a dozen Christian albums, led millions to Christ, some of whom are your friends, and you see him denounce it all. How would they feel? Would it affect their faith? Probably at least some of them would be negatively affected.

The thing about Kayne that not a lot of people are talking about is that he's newly saved. Lots of people "get saved" and then fall off or mostly go back to their old ways. Lots. Maybe even most. I'm glad Kayne has found God and believe his faith is genuine but you don't know how many newly saved people talk just like him and are back out drinking in the club inside a year. I've seen it plenty as a teenager in church ministry.

I think before we put too much responsibility on him we should wait and see how his faith develops or otherwise we'll be setting ourselves up for a let down. It can be a huge stumbling block to see a Christian you love and respect fall or turn around and outright reject Christ only a few years after having been saved. This happens more than you think.

Be careful with putting too much faith in Kayne is all I'm saying. Don't let his walk affect yours and don't let a celebrity's faith (or fall from faith) affect your own.
Be happy for him and pray for him but don't make him your idol.
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@PainPostive

Yes, wait and see seems like the best approach to any conversion, especially a celebrity one.

A person can get through the first year of faith on enthusiasm and adrenaline alone.

Wait until it gets boring or tedious or you realize you have to do some seriously difficult apologies and amends makings, and you really start white knuckling it, and a lot will fall away.

The fourth year might be the killer, long after anyone bothers to have an opinion about you anymore, and it is just you and God, and you are expected to do what's right just because it's right, and not because anyone notices.

You might be surprised at all the inner demons that bubble to the surface, little demons that you thought you had cast away in those first giddy months.

Still, all the best to him, it is a tough stance in his world.

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(10-29-2019 11:05 PM)PainPositive Wrote:  Here's something to think about-

Imagine in two years Kayne falls away from Christ and goes back to making mainstream hip-hop. He declares himself a Scientologist and denounces God. How would you feel. Would it affect your faith?

Imagine a Christian hero who has produced half a dozen Christian albums, led millions to Christ, some of whom are your friends, and you see him denounce it all. How would they feel? Would it affect their faith? Probably at least some of them would be negatively affected.

The thing about Kayne that not a lot of people are talking about is that he's newly saved. Lots of people "get saved" and then fall off or mostly go back to their old ways. Lots. Maybe even most. I'm glad Kayne has found God and believe his faith is genuine but you don't know how many newly saved people talk just like him and are back out drinking in the club inside a year. I've seen it plenty as a teenager in church ministry.

I think before we put too much responsibility on him we should wait and see how his faith develops or otherwise we'll be setting ourselves up for a let down. It can be a huge stumbling block to see a Christian you love and respect fall or turn around and outright reject Christ only a few years after having been saved. This happens more than you think.

Be careful with putting too much faith in Kayne is all I'm saying. Don't let his walk affect yours and don't let a celebrity's faith (or fall from faith) affect your own.
Be happy for him and pray for him but don't make him your idol.

Sober truth. I hate to admit it, but there seems to be a fairly big turnover rate of Christians artists who ended up not only renouncing their faith but ended up becoming pretty hostile towards their former beliefs. Earlier this year there was one guy who used to be part of the original Hillsong United worship team who's not only left the faith but went full on fedora atheist. And remember these are guys who were started off as Christian artists/worships leaders from the beginning as opposed to only having gone a recent conversion like Kanye. And also unlike Kayne, they aren't wrapped up in the whole Hollywood life yet that still fell. I've seen a few comments that expressed being hopeful about his change but also said the best thing for him would be to withdraw from the public for a while. I agree with that.
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(10-26-2019 05:31 PM)Lazuli Waves Wrote:  One odd thing he has done recently is sell $225 sweatshirts and two pairs of socks for $50 on Easter Sunday at his Sunday Service at Mountain concert at Coachella.

$50 ‘Jesus’ socks. Ridiculous. I browsed a few articles and see no mention of where the profit from these sales is going. Is it a Christian or other charity? I doubt it. This reminds me of the time JayZ exploited the ‘Occupy Wall Street’ movement by selling OWS inspired t shirts but kept the money for himself. Kanye has taken this to a whole new level. Thumbs down.
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I remember back when Mike Tyson was baptized. Then he became a Muslim and later (I think) abandoned Islam.

On the other hand, you have guys like Steve McQueen and Alice Cooper. Seeing God change someone you would have never expected to change is a glorious thing.

Perhaps the most appropriate response is cautious optimism.
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(10-30-2019 08:11 PM)Nineteen84 Wrote:  
(10-26-2019 05:31 PM)Lazuli Waves Wrote:  One odd thing he has done recently is sell $225 sweatshirts and two pairs of socks for $50 on Easter Sunday at his Sunday Service at Mountain concert at Coachella.

$50 ‘Jesus’ socks. Ridiculous. I browsed a few articles and see no mention of where the profit from these sales is going. Is it a Christian or other charity? I doubt it. This reminds me of the time JayZ exploited the ‘Occupy Wall Street’ movement by selling OWS inspired t shirts but kept the money for himself. Kanye has taken this to a whole new level. Thumbs down.

The profits are for his Yeezy clothing brand.
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(10-30-2019 10:46 PM)Athanasius Wrote:  I remember back when Mike Tyson was baptized. Then he became a Muslim and later (I think) abandoned Islam.

On the other hand, you have guys like Steve McQueen and Alice Cooper. Seeing God change someone you would have never expected to change is a glorious thing.

Perhaps the most appropriate response is cautious optimism.

Dave Mustaine, the Korn guys, and even Victor Griffin from Pentagram. Griffin does a Christian doom metal band now called Place Of Skulls, highly recommend.

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(10-31-2019 12:44 AM)MichaelWitcoff Wrote:  
(10-30-2019 10:46 PM)Athanasius Wrote:  I remember back when Mike Tyson was baptized. Then he became a Muslim and later (I think) abandoned Islam.

On the other hand, you have guys like Steve McQueen and Alice Cooper. Seeing God change someone you would have never expected to change is a glorious thing.

Perhaps the most appropriate response is cautious optimism.

Dave Mustaine, the Korn guys, and even Victor Griffin from Pentagram. Griffin does a Christian doom metal band now called Place Of Skulls, highly recommend.

Brian Welch has a good testimony.

“That sig BTW is a very asinine anti-family anti-parent quote. You live in a country where 40% of children grow up without a biological father, yet somehow “the greatest burden a child must bear is the unlived life of its parents”? Sorry but this is fruity Boomer nonsense.”

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As does Kerry Livgren (Kansas), who wrote a lot of their songs and was involved in Urantia before his conversion. He wrote a book years ago about it.

I don't remember if there was a conversion biography, but Keith Green... Biography was No Compromise. That pretty much sums up Keith Green in two words. Guy had drifters coming in off the street living in his house. Amazing man.
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(10-31-2019 08:03 PM)Athanasius Wrote:  As does Kerry Livgren (Kansas), who wrote a lot of their songs and was involved in Urantia before his conversion. He wrote a book years ago about it.

I don't remember if there was a conversion biography, but Keith Green... Biography was No Compromise. That pretty much sums up Keith Green in two words. Guy had drifters coming in off the street living in his house. Amazing man.

Thanks for the info on Livgren, will check it out. You could tell from the start by their lyrics that Kansas was a band delving deep into life.

By the way, I saw an amazing documentary about Keith Green. He has one of the most amazing stories out there, and I had never heard of him before seeing it.

He made the great point that everyone is in your corner when you are searching for the truth, however when you find it, they all fall away or criticize you.

The pose of the seeker. How true.

Slight caveat. While his story is amazing, and you can tell by the reminiscences of his friends and family in the video that he was well loved, Keith Green was extremely annoying in a Cat Stevens sort of way.




“That sig BTW is a very asinine anti-family anti-parent quote. You live in a country where 40% of children grow up without a biological father, yet somehow “the greatest burden a child must bear is the unlived life of its parents”? Sorry but this is fruity Boomer nonsense.”

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Found the Livgren testimony.




“That sig BTW is a very asinine anti-family anti-parent quote. You live in a country where 40% of children grow up without a biological father, yet somehow “the greatest burden a child must bear is the unlived life of its parents”? Sorry but this is fruity Boomer nonsense.”

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(11-01-2019 11:00 AM)debeguiled Wrote:  
(10-31-2019 08:03 PM)Athanasius Wrote:  As does Kerry Livgren (Kansas), who wrote a lot of their songs and was involved in Urantia before his conversion. He wrote a book years ago about it.

I don't remember if there was a conversion biography, but Keith Green... Biography was No Compromise. That pretty much sums up Keith Green in two words. Guy had drifters coming in off the street living in his house. Amazing man.

Thanks for the info on Livgren, will check it out. You could tell from the start by their lyrics that Kansas was a band delving deep into life.

By the way, I saw an amazing documentary about Keith Green. He has one of the most amazing stories out there, and I had never heard of him before seeing it.

He made the great point that everyone is in your corner when you are searching for the truth, however when you find it, they all fall away or criticize you.

The pose of the seeker. How true.

Slight caveat. While his story is amazing, and you can tell by the reminiscences of his friends and family in the video that he was well loved, Keith Green was extremely annoying in a Cat Stevens sort of way.




Keith Green had unbelievable intensity and energy, just a force of nature. Like I said, he had all these homeless guys living at his house at one point. He would do concerts and berate people about the sheep and the goats and for not becoming missionaries. He was reading Charles Finney (who is largely awful) at that point. Just as he was starting to leave the cage stage, he was taken home in a plane crash. Still, he was all in and a powerful presence, almost like a modern day prophet. And I'm an old school protestant, not a charismatic. I've heard people like James White speak of him with the same admiration. His biography is moving and well worth reading. Great songwriter, too: Easter Song, O Lord You're Beautiful, Create in Me a Clean Heart, Your Love Broke Through, etc. Here's one of his songs that this guy does an incredibly good cover of (apologies to other readers as we've derailed this from Kanye West)...



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This pretty much sums up the stigma against Christian Rock

https://thehardtimes.net/opinion/opinion...ove-satan/
Quote:I get it. You see the corpse paint, the inverted crosses, the sheep’s heads skewered on mic stands, and you think, “Wow, this is one Satanic-ass band.” It’s an understandable reaction, however, the truth is that you couldn’t be more mistaken. My band Rat Christ is completely secular and is in no way affiliated with the Church of Satan. End of story. All my band-mates and I are way into the Devil, of course, but frankly, I don’t see what that has to do with anything.

It’s pretty funny, actually! Hardly a day goes by without someone asking me, “Didn’t you change your name to ‘Belphegor the Pope-Choker’? Sounds pretty Satanic to me.” I can’t deny it. That’s true. But that’s not my music; that’s just me. I changed my name as an expression of the personal, private relationship I share with the Deceiver, and I don’t think that’s hard to understand. Many musicians have firm religious convictions, and we should respect that practice whether they worship the Accuser or any other pathetic pig god.

Do my beliefs influence my art? Of course! The word “Satan” is in every song I’ve ever written. But it’s all about context. When I say “Satan” in a song, it’s figurative—I’m expressing a wholesome spirit of rebellion. When I say “Satan” in this blog, I’m referring to the Lightbringer who will soon reclaim the Earth of course, but again, that’s just me, not my music.

“But Belphegor,” you’re saying, “doesn’t Rat Christ’s first album have a song called ‘A List of Real Churches in Need of Literal Burning?” Yeah, you caught me! In Rat Christ’s early days, we were indeed tied to the Church of Satan. But then that first album didn’t sell, and around that time we coincidentally decided to distance ourselves from the Church. This upset our fans, but we were sending a message: our music should be enjoyed by everyone in the record-buying public, Christ-loving swine included.

I understand if Rat Christ’s music can come across as “preachy.” I can’t help it! I can only be who I am, and I’m a guy who loves the shit out of Satan. But rest assured that our music is for everyone. If you need proof, you’re in luck! Our new album “The Glorious Convent Orgy” drops this Friday. Check it out! And no worries if you don’t buy it. I’ll say a special prayer for you anyway.

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Good video from Father Mike:




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Kim Kardashian declares she’s returning to ‘Traditional Moral Values’ and will dress more modest in the future.

“I do think that you know, he is my husband, so, I obviously want to honor him and what he’s feeling. And he’s been going through this life change, and it’s mostly about the kids.”
– Kim Kardashian

Wow, this is very surprising. You think Kim can become a "housewife" considering her past? I hope so and it would be best for her family's sake.

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https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/c...de-1253358

"I might legally change my name to Christian Genius Billionaire Kanye West for a year until y'all understand exactly what it is… It will be on the license plate."

West also referred to Yeezy as "the Apple of apparel" and discussed his new sustainable "seed-to-sew" approach in Wyoming, a failed LVMH-Yeezy deal, and his domed housing debacle.
During the fifth annual Fast Company Innovation Festival in New York on Thursday, Kanye West surprised the crowd by showing up for a panel discussion along with Yeezy head footwear designer Steven Smith, in their first public outing together. As they unveiled the new Yeezy sneaker, partly made from an eco-friendly algae fiber, the 42-year-old musician-entrepreneur proclaimed: "Yeezy is the Apple of apparel."

Then, in form, he dropped a load of shock-and-awe news — thoughts of legally changing his name to Christian Genius Billionaire Kanye West for a year, a new Cody, Wyoming, Yeezy headquarters, the company's goal to bring manufacturing to the U.S., and how an LVMH-Yeezy deal was pulled years before his friend Virgil Abloh was named creative director of menswear at Louis Vuitton last year — a move that he alludes was a slap in the face.

On a 2024 Presidential Run

"When I run for President in 2024," West began, interrupted by an outbreak of laughter in the audience. "What y'all laughing at? We would create so many jobs! I'm not going to run, I'm going to walk. When you see headlines saying Kanye's crazy — one in three African Americans are in jail and all the celebrities are in jail also because they can't say nothing, they got no opinion, they're so scared!"

On Dad Shoes

"They call him the dad of the dad’s shoes," said West of Smith, who formerly worked everywhere from New Balance, Reebok, Nike and FILA and developed the silhouette before its recent style revival. His first design for Yeezy "sold out in 6.5 minutes," noted Smith. "We were before the movement, the resurgence of the dad craze," said West. "And there was a photograph of me wearing a really big version of the shoe that we showed in the season 5 [Yeezy] fashion show. And the paparazzi is great sometimes, because they caught me wearing this shoe a week before the Balenciaga show that had the triple S [sneakers] in it."

On An LVMH-Yeezy Deal That Fell Through

Speaking of his long-time friendship with Virgil Abloh, appointed creative director of menswear at Louis Vuitton last year, making history as the first African American to hold that position in the house’s 164-year history, West revealed that the appointment was a blow, following his own deal with LVMH years earlier that fell through. After Kim Kardashian West was robbed at gunpoint in Paris on Oct. 3, 2016 and he was hospitalized for exhaustion, West says that Bernard Arnault told him, "We’re going to back your line." And then West received a call from Arnault's son, Alexandre, notifying him that they had pulled the deal.

Fast forward to 2018. "Bernard Arnault could have picked anyone he wanted to be the head of Louis Vuitton and who was it? And as I got on that flight, [to Virgil’s first show in Paris in June 2018] I knew I had to go. Because if I didn’t go and give Virgil that hug, who was I then? No one knew that the deal had been pulled. No one knew that that was the beginning of me going to the hospital. No one knew how this game is."

On Design Rules

Speaking of their design collaboration, Smith said, "The thing I love about Kanye is the rules are all gone. Everything we've every done has just been smashed to pieces and we think about things totally different. It's liberating creativity like I've never experienced before. We're not pawns behind a desk where it's pre-programmed. With Ye it's just like ‘Go!’" West’s only parameters are no laces and no stitching. "I don’t want to go to Sunday Service and have to retie my shoes seven times in the middle of the service!" said West. "We took the word ‘try’ out of it and we just ‘do’ like Yoda says!"

On Sustainability, Wyoming Headquarters

"We moved the [Yeezy] headquarters to Cody, Wyoming," said West, adding that the building restrictions are "way lax," thereby allowing him more freedom to build and to think. Comparing the rural location to the Wright brothers living in Dayton, Ohio, he said, "They needed a place to think or we wouldn't have flight today; if the world only knew the capabilities of what we have, the press can get out of the way..."

West owns a 4,000-acre ranch in Cody, which he reportedly purchased for $14 million in September, along with other properties. "We're going to be farming and going seed to sew and have our own cotton, hydroponic farm, hemp farm, and wheat farm...and getting into how we can have less impact with the dyes, because our colors are a big signature of the brand. But also dyeing is one of the main things that's impacting the planet in the fashion industry, so just being responsible from A to Z. Within the next two years, our goal is to bring the manufacturing back to America, South America, and North America and bring it back stateside, also to present jobs for people back here."

Pulling the latest Yeezy sneaks out of a bag, while explaining that the material included a new algae fiber "harvested from ponds so eco concerns are intersecting with what we do," Smith said, "These are the future of Yeezy. These were just made in Atlanta yesterday in the U.S., pre-production. … We’re going to bring jobs back here and we're going to make Yeezys in America."

On Economic Empowerment

Last month, Forbes estimated that Yeezy will bring in over $1.5 billion in sales in 2019 and has recently referred to him as a billionaire. But in June, the publication ranked him fourth amongst the world’s wealthiest hip-hop artist, with an estimated net worth of $240 million. But he’s over the "millionaire" hump and wants to be acknowledged.

"Martin Luther King didn’t get killed because he had a dream; he had something else he was gong to talk about. He talked about black empowerment, economic empowerment," said West. "When I did Forbes, I showed them a $890 million receipt and they still didn’t say ‘billionaire.’ They don’t want us to know that we can buy land; they don’t want us to have the 100 percent ownership [that] I have at Yeezy. …When people say it's crass to call yourself a billionaire, I say I might legally change my name to Christian Genius Billionaire Kanye West for a year until y'all understand exactly what it is… It will be on the license plate."

On The Teardown of his Domed Homes

West owns 312 acres in Calabasas, on which he built a series of domed housing structures, reportedly to serve as low-income housing, until the county ordered him to tear them down in September.

"One of the domes was 10 feet too high. We were just testing it and we were going to take it down anyway," said West, expressing his frustration that local officials went to the media before working it out with him directly. "Homes are a big representation of classes and separation and protectionism. The idea that somehow this one little fence can make the difference, this gated fence can make the difference. To say this person hasn’t made it in life [and] I’ve made it in life to live behind this gate right here!"

He continued: "The most healing medication possible is love. The greatest thing we as humans have is each other. We need to be close to each other, but industry has designed cities where the house has to be a certain amount of distance from the school or your job, so that you have to get in car or take public transportation. The world is set up to make us think that we need to have less children when children is the greatest thing and the closest thing to God that we have. So we have to reengineer the cities!"


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