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RE: 1 Year Drinking Wagon Challenge for 2014
Do you guys actually enjoy blacking out? Serious question as I never enjoyed blacking out or the consequences. However, I have blacked out one too many times because I was having fun with no intention to do so.
07-16-2019 07:18 AM
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Speaking for myself, yes, I loved it.

It's like being able to experience death but not actually die; so in a way, it's conditioning yourself for the inevitable.

Plus, it's the only real way to experience time travel. One minute you're at a bar, talking to strangers, laughing it up. Then in the blink of an eye, you wake up and it's morning and you're next to a river and barefoot.

It's scary, but I enjoyed the danger of it. In hindsight, I'm lucky I didn't end up dead, seriously injured, robbed, or had my teeth knocked out or something. It's pretty much like Russian roulette. I was lucky, but I know if I ever get into the habit again, I'm gonna lose.
07-18-2019 08:44 AM
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I was fortunate not to have blacked out too much over the years because I always found it to be a pretty horrific experience. I once woke up in a snow bank years ago, probably on my way home from a bar, fortunately I wasn’t passed out too long because I could’ve gotten hypothermia, lots of vagrants die that way every year in Canada. As much of a pisstank as I was, overall I was usually pretty responsible especially in recent years so I wouldn’t drink and drive and if I was getting too sloppy, I’d usually take a taxi home before I got myself into trouble.

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07-18-2019 10:50 AM
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RE: 1 Year Drinking Wagon Challenge for 2014
As of 13 July 2019, I’m on the wagon.

As recommended in this thread I read Allen Carr’s Easy Way which covers how we hamster for alcohol. I also attended an 8-hour Allen Carr seminar, which I recommend. The facilitator explains red pill truths about alcohol and the cost - risks - benefits of it. The seminar is based on appealing to people’s reasoning and it’s hard to justify taking it.

At the end of the seminar I felt that I had just been told that someone I had a lifetime relationship with, whom I went nearly everywhere with was not my friend but a secret saboteur. Like Sharon Stone’s character as Quaid’s wife in Total Recall. Everything was ok when Quaid was ignorant and the loving pretence was the order of the domestic bliss. But when he realised there was a problem his wife became nasty.

There were more women than men at the seminar. They shed a lot of tears. Prosecco and wine drinking at home is women’s problem. This was an eye opener.

I’ve seen Allen Carr seminars half price on groupon.
07-21-2019 12:23 AM
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Gentlemen, this isn't the first time I've written a message like this and I can probably promise it won't be the last.

I can't apologize enough for being such a bitch.

I haven't had a drink in 4 years and 3 months. Not a drop.

But I'm so depressed right now it's all I think about. With my high blood pressure and sleep apnea, it wouldn't take much to start a chain reaction that will leave me dead of a heart attack. I've been fantasizing about it all day. Just downing an entire bottle of whiskey in one long drag, like Bluto in "Animal House." And then just keep going. Just keep going til I stop "Leaving Las Vegas" style.

Yes. This is a bitch ass pussy cry for help. I'm desperate for someone to give me some reason not to fucking drink myself to death.

I'm sorry.
07-30-2019 08:12 AM
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(07-30-2019 08:12 AM)etwsake Wrote:  Gentlemen, this isn't the first time I've written a message like this and I can probably promise it won't be the last.

I can't apologize enough for being such a bitch.

I haven't had a drink in 4 years and 3 months. Not a drop.

But I'm so depressed right now it's all I think about. With my high blood pressure and sleep apnea, it wouldn't take much to start a chain reaction that will leave me dead of a heart attack. I've been fantasizing about it all day. Just downing an entire bottle of whiskey in one long drag, like Bluto in "Animal House." And then just keep going. Just keep going til I stop "Leaving Las Vegas" style.

Yes. This is a bitch ass pussy cry for help. I'm desperate for someone to give me some reason not to fucking drink myself to death.

I'm sorry.

This guy has been helping me recently. He just got out of prison after doing 10 years:

https://player.vimeo.com/video/348432188
07-30-2019 10:31 AM
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(07-30-2019 08:12 AM)etwsake Wrote:  Gentlemen, this isn't the first time I've written a message like this and I can probably promise it won't be the last.

I can't apologize enough for being such a bitch.

I haven't had a drink in 4 years and 3 months. Not a drop.

But I'm so depressed right now it's all I think about. With my high blood pressure and sleep apnea, it wouldn't take much to start a chain reaction that will leave me dead of a heart attack. I've been fantasizing about it all day. Just downing an entire bottle of whiskey in one long drag, like Bluto in "Animal House." And then just keep going. Just keep going til I stop "Leaving Las Vegas" style.

Yes. This is a bitch ass pussy cry for help. I'm desperate for someone to give me some reason not to fucking drink myself to death.

I'm sorry.

Drinking will 100% exasperate your depression. It is a depressant after all. The only periods of my life where I was suffering from a depressive state were in my later years of alcohol abuse. I believe the booze was the solitary reason I had those feelings.

If you are dealing with long term depression besides getting therapy, there are other lifestyle changes that can positively improve your outlook. I believe there are threads on this.

Never forget the temptation to drink is purely psychological. Despite how long you have been sober, and congratulations on 4 years as that is a long time, you still have a deeply rooted relationship with alcohol. The devil who wants you to drink is still lurking in the back of your subconscious so to speak, and he will probably always be there. Every former alcoholic fights that, and in moments of weakness, it is easy to give in and resort to booze to take away the pain.

As far as actionable advice, I would reach out to a friend or family member who could sit down and talk to you about your problems, as maybe having someone to talk to will help you manage these immediate booze cravings.

Additionally, you should get some perspective on your situation. I would encourage you to visit an emergency room or volunteer with people with serious physical and mental disabilities. As bad as your situation is, it might help to expose yourself to people who are going through difficulties that are hard to believe. You might start to realize that the problems you have, as serious as they might be, are much more manageable than what other people are dealing with.

You must stay strong on this and if it helps sit down and write out what is bothering you with your life that is causing this depression or the need to drink. I am sure you can fix some of the things on your list. Ask yourself were you happier being a drunk as compared to these last few sober years. Challenge yourself to imagine what kind of person you want to be in 1 or 5 years time and what you need to do to become the ideal future you. I am sure there are more questions you can ask yourself, but its important to write down what’s wrong, what you want to accomplish going forward and see what actionable steps you can make going forward to be happier.

Also, I want to clarify, I took your comment "drink myself to death" as hyperbolic and based my response on someone that was temporarily depressed and looking to get drunk as a cure. If you wrote "drink myself to death" as a literal cry for help that you want to end your life please seek professional help.

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07-30-2019 10:57 PM
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RE: 1 Year Drinking Wagon Challenge for 2014
Thank you. Very good advice, Bacon.

I finally managed to sleep a bit and had a pretty horrendous nightmare, but it actually put things into perspective upon waking.

So I'll keep going. It's a new day. "One day at a time," right?
07-30-2019 11:34 PM
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RE: 1 Year Drinking Wagon Challenge for 2014
(07-30-2019 11:34 PM)etwsake Wrote:  Thank you. Very good advice, Bacon.

I finally managed to sleep a bit and had a pretty horrendous nightmare, but it actually put things into perspective upon waking.

So I'll keep going. It's a new day. "One day at a time," right?

I certainly spent a lot of years experimenting (through the bottle) to find a problem that alcohol would actually solve. You know how that goes. Someone I think said on this forum... you don't really drink because you have problems, you have problems because you are drinking. So it is.

Glad you found yourself in a better frame of mind. The voice and pull is always there as Bacon said... hang in there.
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World Health Organization Wrote:Health consequences

In 2012, about 3.3 million net deaths, or 5.9% of all global deaths, were attributable to alcohol consumption.

There are significant sex differences in the proportion of global deaths attributable to alcohol, for example, in 2012 7.6% of deaths among males and 4% of deaths among females were attributable to alcohol.

In 2012 139 million net DALYs (disability-adjusted life years), or 5.1% of the global burden of disease and injury, were attributable to alcohol consumption.

There is also wide geographical variation in the proportion of alcohol-attributable deaths and DALYs, with the highest alcohol-attributable fractions reported in the WHO European Region.

Some staggering statistics. Imagine what a global war with a 5.9% KIA rate would look like.
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Haven’t posted on this forum for a while but had to drop by here for a post — August 5 2015 was my first day of not drinking so today marks four years for me

Very grateful to lizard for starting this thread as it was what motivated me to quit, life is a million times better now that I am sober. Very busy with work, family life is going well and although I have had some ups and downs with dating girls, I always stay optimistic that I’ll eventually find the one, LOL.

Hope each and every one of you who is on the wagon all the luck in the world, and if anyone new ever wants to reach out, feel free to send me a PM!

“One day at a time”
08-05-2019 11:15 AM
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Oops forgot to say. Will go for year five now
08-05-2019 01:36 PM
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(07-21-2019 12:23 AM)N°6 Wrote:  As of 13 July 2019, I’m on the wagon.

As recommended in this thread I read Allen Carr’s Easy Way which covers how we hamster for alcohol. I also attended an 8-hour Allen Carr seminar, which I recommend. The facilitator explains red pill truths about alcohol and the cost - risks - benefits of it. The seminar is based on appealing to people’s reasoning and it’s hard to justify taking it.

At the end of the seminar I felt that I had just been told that someone I had a lifetime relationship with, whom I went nearly everywhere with was not my friend but a secret saboteur. Like Sharon Stone’s character as Quaid’s wife in Total Recall. Everything was ok when Quaid was ignorant and the loving pretence was the order of the domestic bliss. But when he realised there was a problem his wife became nasty.

There were more women than men at the seminar. They shed a lot of tears. Prosecco and wine drinking at home is women’s problem. This was an eye opener.

I’ve seen Allen Carr seminars half price on groupon.

N°6, thank you for the post. Are you in for a full year as of July 13, 2019?

same old shit, sixes and sevens Shaft...
08-12-2019 07:15 PM
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(08-05-2019 11:15 AM)komatiite Wrote:  Haven’t posted on this forum for a while but had to drop by here for a post — August 5 2015 was my first day of not drinking so today marks four years for me

Very grateful to lizard for starting this thread as it was what motivated me to quit, life is a million times better now that I am sober. Very busy with work, family life is going well and although I have had some ups and downs with dating girls, I always stay optimistic that I’ll eventually find the one, LOL.

Hope each and every one of you who is on the wagon all the luck in the world, and if anyone new ever wants to reach out, feel free to send me a PM!

“One day at a time”
(08-05-2019 01:36 PM)komatiite Wrote:  Oops forgot to say. Will go for year five now

4 years already... I wouldn't say that the time has flown -- not at all -- but it certainly hasn't crawled, either; one might say that it has rolled along steadily with each turn of the wagon's wheels. 4 years is a really nice milestone; not as glamorous as bacon's recent 5 but a very, very solid one. I'm so happy that you made the right and necessary decision back in the deep summer of 2015, and have stuck with it. You know now that it has paid off -- and will keep paying off as long as you do your part.

Welcome back aboard for year 5 as of August 5, 2019 and I look forward to hearing more from you here as time goes on.

same old shit, sixes and sevens Shaft...
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