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(10-12-2015 05:27 AM)KingOfMoscow Wrote:  I have been in Moscow quite few times in last 3 years. I would recommend a pub called Spb too. That is a cheap bar near Arbatskaya station (could be a bit tricky to find) on which mostly students hangs out. I have been there 3 times and never left with empty hands. Especially Thursday - Saturday between 5pm-10pm it is one of the best spot in Moscow IMHO. Beer and food is cheap and %80-90 young crowd with drinking attitude.

I pipeline on internet before my trip and somehow try to invite the girls to my place on first date (meeting). I use airbnb / booking.com and rent an apartment in arbat generally . Before meeting with girls i spend some time online chatting with them to show that i am no weirdo , have good job, social life and culture. I found out that most of the russian girls would not come home at same night with me if i meet with them in bar.

I have quite few girls lined up (mostly 6-7 aged between 19-24) for this Thursday to Sunday. I normally have 1-2 bangs in 3 days in moscow and pretty much never with same girl .

If someone is around this thursday to sunday in moscow, give me a shout.

Yes king, offer a little more detail. 1 or 2 bangs with different young girls, in 3 days, is just about as well, as a mere mortal can do, in Russia or Ukraine.
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Yup yup.

i have been reading the forum for a while and i do understand the suspicious approach.

I had been 14-15 times in moscow in last 2 years thanks to cheap flights with easyjet.

What i do :

- 3-4 weeks before my trip , i start online work on girls by using same social channels mentioned in this thread many times. (i do say i am working in moscow ,using fake gps, but busy nowadays..)
- I talk with 15-20 girls and try to escalate the chat topic to a bit more private life quickly (within days). Some girls pull themselves off in that point. So i try to find out : girls who likes to drink, go out and a bit open minded.
- Lots of compliments , caring about their life : making social network search about them what they like . Lots of jokes. i send them photos about my life (being casual,this is my garden , i am reading this book..). For me the biggest issue for girls is trust. So i try to gain their trust.

- i invite them to my place (generally i rent an nice apartment in center) to cook or chat or drink whiskey before going out. i choose a bar close to my place and after bar trying to get her back to my place. (out of )

- I see 2-3 different girl on a day. pick one of them to go out the one likes drinking , dancing.. the most sometimes. i go out with her friends. If i kissed the girl on first day, i try to meet with her again.

- When i used to go to bar/club alone (or with a wing), normally i drink and get myself into dancing mood and forget about getting the bang. In all those times i had only twice real one night stand as far as i can recall (meeting with a girl in bar/club whom i never talked before and getting her to my place ).


As for me i am in my early 30s (but girls say 27-28). i dont say my real age to girls. I can dance and hit to gym 3-4 times in a week. In terms of looks an average guy in europe but in russia above average. I dress up ok and can be a real party guy . i dont go for 9s . i could say my target is 7s and 8s (sometimes i land on 6s). I dont do day game as i sleep until 1-2pm and recover until 3-4 pm. I dont go to top end bars (no soho rooms, barbados...). I dont speak russian. I know some words , phrases. I know the history of russia and culture to give references while i am talking to a girl.

On friday night for example : 4-5 different girls want to meet and some of them want to bring their female friends and asked me whether i have male friends or not. I know some russian male friends but they suck. They make me to drink too much too.

Sorry I dont have writing discipline and i have been many times in russia so i am writing whatever comes to my mind a bit randomly.
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(10-13-2015 05:30 AM)KingOfMoscow Wrote:  Yup yup.

i have been reading the forum for a while and i do understand the suspicious approach.

I had been 14-15 times in moscow in last 2 years thanks to cheap flights with easyjet.

What i do :

- 3-4 weeks before my trip , i start online work on girls by using same social channels mentioned in this thread many times. (i do say i am working in moscow ,using fake gps, but busy nowadays..)
- I talk with 15-20 girls and try to escalate the chat topic to a bit more private life quickly (within days). Some girls pull themselves off in that point. So i try to find out : girls who likes to drink, go out and a bit open minded.
- Lots of compliments , caring about their life : making social network search about them what they like . Lots of jokes. i send them photos about my life (being casual,this is my garden , i am reading this book..). For me the biggest issue for girls is trust. So i try to gain their trust.

- i invite them to my place (generally i rent an nice apartment in center) to cook or chat or drink whiskey before going out. i choose a bar close to my place and after bar trying to get her back to my place. (out of )

- I see 2-3 different girl on a day. pick one of them to go out the one likes drinking , dancing.. the most sometimes. i go out with her friends. If i kissed the girl on first day, i try to meet with her again.

- When i used to go to bar/club alone (or with a wing), normally i drink and get myself into dancing mood and forget about getting the bang. In all those times i had only twice real one night stand as far as i can recall (meeting with a girl in bar/club whom i never talked before and getting her to my place ).


As for me i am in my early 30s (but girls say 27-28). i dont say my real age to girls. I can dance and hit to gym 3-4 times in a week. In terms of looks an average guy in europe but in russia above average. I dress up ok and can be a real party guy . i dont go for 9s . i could say my target is 7s and 8s (sometimes i land on 6s). I dont do day game as i sleep until 1-2pm and recover until 3-4 pm. I dont go to top end bars (no soho rooms, barbados...). I dont speak russian. I know some words , phrases. I know the history of russia and culture to give references while i am talking to a girl.

On friday night for example : 4-5 different girls want to meet and some of them want to bring their female friends and asked me whether i have male friends or not. I know some russian male friends but they suck. They make me to drink too much too.

Sorry I dont have writing discipline and i have been many times in russia so i am writing whatever comes to my mind a bit randomly.

Seems like to regularly and quickly bang russian broads you must gain trust and then have them drink alcohol.
Also since you don't know Russian, I assume you must be mostly banging english speaking russian girls.
Could those 3 factors be the main reasons for your success over there?
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i would say trust, caring about them (asking about how was their exam, does she like the new boots i bought...) , showing off a bit (books i read, how much stuff i know about russia and other stuff, etymology, telling stories..), sometimes giving reasonable amount of hope ,picking the ones who drinks alcohol , also i buy some cool gifts from eueope for some of the girls to make them remember me (city magnets,socks , underwear)

When you have 10-12 options, it is not so hard to shortlist the most promising ones by making the conversation a bit more direct , asking about their last kiss, last date...i am avoiding the ones which dont drink, i dont get the positive feeling from their chat, who dont send me their photos

i only had 3 or 4 non english speaking girls in russia (knowing basic yes/no..etc). in those cases my russian speaking friends picked the girls from cafe/pub then i advanced with dance moves and used google translate . in terms of ONS I had same issues in the beginning . When i meet with girls , kiss and dance were easy but they wont come over on same night. Most of the girls i had in russia are english speaking university students (from intermediate to advance). I think trust is the main issue for most of the girls. There are some girls who are 6-7s might come on first night but not many. There are low quality bars: Rock & Roll , Crisis Janra, Cuba libre, Chesterfield, Dont tell mama,Gogol...etc to pick up that kind of girls as far as i experienced . My russian mate had success twice in 7-8 days by just asking directly to come over for sex (one was 5 and one was 6).

when i was not pipe lining , i was hanging out around here with a russian mate(s). But in my last 4-5 trips i always arranged girls before hand. Also i generally try not to lose contact with some girls even they have boyfriends and make them to invite their friends with them to my place for house party . Now i have many friends but most of the time i dont have time to see them in short trips. Twice in a year i go there for longer periods such as 10 days.
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(10-13-2015 05:30 AM)KingOfMoscow Wrote:  Yup yup.

i have been reading the forum for a while and i do understand the suspicious approach.

I had been 14-15 times in moscow in last 2 years thanks to cheap flights with easyjet.

What i do :

- 3-4 weeks before my trip , i start online work on girls by using same social channels mentioned in this thread many times. (i do say i am working in moscow ,using fake gps, but busy nowadays..)
- I talk with 15-20 girls and try to escalate the chat topic to a bit more private life quickly (within days). Some girls pull themselves off in that point. So i try to find out : girls who likes to drink, go out and a bit open minded.
- Lots of compliments , caring about their life : making social network search about them what they like . Lots of jokes. i send them photos about my life (being casual,this is my garden , i am reading this book..). For me the biggest issue for girls is trust. So i try to gain their trust.


- i invite them to my place (generally i rent an nice apartment in center) to cook or chat or drink whiskey before going out. i choose a bar close to my place and after bar trying to get her back to my place. (out of )

- I see 2-3 different girl on a day. pick one of them to go out the one likes drinking , dancing.. the most sometimes. i go out with her friends. If i kissed the girl on first day, i try to meet with her again.

- When i used to go to bar/club alone (or with a wing), normally i drink and get myself into dancing mood and forget about getting the bang. In all those times i had only twice real one night stand as far as i can recall (meeting with a girl in bar/club whom i never talked before and getting her to my place ).


As for me i am in my early 30s (but girls say 27-28). i dont say my real age to girls. I can dance and hit to gym 3-4 times in a week. In terms of looks an average guy in europe but in russia above average. I dress up ok and can be a real party guy . i dont go for 9s . i could say my target is 7s and 8s (sometimes i land on 6s). I dont do day game as i sleep until 1-2pm and recover until 3-4 pm. I dont go to top end bars (no soho rooms, barbados...). I dont speak russian. I know some words , phrases. I know the history of russia and culture to give references while i am talking to a girl.

On friday night for example : 4-5 different girls want to meet and some of them want to bring their female friends and asked me whether i have male friends or not. I know some russian male friends but they suck. They make me to drink too much too.

Sorry I dont have writing discipline and i have been many times in russia so i am writing whatever comes to my mind a bit randomly.

Wow...that is some crazy amount of time spent talking to 15-20 girls and pipe-lining almost for a month. Now it makes sense what you're saying however I don't know how you guys do it!? For me it is a waste of time and resources to spend hours and hours on the computer/phone(skype) when day-game and night-game can produce quicker results over there. Also, do 5's even exist in Moscow? Places I hit up there like Tiki-bar or Garage I swear every girl was more than bangable (and this was on offnights).
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(10-13-2015 05:30 AM)KingOfMoscow Wrote:  i start online work on girls by using same social channels mentioned in this thread many times

Are you talking about VK? mamba?

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I'm thinking of heading to Moscow for a week for New Years, anyone got any advice why it might be bad? Pretty much have made up my mind..
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I am well aware this is the most ignorant post on here but anyway.

Okay. Its my second day here in Kazan. I am here for work, but going out at nights.

I like the place, it seems really nice, its cheap, already seen the most beautiful woman of Kazan in the shopping mall yesterday.

But I don't really know what the fuck I'm doing. So I was hoping you guys could shed some light on it all.

Is shopping just not a thing here? I haven't seen shops this poorly stocked since I lived in Norway. I have done a few kilmoeters of walking and only found 1 supermarket. Granted I can't read the signs outside or anything.
Where do I go to get like... Bath-tub made vodka?
My luggage got left in Moscow, so I had to go out and buy a change of socks, underwear and a t-shirt. That took me about 2 hours of last night. I'm pretty sure I am in the city center. The Kremlin is just down the road.

Also I was really expecting this place to be, not very multicultural at all. Like Poland. But so far, when I walk around, it's like 50% white people. I don't know if all these asian looking people are Russian or not, but it felt like being in Sydney.
Ans whats with all the mosques? I wouldn't have thought Russians would be tolerant of anything! And these Tartan people, whats the deal with them? Are they like an ethnic minority here?

So anyway, I have been eating at the hotel up until now. I thought all those restaurants out on the street were closed. they don't look inviting at all. They all have small windows with curtains covering 70% of them. Am I supposed to tip here?

Anyway, the place is cool, not at all what I was expecting. I haven't even been beaten up by a gopnik yet. It's cheap, all I need is a group of English speaking alcoholics and I would be set.

Any tips or suggestions of things I should look out for?

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(12-01-2015 01:06 PM)spalex Wrote:  Is shopping just not a thing here? I haven't seen shops this poorly stocked since I lived in Norway. I have done a few kilmoeters of walking and only found 1 supermarket. Granted I can't read the signs outside or anything.
Where do I go to get like... Bath-tub made vodka?
My luggage got left in Moscow, so I had to go out and buy a change of socks, underwear and a t-shirt. That took me about 2 hours of last night. I'm pretty sure I am in the city center. The Kremlin is just down the road.
Just post the street you're staying on and what you're looking for. Either myself or someone else who speaks Russian can look it up for you.

(12-01-2015 01:06 PM)spalex Wrote:  Also I was really expecting this place to be, not very multicultural at all. Like Poland. But so far, when I walk around, it's like 50% white people. I don't know if all these asian looking people are Russian or not, but it felt like being in Sydney.
Ans whats with all the mosques? I wouldn't have thought Russians would be tolerant of anything! And these Tartan people, whats the deal with them?
LOL... You're in the capital of Tatarstan. Half the population is Tatar (those Asian-looking people), the other half Russian. The mosques belong to the Tatars.
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Been in Russia for 3 months now. I'm approaching burnout stage and looking forward to getting some sun in CA for Christmas and returning for 5 more months in January. I'm getting tired of not understanding anyone on the streets and the cultural issues like people cutting everywhere and all the pushing in the Metro. I haven't left the city at all in 3 months, mostly due to class 6 days a week which limits my movement to surrounding areas.

My initial approach madness and night exploration have mostly faded, however I finally got in some bangs. Slowing down is mostly due to my relationship with a 19 YO 8 who is sexy, innocent and great. She comes from social circle and has never had a bf. Her internet presence is extremely limited in scope. Why not make a guy 16 years older your first boyfriend? I have also another 22 YO 7 that I had to release back to the wild this week. She just wanted too much from me and it was too hard to keep up. Lastly got my first internet bang this month from a 40 YO milf who came direct to my place. She got her American flag within 15 minutes of the meet. Probably the craziest thing that happened though this month was hooking up with a 20 YO 7.5 latina girl from CA. I think she just missed home a little and wanted to mate with someone familiar. I'm also just far enough outside her social circle that she could get away with it. She claimed it was her first in RF.

I left my tinder on for a couple months and never checked it. When I came back I got 100 matches in two days. Unfortunately with all night classes, poor logistics and 2 mini relationships it has been hard to meet new girls. I have been flaked on a couple times. A couple of girls I have been trying to meet are in the 8-9 range. I'm exercising quite a bit to stay sane and making progress on my body. I do have a private swim lesson tomorrow from an instructor at the gym who gave me a kick board while swimming laps because my technique is horrible Bash (I'm an avid surfer and excellent rough water swimmer) I might just puller her in the water tomorrow.

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I just want to jump in and talk about airfare, the big obstacle in getting to Russia - certainly the thing that kept me from there the longest. I just booked a trip to the St Petersburg for roughly $500 USD. I'm sure it's been mentioned somewhere on the forum, but if you can find yourself in a hub city (LA, Dallas, NY, etc) you can make the trip for significantly less money. I got a flight to just such a city for about $50 USD. Plus the $450 the ticket to the RF cost, I think that's a pretty reasonable sum. Just make sure you book your ticket FROM the hub city, not from the city you originate in. I seriously can't say enough good things about my last trip over there, I guess the second helping speaks for itself.
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With the Ruble meltdown to 84 per dollar, I'm seeing a significant pickup in online game from both Russian cupid and tinder.
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Anyone capitalizing on the weak rouble now and renting any flats or buying other items up for the coming months?

Also, I'm trying to remember the website for renting flats that is often used, looking for something now in Moscow for the summer for about a month. Can anyone remind me or suggest one?
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Some economic advice is needed. I have a lot of rubles and want to exchange them into British pounds. Should I wait until the ruble stabilises a bit, or should I just cash them in now. Any advice appreciated as I am hearing different things from different people.
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Russia is ridiculously expensive and it doesn't matter what is the exchange rate of the Ruble cause the prices are based on the USD anyway. The only stuff that will be cheaper are the groceries on the local market.

Ukraine - Much cheaper, nice beaches, value as a foreigner.

Both xenophobic and cold so the cons are the same.
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(01-21-2016 07:42 AM)Constitution45 Wrote:  Some economic advice is needed. I have a lot of rubles and want to exchange them into British pounds. Should I wait until the ruble stabilises a bit, or should I just cash them in now. Any advice appreciated as I am hearing different things from different people.

It depends on whether you're desperate for cash right now. If not, you might as well hold on. The oil price can't go much lower, so maybe in the medium-term future the oil price will rise a bit.

If you need money in a hurry, and you don't have any other options, then go for it.
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Quote:It depends on whether you're desperate for cash right now. If not, you might as well hold on. The oil price can't go much lower, so maybe in the medium-term future the oil price will rise a bit.

If you need money in a hurry, and you don't have any other options, then go for it.

I've been reading since the sanctions have been lifted from Iran, allowing Iranian oil to market, cost per barrel could see $20 - $16 in the near future.

Saudi and the west are seeking to collapse Russia.
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There is something magical about meeting a girl from a remote town in a 1st world city like Moscow and taking a trip to meet her at her provincial city. I went to Ulyanovsk this weekend to meet up with my girl, it was an amazing experience. I highly recommend gaming provincial girls in 1st tier cities and following them back to their small towns. They will blossom when at home.
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Congrats WashedUPVet however your biggest achievement is not picking up girls in Russia or the colorful stories but managing to land a good job in Moscow.

That is really the "Holy Grail" which 99% of us Westerners cannot achieve. I've been pondering this for over a year and even though i'm highly educated, and have good savings I unfortunately work a job that requires "face to face" meetings with clients and that is not directly transferrable to the FSU (at least not without knowing someone there).

Any advice for those that wish to work in Russia and not just travel as tourists?
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(01-26-2016 11:31 AM)TripleG Wrote:  Any advice for those that wish to work in Russia and not just travel as tourists?

The easiest way in my opinion, and I work on it, it's to work for a global company that has presence in Russia. You start working in your own country or in Europe for such company and you try to be sent as an expat in Russia.

My company for instance takes care of everything related to visa, moving, flat/furnitures and flights. The hardest part is to find such company and the opportunity. But it happens and so far I haven't found any other way without having to deal with everything related to work permit, long stay visa, etc.
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Beware of working with a russian employer or someone you found online in Russia, make sure you get a work visa and registered as soon as possible. Check the reputability of your employer. If you teach english, check David's ESL cafe forum. A business visa is kinda risky. Never give your passport to your employer unless for a visa. Employers can keep your passport just to keep you from fucking leaving and the embassy can't do shit!! They can withhold your pay and passport and you are effed. if If your boss doesn't registered, do it yourself or he is gonna fuck you over. The police is so shit there, don't call them even if your passport is stolen cuz they will just detain you and try to extract money or send to the immigration office. Dude, once you are in the immigration office, fines and being detained....
Of course If you find a good employer, you can have a great time and meet new people and everything.
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Just a thought, but I had a realization today that often when I speak my awful Russian to a girl in a cafe, hotel, on the street or other experience..... I often get a little smirk or smile when the girl realizes I'm not Russian and obviously a foreigner. This is a quick and seemingly uncontrolled reaction from inside the girl. I look semi Russian so It is not completely obvious until I open my mouth. Has anyone experienced this momentary flash of a "Russian Smile/Smirk?" It happens about every other day to me it seems.

Caveat: I also experience the bitter Russian girl every other day that is frustrated with the roadblock I put into the transaction and wants me to hurry me along in line.
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RE: The Russia Thread
^^^
I get the same reaction when using my basic Polish here in Gdansk as an obvious foreigner (I look Mexican).

I think it shows that you've invested in their country, which they appreciate, since these languages aren't popular for foreigners to learn.
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