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(01-19-2018 11:58 PM)Travel Museums Wrote:  I’m guessing there’s enough hassle managing a condo from abroad that you’d have to be willing to come here every 3 months to touch base?

As a general rule, the very first thing that you do when deciding whether to buy a rental property overseas is to first determine whether there is a reliable and trustworthy property manager who can oversee your property. If there is not, then do not even bother looking for a rental propety in that city. Instead, buy a rental property in another city (or country). It is simply not worth the hassle (unless you intend to live there and do the work yourself). A property manager will literally make or break your rental property investment.

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I put 10% down and paid a full year of payments up front because I couldn’t get a bank account anywhere. Then I paid off the balance due a few years later. I got it for about 2.5 about 4 years ago, preselling. Currently they are selling for 4.1. If I can ever sell it that is. My current plan is to live in it when here and maybe rent it when not. Not 100% sure I want other people, especially greenbelt tourists, living in it.

I’d stay far away from the rent to own schemes. Also the finance rates are out of sight.

I’ve found that not too many people here have the ability to look ahead even a few months.

I’m sure many condos are eventually defaulted in and then resold. The apparently easy finance terms are bait for people that make bad short term decisions, in my opinion.

Anyone currently thinking about renting at the Beacon, I’d look elsewhere. The gym is 100 php to use per day, or 500 php for a month. Basically $10 but other than the dumbell section, everything else is broken.

2 of the 4 elevators are routinely out of service, and I saw this earlier in the thread and it made me laugh, a guy comes by 2-3 times a day ringing a bell to collect your garbage, and there are cockroaches everywhere.

The Arnaiz Tower is newer and the Amorsolo Tower is the newest but the Roces Tower is worn out.

I found it way overpriced to say the least. I stayed in one of the Century city buildings last time I was here and it was way better for about $150 more a month. No gym fees at that time, not sure about now.
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Hmm. Quality girls in Manila... I mean that’s kinda an oxymoron. But I feel you.

In Makati I met lots of nurses, accountants, OL, call center girls, etc. They kinda tap out at 7.

I did match with some that looked like legit 8s in makati. But mostly early on before I even arrived and exhausted the matches. Those 7-8s play you cagey. They are pretty much all around legazpi village. That’s the high end corner of Makati. They will venture as far as Ayala triangle or Glorietta to meet you.

There were overall way fewer matches working in BGC or living there. At first I thought a BGC match was a surely a sign she was upper middle class. Then I banged one in a BGC “housing estate” in Taguig. It was pretty scummy place and she had a two bedroom with a roommate. Another Taguig girl had bad skin.

It’s really dicey. You are right to make the decision before you go:
Will I notch and catch-all?
Will I be selective and go for quality?

The problem with the latter is you’re gonna have to swipe through thousands of girls. 90% of the 7+ matches you get are Ladyboy or pros.

The other 8% are young 18-24 year old girls with no money. They’re gonna hint at money, taxi money, staying with you, etc. They are essentially young pros who haven’t fully committed to being whores because they’re in school or just out and living at home.

I feel for those girls because they are facing a life of $300/month and being stuck in QC. If you game them right I guess it’s possible. Most of them would make plans then flake. They’re very unresponsive.

2% of your matches will be working 24-34 year old women who diet and exercise. They tend to be either in LTR or that’s their mindset. The pinay ones will fuck you on date one. You make have to wait up to a week to meet her though. They do have jobs and friends. Unless you’re willing to do dinner and karaoke with her group.

The only place to stay for those girls is legazpi or Grammercy. Grammercy is nice because the night market is familiar and an easy date. The food is precooked or quick and the live music is free. If anything it’s a plausible excuse for “and then?”.

As an alternative book an overpriced unit at San Lorenzo tower near Magallanes. Then walk to finders keepers and black market for dates or to pickup.

Guaranteed you will pickup there every time but guaranteed the quality is below 7. But at least you can maintain a routine. I’d she flakes, catfish, or won’t go back with you then put her on train/cab and go back to pickup.

On Thu-Sat many of my tinder matches were already going there. I met an expat who got a place next door for the purpose of pulling threesomes there with his pinay girl. He said most of the girls there are down for that after shots.

San Lorenzo is also dead next to the LRT. One of the worst parts of Manila mass transit is getting to and from the station. The trike taxis are banned from going there so you have to get a taxi. It’s so much easier to walk if you’re close enough.

Additionally girls from QC can take the metro in reverse commute traffic to meet you at 7pm for drinks. Offer to pay her cab home at 9-10pm for P200. Just a thought. That’s not field tested. But there’s no mall at that condo.
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Haha.

I’ve taken the MRT / LRT a handful of times. It can be quick and cheap if you just happen to be going the right way but that’s pretty rare.

Another time I made a huge mistake by renting a place off of Taft near Vito Cruz and traffic is so bad to get to Makati the train is actually your best option.

One hand on the phone, one on the wallet.
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(01-20-2018 12:24 AM)SeaFM Wrote:  I put 10% down and paid a full year of payments up front because I couldn’t get a bank account anywhere.

I thought that it was still fairly easy to open a bank account in the Philippines. I would expect that if you showed the bank a copy of your deed (as evidence of a legitimate need for a bank account), it would be even easier. So, what was the problem with opening a bank account?


(01-20-2018 12:24 AM)SeaFM Wrote:  I found it way overpriced to say the least. I stayed in one of the Century city buildings last time I was here and it was way better for about $150 more a month. No gym fees at that time, not sure about now.

It is my understanding based on reading investment articles (although I have not done the research myself) that Manila is overpriced right now -- in terms of both rental yields and value for your money. The next global financial crisis may present a good buying opportunity.
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Didn’t have the ACR card and no bank would let me open an account without it.
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Yeah the LRT is pretty bad. I’ve gotten to Taft/ESDSA and just taken a cab the rest of the way when the connection line is backed out to the street. I think if you go out late morning and come back early afternoon it’s not so bad.

The alternative is to stay in a dorm in Malate or ermita for the first few nights. See intramuros and rizal attractions. Do your swiping. Set up dates. Then move to a condo.

I do wish I did that. It’s a lot easier to sightsee to the one shot destinations by taxi from BGC or Makati after you’ve knocked out Rizal Park, Intramuros, Pasay. That’s would take 2-3 days if you get up early.

Then you’re not annoyed at having to cross town in crazy traffic everyday. Most of the one shot stuff in QC, Marikina, Las Pinas, etc is better done by cab anyway. If you want to bother at all. Those destiantions are pretty unremarkable and the average travel would do best to skip them.

Wow. So I was lazy about checking loads and I’m stuck at the airport trying to get out. Nothing looks good until 9pm. Text main girl. She has plans and says too emotionally difficult to see me again. Text next best bang who orders an Uber to my terminal and then we’ll find a hotel.

See this is dichotomy of Manila. Can’t we get this town to improve just enough to make it livable?? It’s so easy. Just give me like one world class museum and clean air. Please...
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Seems the nearest cluster of budget option hotels to the NIAA airport is around Saulog at the southwest corner of EDSA - TAFT. Called around a bunch of places about $30/night though some are as low as $3/hour. With actually decent reviews and good restaurant.

Great I think. Then the girl and cab driver are like dont go there. Turns out they’re all love hotels. They robbed the entire love hotel I wanted to go to there last month! He’s talking us to another place he says is safe.

I wonder if it’s feasible to have 3-4 options for safe quality place to stay near airport in Manila? Lots of vacancy, where you can pay by the day/hour for flexibility? I miss other SEA cities where you just roll of the bus in each town and get a nice room for $10. Stay a day or week they never rent it out from under you if you pay each morning or the night before.

My big problem with hub and spoke travel is that you’re either stuck in a long term place so you’re wasting $30/day rent if you travel. Or you have to know the exact dates for all your travel and stick to it by the minute.

Has anyone stayed around the cheap hotels in this area of Manila? Since it’s next to the bus station it would also be ideal for taking buses around Luzon.

I’d like to come back to Manila and explore Luzon by taking buses to Angeles, Pinatubo, Baatan, Iloilo, Rice terraces, etc. There’s also a few surf spots in Luzon. I’d be staying in each place a few days and either coming back to Manila for a night or onward travel.

For the other islands around Visayas my understanding is I’d have to fly back to Manila or hub out of Cebu?

Has anyone hubbed out of Cebu Mactan for flying to PH islands? Places there are cheaper. Some as low as $10/night which iantnao bad to eat the cost for a long weekend scuba trip.
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Got a pretty rough blowjob last night by an inexperienced pinay, had to stop her, left a hickey on the head of my cock, hope it goes away quickly, I'm pissed.

For anyone thinking of staying in SM Light Residence, I've been here for 5 days and I personally wouldn't stay here again.

Getting to your unit: Once inside the lobby you have to use an access card and go through a gate, its exactly like a subway system, then you have to take the elevator to the courtyard on the 8th floor, walk across the courtyard to your building and then take another elevator up to your unit, there is often lines at both elevators. Its a big hassle, they over engineered this place, I've never stayed in a building here that required more then a head nod to the front desk and one elevator trip to get to your unit.

My unit has cockroaches and hardly any outlets.

It has a gym but its very lacking, there's treadmills, a dumbbell rack and I think I saw 2 barbells and a few plates, I've only gone midday and its been pretty full, but its better then no gym.

Getting girls up hasn't been an issue, I think your supposed to check them in at the front desk but I just walk them to the gate, I go through with the card first, hand her the card to go through (if two people go through at the same time it sets a fucking alarm off) and then we get in the elevator.

The mall bellow (SM Light Mall) doesn't offer much, its mostly all restaurants and a grocery store. The food is standard mall food, but I've enjoyed Eduardo's Chicken and Uncle Moe's Shawarma Hub.

Greenfield district is a short trike ride away (there are trikes parked at the side entrance of SM Light all day) and offers more of a livable environment with bars/restaurants/cafes/coffee shops, greenery/walkways, EDSA Central Mall (local heavy/not fancy, there's a great vape shop on the top floor called Vapetronix) and walking distance to the big malls in Ortigas. It reminds me a lot of IT Park in Cebu.

If I was staying in this area again I'd skip SM Light and stay at Avida Towers Centera or Flare Towers which are both a short walk to Greenfields.

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Long layover in Manila and worried about traffic? Try banging at some sleezy budget options around the airport!

First place cab driver took us was $60 minimum. I asked about a budget option so he drove around the back to another place that offered short stays.

Domestic Guesthouse is about 1.5 miles from the airport. The rate was P500 for three hours. An extra hour for P100. I think there was a 12 hour option for P1000. They had a branch in Pasay too.

Mattress not too comfortable and had a vinyl cover under the sheets. Ewww. But good enough for a bang, nap, shower. They rode me back to the airport for P200.

A few bars gym massage and restaurant there too. Not sure I’d leave my bags in room unattended. Massage at airport is twice the price but inside departure gates.

Squeezed out that extra bang on easy mode. I messaged some new tinder matches I was leaving today. Some responses asked “what time?” I often wondered if you’re better off telling girls you’re only here a short time if you want to hasten banging. I guess it varies.

Tomorrow is Maids Day in HK. Think I’ll hike dragons back then head over to wan chai and continue the pinay easy mode. What’s the name of that bar where the indo and pinay single moms party and are drunk by 4pm?

Was it like Jupiter III or something. Missing from my notes and been a few years. I fucked a girl inside there a few years ago and got caught. I think the heat should have died down by now, heh. Actually they didn’t even kick me out. They yelled at her and kicked her out.
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Indeed, Jakarta is even less livable than Makati. Not many foreign food options unless you're ready to take the taxi to high-end restaurants every day. Thamrin Residences is worn out, it pales in comparison to Gramercy. The elevators are often under reparation. Next time I go to Jakarta, I'll try a higher-end residences near a mall because it sucks to be isolated in Thamrin, need to take the taxi every time you wanna go to the mall.

On the bright side, nightlife is much better than metro Manila, both in terms of quality and easiness. As for online, there are less slumdogs than in Manila (slumdogs of Indonesia don't speak english so they don't even try online).



(01-19-2018 11:30 PM)Travel Museums Wrote:  Ive read a lot of the Jakarta thread. So I know I’m gonna be as frustrated there trying to go out everyday and sightsee. Forget about having a countrywide point-to-point adventure with a girl, right?

By all accounts Jakarta is a worse hell on earth than Manila, especially if you venture back and forth to tour new destinations everyday. And again not the most reasonable hub for air travel.

Yet I’m still wondering should do Jakarta next? My thinking is sacrifice the month: get it out of the way.

Not the best attitude. But a man whore month in a Muslim country would be different enough, I suppose. It is on my short list of world metropolises to live in at least once.

I think if I go, I’m going to have to bring a guitar, try to become a tough guy ninja, or focus on body building. I just don’t see the value in staying inside all day, hanging out at malls, or a condo complex. It’s like death.

Working on yourself and notching sounds good theoretically. But online game in Manila was very distracting and time intensive. Hours could fly by just getting each days contacts into Viber and WhatsApp. (Which one is used in Jakarta?) if you’re disciplined and get reception in the gym maybe you can do this work while at least walking on the treadmill and doing reps.

Also: How much of a substantial improvement can you honestly make in one month or two weeks? With that limited time and the constant stream of interruption it’s really only good if you’ve got an autopiloted process you’re already working on. Anything involving analysis, creativity, new information, attention to detail is tough.

Again you’re dealing with a steady stream of hundreds to thousands of matches in one month. Pipelining is a mistake. Wastes even more time and weirds out some chicks.

And that’s not even hedging yourself with second accounts or online dating sites. Then you’ve set up 100 dates and half flake, get stuck in traffic, come very late, get lost in your complex, nervous/cagey, want you to come to the lobby or nearest coffee shop.

Then they do come and you’ve got to smash them for an hour and squirt that pussy juice into the ceiling 4x per day. It’s kinda impossible to get any serious work done (unless you’re already 2/3 of the way through a project and just bringing it home).

I couldn’t text back all that much initially because I was banging 4 times/day, sleeping, exhausted. Mini-relationships with the good ones. Throw in working out and in hitting every tourist site in town.

Not much time or incentive to screen hard unless you only go for the 7+ quality. But in those FEW matches you’re basically doing a modified three date game in a city that sucks for logistics. Those girls steadfastly refuse to meet at your mall.

Even the 7-8s have (mostly) been pumped and dumped by a foreigner at least once already. If you do default game they will meet halfway. Then fuck you on date two a few days later with a direct to her door date. So again a bit time intensive if you’re notching.

Only 4 of my Manila bangs were 5-6s who catfished me. It would happen when I was distracted, didn’t screen hard, or had another girl coming over hours late, and had an open window with nothing lined up.

By the same token very few of my bangs were 7-8s. The Pinay 7s (if you can call them that) are rare. They all met at my condo coffee shop and came directly upstairs with little or no resistance.

If they can stomach the obvious fib you’re not banging a shit ton of girls it’s fairly easy to bang them. There’s just not many of them and the non-pros have tough work/commutes.

The only ones I got were already working in Makati or BGC. Even getting them over from BGC (15 min cab) was tough. They wanted me to meet them at a coffee shop or bar in BGC. I refused. So I lost all those.

The only real 7-8 I got was a foreigner. She actually spent my last night with me and is holding onto some of my stuff if I come back to stay with her and travel around PH. We actually have genuine feelings for each other which was refreshing considering all the meaningless (to me) sex.

I’m only guessing but from reading other posts it seems fairly easy to the 7+ girls if youre willing to go to new Cove/Okada and the bars clubs in BGC. But I just don’t see the point. They did recently ban smoking inside so that makes it more tolerable to eat healthy, rest, workout, dress up, and go out every night.

From ready the Jakarta posts the night game ROI is similar or slightly better. However I still think the main issue is distinguishing Pros.

The few Manila bars/clubs I’ve popped into seemed to be either trash (with tinder matches there) or entirely pros. Maybe a few normal girls in groups. It seemed silly to spend all night gaming them. You can just match them on tinder and meet them later. Every weekend I would match girls who are going out with their girls to Cove or Revel. Maybe half turned out to be pros or ladyboys!

The rest would gladly meet you at 7pm at a coffee shop. You just have to go through the above processes to bang them. To me that 8-10pm bang is way better than a drunk 3-5am club bang.
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What’s wrong with light residences
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Thamrin residence is pretty good for value for the price. It’s abit old but not that bad, if you want luxury yes look for ritz Carlton.
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(01-20-2018 04:31 PM)worldtraveler3 Wrote:  Thamrin residence is pretty good for value for the price. It’s abit old but not that bad, if you want luxury yes look for ritz Carlton.

Thamrin is overrated, the internet is by the worst and most expensive in the city. Worse, sometimes you have to wait 10-15 minutes (or even more) for an elevator to arrive as they only have 2 (or even 1) elevators for the entire 60 story building when they really should have 6-8.

However, it is a relatively nice building and girls always know where it is, it has some pluses, but I bet there are better options.

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(01-20-2018 08:46 AM)FastBang King Wrote:  Indeed, Jakarta is even less livable than Makati. Not many foreign food options unless you're ready to take the taxi to high-end restaurants every day. Thamrin Residences is worn out, it pales in comparison to Gramercy. The elevators are often under reparation. Next time I go to Jakarta, I'll try a higher-end residences near a mall because it sucks to be isolated in Thamrin, need to take the taxi every time you wanna go to the mall.

On the bright side, nightlife is much better than metro Manila, both in terms of quality and easiness. As for online, there are less slumdogs than in Manila (slumdogs of Indonesia don't speak english so they don't even try online).



(01-19-2018 11:30 PM)Travel Museums Wrote:  Ive read a lot of the Jakarta thread. So I know I’m gonna be as frustrated there trying to go out everyday and sightsee. Forget about having a countrywide point-to-point adventure with a girl, right?

By all accounts Jakarta is a worse hell on earth than Manila, especially if you venture back and forth to tour new destinations everyday. And again not the most reasonable hub for air travel.

Yet I’m still wondering should do Jakarta next? My thinking is sacrifice the month: get it out of the way.

Not the best attitude. But a man whore month in a Muslim country would be different enough, I suppose. It is on my short list of world metropolises to live in at least once.

I think if I go, I’m going to have to bring a guitar, try to become a tough guy ninja, or focus on body building. I just don’t see the value in staying inside all day, hanging out at malls, or a condo complex. It’s like death.

Working on yourself and notching sounds good theoretically. But online game in Manila was very distracting and time intensive. Hours could fly by just getting each days contacts into Viber and WhatsApp. (Which one is used in Jakarta?) if you’re disciplined and get reception in the gym maybe you can do this work while at least walking on the treadmill and doing reps.

Also: How much of a substantial improvement can you honestly make in one month or two weeks? With that limited time and the constant stream of interruption it’s really only good if you’ve got an autopiloted process you’re already working on. Anything involving analysis, creativity, new information, attention to detail is tough.

Again you’re dealing with a steady stream of hundreds to thousands of matches in one month. Pipelining is a mistake. Wastes even more time and weirds out some chicks.

And that’s not even hedging yourself with second accounts or online dating sites. Then you’ve set up 100 dates and half flake, get stuck in traffic, come very late, get lost in your complex, nervous/cagey, want you to come to the lobby or nearest coffee shop.

Then they do come and you’ve got to smash them for an hour and squirt that pussy juice into the ceiling 4x per day. It’s kinda impossible to get any serious work done (unless you’re already 2/3 of the way through a project and just bringing it home).

I couldn’t text back all that much initially because I was banging 4 times/day, sleeping, exhausted. Mini-relationships with the good ones. Throw in working out and in hitting every tourist site in town.

Not much time or incentive to screen hard unless you only go for the 7+ quality. But in those FEW matches you’re basically doing a modified three date game in a city that sucks for logistics. Those girls steadfastly refuse to meet at your mall.

Even the 7-8s have (mostly) been pumped and dumped by a foreigner at least once already. If you do default game they will meet halfway. Then fuck you on date two a few days later with a direct to her door date. So again a bit time intensive if you’re notching.

Only 4 of my Manila bangs were 5-6s who catfished me. It would happen when I was distracted, didn’t screen hard, or had another girl coming over hours late, and had an open window with nothing lined up.

By the same token very few of my bangs were 7-8s. The Pinay 7s (if you can call them that) are rare. They all met at my condo coffee shop and came directly upstairs with little or no resistance.

If they can stomach the obvious fib you’re not banging a shit ton of girls it’s fairly easy to bang them. There’s just not many of them and the non-pros have tough work/commutes.

The only ones I got were already working in Makati or BGC. Even getting them over from BGC (15 min cab) was tough. They wanted me to meet them at a coffee shop or bar in BGC. I refused. So I lost all those.

The only real 7-8 I got was a foreigner. She actually spent my last night with me and is holding onto some of my stuff if I come back to stay with her and travel around PH. We actually have genuine feelings for each other which was refreshing considering all the meaningless (to me) sex.

I’m only guessing but from reading other posts it seems fairly easy to the 7+ girls if youre willing to go to new Cove/Okada and the bars clubs in BGC. But I just don’t see the point. They did recently ban smoking inside so that makes it more tolerable to eat healthy, rest, workout, dress up, and go out every night.

From ready the Jakarta posts the night game ROI is similar or slightly better. However I still think the main issue is distinguishing Pros.

The few Manila bars/clubs I’ve popped into seemed to be either trash (with tinder matches there) or entirely pros. Maybe a few normal girls in groups. It seemed silly to spend all night gaming them. You can just match them on tinder and meet them later. Every weekend I would match girls who are going out with their girls to Cove or Revel. Maybe half turned out to be pros or ladyboys!

The rest would gladly meet you at 7pm at a coffee shop. You just have to go through the above processes to bang them. To me that 8-10pm bang is way better than a drunk 3-5am club bang.
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Jakarta is inferior in every way to Manila, women included.
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RE: The Philippines thread
(Yesterday 03:58 AM)the-dream Wrote:  Jakarta is inferior in every way to Manila, women included.

How old are you, the-dream?
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RE: The Philippines thread
(Yesterday 03:58 AM)the-dream Wrote:  Jakarta is inferior in every way to Manila, women included.

Disagree. Top tier much better then Manila with far less thirst. The average girl is busted in both countries, but yeah the average indo girl probably I'd rank dead last for SEA.
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