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@Timoteo.

You understand well the illegal migration issue. The demogues could care less about hurting feelings. Keeping illegals is good for business and there is only one ruler in the US, and that's the Corporations. Corporations benefit from the low wage labor from illegal migrants.
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(04-04-2014 07:22 PM)scorpion Wrote:  
(04-04-2014 06:50 PM)The_CEO Wrote:  Re: The Media List:

Anne Sweeney. Nope.

Why so many duplicates on here? The chart would be at least 25% smaller without them.

You do know Roosh has Persian heritage right? And a lot of your RVF Brothers are black, hispanic, asian etc.

So from your POV this forum is very very impure.

"Judge not lest ye be judged"

This is a good example of the power of multicultural propaganda and media brainwashing. The simple fact that I'm talking about Jewish behavior objectively makes The_CEO jump to the conclusion that I am somehow anti-Black, anti-Hispanic and anti-Asian. Jews have successfully propagandized the masses into having a Pavlovian response to any criticism of non-whites by a white person: that guy is a racist and a hate monger!

No discussion of racial issues that portrays non-Whites in anything except glowing terms is permitted in our public discourse (in the case of this thread: Jews, who are probably the most privileged ethnic minority in terms of being beyond reproach and criticism). People have been conditioned by the media to perceive any kind of racial real talk, especially from the White perspective, as being intrinsically motivated by hate. This is exactly the sort of thing I was talking about earlier with soup. Whites simply aren't allowed to talk like this in the public sphere. They will be raked over the coals for doing so, while members of other ethnic groups have much wider latitude for discussing racial issues without having to trip over their own feet to apologize every three seconds. We've reached the absurd position where a white person cannot say anything negative about non-white groups, while whites themselves are literally taught to hate themselves and feel guilt for even existing in their own historic homelands. So basically, as far as public debate goes, non-whites are able to do no wrong, while whites are unable to do anything BUT wrong, merely by virtue of existing (white guilt, white privilege, etc...)

Note that in none of my posts have I said anything about hating Jews, or any other race of people for that matter. I've simply pointed out the way that Jews have adapted their unique culture to exert an extremely outsized influence in the modern West. In my judgment, this influence is largely negative. That is an assertion that is open for debate. The fact that Jews have this outsized influence is a fact that is beyond debate to any informed person. It's also a fact that has nothing to do with hating Jews or other minority groups.

Despite what your television would have you believe, it IS possible to discuss racial issues and even hold non-PC racial views without hating other people or wanting to harm them in any way. Just like it's possible to learn game and be seen as a sexist or misogynist by the PC culture without actually hating women.


I think his post might have been talking about this thread in general.. That earlier poster was saying stuff about all those dark skinned people coming into Europe on account of the Jews in way that made it sound like a negative thing.

Like white man scared of darker people etc.

It's the reverse of what you say- the Jew get blamed for a lot. And easier for people to come out and hate on Jews because they are actually closer to white than the darker people.

It's like PC hate.

So, hating on Jews becomes a gateway into hating on darker people as this thread has shown.

To browner people it's "first we come for Jew, then we come for you"
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The whole integration issue is also an interesting one. What exactly do you mean when you talk about integration? To some, it means abandoning EVERYTHING about their heritage, and transforming in such a way to make those of the culture they are supposedly integrating into comfortable with their presence. Naturally, they should learn the language, but what else? Also, comparing the US to other nations that aren't diverse isn't a fair comparison, because the US was built by immigrants from the beginning. Today other countries welcome immigrants to provide labor, but in many ways won't allow them to truly integrate. Yeah, it's okay if you work FOR us, but you can't build your own. Yeah, you can live here, but you can't live in the areas where WE live.

Non-Whites helped build America, but yet you still hear the "this is a White, Christian nation" declaration. Those people are EVERY bit the American, yet are still seen as interlopers or visitors - people that are only to be tolerated. You complain that various ethnicities have their own organizations, etc., yet they were forced to band together because they were discriminated against and excluded by Whites. So in many ways in America, it was Whites against everyone else. Whites resisted every attempt by non-whites to be fully vested Americans, equal to Whites. It's as if we're saying racism against non-Whites by Whites NEVER existed, and still doesn't. Perhaps Whites are called racist because so often they've spoken in derogatory terms against non-Whites. Even on this forum, it's all in when discussing the pathologies of non-White groups - it goes on for pages and pages. However, when the light is shined back a little, White guys get a little sensitive and defensive. The breakdown of the history of Jews, and why societies reacted to them in that fashion was very enlightening, but you also have to acknowledge that minority groups in the history of the United States can level many of the same charges against Whites here. If we're being truthful and honest, you have to acknowledge that.

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(04-04-2014 07:55 PM)Timoteo Wrote:  The whole integration issue is also an interesting one. What exactly do you mean when you talk about integration? To some, it means abandoning EVERYTHING about their heritage, and transforming in such a way to make those of the culture they are supposedly integrating into comfortable with their presence. Naturally, they should learn the language, but what else? Also, comparing the US to other nations that aren't diverse isn't a fair comparison, because the US was built by immigrants from the beginning. Today other countries welcome immigrants to provide labor, but in many ways won't allow them to truly integrate. Yeah, it's okay if you work FOR us, but you can't build your own. Yeah, you can live here, but you can't live in the areas where WE live.

Non-Whites helped build America, but yet you still hear the "this is a White, Christian nation" declaration. Those people are EVERY bit the American, yet are still seen as interlopers or visitors - people that are only to be tolerated. You complain that various ethnicities have their own organizations, etc., yet they were forced to band together because they were discriminated against and excluded by Whites. So in many ways in America, it was Whites against everyone else. Whites resisted every attempt by non-whites to be fully vested Americans, equal to Whites. It's as if we're saying racism against non-Whites by Whites NEVER existed, and still doesn't. Perhaps Whites are called racist because so often they've spoken in derogatory terms against non-Whites. Even on this forum, it's all in when discussing the pathologies of non-White groups - it goes on for pages and pages. However, when the light is shined back a little, White guys get a little sensitive and defensive. The breakdown of the history of Jews, and why societies reacted to them in that fashion was very enlightening, but you also have to acknowledge that minority groups in the history of the United States can level many of the same charges against Whites here. If we're being truthful and honest, you have to acknowledge that.

So, tell me if this is correct: the hierarchy of people to point a finger at should go

1) Jews
2) Whites
3) Others

?

The other guys on this thread would probably arrange it like this:

1) Jews
2) Other darker people
3) Whites
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(04-04-2014 07:22 PM)scorpion Wrote:  
(04-04-2014 06:50 PM)The_CEO Wrote:  Re: The Media List:

Anne Sweeney. Nope.

Why so many duplicates on here? The chart would be at least 25% smaller without them.

You do know Roosh has Persian heritage right? And a lot of your RVF Brothers are black, hispanic, asian etc.

So from your POV this forum is very very impure.

"Judge not lest ye be judged"

This is a good example of the power of multicultural propaganda and media brainwashing. The simple fact that I'm talking about Jewish behavior objectively makes The_CEO jump to the conclusion that I am somehow anti-Black, anti-Hispanic and anti-Asian. Jews have successfully propagandized the masses into having a Pavlovian response to any criticism of non-whites by a white person: that guy is a racist and a hate monger!

No discussion of racial issues that portrays non-Whites in anything except glowing terms is permitted in our public discourse (in the case of this thread: Jews, who are probably the most privileged ethnic minority in terms of being beyond reproach and criticism). People have been conditioned by the media to perceive any kind of racial real talk, especially from the White perspective, as being intrinsically motivated by hate. This is exactly the sort of thing I was talking about earlier with soup. Whites simply aren't allowed to talk like this in the public sphere. They will be raked over the coals for doing so, while members of other ethnic groups have much wider latitude for discussing racial issues without having to trip over their own feet to apologize every three seconds. We've reached the absurd position where a white person cannot say anything negative about non-white groups, while whites themselves are literally taught to hate themselves and feel guilt for even existing in their own historic homelands. So basically, as far as public debate goes, non-whites are able to do no wrong, while whites are unable to do anything BUT wrong, merely by virtue of existing (white guilt, white privilege, etc...)

Note that in none of my posts have I said anything about hating Jews, or any other race of people for that matter. I've simply pointed out the way that Jews have adapted their unique culture to exert an extremely outsized influence in the modern West. In my judgment, this influence is largely negative. That is an assertion that is open for debate. The fact that Jews have this outsized influence is a fact that is beyond debate to any informed person. It's also a fact that has nothing to do with hating Jews or other minority groups.

Despite what your television would have you believe, it IS possible to discuss racial issues and even hold non-PC racial views without hating other people or wanting to harm them in any way. Just like it's possible to learn game and be seen as a sexist or misogynist by the PC culture without actually hating women.

Objectively? Dodgy

Anyway, no I didn't put words in your mouth. I did read your posts though. Which said something along the lines of how jews are wrecking things by, among other things, encouraging loose immigration enforcement so that all kinds of races come in, etc etc
So, you said it yourself already.
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Yep cardguy, no one really has problems with Jews in the UK, hell even the Muslims don't have issues with British Jews but Israelis is another thing completely.

Interesting debate especially the posts by Samseau and scorpion on how Jewish culture/society/whatever you want to call it has worked. One thing I can say is it's the complete opposite to Indian society, Indians hate each other, won't help each other and will feign help in order to work out how to get one over or look better than that other Indian. Hell the guy will pray next to you in the temple and consider you his Hindu brother but will always try to get one up on you. Far cry from how tightly knit Jewish communities are and how they actively help each other.

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(04-04-2014 07:55 PM)Timoteo Wrote:  Non-Whites helped build America, but yet you still hear the "this is a White, Christian nation" declaration.

The majority of the people that built America was white though.

As well as a small percentage being black.
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(04-04-2014 05:19 PM)soup Wrote:  Which Jews are saying no racial identity for Whites?



This miserable cunt for starters.

And notice, in the videos she refers to Jews and a multicultural europe. Jews get to retain their homogeneity, everyone has to become diverse.
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(04-04-2014 08:44 PM)porscheguy Wrote:  
(04-04-2014 05:19 PM)soup Wrote:  Which Jews are saying no racial identity for Whites?



This miserable cunt for starters.

And notice, in the videos she refers to Jews and a multicultural europe. Jews get to retain their homogeneity, everyone has to become diverse.

In that video, she doesn't say that there shouldn't be a white racial identity.
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(04-04-2014 03:30 PM)Samseau Wrote:  That's cuz of guys like me train them.

But on a more serious note: People should know Jews stick together, and it's fucking insane until you see it.

I was casually dating a Jewish girl for about 7 months, and basically my view of Jews will never be the same. She was half-Jewish, since her father was Gentile, but since the mother carries the bloodline she was technically full Jewish. However, she did not look fully Jewish being only genetically half-Jew. You could not tell she looked Jewish by looking at her. Red hair, small nose, taller than most girls, smallish breasts... looked like any other American girl.

And this is what shocked me: Other Jews could still tell!

Often times, when I was out with my girl, other people would come up to her and ask, "Are you Jewish?" Right out of the blue. Not even a hello was said first! And she'd be like, "Yes I am, actually." And then they would say, "Oh, I'm Jewish too! Where do you live blah blah blah..."

The first time it happened, I thought "Okay, just a random incident." But then the second time. And third. And eventually people were asking me if I was Jewish. After four months I was like, "What the fuck is this Jewish conspiracy?"

I have once seen a pack of Jews group up and form a Star of David together. They would stand in a circle of six and place each link each other's hands across from one another, so that they would form a human star of David. Then one of the guys started to go, "aouuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu," and they laughed about it afterwards. Just another Jewish community building event, I guess.

Jews are basically programmed at birth to do the following:

- Seek each other out.
- Provide help to another whenever possible.
- Put everyone else beneath them.

I don't know if it's cultural or genetic, but until you've seen it firsthand you will never understand the Jewish culture. It is unlike any other ethic group I have ever seen, not even Muslims have so much solidarity.

And ultimately, it's no surprise why the Jews have been genocided so many times throughout history. First by the Romans, then by the Eastern Europeans, and then the Germans.

Why has one group suffered so many genocides? It's because the Jews suck at politics. They may be incredibly smart and talented, but their exclusion of everyone else for their own kind means they get hated on, very very fast.

From their own perspective, Jews aren't doing anything wrong. They love each other and wish to help each other. They share a common religion and language. Why shouldn't they be able to help each other?

But from the outsiders perspective, you see that Jews will take a Jewish word over a non-Jewish word; they will hire Jews over non-Jews; they accept Jews to schools over non-Jews. In essence, I do not think Jews are capable of being impartial. They are biased to their race in a fundamental way.

So Jews ultimately become a parasite in whatever culture or region they get situated in. And whenever any attempt is made to reason why the Jews, the Jews become hostile, throwing around insults like "You're an anti-semite," and start using whatever power they have in order to secure more power for themselves.

And, as they say, "Pride cometh before the fall," which is what happens before every major Jewish genocide.

The first was the Roman genocide of Isreal - Rome had been getting fed up with Jewish insurrection for years. They tried to appease the Jews and even killed Jesus to appease them. But after decades of non-stop bullshit, nothing worked. And to top it off, the Jews declared independence from Rome! At this point, the Romans went berserk and wiped the Jews out Isreal. They exterminated the Jews so bad, Jews haven't been able to get a foothold in the Middle East until the recent creation of Isreal. The sack of Jerusalem was so bad, historians described the streets as "rivers of blood so great, they were able to quench the flames."

Now ask yourself: "What kind of people would think themselves superior to the Romans?" That kind of arrogance is ridiculous as it is dangerous. Zionism has been around for a long time.

The surviving Jews then fled to Eastern Europe, which created the bottleneck in the Jewish population we know today. The Jews who survived that extinction event were much smarter than normal and also had genetic problems with Tay-Sachs, etc. (This is my best explanation for why Jews are smarter than most. It is because of this extinction event.) This is how the Ashkenazi Jews were born.

The second major Jewish extermination event, which occured in the Middle Ages, I do not know much about. I plan on studying more in the future but for now I cannot comment.

The third major Jewish extermination, known as the Holocaust, was setup in part due to the persecution of Jews in the middle ages. Jews had been banned from most common professions, but not moneylending. Moneylending was technically illegal for most of the middle ages, as Christianity prohibits it, but in Jewish tradition moneylending is okay as long as you're lending money to Gentiles and not Jews. And over centuries Jews built up a huge banking empire that stretched across Europe, one that was built illegally.

Now, a small diversion about economics: Hyperinflation, and inflation in general, causes banks to get rich while everyone else becomes poor. This is because when money is freshly printed, it devalues the money once it is spent. Thus the person who gets to spend the money first are the people who benefit the most from the money-printing. As the printed money circulates through an economy, the money loses value as people realize how much more money is around and prices rise.

So, after WWI the ensuing hyperinflation brought enormous wealth to the Jewish bankers that controlled Germany. Freshly printed money almost always goes to the Banks first, which were controlled by Jews, so from 1920-1930 German banker Jews saw their wealth increase exponentially. And since Jews stick together, that banker wealth would flow to other Jews but not regular Germans.

Now, here's a quick question: Has anyone ever wondered how Hitler was able to revive the Germany economy after WWI? It was easy for him. All he had to do was take the wealth concentrated in the bankers hands, i.e. the Jews, and used it to fund his government make-work programs as well as his war machine. The fact that Hitler was able to create such an impressive war machine was testament to how much wealth the German Banker Jews were hoarding.

This ties back into Jewish arrogance. What were German Jews doing while Hitler was elected? Even while Hitler was proclaiming his hate for Jews, and telling everyone if he was elected he would take actions against them, did the Jews start to evacuate Germany?

No, not at all. Most Jews stayed right were they were. And although I can't quote any sources right now, I am sure if I were to search for Jewish opinion on Hitler at the time you would see things like,

"Hitler would never dare to try and attack us."
"We've done so much for Germany... they would never do anything serious!"
"We've lived here for so many years... we are as Germany as anyone else!"
"Hitler is just an demagogue... he doesn't mean what he actually says."

And thus only a minority of Jews were smart enough to leave Germany before the persecution began.

How is this relevant to today?

Do Arabs claim they want to nuke Isreal off the map? Yes.
Do Jews seem to notice or care too much? Nope.
Do Jews want to leave Israel? Nope.
Do Jews believe "Israel has a right to exist?" Yep.

Fucking sad, the Jews seemed doomed to repeat their history over and over and over. They never learn. It's a pity, I really like most of the Jews I meet, all very smart people not to mention the women are great lays (but I would never marry one).

But what can I say? Jews are politically retarded. They live in denial about the effect they have on other peoples and they are blind to the effects of their Jewish patriotism has on their host country as well as their surrounding neighbors.

I fully expect another Jewish extinction event to happen, it's all but guaranteed. The Jews are incapable of seeing the big picture and breaking the struggle. We may not live to see it, but there is no reason to believe it will not come.


Samseau, before I begin this post; respect.


The reason your ex-gf's friends asked you if you were Jewish is because we are encouraged from an early age by grandparents, to date & marry other Jews. This is no different from other proud cultures and castes. Because of this upbringing, it makes perfect sense her friends would assume you to be Jewish if she was dating you. I assure you it had nothing to do with a conspiracy. But I get how people can be fearful of cultures they don't understand. Hell, I was scared shitless in Ukraine.

As far as forming a star of David, that's just some weird nerd shit, of which we have plenty to go around. Definitely more where that came from.

Jews are not programmed to put others beneath them. As kids we hear "chosen people" explained as a religious principle in Hebrew school, but expressing any sort of cultural superiority will get you slapped down fast. Our elites give away wealth to too many causes for me to list here. Not to mention, Israel provides a ton of free shit to poor Palestinians internally.

Solidarity; it definitely exists within the orthodox and religious Jewish community. Most Jews are not religious. There is a wide spectrum of attitudes & beliefs between secular Jews, but for some reason our elites get consistently pointed to as our representative monolithic block. Money talks, I get that. But we are not a monolithic block. Just as all black people are not 1 particular way either. We have plenty of middle class & poor who are worlds away from holding any semblance of power.

I take greatest issue with you citing that Jewish scapegoatism stems from the fact that "Jews are more likely to hire other jews". Which, is the same thing as saying blacks are more likely to hire other blacks, or whites are more likely to hire other whites, therefore, "things will never change". So to say "another genocide is inevitable" as an outcome of this, is pretty fucked up logic.


I'm not a history buff, but what you wrote there sounds accurate. With the exception of, Jews were too "arrogant" to leave Germany when Hitler came to power. This is simply not true. At the time, nobody could have predicted the horrors that were about to come our way. By the time the writing was on the wall, it was too late, and Jews couldn't get out unless they had heavyweight connections, or remaining wealth. The movie Schindler's List tells this story better than I can. I'd implore you to see it if you have not already done so.

Respect.

And yes, Jewish girls give good dome.
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I don't think there is anything wrong with Jews or any other race sticking together, refusing to breed with others and having pride about their race. I can say as a Christian Zionist that antisemitism will only get worse as the end days grow closer. Many nations will rise up and attack Israel and it will lead to the battle of Armageddon and ultimately the second coming of Christ. That table is being set.
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Maybe someone should start a Jewish lounge here for Jewish Players..
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(04-04-2014 04:32 PM)scorpion Wrote:  
(04-04-2014 04:27 PM)nmmoooreland20 Wrote:  Lol, what?

You want to try your hand at a rebuttal or are you just going to stare at my post incredulously like some kind of "Wow, just wow!" Jezebel reader?

The truth can be shocking and upsetting to the uninitiated when stated plainly.

Hah, probably the latter. I mean, go back and read the opening assertion of your concluding paragraph:

(04-04-2014 04:22 PM)scorpion Wrote:  Every time a Jew looks at a white man, he sees a potential Nazi.

Couldn’t help but chuckle.

Look, most Jews are just regular white dudes who don’t (or these days probably do) celebrate Christmas.


As I’m sure we all know, there are several flavors of Jews. Orthodox vs. secular on a broad scale and the various levels of religiousness within; Ashkenazi vs. Sephardic vs. African; Israeli vs. diaspora. Lot of ways to slice the tribe. But you’re run of the mill American Jewish family is no different than the Smith’s down the block. Maybe their last name is Goldstein, or not.
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(04-04-2014 09:14 PM)nmmoooreland20 Wrote:  
(04-04-2014 04:32 PM)scorpion Wrote:  
(04-04-2014 04:27 PM)nmmoooreland20 Wrote:  Lol, what?

You want to try your hand at a rebuttal or are you just going to stare at my post incredulously like some kind of "Wow, just wow!" Jezebel reader?

The truth can be shocking and upsetting to the uninitiated when stated plainly.

Hah, probably the latter. I mean, go back and read the opening assertion of your concluding paragraph:

(04-04-2014 04:22 PM)scorpion Wrote:  Every time a Jew looks at a white man, he sees a potential Nazi.

Couldn’t help but chuckle.

Look, most Jews are just regular white dudes who don’t (or these days probably do) celebrate Christmas.


As I’m sure we all know, there are several flavors of Jews. Orthodox vs. secular on a broad scale and the various levels of religiousness within; Ashkenazi vs. Sephardic vs. African; Israeli vs. diaspora. Lot of ways to slice the tribe. But you’re run of the mill American Jewish family is no different than the Smith’s down the block. Maybe their last name is Goldstein, or not.



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(04-04-2014 09:12 PM)soup Wrote:  Maybe someone should start a Jewish lounge here for Jewish Players..

We did. It's called Brooklyn NY!

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(04-04-2014 08:48 PM)Courage Reborn Wrote:  I'm not a history buff, but what you wrote there sounds accurate. With the exception of, Jews were too "arrogant" to leave Germany when Hitler came to power. This is simply not true. At the time, nobody could have predicted the horrors that were about to come our way. By the time the writing was on the wall, it was too late, and Jews couldn't get out unless they had heavyweight connections, or remaining wealth. The movie Schindler's List tells this story better than I can. I'd implore you to see it if you have not already done so.

It's clear you're not a history buff, because nothing you wrote above is close to being accurate. Far from not letting Jews leave, the Nazis were actively encouraging Jews to leave the country throughout the 1930s. At the Evian Conference in 1938, over 30 countries met to discuss allowing German Jews into their countries as political refugees en masse.

Hitler's direct quote regarding the conference: "I can only hope and expect that the other world, which has such deep sympathy for these criminals [Jews], will at least be generous enough to convert this sympathy into practical aid. We, on our part, are ready to put all these criminals at the disposal of these countries, for all I care, even on luxury ships."

So not only was Hitler not closing the borders to Jews, he offered to send them away on luxury cruise ships. The problem is that no country in the West wanted them. Then the war broke out with hundreds of thousands of Jews still living in Germany. Hitler viewed them as a potential threat as spies and saboteurs, and interned them in concentration camps like the U.S. did with its Japanese population.

And Schindler's List is a work of fiction. It's a film based on a novel, which is loosely based on historical events. It's not meant to be a documentary of what actually happened, it's meant to elicit a sympathetic emotional reaction from the viewer. It's a piece of Holocaust propaganda that portrays Jews as righteous victims and Nazis as murderous psychopaths. For example, there's a scene in the film where the Nazi head of the prison camp is randomly shooting Jews from his balcony with a high powered rifle, appearing totally cold and even bored. This is simply an outrageous fabrication, and like many of the claims surrounding the Holocaust (shrunken heads, soap made from human fat) has no basis in reality. It's a propaganda film, pure and simple. The fact that you would pass it off as actually being an accurate historic portrayal would be laughable if it weren't such a common mistake. But such is the power of the Jewish media and entertainment apparatus to produce and disseminate its propaganda.

Why is this sort of Holocaust propaganda continually produced, and why are Holocaust museums scattered across the U.S. and Europe? Norman Finkelstein (a Jew) addressed this topic damningly in his book The Holocaust Industry:

Quote:In an iconoclastic and controversial study, Norman G. Finkelstein moves from an interrogation of the place the Holocaust has come to occupy in American culture to a disturbing examination of recent Holocaust compensation agreements. It was not until the Arab-Israeli War of 1967, when Israel’s evident strength brought it into line with US foreign policy, that memory of the Holocaust began to acquire the exceptional prominence it enjoys today. Leaders of America’s Jewish community were delighted that Israel was now deemed a major strategic asset and, Finkelstein contends, exploited the Holocaust to enhance this newfound status. Their subsequent interpretations of the tragedy are often at variance with actual historical events and are employed to deflect any criticism of Israel and its supporters. Recalling Holocaust fraudsters such as Jerzy Kosinski and Binjamin Wilkomirski, as well as the demagogic constructions of writers like Daniel Goldhagen, Finkelstein contends that the main danger posed to the memory of Nazism’s victims comes not from the distortions of Holocaust deniers but from prominent, self-proclaimed guardians of Holocaust memory. Drawing on a wealth of untapped sources, he exposes the double shakedown of European countries as well as legitimate Jewish claimants, and concludes that the Holocaust industry has become an outright extortion racket. Thoroughly researched and closely argued, The Holocaust Industry is all the more disturbing and powerful because the issues it deals with are so rarely discussed.

Essentially, the Holocaust story gives Jews carte blanche to get away with a lot of shit since they can claim victim status while in actuality being the most powerful and advantaged minority group in the world. More interestingly, the Holocaust has actually become a sort of secular Jewish religion that further unites all Jews and serves to heap guilt on whites at the same time. So naturally when dealt such a trump card, the Jews play it as much as they can get away with.

"For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us.” - Romans 8:18
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Regardless of whether you think the Jews played a PR Ace of Spades with the Holocaust or not, can they be blamed for making a big deal of a massive injustice such as the Holocaust?
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Why are you standing up for Hitler? why should the Jews, who had been living for generations amongst the Germans, have to have given up their homes and lives like that?

Was it arrogance really? Would you have just left? There were Jews who stuck around and actually faught against the Nazi's when the shit hit the fans.

You act like the Jews were never really part of Germany. That's complete bullshit. they had been there for a long time before Hitler came around.

You make it sound like the Germans were taken of advantage by the Jews. Well, if it really was the Gentile's country, then how were they able "get away with it" for so long.

The Jews served a great purpose to the Germans aside from any trading or cultural exchange- they provided a convenient scapegoat when things weren't going well.

If you are going to start talking about how the Jews are some kind of cultural disease, then you might as well start saying that the Germans are all blood thirsty killers who'd throw babies up in the air and catch them on bayonetes in front of their mothers.
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Anyone ever lie about being Jewish to get the bang? I have several times. Especially when someone tosses the religious question my way and I don't wan to say Atheist.
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With regards to a Jewish players lounge. Some Jewish girls have a system set up where they have to bang a "Goya" (non Jew, I think that's the term). So have at it guys.
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If someone told you:

"I don't like you or your people, I'll even pay to put you on a luxury ship to have you leave your home."

Would you do it?
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(04-04-2014 10:25 PM)soup Wrote:  Why are you standing up for Hitler? why should the Jews, who had been living for generations amongst the Germans, have to have given up their homes and lives like that?

Was it arrogance really? Would you have just left? There were Jews who stuck around and actually faught against the Nazi's when the shit hit the fans.

You act like the Jews were never really part of Germany. That's complete bullshit. they had been there for a long time before Hitler came around.

You make it sound like the Germans were taken of advantage by the Jews. Well, if it really was the Gentile's country, then how were they able "get away with it" for so long.

The Jews served a great purpose to the Germans aside from any trading or cultural exchange- they provided a convenient scapegoat when things weren't going well.

If you are going to start talking about how the Jews are some kind of cultural disease, then you might as well start saying that the Germans are all blood thirsty killers who'd throw babies up in the air and catch them on bayonetes in front of their mothers.

With all due respect Soup, you seem to be using a ton of logical fallacies in every single post. Straw man, Ad hominem, cherry picking, ad hitlerum, appeal to moderation. ETC ETC

Plus one can use your points, replace "Germany" with "Israel" and replace "Jews" for "Palestine."
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(04-04-2014 10:32 PM)L M McCoy Wrote:  
(04-04-2014 10:25 PM)soup Wrote:  Why are you standing up for Hitler? why should the Jews, who had been living for generations amongst the Germans, have to have given up their homes and lives like that?

Was it arrogance really? Would you have just left? There were Jews who stuck around and actually faught against the Nazi's when the shit hit the fans.

You act like the Jews were never really part of Germany. That's complete bullshit. they had been there for a long time before Hitler came around.

You make it sound like the Germans were taken of advantage by the Jews. Well, if it really was the Gentile's country, then how were they able "get away with it" for so long.

The Jews served a great purpose to the Germans aside from any trading or cultural exchange- they provided a convenient scapegoat when things weren't going well.

If you are going to start talking about how the Jews are some kind of cultural disease, then you might as well start saying that the Germans are all blood thirsty killers who'd throw babies up in the air and catch them on bayonetes in front of their mothers.

With all due respect Soup, you seem to be using a ton of logical fallacies in every single post. Straw man, Ad hominem, cherry picking, ad hitlerum, appeal to moderation. ETC ETC

Plus one can use your points, replace "Germany" with "Israel" and replace "Jews" for "Palestine."

Examples?
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(04-04-2014 10:19 PM)MaleDefined Wrote:  Scorpion,

Regardless of whether you think the Jews played a PR Ace of Spades with the Holocaust or not, can they be blamed for making a big deal of a massive injustice such as the Holocaust?

This is a big problem in America.

More people died that were non Jews in the Holocaust than just Jews alone.

They never mention the millions of Poles that died.

They never talk about the countless million others that died.

They always focus just on the number of Jews dying.

This is strong propaganda that begins in the classroom.

We never learned about Holomodor or the 30+ million people Stalin killed.

Or the countless other genocides.

It's all about the Holocaust.
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(04-04-2014 10:36 PM)NY Digital Wrote:  
(04-04-2014 10:19 PM)MaleDefined Wrote:  Scorpion,

Regardless of whether you think the Jews played a PR Ace of Spades with the Holocaust or not, can they be blamed for making a big deal of a massive injustice such as the Holocaust?

This is a big problem in America.

More people died that were non Jews in the Holocaust than just Jews alone.

They never mention the millions of Poles that died.

They never talk about the countless million others that died.

They always focus just on the number of Jews dying.

This is strong propaganda that begins in the classroom.

We never learned about Holomodor or the 30+ million people Stalin killed.

Or the countless other genocides.

It's all about the Holocaust.

Actually they do teach about all that stuff, and the Gypsies as well.

I do think that they should emphasize the other victims of the Nazis as well.

It was a holocaust against all those that were not seen as part of the group.. those that were seen as inferior.
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