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RE: Modern science is bullshit
(12-19-2013 05:54 PM)Slim Shady Wrote:  I think you need to rephrase it as modern MEDICAL science and Allopathy is very sketchy. Stuff done in the field of Physics is very much not bullshit.

When it comes to science, I don't think we'll ever get a truly objective answer on questions such as intelligence when it comes race or gender and the like. Not only are there too many variables to control for but issues like that are simply too controversial and hits close to home for pretty much everyone. I think it's pretty much near impossible for any human being to be completely objective when doing research on these sort of questions.

Physics and mathematics is a completely different issue. Not only are the standards much more rigorous but by the vary nature of these subjects it is a lot more clear when a hypothesis is on the right track and when it isn't. Plus a lot of the questions physics and math answers doesn't really have a human interest element so peoples personal feelings on a matter won't have as much of an effect when it comes to distorting the truth. Compare this to the biological and social sciences (ie. psychology) where a lot the questions DO have a human element that is threatening to many of the beliefs held sacred by many people whether the belief be religious or secular in nature.

For an example of what I'm talking about, recall the recent clamor over the results those psych experiments where it was claimed that poverty makes you stupid rather then the other way around. Progressive rushed to jump for joy over what they saw as a vindication of their world view while people on the opposite side of the political spectrum did the opposite. I'm not making any judgement about whether the conclusion of these experiments were indeed correct but just using it as an illustration of how emotions and personal human interests often cloud scientific results.
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12-20-2013 03:45 PM
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RE: Modern science is bullshit
The 5-a-day fruit and vegetable health advice is another piece of hyperbole which needs debunking.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/food/a...xpert.html
12-20-2013 08:09 PM
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RE: Modern science is bullshit
The Economist magazine recently had this article ("What's Wrong With Science") about how the high profile science journals (Nature, Science, Cell) distort the idea of quality in research by treating science like a "branding" activity. A very good read. Here is the link:

http://www.economist.com/blogs/babbage/2...ng-science

While I wouldn't go so far as to say "modern science is bullshit", it is true that we need to be mindful of the face that science is a human activity, and is subject to the same prejudices, errors, and foibles as any other.

Science is a tool, not a religion. Unfortunately, in our modern world, the Industrial Revolution and the Age of Reason had the effect of elevating science to the status of a secular religion.


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I like how this forum and their members have more critical thinking than the biggest newspaper around the world.

I believe strongly that scientists always have an agenda. I personally know some scientists who got published in major scientific magazines. I've discussed with them many times, for over 10 years, about their ideas. Like anyone, they have an hypothesis, and they will only search for evidence that prove their hypothesis, and disregard all other evidences. They have a point of view. For instance, if the guy is a manboob, his brain will completly censor and disregard everything he reads that proves women are bitches. You wouldn't believe all the mental constructions their brains make to avoid being hurt by the truth.
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