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Are Lawyer Chicks Really All That Bad?
The George Clooney engagement thread got me thinking about something, are female lawyers really all that bad? I'm well aware of the stereotype about them being ball busting, over-ambitious, unfeminine and so on, but I find it hard to square with my experience with female law students on my campus.
I know a lot of law students on campus, I've gotten with a few of them and there's a lot of them in some of my classes, they even make a majority of the students in one of my majors. I've found them to be no more masculine than the liberal arts students, the 2nd most attractive (after the health/nutrition girls) and for what it's worth the most intelligent, so I struggle to understand what the forum thinks is wrong with them. Out of many law girls I only know two who turned out to fit the ball-busting stereotype and both were outliers, one lesbian and one libertarian that I briefly casually dated a while back who somehow still came off as feminine...
A bit of background on the situation here: most professional entry postgraduate degrees like law or medicine are mainly done at the undergraduate level in my country, with most law students here completing a 5 year long concurrent B.A/LL.B double degree (a Bachelor degree alone takes 3 years here) to lighten the load of starting a law degree while still a teenager. As such, almost all the people I know in the field of law are still in their late teens or early 20's. These girls also all come from well-off families and elite private high schools and needed to graduate high school the top 2% of the state grade wise (like most degrees in the country admission is based solely on academics) to get into law at my university, and in my opinion girls from that kind of background are usually better than average both looks and personality wise, which I think is the reason why the law girls are one of the hottest groups on my campus.
So either these girls are going to go downhill really fast when they actually start work as lawyers (albeit a fair few of them say they have no interest in actually doing so), the situation at my university is an exception to the norm or the stereotype of the lawyer cunt is overblown.
Can any RVF lawyers with intimate knowledge of this topic chime in?
(This post was last modified: 04-27-2014 11:15 AM by Deluge.)
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04-27-2014 11:09 AM |
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WestIndianArchie
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RE: Are Lawyer Chicks Really All That Bad?
RVF attorney here, They're not any worse than any other chick. I've fucked plenty. They enjoy a smart guy, but not smart in a way that she is smart, unless he's a more accomplished lawyer in her specialty, then it's a pissing contest.
Occasionally you'll run across a big firm lawyer chick trying to make partner, but she won't have time for much more than fucking.
The ones who aren't trying to make partner, mommy track, are looking for their betters, much like all career minded chicks looking to have it all.
The non big firm lawyer chicks, ie 96% of all lawyers, are just as entitled as every other girl.
In general aren't any less or more argumentative than regular chicks. But unlike a regular girl she might go lawyer mode on you, and most non lawyer folks don't know how to argue at all. Engineers and tech types are the worst, very reductionist and absolutist. So you can't win an argument logically with a typical lawyer chick, nor will you win the emotional one, because she's a woman.
As for them being unusually masculine and aggressive, that's career women for the most part.
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RE: Are Lawyer Chicks Really All That Bad?
The Australian ones are not as bad, IME, but admittedly I only know students and young ones just out of uni and starting work. Better looking than than other schools on campus on average, IMO, and easily in the top 3. Not sure about intelligence, I don't care and don't find most women that smart anyway. I do deal with too many PhDs in STEM and Med on a regular basis so education & general academic intelligence don't impress me much.
Some have the bad habits of interviewing you about your own career and ambitions, but not too hard to break it and redirect the convos. One chick I hooked up with when she was a student asked me on the first night we met (and hooked up later) what I did for a living and what I planned for my future, within minutes of being introduced by a mutual friend! She also tried to do a background check on me as I looked somewhat unusual for Asians, so I made up a silly family story from a nonexistent island, which she ate up. And 6 years later, when we met again at a party and hooked up once more, she still remembered and asked me if I'm still in my first shit kicking job out of uni or if I've managed to get anywhere in life. Memory of an elephant!
The worst thing is that they're always crazy busy, and any fun time is filled with insane amount of alcohol and late nights. I hooked up with one (Asian) and tried to date another two (a half asian and a blonde), but I prefer good health and good sleep over trying to keep up with their crazy lifestyle.
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RE: Are Lawyer Chicks Really All That Bad?
(04-27-2014 02:59 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote: RVF attorney here, They're not any worse than any other chick. I've fucked plenty. They enjoy a smart guy, but not smart in a way that she is smart, unless he's a more accomplished lawyer in her specialty, then it's a pissing contest.
Occasionally you'll run across a big firm lawyer chick trying to make partner, but she won't have time for much more than fucking.
The ones who aren't trying to make partner, mommy track, are looking for their betters, much like all career minded chicks looking to have it all.
The non big firm lawyer chicks, ie 96% of all lawyers, are just as entitled as every other girl.
In general aren't any less or more argumentative than regular chicks. But unlike a regular girl she might go lawyer mode on you, and most non lawyer folks don't know how to argue at all. Engineers and tech types are the worst, very reductionist and absolutist. So you can't win an argument logically with a typical lawyer chick, nor will you win the emotional one, because she's a woman.
As for them being unusually masculine and aggressive, that's career women for the most part.
WIA
Good post, any chance we could see a breakdown on this or a thread?
I'm sure members would appreciate hearing from RVF lawyers/attorneys on traps to avoid or ways to handle themselves better in these discussions.
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04-28-2014 12:33 AM |
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RE: Are Lawyer Chicks Really All That Bad?
From my (very limited; mostly through social circles) experience, they're still outgoing and chill while in law school. Remember most of them in my age group are finishing law school or about to enter the workforce.
Call it classism, or it could be my upbringing, but I'm more comfortable around the APS/GSV types so I move in those cliques easily. I generally do better with smarter types and they're the ones you can run intellectual/wordly game on further before being friendzoned. They're also less likely to be airheads, be more naturally cute and more outspoken on current issues. Funny thing is, this tends to be more so the norm at G8 institutions than say, Deakin or Macquarie. Just try not to get them started on feminism and refugee rights, although they'll fuck like rabbits anyway.
That being said unless you're looking to wife up stay the hell away from the Comm/Law types as they're most likely to race the Big Six ladder. The ones who don't actually intend to practise law afterwards are less soulless (even though half of them end up at a firm anyway), you'll know how to spot the type soon enough -- especially if you're taking International Relations, History or Political Science units -- they're the ones that gravitate towards Model United Nations/student politics/activist type shit. Lots of them spend an inordinate amount of time on their course or have ended up doing a JD, even though they're still idealistic enough to want to use their degree for refugee policy and such.
So yeah, as much bullshit as law school throws at you; it doesn't seem to be as much of an arsefuck as actual legal practice -- certainly not as much as when the knives are flying at the stage where they're gunning to become Partners.
(This post was last modified: 04-28-2014 05:34 AM by JWLZG.)
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04-28-2014 05:26 AM |
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RE: Are Lawyer Chicks Really All That Bad?
I would say there is definitely something less feminine and fun about them, more so than women in finance or consulting, or some other high pressure profession. They seem more rigid and less flexible, so I tend to avoid, I just dont feel comfortable around them. I have dated a cop, girls in top finance firms, school principle, a phd and phd candidates, etc, and lawyers seem like another beast all together that I have somehow avoided. Have also seen friends who married them and how miserable their lives are being married to them. I usually get this gut reaction about them within the first few minutes upon meeting.
(This post was last modified: 04-28-2014 07:01 AM by Vaun.)
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WestIndianArchie
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