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Thanks for the kind words of support guys. Tonight of course being NYE there's plenty of temptation to go out and I've had to turn down a couple of invites but honestly it wasn't that difficult as it's freezing cold outside and I have absolutely no desire to be stuck out in the cold waiting for taxis and and to get into a bar.

Basically, I got bored of drinking in the past couple of years and the ROI just isn't there anymore, especially dealing with the terrible hangovers and lack of productivity that come along with them. Also, as someone who really enjoyed night life, drinking, meeting new people, etc, it just isn't the same anymore. Back when I began drinking and going out in the late 90s we could smoke in bars and people were really social, it was one of the only ways to meet new people. Now in 2019, the bars and clubs aren't so fun anymore; people are glued to their smart phones, staying at home watching Netflix and they have dating apps to meet new people.

Looking forward to waking up feeling good tomorrow and continuing to get shit done in 2019, happy new year's guys.

God damned them all, I was told we'd cruise the seas for American gold, we'd fire no guns-shed no tears, now I'm a broken man on a Halifax pier, the last of Barrett's privateers!
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Well I completed my full year without drinking. I definitely made progress towards my life goals, saved a lot of money and found that I can navigate the majority of social situations fine without a drink in my hand.

That said, while I expect I will severely cut down on my drinking compared to what I did before my year off, I'm not going to eliminate it entirely. The social opportunity cost is high.

I'll closely watch myself and if I find that drinking impacts my goals or relationships in a significant way I will abstain again.

I'd like to thank everyone here for their support and wish you all well with your own abstentions.
01-01-2019 03:17 AM
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I have stopped about three months ago.

It gradually became bigger and bigger. The after-work pint was a must. Squeezed in the third one, "one for the road", in a hurry. Saturday afternoons - pilgrimage to the pub. "Just to wind down".

Productivity: zero. Extracurricular activities: nil.

Bartenders and other drinkers became my "friends".

When drunk, I usually became the friendliest person in the world. No aggro, no violence. Oversharing, inviting strangers to rounds of drinks, revealing private details about myself. Next day I was frightfully embarrassed. How can I un-do what happened last night? "Oh, don't worry, it was a great evening, you are so nice when you are drunk", people said.

Stopping wasn't easy. What to do with my "free" time? What do drink, when at an event?

Fast forward to today: I never want to go backwards, not even one step.

"But does that mean you will NEVER drink again", ask "worried" friends. "Surely ONE drink is fine", they hope.

No.
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Reading posts about the loss of productivity, vitality and accomplishments because of drinking reminds me of the claim that the etymology of alcohol is from the Arabic al-khul via the vitality sucking ghoul of medieval lore.

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01-01-2019 09:59 AM
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It is more that people are productive d e s p i t e of alcohol.

Craig Beck has written a great book by the way.
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Greetings All and Happy 2019,

I did a one-year wagon here a couple of years back. Ready to do it again. Please count me in for a wagon year starting today, 1/1/2019.
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Count me in also for 2019.

I had like 8 beers in 2018. Looking to cut it to zero for 2019.
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Me too, starting from 01/01/2019 just after midnight!

This is one of the only New Years ever I drank so little (just one last beer before 12 and a glass of champagne at midnight).
The thing is I had a lot of fun, socializing without alcohol. Seems like nobody really cares that much as long as you have fun.
The curious questions I will get why I don't drink I won't mind, I used to be that person.

Excited for this journey!
A happy New Year guys, that all your goals may come reality!
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3 years today for me fellas. Take the challenge, you won't regret it!
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A small mental shift that may help you

Instead of telling yourself 'I DONT drink alcohol'

replace it with 'I ONLY drink....insert non-alcoholic drink here'

If going out at night and avoiding booze, Ill tell myself I am only drinking water on the rocks with lime.
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Been 6.5 months here now.

The first 3 months were easy- I was pleasantly distracted with travel. I even lost about 15 pounds during that time.

The second three months I've probably experienced some of the worst depression and suicidality in my life. The lack of alcohol doesnt bother me- I've even come to enjoy socialising without it.
It has however, revealed an all-pervasive and devastating emptiness and boredom with life: I have no hobbies and very few friendships (although good, long lasting ones). I can't even be bothered to read- probably the one thing that has provided me with solace over the years.

I seem to have a severe anxiety problem that I did not learn healthy ways of dealing with as a child/teenager. Video games, porn, religion, smoking, excess caffeine, gambling, whoremongery, alcoholism, overeating, overdieting, overworking, overexercising- I've been through them all. Alcohol was always the biggest culprit; breaking me down and dragging me back to the others. It was pleasurable at first: you drink two beers and your anxieties go away: EASY! GIMME! A few years down the line and the only "relief" you get is when you finally black out and fall down.

This explains why I hated my otherwise lucrative career so much- If you're not enjoying your life and if you have no responsibilities then why work? Why take the pains of getting up early to go and deal with the innumerable amount of sleights and strains of corporate life if there's no link between a paycheck and continued enjoyment of life?

What kind of woman mentally-ill woman would enter a long-term relationship with the man described in the above two paragraphs?

I'm only 32 years old but I fear I've left it too late to do the work. Too many injuries to get back into the gym, too many blackouts to deal with stress. The wagon alone isnt going to solve my shit but how does one otherwise proceed to recover, short from reversing time?
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(01-02-2019 01:28 AM)pirate Wrote:  I'm only 32 years old but I fear I've left it too late to do the work. Too many injuries to get back into the gym, too many blackouts to deal with stress. The wagon alone isnt going to solve my shit but how does one otherwise proceed to recover, short from reversing time?

You're never too old brother and its not too late at all. In time without the alcohol, you will learn how to fix the injuries (I've fixed some bad ones myself and kill it in the gym now, couldn't run or squat at 30yrs old), and deal with the stress. You're right the wagon alone may not be enough, but the time it gives you back will be enough for you to solve these problems. Your issues sound similar to mine, and things really started opening up for me by year 2. You seem like a smart lad and I'm confident in saying if you stick with this challenge you'll figure these things out. Devise a life mission, a personal code, and specific life area goals to get started.

As a matter of fact, if you PM me maybe I can learn more about your injuries and help you come up with some strategies to fix them. I have fixed a pair of bad knees and sciatica that I had for over 2 years. I'm heavily involved in weight lifting and brazilian jiu jitsu so injury prevention and healing is one of my specialties these days.
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I am in! Wagon start date is today, Jan. 2, 2019.

Just got back from the lab to get a blood draw. Ordered a hormone panel (T, Free T, and SHBG). Curious to see how cutting out the massive amounts of alcohol I've been consuming for years will impact these numbers, as alcohol is known to destroy T levels. Will re-test hormone levels in a year at the end of the wagon.

Fear I'll fail? Anxiety at having to navigate life sober? Yes to both. But the time has clearly come for me. The benefits were long ago outweighed by the negatives, so I'm ready and looking forward to a productive year.

Good luck to all.
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(01-01-2019 03:17 AM)Speculation Wrote:  Well I completed my full year without drinking. I definitely made progress towards my life goals, saved a lot of money and found that I can navigate the majority of social situations fine without a drink in my hand.

That said, while I expect I will severely cut down on my drinking compared to what I did before my year off, I'm not going to eliminate it entirely. The social opportunity cost is high.

I'll closely watch myself and if I find that drinking impacts my goals or relationships in a significant way I will abstain again.

I'd like to thank everyone here for their support and wish you all well with your own abstentions.

Speculation, congrats on completing the 1 year wagon. It's a real achievement and something you should take some serious satisfaction in. +1 rep point from me.

Like you said, watch how drinking treats you in the months to come, and if it's not going the way you'd like it to, you can reevaluate your current decision.

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(01-01-2019 11:07 AM)DTD309 Wrote:  Greetings All and Happy 2019,

I did a one-year wagon here a couple of years back. Ready to do it again. Please count me in for a wagon year starting today, 1/1/2019.

DTD309, that's good to hear -- I've wondered at times about how you were doing, and was hoping to see this post.

Welcome aboard as of January 1, 2019 and I look forward to hearing more from you in this thread as time goes on.

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(01-01-2019 02:58 PM)Kentemo Wrote:  Me too, starting from 01/01/2019 just after midnight!

This is one of the only New Years ever I drank so little (just one last beer before 12 and a glass of champagne at midnight).
The thing is I had a lot of fun, socializing without alcohol. Seems like nobody really cares that much as long as you have fun.
The curious questions I will get why I don't drink I won't mind, I used to be that person.

Excited for this journey!
A happy New Year guys, that all your goals may come reality!

Kentemo, thanks for confirming your start date. Welcome aboard as of January 2, 2019 and I hope to hear more from you here over time.

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(01-01-2019 06:59 PM)musashi Wrote:  3 years today for me fellas. Take the challenge, you won't regret it!

musashi, congrats on the 3 years, it's a great wagon milestone and one that I always like hearing about. I can only assume from your recent posts here -- which I appreciate and have enjoyed a great deal - that you are renewing for year number 4, but please confirm this if you don't mind and I will be delighted to welcome you back on board. Smile

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(01-02-2019 04:37 PM)JayR Wrote:  I am in! Wagon start date is today, Jan. 2, 2019.

Just got back from the lab to get a blood draw. Ordered a hormone panel (T, Free T, and SHBG). Curious to see how cutting out the massive amounts of alcohol I've been consuming for years will impact these numbers, as alcohol is known to destroy T levels. Will re-test hormone levels in a year at the end of the wagon.

Fear I'll fail? Anxiety at having to navigate life sober? Yes to both. But the time has clearly come for me. The benefits were long ago outweighed by the negatives, so I'm ready and looking forward to a productive year.

Good luck to all.

JayR, thank you for the post. The before and after hormone levels will be of some interest, but please keep in mind that they are just one -- noisy -- data point, especially if you are comparing a single result on a particular date now to a single result on a particular date one year later. Of far more relevance will be your overall sense of health and well-being throughout the entire year: your quality of sleep, your mood and energy, your physical and mental performance, your day-to-day stress levels, and just the way you feel about your life very generally. These are the real indicators that you should be taking stock of a year from today.

Welcome aboard as of January 2, 2019 and I look forward to hearing more from you here as time goes on.

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(12-31-2018 11:48 AM)Wutang Wrote:  I never posted in this thread before, but I actually pledged not to drink for all of 2018 and I'm less than 24 hours from completing the goal. It's actually going to be a bit over a year since I started abstaining in the middle of December of 2017 but the commitment I had made was for all of 2018, not just one year so that's what I stuck to.

My story is different from most of the people's here. I never had any sort of struggle or issue with alcohol. In fact, I was never a big drinker in the first place. What prompted me to take the pledge was me thinking about why exactly I drink when I don't derive the same joy from it that most people do. I can't tell the difference between the types of beer or wine and I find myself always rolling eyes when I hear people talking about IPAs, microbrews, how hoppy a beer is, etc.

So why do I order beers or drinks when I'm out? I believe it's just because I'm following the cultural programming: hey I'm out, there's lots of loud stimulation. A lot of people get alcohol in these environments, so I'll do the same. When I look at it from a cost-benefit analysis, I see that I'm getting very little benefit for the cost of bodily damage. Now, I probably was having no more than 2-3 drinks a month so the damage no where compares to the damage inflicted on a person who goes out drinking regularly on the weekend...but why should I accept even this small amount of damage when I'm deriving little positive feelings out of it? I also drink soda which I enjoy and I accept the affects on my health and waistline because I like having a coke with my fries in the same way someone likes wine with their steak, but why should I accept a similar negative effect for something I don't particularly enjoy consuming?

Having said all that, I was wondering if I should continue being as strict going into 2019 as I was this year. If I'm out with some of my friends and someone offers me a beer, should I go out of my way to decline it in the same way I was this year? I don't think I'm in danger of falling into any sort of bad habit considering that I was never a big drinker even when I imposing any sort of rule of abstinence on myself, but then there's the reasons I gave above. Any thoughts?

(01-01-2019 11:16 AM)Spaniard88 Wrote:  Count me in also for 2019.

I had like 8 beers in 2018. Looking to cut it to zero for 2019.

Wutang and Spaniard88:

As I've noted here from time to time, this thread is for men who commit to a 1 year drinking wagon because they require one; because they've drunk hard enough for long enough that they've started taking on some of the more obvious as well as the more subtle damages that come from going to the well too often -- or may be on the precipice of experiencing these damages and are catching themselves in time. For these men, nothing short of complete abstention will do; not one drop, for any reason, on any occasion, for a full year, through its entire kaleidoscope of moods, seasons and locales. For men like this -- the true hard drinkers -- the wagon is a serious, even a solemn undertaking; and even otherwise strong men will quail at least a little when they face it, as well they should.

Of course anyone is free to take a year off alcohol for any reason or no reason at all. But for men who are essentially non-drinkers, or true moderate drinkers -- as is the case for both of you -- such a decision, whatever its merits, does not have the gravity associated with a real drinker's wagon. I think that it would be best to keep this thread dedicated to its great and indispensable purpose, and to discuss the resolutions made by non-drinkers and true moderate drinkers in a different context.

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(01-02-2019 09:16 PM)The Lizard of Oz Wrote:  Of far more relevance will be your overall sense of health and well-being throughout the entire year: your quality of sleep, your mood and energy, your physical and mental performance, your day-to-day stress levels, and just the way you feel about your life very generally. These are the real indicators that you should be taking stock of a year from today.

Thanks LOZ. Yup, I look forward to experiencing all those glorious benefits, and only hope my aging body can bounce back from the abuse I've inflicted.

I had to go in for a blood draw anyway, and I figured this would be a great opportunity to see just how much alcohol impacts my personal hormone levels. And we all know how important T levels are for man's sex drive, well-being, lots of the very stuff you mention above.

Thanks for creating this thread -- reading through the first 20 pages or so a few weeks ago was one of the factors that got me to commit.
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(01-02-2019 08:58 PM)The Lizard of Oz Wrote:  
(01-01-2019 06:59 PM)musashi Wrote:  3 years today for me fellas. Take the challenge, you won't regret it!

musashi, congrats on the 3 years, it's a great wagon milestone and one that I always like hearing about. I can only assume from your recent posts here -- which I appreciate and have enjoyed a great deal - that you are renewing for year number 4, but please confirm this if you don't mind and I will be delighted to welcome you back on board. Smile

Hey Lizard,

Thank you brother! Without this thread my life would be drastically different at this point. My plan going forward is yes, year 4. My goal is 1 million usd in assets before I hit 5 years. If I don't achieve this goal (I WILL FUCKING ACHIEVE THIS GOAL) I'll continue on the wagon indefinitely until I hit it. Once I go back to drinking my habits will drastically change such as a maximum of only 2 drinks at a time, and only with certain people. So yes to answer your question I'm on day 3 of year 4 Smile.
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(01-03-2019 11:44 AM)musashi Wrote:  
(01-02-2019 08:58 PM)The Lizard of Oz Wrote:  
(01-01-2019 06:59 PM)musashi Wrote:  3 years today for me fellas. Take the challenge, you won't regret it!

musashi, congrats on the 3 years, it's a great wagon milestone and one that I always like hearing about. I can only assume from your recent posts here -- which I appreciate and have enjoyed a great deal - that you are renewing for year number 4, but please confirm this if you don't mind and I will be delighted to welcome you back on board. Smile

Hey Lizard,

Thank you brother! Without this thread my life would be drastically different at this point. My plan going forward is yes, year 4. My goal is 1 million usd in assets before I hit 5 years. If I don't achieve this goal (I WILL FUCKING ACHIEVE THIS GOAL) I'll continue on the wagon indefinitely until I hit it. Once I go back to drinking my habits will drastically change such as a maximum of only 2 drinks at a time, and only with certain people. So yes to answer your question I'm on day 3 of year 4 Smile.

Thank you for confirming. I ascertained that your start date was December 31, so welcome back aboard as of December 31, 2018 and I look forward to hearing more from you here over time.

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Hi there,

I've been considering jumping on the wagon for a long time but kept hesitating because I couldn't figure myself not drinking at all. I think I was afraid. Like other posters here, I've tried moderation many times but failed badly. Once I had a couple of glasses, it seems that I just can't get enough booze.

I've been drinking for more than 25 years now, and it has come to a point where I drink every day, not always too far, fortunately. Alcohol is definitly ruining my sleep, my energy and my peace of mind. I guess it's time for me to quit before things get truly ugly.

I've been sober for a week already, so count me in for the year to come, starting on the 2nd of January.
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(01-09-2019 06:03 AM)Frater Angelico Wrote:  Hi there,

I've been considering jumping on the wagon for a long time but kept hesitating because I couldn't figure myself not drinking at all. I think I was afraid. Like other posters here, I've tried moderation many times but failed badly. Once I had a couple of glasses, it seems that I just can't get enough booze.

I've been drinking for more than 25 years now, and it has come to a point where I drink every day, not always too far, fortunately. Alcohol is definitly ruining my sleep, my energy and my peace of mind. I guess it's time for me to quit before things get truly ugly.

I've been sober for a week already, so count me in for the year to come, starting on the 2nd of January.

Frater Angelico, thank you for this post. As always, I'm deeply honored when a poster makes his first post in this thread, especially when that post is declaring a much needed 1 year wagon.

If you've been drinking very regularly for 25 years, the wagon will be an immense and disorienting change. Especially over the first weeks and months, you are likely to go through a wide range of experiences and emotions, from elation to dejection and back, from sleeping like a baby for the first time in years to an insomnia as bad as any you've had. Just take it all in stride and stick to your guns; things will start normalizing a couple of months in. That's when you'll have to really dig in and simply endure the wagon, until it becomes comprehensible to you as your life.

Through it all, the main thing you will have to remember is very simple: no one can force a drink down your throat, only you can do it -- so it's always up to you. Any moods, emotions, and desires, however intense and seemingly unanswerable, can always be acknowledged and dismissed, each in its own turn. If you just remember this and act accordingly, 2019 will prove to be perhaps the most memorable year of your life, and will put you in a position to have an immeasurably better and more enjoyable life for many years to come.

Welcome aboard as of January 2, 2019 and I look forward to hearing more from you here as time goes on.

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RE: 1 Year Drinking Wagon Challenge for 2014
Forgot to do so earlier so I'll sign myself up for another year as of 10/15/2018.

I am crossing goals off like no tomorrow. I doubled my income last year and im on track to do even better this year. My savings went from literally $0 to 5 figures. Everything is going pretty good for me. There are some parts that I still struggle with but I am excited for what the future holds. A big step from dreading what tomorrow will bring.

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01-11-2019 10:42 AM
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