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RE: 1 Year Drinking Wagon Challenge for 2014
(02-23-2019 01:03 PM)komatiite Wrote:  
(02-22-2019 06:42 PM)Rhyme or Reason Wrote:  I'm about 6 weeks into a wagon and I've had a really tough time since starting this shit. If I'm being honest, I'm pretty fucking over it. I picked up an extra job during my initial pink cloud phase because I was feeling motivated to make extra money, and between my two gigs I've got no spare time and currently no scheduled days off. I'm under more stress than before but have given up my coping mechanism. If life didn't suck so badly, I might have a shot at keeping to a wagon. I'm really fucking anxious all the time. I am grinding my teeth constantly. It's kind of become clear to me now that I've been self medicating with alcohol / other stuff throughout life for a reason. This is some personal shit I'm throwing out there and I am fully aware of that and how it makes me look here. But whatever, if I cannot be honest what's the point?

Hey Man hopefully you feel better today. There’s a certain mental hurdle that everyone who hops on the wagon has gone over — in a way, a guy sort of loses his innocence when he mentally knows he has to quit drinking and makes a Wagon commitment... I knew that by about age 24 and tried several Wagon rides with many failures in between before I finally figured it out. Each time I would fall off the wagon I was so riddled with guilt and shame, and the drinking would always come back with a vengeance until my life would be back all tucked up several months later and I’d try the wagon again.

Lizard is right — jus be patient. I always had the same feelings you describe above at times on the wagon but I promise you that the feeling will pass. It may not be tomorrow and it may not be next week but these feelings will always pass, I can promise you that! Good luck man.

What komatiite says is spot-on and is similar to my own experience. I had this same feeling in my early 20's after several false starts and episodes of binge drinking followed by periods of abstinence.

I can only roughly describe it as a "crisis of faith." You know you that your well-worn drinking habits are not working for you yet you cannot clearly see life without drinking.

I think it is important to occupy yourself and give yourself a chance to experience contentment in some of the more mundane aspects in life. Not all satisfaction derives from intoxication, flashing lights and excitement. Enjoy a bike ride with the wind in your face; do some work around the house listening to music you like; do something. At some point you will say to yourself, "hey, I actually felt happy working on the car in the garage today." The idea is to accumulate experiences like this which will reaffirm the value of the wagon.

It will take some time but it will come. Stay the course.
02-23-2019 05:47 PM
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RE: 1 Year Drinking Wagon Challenge for 2014
What do you guys drink when going out. I honestly like the party scene even when not drinking.
I ordered Coke, but this is even more unhealthier than beer imo.

Yesterday I asked 'wáter with some lemon' but the guy looked at me strangely and said ''we don't have that''.
Probably never gotten that request before. I ended up drinking a redbull (also not healthy).

What's a good drink to order in bars (a part from alcohol free cocktails)???
03-02-2019 02:09 PM
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It's amazing how easy the wagon becomes after the passage of time. It's true that the beginning can be extremely difficult, and it seems like an impossible, insurmountable undertaking. But once you get through the earlier stages and you begin to experience the benefits of the wagon, it becomes pleasurable and satisfying to sit back and patiently wait for the further benefits you instinctively know will follow. Everything in your life begins to fall into place, and it feels like your life has switched to easy mode compared to your pre wagon days. You wake up every morning with a feeling of exhilaration and gratitude, and you look back at your former life with disbelief that you would spend so much of your time and money on something so destructive and depraved. It feels like nothing can get in your way and you can easily overcome anything that life throws in your path.

Unfortunately life isn't so simple. Eventually you'll experience something devastating that you find yourself unequipped to deal with. That's when everything in the previous paragraph gets thrown out the window and means nothing at all. You're now in unchartered territory. As you find yourself overwhelmed by your inability to deal with the situation, you begin to look at your drinking days with nostalgia. You remember with fondness the beautiful hue of the bottle of Jamesons and the satisfying sound of the ice falling into the tumbler as the bartender prepares the usual. You know that succumbing to temptation is a terrible choice and will not end well. But goddamn it would be so easy to walk into a bar and affix a temporary band aid, to experience a few moments of relief.

You know from your earlier experience of the wagon exactly what needs to be done when things get tricky. You know that you shouldn't try to surpress anything you are feeling, but rather acknowledge it and allow time to process your emotions in the stark reality of sobriety. You remember how much stronger you became from navigating much less devastating situations without alcohol, and that if you come out of the other side of this one without raising a glass to your lips, you will be immeasurably stronger.

In such a short space of time, you go from elation towards life to an overwhelming sense of emptiness. But this is the moment to remember that making the conscious and cowardly decision to seek relief in alcohol will only proliferate any current problems you are facing, while making the more courageous decision to face your problems with a clear mind is one you will thank yourself for.
03-02-2019 03:34 PM
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(03-02-2019 02:09 PM)Kentemo Wrote:  What do you guys drink when going out. I honestly like the party scene even when not drinking.
I ordered Coke, but this is even more unhealthier than beer imo.

Yesterday I asked 'wáter with some lemon' but the guy looked at me strangely and said ''we don't have that''.
Probably never gotten that request before. I ended up drinking a redbull (also not healthy).

What's a good drink to order in bars (a part from alcohol free cocktails)???

Club soda, coffee/tea, ice tea (w/o sugar)

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(02-22-2019 06:42 PM)Rhyme or Reason Wrote:  I'm about 6 weeks into a wagon and I've had a really tough time since starting this shit. If I'm being honest, I'm pretty fucking over it. I picked up an extra job during my initial pink cloud phase because I was feeling motivated to make extra money, and between my two gigs I've got no spare time and currently no scheduled days off. I'm under more stress than before but have given up my coping mechanism. If life didn't suck so badly, I might have a shot at keeping to a wagon. I'm really fucking anxious all the time. I am grinding my teeth constantly. It's kind of become clear to me now that I've been self medicating with alcohol / other stuff throughout life for a reason. This is some personal shit I'm throwing out there and I am fully aware of that and how it makes me look here. But whatever, if I cannot be honest what's the point?

Keep on it

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(03-02-2019 04:53 PM)Gmac Wrote:  
(03-02-2019 02:09 PM)Kentemo Wrote:  What do you guys drink when going out. I honestly like the party scene even when not drinking.
I ordered Coke, but this is even more unhealthier than beer imo.

Yesterday I asked 'wáter with some lemon' but the guy looked at me strangely and said ''we don't have that''.
Probably never gotten that request before. I ended up drinking a redbull (also not healthy).

What's a good drink to order in bars (a part from alcohol free cocktails)???

Club soda, coffee/tea, ice tea (w/o sugar)

I met a lady in a bar a few years ago. She had a drink and I had coffee and bottled water.

I guess you can do orange juice or any other fruit juice. It can be mistaken for a screwdriver if you are concerned about drawing attention to yourself not drinking alcohol. Of course it is better to just be upfront and unabashed about not drinking.

After quitting drinking, I have a strong dislike for being in bars. There is just a polluted and dirty feeling to them, with the smell of booze and stale beer.
03-02-2019 06:52 PM
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(03-02-2019 02:09 PM)Kentemo Wrote:  What do you guys drink when going out. I honestly like the party scene even when not drinking.
I ordered Coke, but this is even more unhealthier than beer imo.

Yesterday I asked 'wáter with some lemon' but the guy looked at me strangely and said ''we don't have that''.
Probably never gotten that request before. I ended up drinking a redbull (also not healthy).

What's a good drink to order in bars (a part from alcohol free cocktails)???

Soda with lime.

It's got less calories than tonic water, it looks like a gin and tonic, and it actually tastes pretty bad so you'll be able to nurse it for a while.
03-02-2019 08:25 PM
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(02-22-2019 06:42 PM)Rhyme or Reason Wrote:  I'm about 6 weeks into a wagon and I've had a really tough time since starting this shit. If I'm being honest, I'm pretty fucking over it. I picked up an extra job during my initial pink cloud phase because I was feeling motivated to make extra money, and between my two gigs I've got no spare time and currently no scheduled days off. I'm under more stress than before but have given up my coping mechanism. If life didn't suck so badly, I might have a shot at keeping to a wagon. I'm really fucking anxious all the time. I am grinding my teeth constantly. It's kind of become clear to me now that I've been self medicating with alcohol / other stuff throughout life for a reason. This is some personal shit I'm throwing out there and I am fully aware of that and how it makes me look here. But whatever, if I cannot be honest what's the point?

It will and probably has passed since you wrote this. I’m not patronizing you but 6 weeks isn’t that long. Keep going you’ll be ok and your life will improve beyond your imagination
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RE: 1 Year Drinking Wagon Challenge for 2014
Passed the 3 month/90 day mark yesterday and also was tested a fair but with social pressure to drink when going out with a hard partying client here in Asia...a baller type dude who I have gotten shitfaced with many times in the past. Letting everyone know my last Liver test was not all that great (actually true) had them back off from pressuring to just have one beer or a whiskey soda.

Temptation to have a drink was there, but not overwhelmingly so that I needed to remove myself from the party. Waking up this morning not hungover was a very good feeling...better than any other morning over the last 3 months.

Not much else to report, but have noticed more mental clarity lately, much better sleep overall and if I can stay motivated I am getting more work accomplished.
03-11-2019 09:00 PM
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I ended up breaking my wagon today/yesterday. It all started in a party hostel with a girl. I thought I deserved a beer, rationalized it. Was happy about it, ended up having the worst night in a long long time while spending a week worth of money in one day. If this isn't a sign, I don't know what is.

I'm back on the wagon from 20 March 2019. I'll keep this misstep in mind as well.
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