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(01-26-2016 02:20 AM)WashedUPVet Wrote:  There is something magical about meeting a girl from a remote town in a 1st world city like Moscow and taking a trip to meet her at her provincial city. I went to Ulyanovsk this weekend to meet up with my girl, it was an amazing experience. I highly recommend gaming provincial girls in 1st tier cities and following them back to their small towns. They will blossom when at home.

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You cant beat provincial girls. I find them way more sweeter than their big city cousins.

I am currently seeing a bird from Gomel. Met her recently here in Minsk and she is already inviting me to go back with her and check out her home town. Never been there so looking forward to it.
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I don't know exactly why I have a good feeling about Kazan or Tashkent. I will probably learn the hard way, but at the least they will think I am a local.
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^^^
That may or may not be a good thing, depending on what you want.

Based on Roosh's "go where you don't look like a local for easier sex" tip, my experience is that looking like a local makes you more k-selected, while not looking like a local makes you more r-selected.

k-selected = perceived as a provider more = more dates, but more of those dates go nowhere
r-selected = perceived as a cad more = less dates, but more of those dates go somewhere

Of course, you can compensate with Game and style, but just an FYI.
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Isn't Russia more suited for the provider game?
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(02-01-2016 03:46 AM)262 Wrote:  ^^^
That may or may not be a good thing, depending on what you want.

Based on Roosh's "go where you don't look like a local for easier sex" tip, my experience is that looking like a local makes you more k-selected, while not looking like a local makes you more r-selected.

k-selected = perceived as a provider more = more dates, but more of those dates go nowhere
r-selected = perceived as a cad more = less dates, but more of those dates go somewhere

Of course, you can compensate with Game and style, but just an FYI.

There is just not much data on specific Russian or FSU cities. But yeah, I expect it to be hard. And as darker looking guy in that part of the world, I am sure things have not gotten easier.
So finding a Russian speaking city with darker men, does not seem like that bad of a strategy. And from pics I have seen from both Kazan and Tashkent, the variety in the women is stunning.
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(02-01-2016 02:47 PM)chochemonger1 Wrote:  There is just not much data on specific Russian or FSU cities. But yeah, I expect it to be hard. And as darker looking guy in that part of the world, I am sure things have not gotten easier.
So finding a Russian speaking city with darker men, does not seem like that bad of a strategy. And from pics I have seen from both Kazan and Tashkent, the variety in the women is stunning.


Speaking of data on specific cities and cities with darker men read my Krasnodar datasheet.
https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-53516.html
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Should be an interesting weekend for me here in Russia. I'm flying to Novosibirsk on Friday for 4 days. I have pipelined a nice 20 YO to meet me at the airport and escort me into the city proper. My confidence on non flake is 75%. I have looked here for some data on the city, but it is only mentioned in passing comments. No data sheet that I can find. I also have a woman closer to my age who is to show me around on Sunday. I'm doing some research on nightclubs as I would like to hit a couple Friday/Saturday. On Monday I join a nice 23/22 YO set of a Norwegian Girl and her Brazilian friend who invited me to stay with them at Lake Bakail for 4 days. We met in my Russian class in Moscow and she overheard me telling a friend that I wanted to go to Siberia. She already had this planned and invited me, sending me her itinerary within 3 minutes of meeting her. It is amazing how things seem to go in streaks. I was dry with women for a while, now it seems like it's pouring with opportunities. I was opened and number closed at the gym today by a thirsty Russian girl who used to live in Florida (31), picked up the Siberian flag (27) Sunday night while getting a 3rd night lay from nightgame. She actually texted me after our date and went home to discuss her desires with roommates. They like me (probably because one of them is in love with a fellow forum member) so it was game on around 2330 when they encouraged her to go for the bang. I'm feeling a little bad for my main chick right now as her level of devotion is increasing while my side pursuits are elevating. Maybe I'm more open to meeting girls over 24 and thus the locks to the canal are lowering. 4 months left in Russia. Doesn't feel like I have much time.
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(02-16-2016 03:21 PM)WashedUPVet Wrote:  Should be an interesting weekend for me here in Russia. I'm flying to Novosibirsk on Friday for 4 days. I have pipelined a nice 20 YO to meet me at the airport and escort me into the city proper. My confidence on non flake is 75%. I have looked here for some data on the city, but it is only mentioned in passing comments. No data sheet that I can find. I also have a woman closer to my age who is to show me around on Sunday. I'm doing some research on nightclubs as I would like to hit a couple Friday/Saturday. On Monday I join a nice 23/22 YO set of a Norwegian Girl and her Brazilian friend who invited me to stay with them at Lake Bakail for 4 days. We met in my Russian class in Moscow and she overheard me telling a friend that I wanted to go to Siberia. She already had this planned and invited me, sending me her itinerary within 3 minutes of meeting her. It is amazing how things seem to go in streaks. I was dry with women for a while, now it seems like it's pouring with opportunities. I was opened and number closed at the gym today by a thirsty Russian girl who used to live in Florida (31), picked up the Siberian flag (27) Sunday night while getting a 3rd night lay from nightgame. She actually texted me after our date and went home to discuss her desires with roommates. They like me (probably because one of them is in love with a fellow forum member) so it was game on around 2330 when they encouraged her to go for the bang. I'm feeling a little bad for my main chick right now as her level of devotion is increasing while my side pursuits are elevating. Maybe I'm more open to meeting girls over 24 and thus the locks to the canal are lowering. 4 months left in Russia. Doesn't feel like I have much time.

There is some data on Novosibirsk from Slubu's Russia Thread. It's from 2013, so perhaps a bit outdated. Link here.
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Been in Novosibirsk for 4 days now and I'll post a few thoughts while they are fresh in my mind.

-This place is depressing. I don't think I want to be here longer than 4 days. In fact, I almost wish I would have stayed at a hotel because being here alone in an apartment is lonely. Against the advice of Slubu's data sheet, I survived here alone... At times on dark streets late at night, not prudent at all. This place is a long way from anything it seems.
-Girls seem slightly more attractive here than Moscow, but not as glamorous.
-I notice much less Kazak or people from the Stans.
-I'm getting good eye contact while walking. Considerably better than Moscow.
-Tinder action is good, but I had two nights with one girl and didn't have enough time to develop dates.
-Attended the Opera alone and saw the higher class women of the city and a set of foreign girls from UK and France that I opened during an intermission. They were happy to spend time with me as I think they wanted a break from Russian speaking. Admission was 900 RUB for center stage 2 rows back.
-Girls laugh and smile when they realize I can't speak Russian. I had a girl walk with me for 20 minutes home just because I was lost from the main stree and my phone was dead. Got her in the door and received LMR on going any further.

Night one. I arrived on Friday night and was able to meet up with my pipelined 20 YO 7. I might even rate higher because she was so young, sweet and inexperienced. I think she giggled the whole time we were together and it was fun. She picked me up from the airport (350 RUB) We banged 20 min upon arrival from the airport. I was really shocked as I was preparing just to change and take her to dinner. I went for the kiss in the kitchen and much to my surprise, she didn't slow down any of my advances. She got her American flag that night and I gave her a magnet with the California flag on it. I'm not sure if she has ever met an American. From her broken English, I think that I'm the first. I started giving small California Flag magnets to girls after the deed so they see me every time they go to the fridge. About 2 AM on night 1 I told her I was leaving and that she had to go home. It was a little awkward but I wanted to see what night game was like here. Bounced and went to Pravda. I arrived at almost 3 and was pretty disappointed. There was a 50/50 ratio but I had no luck with the girls opening in English. I'm also not super aggressive and I was coming off a bang so motivation was a bit low. I did talk to a guy who just returned from fighting in Donesk. That was interesting. Later that night I bounced to a bar underneath the Cafe called "People's." Don't remember the name but it was still going at 5AM and seemed to be full of pros. At this point I was worn out.

Night two, I bought flowers for the young girl who came over earlier and told her I was sorry for asking her to leave. She quickly forgave me and we spent another night together.

Day three I went to the Opera. Netflix and chill. Alone. Today I'm off to Irkutsk and meeting the Norweigen and Brazillaian girls from my Russian class at the airport. We are headed to Lake Baikal for a few days. My apartment was brand new and very clean. Cost was 2000 RUB per night or about $26 at the current exchange rate. Location was just east of the theater.
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(02-22-2016 03:37 AM)WashedUPVet Wrote:  Been in Novosibirsk for 4 days now and I'll post a few thoughts while they are fresh in my mind.

-This place is depressing. I don't think I want to be here longer than 4 days. In fact, I almost wish I would have stayed at a hotel because being here alone in an apartment is lonely. Against the advice of Slubu's data sheet, I survived here alone... At times on dark streets late at night, not prudent at all. This place is a long way from anything it seems.
-Girls seem slightly more attractive here than Moscow, but not as glamorous.
-I notice much less Kazak or people from the Stans.
-I'm getting good eye contact while walking. Considerably better than Moscow.
-Tinder action is good, but I had two nights with one girl and didn't have enough time to develop dates.
-Attended the Opera alone and saw the higher class women of the city and a set of foreign girls from UK and France that I opened during an intermission. They were happy to spend time with me as I think they wanted a break from Russian speaking. Admission was 900 RUB for center stage 2 rows back.
-Girls laugh and smile when they realize I can't speak Russian. I had a girl walk with me for 20 minutes home just because I was lost from the main stree and my phone was dead. Got her in the door and received LMR on going any further.

Night one. I arrived on Friday night and was able to meet up with my pipelined 20 YO 7. I might even rate higher because she was so young, sweet and inexperienced. I think she giggled the whole time we were together and it was fun. She picked me up from the airport (350 RUB) We banged 20 min upon arrival from the airport. I was really shocked as I was preparing just to change and take her to dinner. I went for the kiss in the kitchen and much to my surprise, she didn't slow down any of my advances. She got her American flag that night and I gave her a magnet with the California flag on it. I'm not sure if she has ever met an American. From her broken English, I think that I'm the first. I started giving small California Flag magnets to girls after the deed so they see me every time they go to the fridge. About 2 AM on night 1 I told her I was leaving and that she had to go home. It was a little awkward but I wanted to see what night game was like here. Bounced and went to Pravda. I arrived at almost 3 and was pretty disappointed. There was a 50/50 ratio but I had no luck with the girls opening in English. I'm also not super aggressive and I was coming off a bang so motivation was a bit low. I did talk to a guy who just returned from fighting in Donesk. That was interesting. Later that night I bounced to a bar underneath the Cafe called "People's." Don't remember the name but it was still going at 5AM and seemed to be full of pros. At this point I was worn out.

Night two, I bought flowers for the young girl who came over earlier and told her I was sorry for asking her to leave. She quickly forgave me and we spent another night together.

Day three I went to the Opera. Netflix and chill. Alone. Today I'm off to Irkutsk and meeting the Norweigen and Brazillaian girls from my Russian class at the airport. We are headed to Lake Baikal for a few days. My apartment was brand new and very clean. Cost was 2000 RUB per night or about $26 at the current exchange rate. Location was just east of the theater.

Me reading your thread. +1

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Hey yall

I have 6 weeks vacation and I'm looking to spend 4 of it in Russia. My Russian language skill is basic - I know the essentials for a tourist.

I was hoping to get some opinions on where to go - Eastern Ukraine? Big cities? A nice small province?

My goals are simple:
- smash beautiful women by gaming
- if I meet someone worthy of baby making, perhaps try to do the foreign bride thing

chances are I'll just be smashing and enjoying the culture, but its a very important decision to make and without anyone's input I'll just book a ticket to St Petersburg and spend my time there.

Anyway have any better recommendations? Is the Transiberian railway good for game?
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(02-22-2016 04:08 PM)Shanghello Wrote:  Hey yall

I have 6 weeks vacation and I'm looking to spend 4 of it in Russia. My Russian language skill is basic - I know the essentials for a tourist.

I was hoping to get some opinions on where to go - Eastern Ukraine? Big cities? A nice small province?

My goals are simple:
- smash beautiful women by gaming
- if I meet someone worthy of baby making, perhaps try to do the foreign bride thing

chances are I'll just be smashing and enjoying the culture, but its a very important decision to make and without anyone's input I'll just book a ticket to St Petersburg and spend my time there.

Anyway have any better recommendations? Is the Transiberian railway good for game?

Kiev is good at the moment and will be easier if you don't have any prior experience in Russia. No need to worry about visas, registration, etc. Ukrainian girls are very open to the idea of princes on white horses at the moment, because of the economy and pro-Western revolution.
The city is very photogenic, so you'll have photos to show people back home too.
Anywhere you go, you'll need a back story to explain why you decided to visit, especially in the smaller cities. They can't understand why anyone would want to visit their country.
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(02-22-2016 04:23 PM)DaveR Wrote:  Kiev is good at the moment and will be easier if you don't have any prior experience in Russia. No need to worry about visas, registration, etc. Ukrainian girls are very open to the idea of princes on white horses at the moment, because of the economy and pro-Western revolution.
The city is very photogenic, so you'll have photos to show people back home too.
Anywhere you go, you'll need a back story to explain why you decided to visit, especially in the smaller cities. They can't understand why anyone would want to visit their country.

Kiev sounds nice. I have been learning Russian for about a year, and I hear Kiev is 50-50 Ukranian - Russian speakers.

Ha ha you know sometimes I wonder why people visit Canada. Truthfully I dislike Canada's fruity liberal ways and wanted to visit a more traditional country. Unless that dries up the poosey I'll just go with that.

I know Roosh spent some time in Odessa, would you recommend going there?
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(02-22-2016 04:51 PM)Shanghello Wrote:  Kiev sounds nice. I have been learning Russian for about a year, and I hear Kiev is 50-50 Ukranian - Russian speakers.
Just about everyone in Kiev can speak Russian at near-native level, and the level of knowledge of Russian is higher in general. That statistic is about the language they use at home or which language they prefer. You'll find that the the Ukrainian speakers also speak Russian, but there are plenty of Russian speakers who don't speak Ukrainian. Most business and even government meetings are all conducted in Russian, not Ukrainian.

Basically it isn't a problem except at very advanced levels - more than five years of study. At that point, you may be targeting a specific accent and regional vocabulary.


(02-22-2016 04:51 PM)Shanghello Wrote:  I know Roosh spent some time in Odessa, would you recommend going there?
I don't think it will be as good these days. It used to attract a lot of Russian tourists, but they don't take holidays in Ukraine any more. The local girls are the hipster eccentrics of the Russian speaking world - kind of like what San Francisco is to the US.
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Does anyone have any recommendations or experiences with Russian language schools in Moscow? Looking to make my way back after visiting last summer.

I'm planning to do a 4+ week course in the summer, and at the moment I'm looking at two options:

Moscow State University or RusLanguage (Arbatskaya) - Thinking the former makes more sense, due to location directly on campus.

Either way, I'm looking to rent a place for a month off of AirBnB, close to where I choose.

Anyone have any input?
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(02-22-2016 05:40 PM)reverze41 Wrote:  Does anyone have any recommendations or experiences with Russian language schools in Moscow? Looking to make my way back after visiting last summer.

I'm planning to do a 4+ week course in the summer, and at the moment I'm looking at two options:

Moscow State University or RusLanguage (Arbatskaya) - Thinking the former makes more sense, due to location directly on campus.

Either way, I'm looking to rent a place for a month off of AirBnB, close to where I choose.

Anyone have any input?


RGGU is also quite good: http://www.rsuh.ru/ruslang/en/

Don't bother with private schools. Quality is always very low and you'll be paying ridiculous prices. If you wish to study privately, it would be better to find yourself a teacher and take individual lessons: http://repetitors.info/repetitor/rki/?L=8

The official site of MGU's department of Russian as a foreign language is: http://www.irlc.msu.ru
A few other 'schools' use the MGU name, but they have nothing to do with the university - they're just located nearby.

Keep in mind that Muscovites speak very quickly. For a beginner, it might be easier in the South, eg. Rostov-na-donu or Krasnodar.
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reverze41 -- the answer is, game girls, and get them to teach you russian for free. Bring your own textbooks, and go through them with girls. 1 on 1, all-Russian lessons are the best.
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(02-22-2016 05:58 PM)DaveR Wrote:  RGGU is also quite good: http://www.rsuh.ru/ruslang/en/

Don't bother with private schools. Quality is always very low and you'll be paying ridiculous prices. If you wish to study privately, it would be better to find yourself a teacher and take individual lessons: http://repetitors.info/repetitor/rki/?L=8

The official site of MGU's department of Russian as a foreign language is: http://www.irlc.msu.ru
A few other 'schools' use the MGU name, but they have nothing to do with the university - they're just located nearby.

Keep in mind that Muscovites speak very quickly. For a beginner, it might be easier in the South, eg. Rostov-na-donu or Krasnodar.

I'm officially booked for a 30 day trip to Moscow, planning on going to Novosibirsk after a quick trip in Moscow. I've been pipelining and it looks like I'll get some nice tail there. Girls that would be an easy 8 in Ottawa tell me they're a 4 in Siberia and didn't even think it would be possible for guys to be attracted to them until they travelled abroad for the first time. Anyway... striking up good rapport. I leave in April.

I gotta brush up on my Russian before I make the actual journey though. Any advices? Question: When you're going on the transiberian railway, how do you buy your tickets? Like you buy the whole thing or can you buy in little chunks to make stops along the way?
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(02-25-2016 08:23 PM)Shanghello Wrote:  Question: When you're going on the transiberian railway, how do you buy your tickets? Like you buy the whole thing or can you buy in little chunks to make stops along the way?

You can buy it in parts. Use a local site like the following so you don't have to pay 10x normal rates: http://www.tutu.ru
Some sections have e-tickets, others you'll have to collect from the railway station in advance.
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^ I booked my tickets several times at http://www.rzd.ru
Aren't those tickets at normal rates?
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(02-26-2016 04:25 AM)Chaos Wrote:  ^ I booked my tickets several times at http://www.rzd.ru
Aren't those tickets at normal rates?
RZD is fine and the rates will be as low as you'll find anywhere. It's the official site of the state rail company. I only prefer Tutu.ru because it's easier and offers more payment options.

There are some sites targeted at foreigners which sell 1000-Roubles tickets for 100 Euros, for example.
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(02-26-2016 07:14 AM)DaveR Wrote:  
(02-26-2016 04:25 AM)Chaos Wrote:  ^ I booked my tickets several times at http://www.rzd.ru
Aren't those tickets at normal rates?
RZD is fine and the rates will be as low as you'll find anywhere. It's the official site of the state rail company. I only prefer Tutu.ru because it's easier and offers more payment options.

There are some sites targeted at foreigners which sell 1000-Roubles tickets for 100 Euros, for example.

Tutu is more user friendly on first appearance because of the ease of which I can use drop down menus to pick places to go. Am I reading it wrong or is Novosibirsk not one of the destinations?
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(02-22-2016 03:37 AM)WashedUPVet Wrote:  Got her in the door and received LMR on going any further.

That is a rather new definition of LMR

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so I'm tindering in Siberia and Moscow to get a feel for the girls and to pipeline. Some of these girls... hell most of them, speak great if not perfect english. One of them I"ve been getting along with really well, identifies as a liberal and after a few days of talking she just told me she doesn't want a Russian bf becuase she wants to move to the WEst. Canada, US, Europe, whatever. So Thats kinda where she's at. I could definitely get some ass from the chick, its almost guaranteed, but has anyone had any problems with these kinda girls? The ones that just want to go to the West?

Any warning signs or red flags I should be aware of? Looks like Siberia will be my poosey paradise but I don't know if any trouble awaits me
02-28-2016 10:17 PM
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