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RE: Report: Rising Number Of Weak, Emasculated Men Working As Stay-At-Home Dads
Rich women who want marriage are like them 10's at the club, guys who actively work on getting them will. Already there are blogs full of rich women complaining about paying so much to their ex husbands in alimony or just in assets post divorce. I mean don't put all your eggs in one basket like some perverse male gold digger, but if you get a chance to marry rich, or to nail a 10, go for it.

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02-08-2014 06:30 AM
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Deleted. Too personal.
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02-08-2014 06:55 AM
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RE: Report: Rising Number Of Weak, Emasculated Men Working As Stay-At-Home Dads
That's a godly arrangement, I agree. Someone would have to be crazy to hate on that. But even in this case you have to admit that the word "despite" stands. Or do you mean to say that the fact she pays for most expenses actually makes her more attracted to you, like some variant of sunk costs?

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02-08-2014 07:16 AM
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RE: Report: Rising Number Of Weak, Emasculated Men Working As Stay-At-Home Dads
I'm not looking to marry someone making $200K plus, more like a nurse making around $60K. I have enough assets it would be a long time before her earnings and savings would make me a winner in a divorce split.

And I would want to marry someone I really like, not enough money in the world to force me to "love" someone I hate for money.

I am pretty sure I could find a lot of well-off women, but they would be closer to my age and maybe not as pleasant.

All I want is enough for a decent upper-middle class life without working. I provide the house, she provides the groceries and vacation money. My pensions and savings give me spending money.

(02-08-2014 04:47 AM)Statsi Wrote:  Sp5 your advice is the wrong way round surely? Those are steps a breadwinning husband has to undertake. If you're a sahd you don't want a prenup since she has the greatest income, you don't need to screen against greed as a divorce results in your gain.

Honestly, I'd marry a women I hate if she was rich. It's all gravy.
02-08-2014 07:22 AM
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RE: Report: Rising Number Of Weak, Emasculated Men Working As Stay-At-Home Dads
What is this despite chat? Who cares what women say they want? Go after the women you want and work on becoming the man you want to be. It's like valuing women too highly. When Roosh was banging girls on a mattress in his parents basement were they letting him get exactly what he wants despite of the mattress?

No they slept with him because he gamed them and they wanted him. This 'despite' thinking is limiting, you should be working on you for the rewards, not to please women. If a girl doesn't want you then it's next girl until you get what you desire.

The reverse argument would be equally ridiculous. Without going into retracted vicious' post is she with him 'because' he destroys her in bed? Is she with him because of his dress sense? Who cares. He's got what she wants, he's got what she wants, it's all good.

If a girl was a fat fetishist is she with a fat dude because he's fat? Who cares? If the dude wants to be ripped then should he stay fat just in case she isn't willing to be with him despite his muscles? Or should he go after what he wants and next girl? Vicious has what he wants, the girls are replaceable, your happiness cannot depend on the actions of one person.

If you find yourself caring about why a girl is with you then you are definitely valuing her too highly and yourself too lowly. Obviously if you want to sleep with the most women possible then you should work on increasing your value and your game, in this case then sure refuse to do housework if you think it'll help get you laid.

However if you find yourself so worried about losing a girl you already have that you won't do housework incase she finds it unattractive then you need to check yourself. That's beta as can be, women are replaceable, but you have but one life to live. When Roosh was offered sex if he was willing to lick a girl out should he have said yes? Is that one Girl so valuable that her desires are more important than his own? Fuck no, next girl.

Girls don't owe you anything, you don't owe them anything. Where your desires are mutual then excellent, but never forget that you are the most important person in any relationship. Sacrificing your lifestyle to try and appease women's desires is white knight nonsense. I'd sacrifice for my crew and for my kids, that it. Women are on their own.

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02-08-2014 08:02 AM
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I'm not saying that you shouldn't enter into such an arrangement if you can find it, especially after you posted the greatly encouraging stats on custody following divorce and Vicious's example. It sounds beneficial and you should. However, that doesn't make minimizing the "despite" factors and maximizing the "because" factors pointless. These things don't go away just because someone has good game - they just get muted. All the more power to you if you can mute them (and I heartily recommend that most men acquire a healthy reserve of this "muting power" because they're going to need it sooner or later), but why should we not try to make our lives easier where we can? To get an award for playing with a handicap?

Should you not work on moving into your own place, just because your game already allows you to bang girls in your parents' basement?
Should you not exercise, just because your game already allows you to bang girls while being a scrawny fuck?
Should you not earn money, just because your game already allows you to bang girls without paying?
Should you not travel, just because your game already allows you to bang girls from your home country?
Should you not approach, just because your game already allows you to bang girls from okcupid?
Should you not marry a virgin, just because your game already allows you to tame a slut?
Should you not work on building a harem, just because your game already allows you to get an ONS?
Should you not build fame, just because your game already allows you to get bangs?


I'm not disagreeing with your calculation concerning housework. I simply don't feel the need to make my live harder just to look cooler. I'll take what advantages I can, and to hell with what other people expect me to work with.

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02-08-2014 03:12 PM
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RE: Report: Rising Number Of Weak, Emasculated Men Working As Stay-At-Home Dads
I included that you should do the things that allow you to obtain what you want. I would agree to each statement if it were a condition set by a single woman. To take a single example, 'should you not work on moving out.' if you don't desire to move out and a single girl you would bang will sleep with you if you do, then next girl. If an individual Girl will only sleep with you if you don't move out, but you desire to move out, then next girl.

It's not complex, just value yourself over women. In the above example if living with your parents was preventing you from getting any lays, but you want to stay with them, then it's up to you as a man to decide which you value more. As long as you are improving yourself and getting what you want it's all good. If you aren't then you need to consider who you want to be and work towards that.

Now I'm going to hit the club. Do you think the girls there are going to come home with me because I'm the guy doing the approaches? Or despite the dishes I did earlier? If you adopted every (allegedly) attractive alpha trait would you get every Girl you went after?

Think of it like working out, while the vast majority of women are most attracted to brad Pitt skinny strong builds, getting very muscular has the greatest rewards as so few men can fill that role. Perhaps most women prefer non-sahds yet it bears the greatest rewards as so few masculine men fulfil that role.

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02-08-2014 04:56 PM
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"Stay-at-home dad" implies A. That I have a kid/kids B. That I am in a serious, long-term relationship. I don't want either.

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02-08-2014 05:08 PM
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RE: Report: Rising Number Of Weak, Emasculated Men Working As Stay-At-Home Dads
(02-08-2014 02:49 AM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  the famous "Why I left my Beta husband" article on Marie Claire

Hmmmm.

The guy in that piece seems like a checklist for doing it wrong - he can't find a job with his PhD in film (Rolleyes), so he becomes a SAHD out of necessity and is bitter about it:
He said that he was angry with me for always putting work first and angry with himself for not being able to find a job. He said he didn't appreciate being treated like a nanny-slash-housekeeper-slash-gardener.

He doesn't do the household shit he's supposed to...:
The baby was in the same little nightgown she'd slept in the night before. There wasn't a hint of dinner on the horizon. He was home all day-couldn't he at least run a freaking load of laundry?

...or the bedroom shit:
one day, I realized it had been almost a year since Mark and I had made love...in my head, I'd neutralized him as a sexual being. I wanted to be overwhelmed by the sheer power of his masculinity in the bedroom, but I wasn't.

Interestingly, she ditches him for a different SAHD:
nobody was more surprised than I was when I went ahead and fell for another stay-at-home dad. Here's the difference, though: Jason knows what he wants-and it's not a corner office...There's nothing thwarted or self-pitying about him.
02-10-2014 01:40 PM
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