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Scorpion writes: [begin quote] which honestly doesn't take more than 3-4 hours a week if you know what you're doing. I have never met a single guy with a nice-looking natural physique who said, "I was better off in life with less muscle." [end quote] But the same argument applies to other areas of self-improvement. I have never met a guy who speaks several foreign languages say he wished he only spoke his native language. Never met a guy who can play several musical instruments who wished he couldn't. Etc, etc. Stupid strawman argument. 3-4 hours is still 3-4 hours and has to be justified by payoff on time, effort and money expended.
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you may not believe that but if you have too much muscles girls will call you fat.
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(08-08-2019 11:34 AM)Paig3 Wrote:  you may not believe that but if you have too much muscles girls will call you fat.

do the pros you used to fuck back in EE called you fat ?
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Why don't we stop wasting our time and just go hit some chest. Weightlifting has diminishing returns as you progress, ie newbie gains. But attention from girls is quadratic man. Once you get super juicy, you get all the girls.
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(08-08-2019 01:34 PM)Slim Reaper Wrote:  Why don't we stop wasting our time and just go hit some chest. Weightlifting has diminishing returns as you progress, ie newbie gains. But attention from girls is quadratic man. Once you get super juicy, you get all the girls.

oh really? how does Leonardo Dicaprio get all the girls then? Tom Hardy?
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(08-08-2019 01:43 PM)Paig3 Wrote:  
(08-08-2019 01:34 PM)Slim Reaper Wrote:  Why don't we stop wasting our time and just go hit some chest. Weightlifting has diminishing returns as you progress, ie newbie gains. But attention from girls is quadratic man. Once you get super juicy, you get all the girls.

oh really? how does Leonardo Dicaprio get all the girls then? Tom Hardy?

- Leonardo Davinci? That guy didn't get any girls, he took out his frustrations by building tanks and stuff like that.

- Tom Hardy? He saved a girls life and wound up in the friend zone while batman banged her brains out. Tom then took out his frustrations later that night by snapping batman in half like a kit kat bar.
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are you mental?
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(08-08-2019 02:58 PM)Paig3 Wrote:  are you mental?

mentally insane yeah. All these gains made me an animal. Try visiting the gym some time.
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(08-08-2019 03:23 PM)Slim Reaper Wrote:  
(08-08-2019 02:58 PM)Paig3 Wrote:  are you mental?

mentally insane yeah. All these gains made me an animal. Try visiting the gym some time.

thanks man, gym is a part of my life. but high quality chicks don't care if you hit gym or not. you can bang a low-life sloot with muscles, but as soon as you aim at Margot Robbie or Nicole Kidman you'd rather be Leonardo Dicaprio than Alistair Overeem.

That's the way american women are - they like popular men. if your ass is on TV - it doesn't matter if you lift or not.

I'm aiming at highly-educated attractive women and that's how it works there.
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All I'm saying is the chest isn't going to hit itself
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(08-08-2019 03:31 PM)Paig3 Wrote:  thanks man, gym is a part of my life. but high quality chicks don't care if you hit gym or not. you can bang a low-life sloot with muscles, but as soon as you aim at Margot Robbie or Nicole Kidman you'd rather be Leonardo Dicaprio than Alistair Overeem.


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(08-08-2019 01:43 PM)Paig3 Wrote:  
(08-08-2019 01:34 PM)Slim Reaper Wrote:  Why don't we stop wasting our time and just go hit some chest. Weightlifting has diminishing returns as you progress, ie newbie gains. But attention from girls is quadratic man. Once you get super juicy, you get all the girls.

oh really? how does Leonardo Dicaprio get all the girls then? Tom Hardy?

"Guys, how does the most famous actor of his generation, with a nine-figure net worth and who has carefully built a public image as a playboy over two decades get girls? He's not muscular! Haha, see, muscles don't matter!"

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Here's a more legitimate question I haven't seen asked in this thread: is there a point of diminishing returns on working squats/deadlifts/lower body? Most basic strength training routines floating around on the Internet (Starting Strength, 5x5, etc.) put a major emphasis on lower body work.

Obviously you should have some lower body work, but is the optimal amount of lower body work less than what is typically recommended in those basic strength routines? I'm curious what you all think.
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^ I think most guys underestimate the appeal of having a muscular lower body, espcially the glutes. I'm muscular at 6'1 210 lb and I deadlift and squat seriously. I've found that girls are more fascinated by my round and firm butt than my muscular chest/shoulders/arms. Especially since it's rare as most guys have an underdevelopped posterior chain. I've also received many comments when girls put their hand behind my lower back when dancing/flirting as the muscularity create a curve thanks to the deadlift.

Also note that deadlift will develop your traps a lot, probably more than shrugs as they hold the scapulae together in an isometric fashion. The traps are important for aesthetics.
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(08-27-2019 11:17 AM)TheForgottenSoldier Wrote:  ^ I think most guys underestimate the appeal of having a muscular lower body, espcially the glutes. I'm muscular at 6'1 210 lb and I deadlift and squat seriously. I've found that girls are more fascinated by my round and firm butt than my muscular chest/shoulders/arms. Especially since it's rare as most guys have an underdevelopped posterior chain. I've also received many comments when girls put their hand behind my lower back when dancing/flirting as the muscularity create a curve thanks to the deadlift.

Also note that deadlift will develop your traps a lot, probably more than shrugs as they hold the scapulae together in an isometric fashion. The traps are important for aesthetics.

Agree. I think for quick glances in a dark club, bulging upper body parts will be ok, but this thread mentions how being muscular increases your sheer physical presence, and that's hard to do just with upper body. Also, in my very, very limited experience, working the lower body hard gives you a metabolism advantage anyway for the rest of your body, and will certainly up your testosterone levels overall as well.
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(08-27-2019 12:33 PM)Robert High Hawk Wrote:  
(08-27-2019 11:17 AM)TheForgottenSoldier Wrote:  ^ I think most guys underestimate the appeal of having a muscular lower body, espcially the glutes. I'm muscular at 6'1 210 lb and I deadlift and squat seriously. I've found that girls are more fascinated by my round and firm butt than my muscular chest/shoulders/arms. Especially since it's rare as most guys have an underdevelopped posterior chain. I've also received many comments when girls put their hand behind my lower back when dancing/flirting as the muscularity create a curve thanks to the deadlift.

Also note that deadlift will develop your traps a lot, probably more than shrugs as they hold the scapulae together in an isometric fashion. The traps are important for aesthetics.

Agree. I think for quick glances in a dark club, bulging upper body parts will be ok, but this thread mentions how being muscular increases your sheer physical presence, and that's hard to do just with upper body. Also, in my very, very limited experience, working the lower body hard gives you a metabolism advantage anyway for the rest of your body, and will certainly up your testosterone levels overall as well.

^I read somewhere:

"Upper body = aesthetics.
Lower body = dominance."
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(08-26-2019 10:11 PM)josn123 Wrote:  Here's a more legitimate question I haven't seen asked in this thread: is there a point of diminishing returns on working squats/deadlifts/lower body? Most basic strength training routines floating around on the Internet (Starting Strength, 5x5, etc.) put a major emphasis on lower body work.

Obviously you should have some lower body work, but is the optimal amount of lower body work less than what is typically recommended in those basic strength routines? I'm curious what you all think.

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(08-27-2019 04:13 PM)Bienvenuto Wrote:  
(08-27-2019 12:33 PM)Robert High Hawk Wrote:  
(08-27-2019 11:17 AM)TheForgottenSoldier Wrote:  ^ I think most guys underestimate the appeal of having a muscular lower body, espcially the glutes. I'm muscular at 6'1 210 lb and I deadlift and squat seriously. I've found that girls are more fascinated by my round and firm butt than my muscular chest/shoulders/arms. Especially since it's rare as most guys have an underdevelopped posterior chain. I've also received many comments when girls put their hand behind my lower back when dancing/flirting as the muscularity create a curve thanks to the deadlift.

Also note that deadlift will develop your traps a lot, probably more than shrugs as they hold the scapulae together in an isometric fashion. The traps are important for aesthetics.

Agree. I think for quick glances in a dark club, bulging upper body parts will be ok, but this thread mentions how being muscular increases your sheer physical presence, and that's hard to do just with upper body. Also, in my very, very limited experience, working the lower body hard gives you a metabolism advantage anyway for the rest of your body, and will certainly up your testosterone levels overall as well.

^I read somewhere:

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Lower body = dominance."

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I'll tell you something that happened to me. For 12 years I have been powerlifting. The benefits were amazing as I gained muscle and some fat. The confidence that this instilled in me was incalculably a godsend. But then starting a few years ago, I noticed I couldn't gain muscle any longer. Very strange as hell. As a result this hampered my game to a noticeable extent.

Now I'm trying to figure out what's going on and how to fix this. A few weeks ago, I read some info about the negative effects of the shutting down of androgen receptors in the body which are necessary to convert protein to muscle. When these turn off there's no way to build muscle. That's why many bodybuilders who stopped growing become bewildered and confused. I'm still researching to find out how to reverse my stupid situation.
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(09-13-2019 11:42 PM)zlaer Wrote:  I'll tell you something that happened to me. For 12 years I have been powerlifting. The benefits were amazing as I gained muscle and some fat. The confidence that this instilled in me was incalculably a godsend. But then starting a few years ago, I noticed I couldn't gain muscle any longer. Very strange as hell. As a result this hampered my game to a noticeable extent.

Now I'm trying to figure out what's going on and how to fix this. A few weeks ago, I read some info about the negative effects of the shutting down of androgen receptors in the body which are necessary to convert protein to muscle. When these turn off there's no way to build muscle. That's why many bodybuilders who stopped growing become bewildered and confused. I'm still researching to find out how to reverse my stupid situation.

Eating enough?
Tried a different routine?
Resting enough?
Reached your genetic potential?

You natty?

All of those could hamper your progress.
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(09-13-2019 11:49 PM)tugofpeace Wrote:  Eating enough?
Tried a different routine?
Resting enough?
Reached your genetic potential?

You natty?

All of those could hamper your progress.

Has nothing to do with diet/routine/ample rest.

Diet is the biggest myth when it comes to building muscle. When you're blessed with genetics you can body build and eat anything you want and still get big.

I've said this before in my previous post that androgen receptors have shut down. This normally occurs as you age sadly. Bodybuilders are complaining about this phenomenon.

Did you read my last post on this? I thought I had explained this fully.

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For me, lifting seriously isn't worth it. For one, I'm 6'4, so I'm "big" regardless. Second, since my limbs are long, filling them out is difficult. Third, I'm terrified of getting too fat since I was fat as a kid, so mostly I'd eat at the level to support recomposition. And the big one is, I blew out my right shoulder doing something and over a year and a half later, it's just now starting to get to 90%. So in conclusion, I don't eat enough to really gain, I can't fill out anyway, and I'm injury prone.

Plus it's more fun anyway to mountain bike or hike.
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How much do you weigh?

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I hover around 220-225, but again, that's at 6'4. I'd call myself a middle of the road mesomorph body style, maybe on the ecto side since I'm limbed and not hugely muscled.
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