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RE: PSA: Dont sleep on True Detective
(08-06-2015 10:55 PM)Nolecbo Wrote:  I’m lost: who is Katherine Davis?

She is Bezzerides’ boss. She is the woman who got Bezzerides, Velcoro, and Woodrugh secretly back to investigating the Caspere case after the massacre in Vinci. She believed the Caspere case got closed only because Vinci paid off Attorney General and sex party attender Geldof, who in the wake of the Vinci massacre declared he was running for Governor and, not coincidentally, suddenly had an impressive war chest. Davis was not motivated by anything particularly nefarious, but she was more interested in interfering with Geldof’s rise than in cracking the entire Caspere-related conspiracy. None of that really matters now, however, because she is dead: she is the black woman Velcoro discovered shot in the driver’s seat of her own car. Velcoro assumes she was murdered by Burris and Holloway, and that they used one of the guns in his house to do it, in order to frame Velcoro.

Do people really have trouble with this?

Anyone who can't follow this plot point unaided should stop watching TV.

It's like saying "wait, so does Vince Vaughan run a casino?"

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Finale is going to be 90 minutes. Hope it is worth slogging through all the emotional engagements and the cringe & snooze worthy dialogue. We at least should get to see Vaughn's wife's tits as a reward.
08-07-2015 05:01 PM
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(08-07-2015 05:01 PM)Mother Russia Wrote:  Finale is going to be 90 minutes. Hope it is worth slogging through all the emotional engagements and the cringe & snooze worthy dialogue. We at least should get to see Vaughn's wife's tits as a reward.

$1 says they are covered in freckles Laugh

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Wonder what odds are everyone dies.
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Just saw the finale.

That is 8.5 hours of my life that I'll never fucking get back.
08-10-2015 12:51 AM
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Thanks to Game of Thrones the new trend of killing everyone is getting old. You can see it coming a mile away. After the shit that was S2 they could have at least given a decent ending.
08-10-2015 04:15 AM
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R.I.P. Season 2. Can't say I'll miss it.
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A nasty and pointless ending to an otherwise decent series. It wasn't up to the level of S1, but I looked forward to each episode.

If the Mexicans had been more than occasional bit-parters it might make sense, but they only appeared whenever the plot needed someone to be cruel and brutish.

Leaving aside how the quality of the dialogue dropped way below its already sub-par standard, dropping Vaughan's character into a deleted scene from Breaking Bad was disappointing and unimaginative.

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08-10-2015 02:07 PM
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He couldn't give up his suit?

Seriously?

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(08-10-2015 06:54 PM)samsamsam Wrote:  He couldn't give up his suit?

Seriously?

The diamonds were in the jacket.
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(08-10-2015 06:57 PM)Game_Started Wrote:  
(08-10-2015 06:54 PM)samsamsam Wrote:  He couldn't give up his suit?

Seriously?

The diamonds were in the jacket.

Doh, I forgot...It was such a good episode, I got lost in the facts Laugh

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When Ray was sending his kid the message about how how strong and great he is, I got confused. All this kid did was whine, eat, and watch Friends.

I'm glad it was never sent. It would have enforce that kid's shitty life.
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So did they turn lesbian and raise the kid together?
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(08-10-2015 08:09 PM)Gustavus Adolphus Wrote:  ** Spoiler ***

So did they turn lesbian and raise the kid together?

Now THAT seen would have turned this season around! Rachel McAdams sucking Frank's wife's big milkers...
08-10-2015 09:11 PM
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The part with the gas masks was great. We should have seen a lot more of that kind of stuff this season, it had the feel of the first season. Sadly, for me that was the highlight of the finale, and nothing else really stood out.
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Entire series was kinda "meh" as the kiddies like to say, but not terrible.

Never understood the point of the gay motorcycle cop/badass military contractor hero suffering from PTSD - was that just a last minute feeble attempt at making homosexuals more acceptable? I get the feeling they added the gay factor to the character at the request of some HBO executive with an agenda.

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(08-10-2015 12:51 AM)XII Wrote:  Just saw the finale.

That is 8.5 hours of my life that I'll never fucking get back.

I just finished the finale. The finale (in fact the last three episodes) were pretty good - but 'pretty good' doesn't make up for the first five being 'So-so...if I'm in a good mood'.

Overall a convoluted, needlessly complex mess with zero resolution, under-cooked characters and a whole fuck ton of logic-defying reaches.

McAdams and Vince Vaughan's wife survive, the men both die (in fact just about all of the men die)...way to buck the trend and do something innovative and unpredictable. You know what would have been innovative and unpredictable? McAdams dying, then Farrell being pissed and mourning then going to Caracas to bang beauty queens - that or ANYTHING aside from 'Man brutally dies, woman survives unscathed', which is what has happened in every TV show since the dawn of time...OR, maybe that didn't happen because the writers know it will make the women complain - which (if what I've heard is true...'Season one NO STRONG EMPOWERED WOMYN! MEN FIX THIS!') is basically the reason we had Rachel McAdams bolting on a penis for her role this season?

For all people deride Game of Thrones for the ever-creeping feminist bullshit that finds its way into the story, at least they have the balls to kill a female character for the sake of intrigue and shock (yes I know it was in the books first, but as we've seen with that better than True Detective show - the writers aren't shy about adding and omitting things from the source material...)

I have to read synopses to make sense of the plot. The show completely vanished up its own ass.

The villains behind the conspiracy were introduced far too late so I didn't even care about who the killer was any more, or what they were up to.

Suffice to say I will probably not be watching season three...this was just too big of a step down and if I had to guess, there's probably gonna be more stupid stunt casting, like Neil Patrick Harris as the HAM Alpha-male detective who takes no shit with Mindy Kaling as the Internal Affairs agent investigating his department who's cheery and outwardly quirky to hide her body-image issues or some such shit.

I don't want to bag on Rachel McAdams because she was trying, but I'm going to anyways - she doesn't even belong on the same stage as Colin Farrell and Vince Vaughan. Taylor Kitsch had jack shit to do but brood and be ashamed of his gayness. Not a single other character (aside from Vince Vaughan's wife and the Russian guy) was in any way memorable or integral.

(08-10-2015 07:31 PM)Cronus Wrote:  When Ray was sending his kid the message about how how strong and great he is, I got confused. All this kid did was whine, eat, and watch Friends.

I'm glad it was never sent. It would have enforce that kid's shitty life.

I struggle to think of how Colin Farrell and his WB wife could have spawned a fat bump-on-a-log ginger, but TV is fiction.

'I wanna watch Friends'!? Really kid, could you pick a more lame, blue-pill, no-one-gives-a-shit-about-it-anymore show? Farrell should have put on an episode of Seinfeld instead.
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I hated the part where the micro recorder got stepped on. Of course that was going to happen. So original. I have no idea how that kid came from their genes. Must have been a producers or writers kid.

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Overall I agree with others, this season sucked compared to the first and the last episode, or episodes, was full of clichés. It really makes me wonder how much freedom the writers had this time around compared to the first.

My thinking is that the first season was sold as is due to getting two big name stars to sign on. The main guys probably thought that would sell it and that was that. Then it blew up, so they renewed it and turned it into a series instead of a one-off and that's when the bean counters and agenda movers stepped in to make sure that the audience was a wide as possible and hit all the LGBTQYZ political alphabet soup points.

You saw the same thing with Breaking Bad. The first two seasons or so were really red pill, I think it was the first episode that Skylar gave Walt that pathetic handjob to show what a bitch she was and they even went and edited it out of later releases, but once it became popular and picked up steam is where they turned it from a dark comedy into a somewhat anti-male show.

Don't get me wrong, it was still great, but you can tell that both of these shows, and many more I am sure, got co-opted at some point.

I guess the good thing is that it is still better than most of the other crap on TV.

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Every time Abigail Spencer (Colin Farrell's character's wife) came on the show I only thought about her fappening masturbation videos where she really "came on the show".

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At first I wondered why Velcoro left the tracking device on his car. Then I guess he did it to draw the others away from his kid's school. He should have pried it off, and tossed it out the window on the highway. He was driving a late model Charger. They were driving a 10-12 year old Suburban. You don't run for the woods, you run for open highway and then outrun them.

Vince Vaughn had been in organized crime long enough and should have recognized that he was being tailed and taken measures to stop being tailed.

You knew they weren't all going to make it out alive, but the ending in this case was pretty piss poor.
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He was stupid to jump out from behind the tree after dazing off into the sky.

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Season 1 True Detective:

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9/10... WB

Season 2 True Detective

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5/10... WNB

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(07-10-2015 01:33 PM)PUA_Rachacha Wrote:  This season is definitely more slow going than the first one. And the performances have been lacklustre.

As other members have already stated, Farrell has given the best performance thus far. Vince Vaughn is still not really believable as a tough guy (really, he runs multiple strip clubs/casinos, but is a total pussy around his wife/gf?), and I haven't been wowed by Kitsch's performance (trying to act really awkward around gays, it was overacting in my opinion).

I'm not as down on McAdams as some guys here are although she did have some cheesy lines. But she is a female cop, so she's going to exude that "don't-fuck-with-me" vibe. I thought the scene where she explains why she carries around knives was interesting and reflected the mindset of a female cop who can be overpowered by a high T dude at anytime.

My predictions:

- Farrell and McAdams hook up.
- McAdams learns about what Farrell did to his wife's rapist and ultimately turns him in.
- Farrell then offs himself
- Kitsch catches AIDS
- Vaughn gets taken out by the Russian mobster (part anaconda, part great white, ha!)
- Vinci mayor is somehow involved with Casper's disappearance. Likely stole Vaughn's money from Casper, then killed him.

Well, my predictions weren't that accurate, but not totally off.

First one I got right. Second one I got kind of right, but McAdams didn't turn Farrell in. Farrell does kind of go kamikaze in the end, but obviously doesn't outright commit suicide. Vaughn got taken out by Mexican mobster, god that part sucked. Vinci mayor wasn't involved with Casper's disappearance at all, I got that one way wrong.

Overall the ending was very underwhelming. You just knew that Farrell and Vaughn wouldn't make it out alive, so I just yawned my way through the last 30 minutes.

Vaughn did improve his acting by the end and I began to warm up to his character some more. Velcoro was still by and far the best, and Farrell really showed that he has acting chops. McAdams was not bad as I said before. Vaughn's red head was a horrible actress, but dem titties.
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Just finished this season. What a fucking waste-- everything has already been said in this thread about the disappointment that was season 2.

Vaughn and Farrell were actually growing on me, but the plot just couldn't get it together.

Here's to hoping Nick Pizzolatto either learns from his mistakes or hires a team of talented writers to give feedback on his ideas for season 3.

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