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RE: Bangkok Datasheet 2014.
(01-14-2015 04:38 AM)RioNomad Wrote:  Appearance is the most important attribute.

Bangkok isn't a dirt poor city filled with farm girls eating bugs like people who have never been here before think.

Duration of stay will matter a lot as well for the better looking girls, but the better looking girls aren't online for the most part anyways.

I am not a bad looking guy although I am a dark skinned black guy. Not sure if that may affect the interests as well. Considering that Elcid had 68 messages in the first four hours and I have had zero in 24 hours, maybe... But no matter, once I hit the ground I will do some work.
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RE: Bangkok Datasheet 2014.
(01-14-2015 02:52 AM)Fury Wrote:  
(01-12-2015 10:25 AM)elcidcampeador Wrote:  I've just started prepping for BKK, and have already made the mistake of pipelining way too early. I signed up for TF 4 hours ago and have 64 messages in my inbox. Oh wait, now 68. This is too easy. I'm not going to even start on Tinder until I arrive.

Do these girls actually all end up wanting to meet up? Or is there a high flake factor.

I also have a whole bunch of 16 and 17 year olds 'showing interest'. Is this a common thing in Thailand?

Wow, I also just started TF yesterday and 0 messages and 0 interest. Guess the ladies are not quite feeling me.

I had no luck at all with TF either before and during my recent six weeks trip in Thailand.
I don't know what the people who get lots of unsolicited mails from girls there do with their profile, but with my best photo - one that had been getting lots of likes and occasional initiated messages from girls here in Bulgaria - I could barely even get responses from the girls, age 18 to 30+, I contacted (I'm 38 myself, in good shape and with a casual, slightly rugged look).
A little back and forth messaging with a few girls, but it fizzled out very quickly (text/message game is something I usually consider one of my strengths, but it obviously takes quite a bit of adapting when chatting with girls with weak or mediocre English skills).

The online tool that unexpectedly turned out to work for me was one I had almost forgotten I had installed on my phone, Blendr. Which apparently uses the same database as Badoo, so I was getting a good amount of messages and replies from girls who were using Badoo and ended up banging several - including two short term relationships - and had others who wanted to meet, but logistics got in the way.
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RE: Bangkok Datasheet 2014.
The more i read in this thread the more I wanna go back. I have friends and family there which is also a plus. Gonna have my mum teach me some thai.
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01-14-2015 09:23 AM
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RE: Bangkok Datasheet 2014.
(01-14-2015 08:37 AM)Fury Wrote:  I am not a bad looking guy although I am a dark skinned black guy. Not sure if that may affect the interests as well. Considering that Elcid had 68 messages in the first four hours and I have had zero in 24 hours, maybe... But no matter, once I hit the ground I will do some work.

I'm not the world's most attractive guy either, although I'm guessing I'm better than a lot of what they're used to on these websites. I'm still 2 weeks out from my visit so I haven't even tried to get them out from behind their computers. Have about 30 line ID's. I basically have just started answering 'Hey, this site sucks, can I have your ID' so I don't have to pay.


**Also, I'm going to book an apartment today since the 30% off Airbnb code expires tonight. I'm looking at apartments around/between Soi Thong Lo and Sukhumvit 63. Is there any difference between the two in terms of convenience or should I just book the best looking place?
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(01-14-2015 04:54 AM)Afarang Wrote:  Free accounts don't get the reach they used too. Paid accounts get put on the front of the searches.I assume elcidcampeador has a paid membership.

I don't -- I think this was just because I joined and left the window open from 10p-2a on a Friday (or a Saturday). Probably a lot of volume at this time period. Maybe I will join, but the site sucks to actually use.
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RE: Bangkok Datasheet 2014.
(01-14-2015 08:37 AM)Fury Wrote:  I am not a bad looking guy although I am a dark skinned black guy. Not sure if that may affect the interests as well. Considering that Elcid had 68 messages in the first four hours and I have had zero in 24 hours, maybe... But no matter, once I hit the ground I will do some work.

Sorry to break this for you but skin color means a lot in Thailand and in Asia. Black skin is considered bad and black people as scary. If you're coming for the one purpose of chasing girls you're in the wrong country. Even though it's clubs aimed specifically at Thai girls looking for black guys you will have the odds against you.


(01-14-2015 12:55 PM)elcidcampeador Wrote:  **Also, I'm going to book an apartment today since the 30% off Airbnb code expires tonight. I'm looking at apartments around/between Soi Thong Lo and Sukhumvit 63. Is there any difference between the two in terms of convenience or should I just book the best looking place?

It's one station in between but Ekkamai (soi 63) get more traffic jammed. Look at the distant to the BTS station and also which one looks best. But also in Ekkamai you have the gateway mall.
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(01-14-2015 02:12 PM)Satoshi Wrote:  It's one station in between but Ekkamai (soi 63) get more traffic jammed. Look at the distant to the BTS station and also which one looks best. But also in Ekkamai you have the gateway mall.

Satoshi - thanks for the help. There's a whole bunch of listings (same owner it seems like) on Airbnb for a place called Phromphong. The place is brand new, the apartments are exactly what I'm looking for, and they're dirt cheap. Here's a LINK.

Is this location a killer? An apartment of this quality isn't available on Airbnb for my dates unless I go up into 5* hotel pricing.

EDIT: Went ahead and booked another one that looks good on Soi 63. Fully furnished nice place with rooftop pool right at the connecting road between the two streets. 300$ for a week after a 30% off code and a substantial discount by adding a 7th night. Can't really beat that for BKK.
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RE: Bangkok Datasheet 2014.
(01-14-2015 02:12 PM)Satoshi Wrote:  
(01-14-2015 08:37 AM)Fury Wrote:  I am not a bad looking guy although I am a dark skinned black guy. Not sure if that may affect the interests as well. Considering that Elcid had 68 messages in the first four hours and I have had zero in 24 hours, maybe... But no matter, once I hit the ground I will do some work.

Sorry to break this for you but skin color means a lot in Thailand and in Asia. Black skin is considered bad and black people as scary. If you're coming for the one purpose of chasing girls you're in the wrong country. Even though it's clubs aimed specifically at Thai girls looking for black guys you will have the odds against you.


(01-14-2015 12:55 PM)elcidcampeador Wrote:  **Also, I'm going to book an apartment today since the 30% off Airbnb code expires tonight. I'm looking at apartments around/between Soi Thong Lo and Sukhumvit 63. Is there any difference between the two in terms of convenience or should I just book the best looking place?

It's one station in between but Ekkamai (soi 63) get more traffic jammed. Look at the distant to the BTS station and also which one looks best. But also in Ekkamai you have the gateway mall.

Makes complete sense, this country is so obsessed with being white. I went to buy some soap/lotion and had to do a double take as it was all laced with skin whitening bs. Oh well. I came here for a para-motor pilot course so everything else is just a bonus.
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(01-14-2015 02:42 PM)elcidcampeador Wrote:  EDIT: Went ahead and booked another one that looks good on Soi 63. Fully furnished nice place with rooftop pool right at the connecting road between the two streets. 300$ for a week after a 30% off code and a substantial discount by adding a 7th night. Can't really beat that for BKK.

Awesome location, is the condo called Ceil or Alcove by chance? The location is nice, you are very close to a few clubs and bars. Would love to live there
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(01-14-2015 11:20 PM)Afarang Wrote:  Awesome location, is the condo called Ceil or Alcove by chance? The location is nice, you are very close to a few clubs and bars. Would love to live there

Well the one I mentioned was Alcove, which the guy literally just rejected saying that it was booked already for 2 of the days I wanted.

The 30% off code is about to expire (midnight 1/14) so I just went ahead and booked.....

A smaller one at Ceil for $330 for the week (that had 'instant book'). That pool looks nice, location spectacular, but the place is 30-40m2 at best.
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RE: Bangkok Datasheet 2014.
(01-14-2015 11:12 PM)Fury Wrote:  
(01-14-2015 02:12 PM)Satoshi Wrote:  
(01-14-2015 08:37 AM)Fury Wrote:  I am not a bad looking guy although I am a dark skinned black guy. Not sure if that may affect the interests as well. Considering that Elcid had 68 messages in the first four hours and I have had zero in 24 hours, maybe... But no matter, once I hit the ground I will do some work.

Sorry to break this for you but skin color means a lot in Thailand and in Asia. Black skin is considered bad and black people as scary. If you're coming for the one purpose of chasing girls you're in the wrong country. Even though it's clubs aimed specifically at Thai girls looking for black guys you will have the odds against you.


(01-14-2015 12:55 PM)elcidcampeador Wrote:  **Also, I'm going to book an apartment today since the 30% off Airbnb code expires tonight. I'm looking at apartments around/between Soi Thong Lo and Sukhumvit 63. Is there any difference between the two in terms of convenience or should I just book the best looking place?

It's one station in between but Ekkamai (soi 63) get more traffic jammed. Look at the distant to the BTS station and also which one looks best. But also in Ekkamai you have the gateway mall.

Makes complete sense, this country is so obsessed with being white. I went to buy some soap/lotion and had to do a double take as it was all laced with skin whitening bs. Oh well. I came here for a para-motor pilot course so everything else is just a bonus.

Fury, if you're a well dressed young black man from the anglo world then you will be able to do okay through cold approach in real life. You may have to work a little harder than white men, but you can still get good results. I have a black Swedish friend in BKK, and he does extremely well for himself through night-club cold approach (he does speak fluent Thai though which obviously helps). In my experience, Thai tend to be racist in theory, but actually take individuals as they find them.
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I have landed in Bangkok for a few days. If anyone wants to meet up, let me know.
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^^Lucky you ,tell us how the trip went later =)
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RE: Bangkok Datasheet 2014.
For sake of accuracy, here is a screenshot of 'Page 1' of my 'Interested in me' page on Thai friendly:

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One will get plenty of messages/interest from girls like this.

Some cuties there, but for the most part though I wouldn't bang/chase unless I was drunk and in a club. I don't go out with the purpose of trying to get girls like these (though I'll take a couple when it's closing time)

I'd honestly only initiate conversation with one of them (bottom row, second from left). (Though I'd bang three more if it was laid out on the table)

I'm not sharing this to be a big baller (because I'm not). And we must take into account my personal taste (I don't go for 'cute' girls so that may rule some out where others would like them. The reverse also being true in their circumstance)

But for the sake of calibration, the permanent RVF members in Bangkok are not talking about these girls when we share stories of conquest.
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Is it just me or do others on this forum think the BTS/MRT is completely overrated. I constantly read posts on here advising an apartment/Condo for a longer stay, on the BTS line; eg (On nut). It's usually overcrowded; A/C is always set way to cold; it stops running at midnight; and you can't buy a pass that allows you to use MRT/BTS/Rail Link. Most of us aren't students anymore (a lot of us probably drive sports cars back home) and we have passed the point of using badly run and organized public transportation. After 8 months of living in BK, I realized I need my own transportation. I now own a car and a motorbike, but I started with a scooter. Having your own transportation doesn't mean you can't use taxis or the BTS/MRT but it opens up your options tremendously, especially at night. You can also find a cheaper Apt/Condo/house if you are off the BTS/MRT line.
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RE: Bangkok Datasheet 2014.
This depends on your lifestyle and needs.

For some People the BTS/MRT has no advantages and for others the own car is useless.

Most of the times I use a cab, but at certain times I am rather squeezed in the skytrain for 20 minute then being stuck in the traffic for 60 minutes.
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RE: Bangkok Datasheet 2014.
When I first visited Bangkok there was no BTS or MRT.
Trust me, they are a wonderful thing, whether you use them or use the roads that are less overloaded.
Bangkok was like Jakarta is now. I remember taking 2 hours to go 5 kms.
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RE: Bangkok Datasheet 2014.
Nice report.

But please note that Thai are only good if you are younger yourself.
For men above 50 Thai girls think you "need it hard".
Thai girls play simple girl but they are moneywise number 1.
Same counts for the girls on internet or girls in disco's.

My brother lives is Hua Hin and I try to escape as fast as possible from BKK airport to Cambodia. But both my brother and I they already drugged with a type that erases youre memory.
It does not help you in Thailand that you are friendly and respectfull.

so be verry carefully and don't beleive the storries you can take a minor girl or drugs. You can do but it costs you 20.000 dollar bribe and if you don't have that money you get a dirty jail.

For me a 20+ in Asia looks like a pre-teen girl in Holland.
And I like to take just a beer and look to girls in a bikini club without the need to take a girl.
Thats what I like in Thailand.

But again except only CLOSED drinking bottles!!!

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(01-16-2015 04:39 AM)Pinoy lover Wrote:  Nice report.

But please note that Thai are only good if you are younger yourself.
For men above 50 Thai girls think you "need it hard".
Thai girls play simple girl but they are moneywise number 1.
Same counts for the girls on internet or girls in disco's.

My brother lives is Hua Hin and I try to escape as fast as possible from BKK airport to Cambodia. But both my brother and I they already drugged with a type that erases youre memory.
It does not help you in Thailand that you are friendly and respectfull.

so be verry carefully and don't beleive the storries you can take a minor girl or drugs. You can do but it costs you 20.000 dollar bribe and if you don't have that money you get a dirty jail.

For me a 20+ in Asia looks like a pre-teen girl in Holland.
And I like to take just a beer and look to girls in a bikini club without the need to take a girl.
Thats what I like in Thailand.

But again except only CLOSED drinking bottles!!!

Jan Netherlands

Those drugs that erase your memory must have had some long term effects on you.
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(01-16-2015 12:00 AM)Kamaki4 Wrote:  Is it just me or do others on this forum think the BTS/MRT is completely overrated. I constantly read posts on here advising an apartment/Condo for a longer stay, on the BTS line; eg (On nut). It's usually overcrowded; A/C is always set way to cold; it stops running at midnight; and you can't buy a pass that allows you to use MRT/BTS/Rail Link. Most of us aren't students anymore (a lot of us probably drive sports cars back home) and we have passed the point of using badly run and organized public transportation. After 8 months of living in BK, I realized I need my own transportation. I now own a car and a motorbike, but I started with a scooter. Having your own transportation doesn't mean you can't use taxis or the BTS/MRT but it opens up your options tremendously, especially at night. You can also find a cheaper Apt/Condo/house if you are off the BTS/MRT line.

I've only spent three weeks in Bangkok but I suspect my opinion would be the same even if I lived there for months or years - I love the BTS (I lived 100 meters behind Terminal 21 most of my time there).
Fast and efficient for reaching many of the destinations I go to daily or regularly, crowding is as far as I'm concerned bearable most hours of the day without having to being physically pressed up against other passengers (I'm usually not a big fan of crowds, but I am used to a lifetime of mostly using public transportation in Europe - and I'm many years past my student days), and the air con is more refreshing than a cold beer after walking around for a while in the heat.
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RE: Bangkok Datasheet 2014.
Even living a few hundred meters from the sky train is too far anyway. By the time you get there you're dripping in sweat.

I would say it's definitely handy to be within a few steps of it, but then again there are a lot of places it won't get you to and the service stops before midnight. However, if you can get a nice apartment somewhere away from the sky train for much cheaper rent I would go with that option and spend the money you save on rent to take taxis. It's a much more comfortable option (and very affordable compared to the western world), even with the traffic. If you plan on living in Bangkok for a long time, buy a bike.
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RE: Bangkok Datasheet 2014.
I interpreted the advice on being near a BTS station not primarily being for one's own convenience, but rather for the convenience of the girls coming over to 'watch a movie'.

I think that's the reason most of us with any kind of money aren't staying in one of BKKs numerous affordable 5* hotels.
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The furthest I've ever been from the MRT is when I lived across the street from Major Rachayothin and Tuk Chang on Phahon Yothin. It was about a 15 minute walk to the MRT but it was pleasant enough walk.

I usually picked apartments about a 5-10 minute walk from the MRT (MRT beats the BTS in my opinion). They're cheaper than apartments right on the line and I can get a motorbike taxi for 10 baht if I'm too lazy to walk. I never had much of a problem with sweat either, I'm used to the heat.

If I'm bringing a girl home I get a taxi, rarely more than 100 baht if traffic isn't absurdly bad, so the cheaper room pays for it and then some.

I am still a student though, so I get those pretty green MRT and BTS passes.
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BTS is great. Sometimes it can be busy inside the train but I mean you don't to anything but still stand so for me I don't really care if it's full of people or empty.

Having your own transportation is great but does come with problems. Cars are way too expensive and as expats it's probably not a viable option. Scooters are great but way too dangerous. I see motsi drivers drinking around 7pm as they are on work and as the night gets darker more and more people drink and drive. If you live in the center of Bangkok like me you are also prone to shakedowns from the cops. Some travel insurance does not cover motorcycles either.

I lived in Pahon Youtin before and I was 15mins from a MRT. While I enjoyed my time there I hardly left the area because I was too lazy to walk to the MRT and the traffic at peak times was so intense that I could not get a taxi. If I ever went into the middle of Bangkok I felt like I should stay there for a few hours and make the most of it as I will be paying 150+150 baht taxi to get there and back.


Now I live in Thong Lo and I seldom catch anything as I can walk to most places of interest, or ill catch a bus for 5 baht to take me down either end of Sukhumvit.

This is just my opinion on it.
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RE: Bangkok Datasheet 2014.
I believe Afarang, iop890, and myself, lived in the exact area on Pahonyothin. I really liked the area, foreigners were a bit more rare than the other expat areas and it gave me a chance to practice Thai more. I was also able to learn the bus system, (basically any bus stopped in front of Tuk Chang headed towards Central Ladprao would take me to the MRT).
For 12 baht (air conditioned) it was pretty entertaining and fast as hell. I do agree with Afarang tho, since that area is about 4-5 years from getting the BTS, there is a traffic problem. Some days I would feel really lazy to leave the area and it did feel like a chore at times. It was fast getting to RCA since I was 2 minutes from Ratchadadipsek and I also enjoyed JJ market/ JJ green for chilled out weekends.

Not that it was too bad (IMO), but when you live in an area that isn't directly on the BTS/MRT, you do appreciate it more, especially during peak times. So no, I don't think its overrated at all. Also with Bangkok's climate I also appreciate the cold AC on the trains.

Here's a map of the future plans for Bangkoks Mass transit. Looks really good, but the way things work in Thailand the reality of it might be quite a few decades away.


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