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The Decline Of Argentina
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RE: The Decline Of Argentina
(04-30-2019 12:59 PM)BBinger Wrote:  
(04-30-2019 10:38 AM)Going strong Wrote:  
(04-30-2019 09:33 AM)911 Wrote:  True, you'd be buying at the ground floor, with the caveat that you have to check the legal landscape, especially as a foreigner.

In Venezuela, prices have been at rock-bottom but have already gone up because speculators think regime change is coming.

Not really buying at the ground floor, as far as Buenos Aires is concerned. Owners of apartments in BsAs stand their ground quite well, so local prices have only lost say 10% (in dollars, all properties are quoted in USD), but hey, it's something (a 10%-gain for the foreign buyer) - and prices will climb at some point, probably once the engineer Macri is re-elected.

As to the legal landscape, no particular problem there. Argentina respects the usual laws of property, and titles of property have full and sufficient value. Only difficulty would be to bring the foreign money into an Argentinian bank account, and for that you would need local help (and come to think of legal aid on the ground, well, our local expert Mekorig certainly would know about this).

I wouldn't buy anything in Argentina or Uruguay that I wasn't interested in living in. In light of the culture its hard to tell if the prices aren't moving for because buyers are still buying, or if its the Argentine cultural overvaluation of what they have. A number of property types over here in Uruguay have seen slow downwards price movement since I started looking last year.

There's two big reasons I wouldn't want to hold property in this region as an investment:

  1. The laws around squaters would make evicting any that capture an unattended property a costly matter
  2. Units in my new construction apartment building are listed for sale around 100,000 to 120,000 USD. I've been paying 450-400 USD a month in peso demoninated rent (since I'm in Uruguay it will go up a set percent on the lease anniversary). Mortgage rates here are quite a bit above those in the US and require quite a bit down. The math just doesn't seem to support holding property for rental income when so many other things in the world offer better rates of return.

Buying property for my own use, enjoyment, or business is a stretch goal on the 5-year plan that may carry over to the next 5 year plan. I have substantial reservations about classing such a purchase an an investment.

If I have learned one thing over the years is that the globalists know how to make properties cheap, then buy everything up, driving squatters and existing tenants out via organized crime enforcers and making a killing while keeping supply tight via political allies and organized hoarding of building permits and existing apartment buildings (on which greatly increased rents are collected to make some cash before they are released onto the market).

Look at major European cities to see this squeeze in action that turns people against each other.

What doesn't economically make sense today might sound like a steal in 10 years if you can hold onto it as a non connected non globalist.

Just look at Berlin, which is a net drain on the German economy to see what I mean. Prices quadruppled over a decade and every underhanded tactic in the book was used to achieve this and make a killing from it.
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05-01-2019 08:02 AM
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RE: The Decline Of Argentina
(04-30-2019 10:14 PM)BBinger Wrote:  
(04-30-2019 05:48 PM)Heuristics Wrote:  I have heard that the liberalism and SJWism in Argentina are in an advanced stage at this point... apparently these marxist tendencies are spreading across the continent. I don't know whether this is true or not.

But a classmate of mine who was heavily SJW went down there to live, participate in pride parades, liberal activism, veganism and drinking of high priced faggot hipster coffee. Likely a bad omen if it's on the map for liberal american girls.

Here in Montevideo it is mostly a "middle" to "upper" class kid thing the girls in the city do. Except less coffee and more Yerba mate.

Rich liberals make good communists. Just ask Che or Fidel.
05-01-2019 01:40 PM
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RE: The Decline Of Argentina
When one door closes... :

Council worker sacked for selling X-rated videos

A 28-year-old council worker has been sacked after it was discovered she had been selling erotic videos and photos for “a lot” of money.

A council worker in Argentina has been sacked for selling pornographic photos and videos of herself online to supplement her income.

Sonia Pellizzari told local media the salary she earned working in admin for the La Plata municipality in the capital Buenos Aires was not enough to live on, and she never made a secret about what she did in her free time.
The 28-year-old, who started working for the local council in 2011, began modelling and then making erotic videos in 2017 to help pay the bills, including her student fees.
“I do not want to say how much I earn with the videos, but it is a lot,” she was reported as saying. “And I use it for paying the rent and other things.”
Ms Pellizzari said all of her colleagues knew about her side business, but she was only sacked when the videos and pictures went viral online.

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05-05-2019 08:53 PM
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There was a military dictatorship in the 70s I believe. Not saying this was the main cause.
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05-07-2019 10:38 AM
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(05-05-2019 09:48 PM)Swordfish1010 Wrote:  Would.

Aregentinan women are so lovely. I understand they are unapproachable feminist bitches, but otherwise, yum yum.
05-07-2019 02:02 PM
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RE: The Decline Of Argentina
(05-07-2019 02:02 PM)MrLemon Wrote:  
(05-05-2019 09:48 PM)Swordfish1010 Wrote:  Would.

Aregentinan women are so lovely. I understand they are unapproachable feminist bitches, but otherwise, yum yum.

Argentina was the first country that really made me like Roosh since he was there. I also wouldn't really call Argentine women feminist bitches, they're very insular from what I heard from Roosh. They're crazy and will flake a lot but once you win them and their social circle they're yummy and cool.
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I've fond memories of Argentina and was pleasantly surprised with the women.
I traveled there for 2 weeks back in 2014, after 1 year working in Brazil.
I remember reading Roosh before going and was curious to see if it was going to be as bad as he was saying.
Starting my journey in Buenos Aires, the first shock after Brazil was to see so many slim and well dressed women. I thought I was back in France, but the girls were even better looking.
Then meeting the women, it was either day or night for me. Either they were into me or not at all and you knew it right away. No middle ground for me.
Might have been the french vibe coupled with the straight forwardness that I gained in Brazil that worked in my favor.
Anyway I liked the country so much that I will be back in June for a year!
05-07-2019 03:25 PM
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(02-16-2014 08:55 PM)Quintus Curtius Wrote:  "The Economist" magazine has a very interesting cover story on "The Parable of Argentina":


It might surprise many people to know that in 1914, Argentina was a very wealthy and successful country. Its economy had grown faster than America's for four straight decades. And its people were much richer on a per capita basis than Germany.

Almost half of the population had been born outside the country. It seemed to be the country of the future. Many immigrants chose to go there instead of the United States. Its beef industry was far superior to both America's and Australia's. Even Harrod's department store chose to set up its first foreign branch in Buenos Aires (which was closed in 1998).

What the hell happened? I was actually shocked to read the article.

I thought it might be a useful exercise for us here to reflect on the reasons for economic and cultural decline, and what lessons we can learn from it. In some ways, it's a disturbing story. It suggests that even nations blessed with great land and resources can destroy themselves if bad leadership and institutions are allowed to grow and spread.

I have never been there, and know little about the country. I'd like to hear the views and opinions of those who do know something.

It wasn't; that early 20th Century snap shot is predicated on momentarily high raw material and agricultural prices. It was a cash crop economy then and it is largely now, just raw material prices are very low long term.
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